I am super angry and Megyn Kelly for not doing a proper job of looking at the mountain of weak circumstantial evidence that James Alefantis is running a pedo-sex operations. I am not a shill. I totally believe that this shit-ton of circumstantial evidence is true. There is no one piece of evidence that you can point to. It takes time to sort through it all. Time that Megyn Kelly did not spend.
On the other hand, Megyn Kelly is NOT A WHORE. Stop fucking saying shit like that. It is UNHELPFUL.
I listened to her book, #SettleForMore, read in her own voice. She is not a shill. But she lived most of her live as a lawyer. She is non-partisan, but is trained to take a side and then fight to the death for that side like a pit bull. The problem is that she spend a year with (supposed) Trump supporters threatening her family, and making her life hell.
Maybe it was Correct the Record people doing it, or some other Scott Foval type operation. But it really upset her. She has young children, and she has had to deal with scary stalkers.
I am quite embarrassed that she ran with this story without due diligence. She is wrong, Comet Ping Pong is a sick place. Evidenced by the mountain of pictures and comments from James Alefantis' instagram, and others. Megyn Kelly is guilty of jumping to conclusions. She bought the story of the 'gunman'. Pathetic.
But. Do not call her a whore, and do not lump her in with the media members who are actually in on this pedo ring. As smart as she is, in this case she is being played. As a journalist, she should have seeked out the most reputable source that thought that Comet Pizza is mixed up in a pedo ring. Instead, she cherry-picked a couple photos, and didn't even hold Alefantis accountable for his comments!
But again, this does not mean it is ok to call her a whore. I really do not believe for one second that she is involved in the actual ring.
Is it just me or does it seem that MSM is acting really stupidly about the so called 'fake news' problem. If I wanted to combat pizzagate, I'd just leave it alone and hope it would go away like other so called conspiracy theories. They are making it seem all the more obvious by giving forum to a supposedly poor pizzaria guy.
Is there some reason she was wearing purple, just like Killary's been doing? Is she signaling she's also part of Soros's color revolution? That dress couldn't be any sexier and Me-again's makeup was put on with a shovel instead of a trowel this time.
I look at it this way. If he's smart enough to know who Moloch is, and claim to worship Moloch and go to spirit cooking's with the Podesta's or what not, he's smart enough to know that what he was posting was Pedo in nature if not outright suggestive. Moloch (Molech) is not something that is common knowledge.
Wow! She could have skewered him. Of course the soft ball questions were pre arranged,. The 1 photo discussed was the very one I knew it would be! How the hell could he explain the pic of an infants face that he captioned Hoe-Tard? The words of " Majestic Ape? " the degrading satanic art, in a family restaurant? Portraying a wealthy powerful sicko as a victim? I will never watch her again.
A couple of things,did anyone expect anything different and in a way this is good for us.He can try and explain till he's blue in the face about the Instagram but I'm sure most normal still think it's creepy as fuck also just the fact that it's on MSN makes it relevant to talk about around the water cooler,friends,family etc.Talk about it to anyone who will listen.Discuss it,be calm,just mention that you've seen his other Instagrams and how disturbing they are ,suggest the go on YouTube and watch something on it.Dont push it too much you will lose them,people don't want to believe this ,hell we don't want to believe this .Keep up the great work y'all.
Did you all really expect Megyn Kelly to jump on board?
For Fucks SAKE!
Face it guys their tactics are working we are talking about Alefantis & not Investigating CF!!!
It was in response to an earlier part of the thread. There are people showing up new everyday who need to know that this investigation includes people of all types...people who care. It is not somehow limited to the lunatic fringe or uneducated trolls who "get their news from the fake media." It was written for people who look at what we are doing with disdain (or at least come in with pre-conceived notions). I was not trying to brag but create convey the idea for the type of people I know (I have talked to some) who are educated and easily dismiss this out of an intellectual arrogance. I am NOT above anyone in this and did not write that as a point of arrogance. I sincerely meant well and intended to put that in for the reasons stated above.
The artwork you describe was by Kim Noble (or one of her alternate personalities) and there's no evidence that it -- or anything else by her -- was ever in CPP. What happened is people saw a piece of art on the front of a flyer for a CPP event with a band, and the poster art bore a resemblance to a painting by Noble. They were then juxtaposed by someone for comparison. People saw this and jumped to a false conclusion that the Noble image they were looking at was inside CPP.
Your posting comes across as wide-eyed and ranting. That's not helpful right now. That's how they want to depict us.
Please take your own advice and research more carefully. There is a lot of rumor-hysteria and also a lot of disinfo-spreading taking place. Accuracy is the road to success.
Notwithstanding, I don't want to in any way dampen your zeal, just help you focus it to improve effectiveness. Thanks for caring and for taking the time to compose your thoughts about this absurd cover-up job of an interview.
Faux News is no different from any of the other msm outlets when it comes to touchy subjects that truly expose the corruption present on capitol hill and the white house.
They lean a little further right only to catch a larger percentage of the population and appease the dumb-masses in to believing that the news we hear on tv is the gospel truth.
Kudos to all here that are doing the work our fbi should be doing. But as we are well aware, our govmnt does not self investigate. The days of elected officials being held accountable are nearly gone. Only a limited few political law breakers get "picked" or "sacrificed" on a small scale to appease the masses.
Pizzagate is a phenomenon unlike any I've ever witnessed. The Streisand effect is in high gear like never before and we see it for what it is.
We're fully cognizant of what's happening here. I promise to continue my research and spreading the word as many of you here have.
The big picture here is as simple and basic as black and white. It's good vs. evil on an incredible scale. Good luck to everyone on the good side out there! Hopefully the "dumb-masses" will catch on soon.
Think about this...how many of you would NOT have sued Alex Jones for what Meghan Kelly played on her show last night? I'm not sure when he said that because I haven't really watched him very much. She has the means to sue him if she wants to and if it's NOT true, why wouldn't she sue? If someone called me straight out a child rapist and killer like he called her I would slap a lawsuit on them so fast even if I had to type the paperwork myself!
Meghan doesn't know it , but she motivated us even more! As a matter of fact, I think I'm going to print up T shirts and give them to everybody I know for Christmas!
Why did you paint over all of the Pedo Artwork on your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant? Why???? We have copied and archived the images of the sick artwork that was all over your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant. So again, Why did you paint over all of the Pedo Artwork on your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant?
Thanks for another big streisand effect wave, Kelly! Now even more people have and can become curious and find out for themselves what lying, soulless pieces of shit you and the rest of the MSM are, and just how much you've all deliberately hidden and mocked while thousands of children are being trafficked, raped and murdered throughout western governments every year. Good job?
Sometimes it is still hard to keep in mind that Jimmy Comet pizza guy might very well have the DIRT on everyone in Washington DC or their boss. 49th most powerful and no wonder the press let's him sit and smirk without answering any real questions.
I'm not sure he coined it, but I dunno who did. Could be him. Too lazy to go digging ATM.
Presstitutes is a much better term than "mainstream" media. Labeling our enemy's controlled media "mainstream" implies we're fringe. Bad message to send.
You know what's the most pathetic thing about this? The granddaughter narrative. You want to ease peoples suspicions? Then why don't you put the fucking child on TV and show her that she is indeed your granddaughter? Don't you know how TV works? You bring on a child, show the photo and then PROVE that it's your granddaughter and yet, they keep saying this granddaughter narrative with 0 proof.
What a pathetic clownshow. Kelly and Alefantis are both CIA assets, in my opinion. The CIA seems to be dictating the narrative that all the cable channels spew.
Rupert Murdoch is probably part of the ring. Oh, then I just found this:
"The News of the World spiked an exclusive story exposing the science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke as a paedophile, according to a new book about life inside the newspaper whose closure was announced a year ago today.
In Hack, an account of his nerve-shredding days as a reporter on the News of the World and then the Sunday Mirror, Graham Johnson claims that although the NOTW prided itself on outing pederasts, editors made an exception for Mr Clarke because he was a friend of Rupert Murdoch."
If Pizzagate is just some crazy conspiracy theory, why doesn't that fucking bitch try to de-bunk our claims?
The MSM never addresses any of the facts brought up, they just talk about the "poor unfortunate victims" like Alefantis and they never address the instagram photos, the codewords in the emails, the creepy art, any of it.
She brought up the picture of the girl taped to the table, and he said that it was an innocent picture of his niece. I know if I put a picture of my cousin's daughter taped to a table on my instagram then everyone in my family would think it was super creepy. Who does that?!
Guys don't harass her, that will just prove Jimmys point that its just people with their cpus harassing people and not pissed off people who are disgusted with pedophiles...
It was. For sure. But you see that fuckers lip quiver at 3:53 after she mentions "pedophile" and "rabbit hole" you sure as fuck know she has been reading VOAT and the Tweets by RedGreen. Pedofantis is shaking as he knows he has to do this coverage but is nervous as fuck the truth might slip. .... My rage right now. I feel like breathing fire. FUCK THEM!
A body was not discovered buried under anyone's residence, so that is how all of this is going to be written off by the concerned parties. You don't always get Hulk Hogan leg dropping the evil doer. The important thing will be to keep the facts handy and start connecting the dots with other information that comes out in the future. And there will be more information. If this "faithless elector" shit show commences in the next eighty hours, we will be up to our proverbial eyeballs in more leaks from Assange and Russia.
You can attempt to subvert the will of the people. You can be a bizarre pervert. But you cannot be a bizarre pervert who attempts to subvert the will of the people without getting a direct blast from the shit hose. Those days are over. Everyone who eluded justice this time will continue being creatures of habit and step into a another bear trap further on down the line. It happend to Gawker. It happened to the DNC. It will happen to these creeps.
the fact that the MSM is covering it at all should be good news - that's a confirmation that there really is something to the story, else they wouldn't feel the need to do damage control
Awesome... legacy media just keeps reaching for an ever increasing shovel size. Soon they will dig so deep that the hole will collapse in on them. I really don't understand how anyone still believes fake news. For fucks sakes people still think that children really died at Sandy Hook. These "people" are actors. They would sell out their own children for a shiny turd.
Everyone needs to act on what they know about MSM and turn it off -- in fact, it would only help if we all pulled out of cable TV.
That would send a message.
Hi investigators. This is my first post. I'm not jumping to conclusions. But the evidence you've collected about so many different people and organizations sure suggests a great deal. But that's not why I registered and felt like I needed to say something.
I wanted to explain something to all of you, assuming many of you may be under 40. If you are, you probably don't remember the McMartin case. Without too going into it too much, the link I'm leaving is the best place to start, it shaped the way people think about, and even conduct, ritual abuse investigations in the US more than any other case. After the entire mainstream media began to say it was a witch hunt and the allegations were just kids saying things because they were tricked by experts, it shaped public opinion until today.
The main fact used to debunk all the kids and physical evidence was that tunnels, mentioned by all the victims, did not exist. Except they did, absolutely, exist:
So when you run up against older Americans who simply refuse to believe anything like this, the media coverage of the McMartin case and the incredible amount of literature and other media generated in its aftermath is the major reason.
Lastly, notice that this proof beyond any reasonable doubt tunnels did exist, discovered and reported many years ago, has not been reflected in recent literature. So you can add that to the pile of evidence suggesting very powerful people are not interested in the facts, like Megyn Kelly.
See, not even off topic.
Just search McMartin case and you can see it's still used as an example of ritual abuse being something only religious fanatics think exists.
I remember being convinced that it was all hysteria as well, reading good investigative articles and then the "false memory syndrome" business getting started up and running.
You're welcome. I found it linked at Last American Vagabond. I don't think younger people can possibly grasp how much this changed everything in the US because you did not live through the media storm.
riveting description. I remember the case and thought I followed it. I was in my 20's at the time. I don't think I remember the satanic abuse details. And OMG - when digging to find the tunnels they found a plate with a couple of pentagrams on it that were drawn by hand...by an adult. And the cauldrons...wtf. I wish I could UN-see that in my minds eye. Thank you for this post!
Yeah, I'm sub 40 myself and not even American so I didn't know that story, however I perfectly understand what you mean. I witnessed a similar case happening in my country. The official story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outreau_trial.
At the time, despite being already very aware of the existence of large pedo rings protected by the medias/politicians/etc., I didn't pay much attention to it, I was assuming that if the media were all screaming "fake!" on this particular story, then it was surely fake.
I realized only years later that the whole thing was actually a massive psy-op which completely shaped the perception of the public, the media, the police and the justice towards pedophile rings. Mission accomplished.
Needless to say, the craziest thing is that it was obviously a real pedophile ring, with real victims, murders, "mysterious powerful people wearing masks", etc., but now when a similar case breaks out, the pavlovian reaction from the media and, sadly, the public is to yell "remember Outreau!" and "the children must be lying!".
McMartin was, in terms of media coverage, close to the OJ trial. As for importance with regards to changing public perception, it was infinitely bigger than the OJ case. At the beginning people believed the children and wanted convictions. After it was over, people wanted to charge the very young victims, their parents, expert witnesses, everyone in favor of prosecution basically, with crimes for bringing it up. After McMartin, people were scared to even suggest ritual abuse allegations could be true.
And then, six years later in 1990, the dig proved the key element of the case missing previously. And somehow, nobody noticed or cared.
I did not know this dig had been conducted and found the tunnels until Pizzagate. I have read quite a few people online in the last couple weeks using McMartin to say Pizzagate is ridiculous.
"Since the McMartin trial, new protocols have been developed."
"Developed", thanks to a media lynch mob condemning children based on false analysis of the case. The question is, false on purpose? I could link hundreds or thousands of articles just like this, and books.
In Australia we call them rockspiders because they get into small cracks... I hope justice is served this time keep digging anons were close! these motherfuckers are scared!
Shamefully took one picture, and made it seems so innocent as her bleeding heart was unbearable to witness! Her career is finished. She should have done her homework.
It must be nice to be an average pizza store owner and get an interview on FOX when someone is picking on you! I'm sure all the Christian business owners sued by the LGBT mafia would've liked the same courtesy.
What's funny is Alex Jones just covered a quote about Hillary Clinton where the media has been taking something out of context regarding him blaming her for "chopping up babies" (where the quote IN CONTEXT is actually about her support of Saudi Arabia which kills women and children), and Megyn Kelly quoted the exact same excerpt. That shows that Kelly gets her talking points from the same central Press Klux Klanquarters.
Pointing a finger and saying, "Fake!" is not journalism. Nowhere does she say how the claims are discredited. This was either lazy as hell or deliberately orchestrated, and it feels like the latter.
I just am not upvoating anyone that asks for it. I just feel like things in life should be earned that is why I hate SJW, they feel they deserve shit just because they breath. fuck that.
The 'shooter' must have been about 15 feet tall for the computer on the floor to be hit by a ((magic?) bullet (theory)) that hit the lock about 4 feet up and was fired from a handgun/rifle/shotgun which was pointed at an employee... er, the ground... er, the ceiling. This is classic. It should be completely evident to those in the know that the only reason why the MSM is covering this is because they are forced. The only thing to do is keep digging and keep pressing.
My main message to you all would be that it is fine to believe and say this but leave it at 'something is shady' until you have the proportional amount of evidence to make the very heavy and serous claim of pedophilia. Can we all agree that we do not condone the death threats that alefantis, and I'm sure others, are getting daily? And I understand that you are not responsible for the death threats and for that guy going into the pizzeria with a gun, but that guy was online reading what everyone was writing and basing his actions off of that.
Look through this thread and ask yourself if it sounds like people are simply suspicious of alefantis and haven't made up their mind or do people seem sure of themselves? And what is this based on? Do you really believe you've made the appropriate accusation based on the appropriate evidence?
One thing I have been asking pizzagate people is this (and it's important so think about it!): Is pizzagate falsifiable? What evidence could be shown that could exonerate those being insinuated as pedophiles?
Of course it is falsifiable. All they needed to do was to explain all the evidence, and how come it was ALL just a coincidence, and how it had been wrongly interpreted. So far, Alefantis explained a couple of the instagram pictures and that's it. But when you look at ALL the connections and events and organisations and places and people that ALL happen to relate to child trafficking or paedophilia in some way, it becomes a statistical improbability that is pretty much indistinguishable from impossibility that these connections all relate to paedophilia only by chance and coincidence, and not because they are actually all connected through paedophilic activity.
Don't you recognise that if these people had come out and addressed the concerns, and given a reasonable, coherent and innocent explanation for everything, then this investigation wouldn't have gone further, that it would have died down? There can only be one reason why no such explanation has been offered, and that's because there isn't one.
You're being incredibly blind and suffering from massive cognitive dissonance. Which is understandable, because it's so horrific. I wonder if you have really looked at all the evidence that's been found, or if you've just scraped the surface with Comet ping pong and the instagram pictures. Those things are really not much compared to what else has been discovered. I suggest you go check it out, because you'll feel really awful and guilty in the end, about trying to defend these people when you hadn't really looked into it properly.
I'd like to respond to you a little more in depth but in the mean time look at this it is a video of alefantis talking to two protestors outside comet. He's explaining the picture of the girl with her hands taped to the table, then look down at the comments. Now consider this: nothing will ever be enough. There will never be an explanation good enough. The answers given will always be turned against the accused, and once you have submitted yourself to the mob you are at their mercy.
Yeah some of the pictures could have innocent explanations and he could explain them away perhaps. He explains one picture there, but can you not see how it becomes harder and harder to give a plausible explanation for more and more pictures and comments? How many people have so many dubious photos and comments on their instagram, AS WELL as having weird emails between them and some of the most powerful people in the country, AS WELL as having two restaurants on a street of places that have paedophile symbols in their logos, AS WELL as one of your restaurants having a paedophile related name, and on and on it goes with more and more things that an innocent explanation has to be found for, and really to be plausible you need a single explanation or two that explains ALL of these things. And the only explanation there is at the moment is the paedophile ring/child trafficking operation explanation. They haven't offered another one. Giving an innocent explanation for one photograph out of ALL the other things is nowhere near enough. And Alefantis and his instagram isn't even the most important stuff, that's just the stuff people happened upon at the beginning, if I understand the timeline correctly.
You are the one who is ignoring all of the other things that have been found, you're ignoring how insanely unlikely it is for all of these links to paedophilia and child trafficking to just be coincidence and actually nothing to do with child trafficking or paedophilia. Look through all the evidence, forget about the pictures if you really believe they are innocent. Enter the investigation from a different place. I think you are either incredibly naive, haven't actually read through what people have discovered beyond the instagram stuff, or you're actually part of the effort to shut this down to protect those involved. Either way, you are not making good arguments, at all.
Let me focus on Alefantis. The claim is that Alefantis is a pedophile who is apart of child sex trafficking ring. In order for this to be true the very basic facts would have to be that Alefantis has a sexual attraction to minors and has acted on that attraction. Also my main point would be what is the minimum amount of certainty you would need to accuse that person publicly of pedophilia and child abuse?
I think that it should be obvious enough that you can not prove that someone is not a pedophile, since that's something that exists only in someone's mind. You could technically make a case for anyone being a pedophile. Someone could investigate you and note all the things that may signify that you might be a pedophile. They could see that you seem to love Disney movies and frequently go to Disneyland, a place mainly for children. Maybe they would notice that you are particular close to one of your younger cousins. Maybe you have liked a few photos on facebook with young family members in swimsuits. The case could be made for anyone, but for nearly every single person it would not be true and wouldn't be convincing either. But there is nothing that you could show that would prove definitively, with no doubt, that you do not have a sexual attraction to minors. So when is it appropriate to say that someone is a pedophile and a child abuser?
and on and on it goes with more and more things that an innocent explanation has to be found for, and really to be plausible you need a single explanation or two that explains ALL of these things
I agree generally with the method you say you're using, which is that enough coincidences can make something that is not the simplest explanation for one occurrence very likely given many coincidences. Like if someone were to walk out with something in their pocket when they left the store and when they were caught they said it was a mistake, that would be very believable. But if they continuously did it multiple times a month it would become very difficult to believe that each time there was a simple explanation that was not theft. You could not come up with an explanation for each indivudual occurrence and have it be believable. The most likely explanation would be theft, the individual explanations for each time would be very unlikely, and in the middle probability-wise would be something that ties all the events together like maybe dementia which would be unlikely but not unthinkable.
But I would say that these things you mentioned are not coincidences relating to pedophilia. [Although you and almost every pizzagater I've ever talked to has said that the instagram stuff is not the main evidence, the only evidence I've ever heard them bring up is that (also you list it first in the coincidences against him) so I'm going to talk about that.] Here is the evidence related to the question:
Does Alefantis have a sexual attraction to minors?:
Instagram profile picture is of antinous
"#Hotard"
"#Chickenlovers"
Photo of a child taped to a table
Restuarant he owns has pedophile slang in its name
Photo of baby chewing on money
Some pictures of children generally on his instagram
Mural of decapitated children? ← I’ve never seen proof ,and I’m skeptical, that this painting was ever actually in Comet but I’ll give you that one
The rest of the evidence isn’t directly related to Alefantis but I think still counts for something, possibly testament to his character:
Some of the people who have commented on his intagram photos have posted sexual references to pizza and generally sexually subversive pictures
A singer at comet ping pong made a joke involving pedophilia
Three doors down from Comet is a pizzeria with a known pedophillia symbol in its logo shape ( I won’t include the other logo because that is ridiculous)
I was generous with the first list since the last three are only tangentially related to sexual attraction to minors. And the other evidence I’ve seen mentioned is not related to the question “is alefantis a pedophile? “. Also I forgot the second part of the question “Has he acted on that attraction?”. Here’s the evidence for that:
NOTHING. NO accusations from victims, NO witness accusations, NO accusations from a second hand witness, NO accusations or evidence whatsoever. Absolutely nothing.
And that’s actually important to note because although it’s repulsive to any normal person it is not a crime to be sexually attracted to minors. When that woman overheard Jared Fogle talking about how he was sexually attracted to children he wasn’t immediately arrested, there was a very long investigation.
Now looking at the evidence for “is alefantis a pedophile” you’ll see that these are not instances of the same thing like the shoplifting example. Only if these things are all connected could they all be explained by one thing: pedophilia. But if he is a normal person then these things are not connected like my example of investigating you and making a case, those things aren’t connected unless you are a pedophile.
IF he had multiple pictures of children taped to a table he could not say every time it was his goddaughter and sister playing, that would be odd there would need to be more explanation. IF he consistently posted children in sexually provocative photos and made sexually provocative comments about children, that would need an explanation. But does he? I don’t know how old his instragram profile is but from the posts I’ve seen it is at least 4 years old and has nearly 800 posts ! There are maybe 5 or 6 pictures that have been cited as questionable. If in one of those posts he explicitly stated he was a pedophile that would be enough. Or had a picture that was definitively cp that would be enough. But that’s not what is there you just have to be honest with yourself and look at them individually and ask what is the likelihood that this was meant in a sexual way? And then look at them altogether as posts across many years and ask does it add up to proof.
Let me offer what I think the most mundane/likely explanations are for the evidence:
Antinous: Alefantis is gay, antinous is known as a “gay icon” according to the wiki page cited
Hotard: The guy says hotard when he is already talking about alefantis and not the baby so he is probably talking about alefantis, then alefantis says it probably back at him. If they are referring to the baby then they are probably just assholes who don’t know where to draw the line. There are actually many plausible possibilities for this one that I've talked about before.
Chickenlovers: The child might be eating chicken/likes chicken like most kids do. Also chicken lover is an extremely easy phrase to put together without talking about pedophillia just google it and you’ll see. Also instagram chicken lover and look at how many results there are with kids.
Photo of child taped: His explanation is what most people assumed which is that it was a playful/jokey situation. The girl is smiling and it is not shot in a sexual way.
Restaurant has pedophile slang: It is a themed restaurant and the slang term is also a very common name that would fit the theme.
Pictures of children generally: He is a middle aged man with friends who have children and he owns a restaurant which kids go to.
Baby chewing on money: ? I was never sure why this one was important. Its just a baby and money.
I never got to my last question which is “ what is the minimum amount of certainty you would need to accuse that person publicly of pedophilia and child abuse?” but you know how serious the accusation is and you have a certain responsibility when speaking publicly to not throw around the accusation because there are consequences as we’ve seen with the death threats and the gunman.
Prove it to me: Can you show that alefantis is attracted to minors? Then can you show that he has acted on it? Then can you show he is a part of a ring? Dont be fooled by the amount of evidence! That is a CLASSIC hallmark of conspiracy theories. You need to be able to answer for specific claims.
I found your comment! Sorry I missed it before. It's a very good comment so I'm glad you told me about it.
I do see your point, and there is no conclusive evidence/hard proof that Alefantis is attracted to minors or has engaged in any sexual activity with children. It annoys me that everyone talks about this evidence a well, I think it's because it was the first stuff that was really found and so it's been memed and infographiced and everyone knows it inside out by now.
I think your mistake though happens right at the beginning. You decide to focus on Alefantis and whether he is an active pedophile or not. But that's not the question. The question is: Is there a pedophile and/or child trafficking ring operating within and among the political elite in Washington DC/ the US?
So yes you can focus on Alefantis and go through everything and explain how it's innocent and how he's not a pedophile. But then there's everything else, all the people that are connected to him, to the Podestas, the emails between them, the continuing friendships with several known and convicted pedophiles, the connection with Haiti and the woman arrested for kidnapping 33 kids, who Hillary helped get released, the mine there that Hillary's brother owns, and that researcher Monica Peterson had said she thought was involved in human trafficking, shortly before she mysteriously died. There's the Clinton Foundation UK being registered to an address in London that convicted pedophile MP and accused pedophile Lord (did not go to trial due to him claiming dementia, but there were victims and witnesses) also have companies registered at. There's the fact that the Democrats have been in power in Hawaii for decades, and a building there owned by a trust that has Dem appointed trustees had drawn suspicion due to wifi signals coming from underground, plus off grid power lines apparently feeding an underground space, and where a business owned by a man is registered, that man being suspected of selling child porn through hard drives on eBay, who also happened to be linked with one of Hillary's staff and Comet pingpong. The discovery of the wifi signals and the suspicion of the man selling child porn happened months ago, and was not at all related to the Podesta emails, pizzagate, or any of that. It was later when looking into emails that the name of the man who owned the business in Hawaii popped up, and that building was discovered separately. Thens someone found the post on reddit from someone else who had posted way back about their concerns about how dodgy this place seemed. It's stuff like that which is not a case of people gathering up facts that suit their narrative. Completely independently, and apart in time, people came to similar conclusions through completely different routes.
Also, the pedophile symbols and the restaurant names. So Comet and Ping Pong are apparently sexually suggestive, but Buck's Fishing and Camping are apparently even more related to pedophilia, given that 'Buck' is a name for pedophiles, specifically older men who like young boys, and that camping is a known activity that pedophiles will do with kids as an excuse to prey on them. These facts were discovered in a documentary from the 90s about pedophiles.
The logos - Besta pizza had the triangle spiral logo, and the restaurant across the street had the heart within a heart logo (on their menu underneath a picture of Hillary Clinton with the restaurant owners). The ping pong logo thing was clearly not at all like the one on the FBI list, but those two others look like the pedo symbols for sure.
I can't prove to you that Alefantis is attracted to minors, in fact, even if he's not at all attracted to minors, it makes no difference, because that isn't the question. If you ask me whether there's a pedophile ring operation among the political elite in DC then I would tell you to read through most of the stuff here, to read about the prevalence of this kind of operation among the political elites in countries the world over, and I would say that I know it's not definitive cast iron hard forensic DNA on the murder weapon caught in the act evidence, but it definitely screams out for someone with the experience, knowledge and resources to go get that cast iron evidence, because the statistical probability of it being there to be found is sky high.
Ok, great back and forth. As I have said my main point has been that we should be careful about the accusations we make seeing as how this is done completely in the open. After having read you talk a bit I think/hope I am preaching to the choir.
I felt focusing in on one claim was important because with these things the scope becomes so large that you may become caught up in the amount of evidence and forget that you are making many, many smaller claims and how much evidence do those things actually have? If you do not know whether the larger overarching claim is true should you be making more specific claims about a person based on it? Especially considering the accusation being made. Again, maybe I'm talking to someone who already believes this.
If the presstitutes -- and Alefantis -- were trying to get the truth out, they would deal with the evidence directly, instead of using straw men.
An argument has not been defeated until it has been refuted in its strongest form. And that is plainly what Big Media is very, VERY energetically NOT doing. So you need to ask yourself why that would be. Megyn's tears are obviously fake, or she would address the strongest form of our "argument".
Every time they avoid the meat and focus on the parsley and the wilted lettuce AGAIN, it wakes more people up. It's annoying to watch the fakery, but the red-pilling is, on net, a gain.
It was a sad night to see the last bastion fall today with Fox pretty much falling in line with the rest. Even though I fully expected it, I am still sad for my country. One of the things we always could say is that there was always 2 sides to the story in the media.
Saying this though, I won't give up. We are the new and unrealized majority. This is the last gasp of a dying entity. Let them shill. They have nothing left. We have won and they can't even see it.
Of course he has their permission, he pays them good money for that. There's things he doesn't have to lie about, just hides the circumstances. I'm boycotting them all. Now I have no news to watch that I'll ever trust, FML Thank god for people here, because as far as news, I know who I can trust here for the most part.
Hey, a message to investigative journalists...c'mon now. NOW IS THE TIME. Speak up, I know some are reading. I tell you this, I'm noting everyone and every network hiding it. I'll dump cable. The reporters that are hiding this, it will be remembered. You can go do the news in Turkey, or Iran...you know, the countries you love more than America, she and her people have HAD IT with the veil of secrecy.
Journalists afraid, WHAT KINDA AMERICANS ARE YOU???? (Sorry for the small outburst, but this has grown beyond ridiculous)
I like how it showed him in the kitchen slinging hash, as if he takes his greasy apron off and then skips off to cocktail parties with the D.C. power elite. Just a simple pizza man. With no basement.
Just shows fox news is just one side of the same coin. They dont have the public's best interests at heart, they are just the only people not spinning the truth at the moment. Sacks of shit.
This is spot on. As a lefty, I always hated FOX. During this election season, FOX was the best of the MSM. They had some very good pieces about the email scandal and played it fairly neutral after the establishment republicans dropped out. They are playing the game of appeasing their fans while shilling for the establishment. I think they found a decent balance to keep it believable to the dummies.
You know, I've never been 100% sure about Alefantis' involvement in Pizzagate, so I watched with an open mind; but his behavior in this interview actually doesn't make him seem more innocent to me.
What really gets me with interviews like this is how nobody acknowledges any reasonable suspicion about the evidence.
Like, sure. Maaaaayyybe someone would thoughtlessly upload a picture of a kid taped to a floor in some weird, playful context ("you had to be there"), but surely in retrospect, you can tell that this looks pretty damn sinister. There's no way you can just write it off as innocent, and dismiss concerns as total foolishness.
I'm saying, if I were innocent, the first thing I'd say is, "I can totally see why this looks weird, and now I regret posting it. The reason this happened is X, X and Y".
Come to think of it, there's been a bizarre lack of transparency from Alefantis. If I were caught up in something like this, I would be answering the big questions, fast. I wouldn't be asking Fox News to bring their cameras to my restaurant; I'd use my own damn cameras and show the Internet I have nothing to hide.
If he actually dialogued with this community, we'd still have our suspicions; but if he was innocent, he could absolutely prove that to a lot of us.
Who actually thought they would grill this guy on actual facts? For real? I didn't. You all are kididng yourselves if you believed that. 50 odd most powerfull person in D.C. Knows the Pedo Podestas. Brock with Media Matters and CTR. Get the fuck out. Here is a tip.... STOP TRUSTING LEGACY MEDIA FOR FUCKS SAKE. If I yell... does it make it more clear. Fuck.
Alefantis needs some acting lessons, this was terrible as was Kelly. He certainly doesn't come across as very articulate or intelligent, just a run of the mill pedophile pimp for the C.I.A. And all those houses he has near to Langley? Not a smart man though, struggling to find his well rehearsed words. Hell, maybe they filmed this on Monday, and it was so bad they needed to rehearse and film again. Actually funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Yah, he definitely RODE up in dc by sucking; he looks and sounds like the highschool kids in shop class that were older for failed for years and never graduated.
start watching @ 1:05 into the video. Megyn makes a statement clarifying that he is a democrat and nothing is illegal about that, and that does not make you a pedo connected to a child sex traffic ring" LOOK AT HIS BODY. He contorts and swallows hard. GUILTY according to his tell. His body language convicts him.
They're all spiritcookers, including Kelly, I'm sure. I understand that in govt., sports, media, celebrities, music, actors...everything -- in order to move up the ranks in fame and fortune, there are prices that need to be paid first. Each time, you agree to sell a little more of your soul, or you stagnate ----- or they soft kill or hard kill you. Soft kill is where they ruin your life, gang stalk you, end your career, end your relationships, take all your money, keep you mired in bogus lawsuits, make sure you can never work again, etc. Hard kill speaks for itself.
Let corrupt journalists and tv personalities lie and cover up the affair. The more do the better. They are effectively committing career suicide. When the scandal breaks, they'll will all fall together.
did you see how disgusting the place looked? paint peeling off walls,everywhere, etc. almost like murals were recently taken off....and if he let the cameras in there, where's the shots of the horrible wall paintings by pedo-artists that I've seen in photos so often? I didn't see a single one....did anyone catch any art in cpp?
(a) some of those pieces were never in CPP, and
(b) those which were in CPP may have been painted over by now
On (a), it's important to note that the infamous vulgar alien/masturbating man graffiti was not in CPP. It was a photo Alefantis (or someone) took in another location. It's also important to note that a lot of other art has been linked to Alefantis, but also was never in CPP. People see stuff and make assumptions, and rumors start going around.
We need to develop better ways of self-policing our info intake/outflow, to improve the signal-to-noise ratio. The Mockingbird media is dishonest and cannot perform a truth-detector function for a free people, but somehow we do need to come up with something better than random postings by anonymous people. (I'm all for random anon postings, mind you... just not without some kind of NON-totalitarian filter.)
The only psych book written about these types is PEOPLE OF THE LIE. They always lie and work in groups. Every way is to prey on anything and destroy and take. The book gives necessary insight to counter back and investigate.
Yes, same author of Road Less Travelled. He tried to get the EVIL label.in the psych DSM manual, as a BY conscious choice mental deranged, dangerous and criminal disorder.
If you look up the history of psychology and who is on psych boards and the DSM manual board; so many of them raised u healthy families, such as one enabled his son to torture animals as a youth; that then murdered his wife. Of course, cover-up, lies and excuses and he got away with murder.
There are many surviving families that never got justice in violent crimes or cps. Would add a lot more population numbers to this cause, and inside perspectives that media never shows the public; nor the govt.
That is, alot have had their American dream.destroyed and are left broken, often intimidated, as completely failed by the govt.
So many voices unheard in America and elsewhere. Yet, ones able, have blogs, comments, court cases, complaints, foil requests to all types of govt entities,/ programs; all over the web or access Foil via mail or in person at govt programs/ entities and court/ city town halls.
It's all a rat maze, costly and time consuming as kicked around. Ethical quality is not the trait that is hired in general. Rare to find one, as systemic habit is major organizational psychology failure.
More info and resesrch by govt funded npos and universities; under the subjects of Organizational Psychology , Risk Assessment, welfare, public health law, Quality Control and more. A whole language of phrases and acronyms.
They're all spiritcookers, including Kelly, I'm sure. I understand that in govt., sports, media, celebrities, music, actors...everything -- in order to move up the ranks in fame and fortune, there are prices that need to be paid first. Each time, you agree to sell a little more of your soul, or you stagnate ----- or they soft kill or hard kill you. Soft kill is where they ruin your life, gang stalk you, end your career, end your relationships, take all your money, keep you mired in bogus lawsuits, make sure you can never work again, etc. Hard kill speaks for itself.
James Alefantis comes off like so many other insider elite. Fake, arrogant, and weird. Almost polished, but I've seen it too many times and recognize it for what it is. Same delivery as so many other phony pundits who come on to dis-inform.
Using them as a trustworthy authority was one more major "tell". We cannot blindly rely on police. Too many of them are compromised. Also, if MK really thought the DC police did such a good job of getting to the truth, where is their report explaining all of this? She had a golden opportunity to pass along good info, but chose not to. One must ask WHY.
We do not even know from the pics who Caris James is, who the parents are. It is one of the major questions to ask: Where is #CarisJames. We should post this everywhere:
Yes..where are parents and evidence the baby even alive,? I don't care what Aleftitus said, child safety is not about the adult being wined and dined, but the CHILD's well-being.
Legally, it is a cps case, since it's been reported many times. It does not matter if cps is violating law and not investigating each report. Legal fact, since reported, is a cps case. Media freaking knows the law, but expect public to NOT know or question the glaring fact that cps has not confirmed that any childrenposted are alive and safe.
It's OK to label a baby Hotard on public that for rest of life is bullied? ( If alive) A rated xxx demeaning name on infant is OK with these folks!!!!!
Even a child at school calling another child, Hotard would be in trouble? Are we supposed to be treated THIS stupid by the media, and called false as they are as false and legal fraud in all of this?
I can't remember where I read it, but someone looked up her linkedin and they have relocated a state in the Pacific Northwest. I know the state and city but I don't want to say it because I think they were innocent in all this.
I am not so sure if innocent. I followed their trail a bit, and I think it was Portland. If I recall, she seemed to connect to a shady restaurant/bar that had similar themes and connections, with more heavy pedo symbology. I dug a bit and saw the same kinds of things and then got back to the east coast. They also had some incriminating participation in the instagrams. I still don't know how we know #CarisJames referenced their child...and if so, if their child is still around and with them.
The important part of that interview was that he didn't come off remotely shook up by the incident, he could have been reading a script about hand soap.
If I ever thought there could be a chance it wasn't a false flag I don't now, if somebody ever really pulled a gun on that dude he'd not only shit his pants but be covered in sweat anytime he thought about it.
His guilt is tangible. Honestly this interview makes him look pretty bad to law enforcement, let alone parents who have learned how to tell when their being lied to because lol kids.
Congratulations everyone my biggest take away from watching this is they are worried and doing damage control! This is getting under their skin they are very uncomfortable and have a lot to hide.
So now we know (as if we didn't before), that she and FOX are in on the cover up. I think the FOX execs and faux journalists should not be overlooked to see what alliances caused what decisions to be made.
That's okay. They are forced to start taking on interviews. This is a sign that we matter. They tried to ignore us. They can't anymore. So now they are attacking us. All this will do is get #PizzaGate more publicity, and when people really learn about the facts, they'll trust the mainstream media even less. I expected this type of interview 100%, and it makes me wonder why the Fox News decision makers are trying to cover this up. I think #PizzaGate needs to do a better job of finding the Republicans that are likely involved in this as well.
He's got "the look" if anything else. And while I ADORE Kentucky, he's not indicative of the folks I had pleasure to meet. He looks like someone most would stay away from. Probably grew up hearing "That boy, he just aint right yall" He looks like the holler pedo.
The MSM will NEVER support this investigation. If victims come forward they will attack and discredit the victims just like the franklin cover up. Stop waiting for the media to acknowledge this it will never happen.
Only thing I can think of is Fox is a fake news channel.......like the fake Republican Party.......they just give us the illusion of being more right wing. Because its easy to give us a little conservative talk but when it comes down to really important stuff....they just get in line and tell the lies. We need some powerful true conservative to start a fucking national news channel And not a Jew.......
I'm dissapointed at the lack of profanity on your comment, are you getting enough rest?
Jokes aside, this whole thing is spiralling faster than a meth addict on a merry-go-round, the amount of push back from key sectors like the media is very telling
The masses are beginning to suspect and it scares them
Oh dear Lord, anyone watch body language and can tell when people lie? Whenever he looks up...that indicates he's lying. He is "searching" for what to say. He blinks a lot. However, he's a nutcase, because I can see he believes what he says as well. He's lying about the gun...it wasn't an assault rifle.
Watch how he looks to the side too, also an indication he's lying. I've studied this quite a bit, detectives, profilers...the information I'm talking about all comes from their studies. He's lying, LIARS, Thieves and people hurting defenseless people are scum. He is SCUM. This makes the drive even harder, my resolve is stronger. Thanks for posting that youtube vid..that small interview tells me plenty about this man.
After speaking to a couple county officers, they've told me that any detective will tell you that if he were pressed, he'd break like a dam. They're trained to see those tell tale signs of lies too, in cases of domestic violence it became imperative to learn body language cues. One I'll quote "He is lying like a rug!" His segment was short, but not short enough to hide any of those indicators. Those are the easy ones to detect.
Need to thumbsdown once it hits on the actual FOX youtube channel. Do not let this shit get posted without the true facts. Fuck Alefantis and Megyn Kelly. Alex Jones? So odd they are pinning it on him.
I feel like he's playing an intentional role, here. He is an actor. His role could be the underdog Internet hero, getting everyone to rally around him as the free speech martyr-in-the-making, as Alefantis is the establishment untouchable golden boy with the smirk.
They are setting the precedent that his news is dangerous, so if they take him off the air, they can go after all the non-Globalist NeoLiberal press.
Revealed in InfoWars yesterday; a secret court case is being prepared blaming InfoWars for "inciting insurrection". Whether they win or lose he case while in court they'll try to have InfoWars pulled from the airways until the court case is heard
Not surprised. What they don't get is that we... US... won't be cucked. Keep your shit up bro. Just retweeted your shit and added her in. Fuck her bro.
I love how every MSM "debunk" conveniently leaves out 99% of the reason why people are looking into him in the first place. If he and his buddies didn't go out of their way to stick pedophilic and disturbing imagery in every place they possibly could, they wouldn't have much to worry about.
It is intersting to see how the MSM is framing it. I know Pizzagate well, I've seen the evidence. I still can't say I'm certain one way or the other about anyhing.
What I can say, though, is that the media is absolutely lying about what's been uncovered. They are absolutely, unequivocally, misrepresenting us. They build up these colorful straw man then just set them on fire and piss all over us and make us seem like we're insane.
Trouble is, I know I'm not crazy. I'm just a normal, very well educated dude with a family.
Watching the MSM behave this way,, more than anything else I've seen, is the scariest thing about Pizzagate so far....and THAT is saying something.
The MSM carries water for these disgusting people. Just like they defended Clinton and did nothing but attack Trump the entire campaign (not making this political that is just an example)show how partisan they are and where their allegiances are.
I am glad more are starting to see how the MSM is ANYTHING but journalism.
Seconded. Well educated person, here, with a degree or two and loving family... Something is up. The best way I can articulate it is... okay... maybe somehow all of this is a coincidence. Fine. But we are NOT crazy for seeing some patterns. They've been uncovering SO many people with famous and public lives that have been doing this for YEARS. It's like a new huge pedo ring every day. How do people not even care if this is a possibility? That, I think, disturbs me the most...
Interview posted on FOX. Good thumbs down ratio right now. Keep it up and comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXApkzwKIh8 Make sure people see this one and not the ripped versions on rando channels.
Your observations are absolutely spot on and irritate exactly what I am thinking.
The media and their OTT defence of PizzaGate is extremely bizarre and proves we are onto something very big. Certainly much bigger than just CPP
Several bloggers have reported massive DDOS attacks, hack attempts, threats, etc. Where's all the money coming from for such a concerted online attack on PG investigators???? They'd never do this about any other subject except 9/11.
Couldnt agree more im in the same boat, university educated, gamefully employed not some paranoid loner. For a long time ive been aware that a small group of self intetested people have been shaping the world socially and economicallly to suit their agendas but i never subscribed to the idea of an organised new world order i always thought that was a bit paranoid and that if it seemed like it was the case it was probably because a lot of the time elite interests overlap.
After seeing this im not so sure. Ive been keeping my eye on this for over a month now and the actions of the media coupled with the massive amount of connections investigated between the elites and the clintons have made this all seem like im watching the nwo operate in real time. Symbols disappearing from websites, websites taken down, twitter censored, facebook censored, reddit censored etc. its not just mainstream news that are whitewashing this.
Ha. We are all in this together, so it sometimes help to laugh...often at ourselves. We need to do an all-out outreach effort to bring more people into the fold. I launched a Twitter campaign yesterday, new to me as I had not tweeted in over four years, and it seemed to be very successful. I did what I could as I have almost no following (hitting tending posts and tags, hitting some key media accounts, including Megyn Kelly due to the interview, etc.). I could see the response. It drove traffic and signups here last night and this morning...but it was limited since my Twitter skills are limited, I am one person, and I am not in the Twitterverse. We need to really explode this. The idea is simple. Just go on all platforms (Twitter, FB, YouTube comments, anywhere you can post) and post this (or something similar; the key is the #SaveTheKids hashtag and link to VOAT, dodging the use of the censored "pizzagate" verbiage):
The problem is when arguing with the blue pilled, is that you can spit out 10 document facts in an argument, and 1 slightly off detail, and the whole narrative will shift to the minor inaccuracy.
Youre right and its much nicer to be corrected anonymously online than in a room full of people so thanks again.
On that point though isnt it a blessing that james alefantis is such a fucking clown that he decided to post those creepy pictures. Its hard for people to argue with you when you're holding a picture of a toddler taped to table in their face.
LOL....public shaming is my hallmark ; ) No offense meant.
I'll be honest, the photo of the little girl taped to the table would never have turned my head, if it weren't for the other IG pics. In fact, most of them, as stand alone, wouldn't be all that bad. Or all that bad without the comments. Context is everything.
None taken. Again youre right on its on own it wouldnt be that bad but there is plenty of context and ive found when atop my soapbox that people are most responsive to that picture in particular so i tend to use that as one of my go to arguments. My redpilling attempts go as follows: 1. Brief explanation of how pizzagate started 2. Show alefantis IG pics (emphasis on aforementioned) 3. Show the wikileaks email about the 3 kids in the pool. 4. (And most importantly because it shows confidence and certainty ) urge the person to read about it for themselves. Works a treat!
still can't say I'm certain one way or the other about anyhing.
I wish more people on here would speak like this. There is a reason that Alefantis and everyone being accused in this thing are getting death threats every day and it is because of the irresponsible way people are throwing around the pedophilia accusation. Did you hear that audio of David Brock tearing up? There wasn't much sympathy for him on here and the way people are talking about alefantis in this and other threads is not living up to the pizzagate mantra that you're simply asking for there to be an investigation. The pedophilia claim is thrown around wildly with no care for the weight of the accusation despite professing continuously to care about it deeply.
Pizzagate is a witch hunt don't be part of the problem.
Congrats! You just earned my very first downvoat ever.
There's a kernel of truth in what you said: as always, caution is advised in forming conclusions, and any conclusion not directly resting on absolutely incontrovertible evidence should be revisited whenever a new idea is raised. But your closing sentence went too far.
The best evidence of the truth is behavior. Behavior is THE TELL when truth is in question. When you see someone like Megyn Kelly, who is a very capable interviewer, conduct that kind of soft-pedal interview about such a serious matter, that says a lot. When you see the media do a full-court press against a story involving hurting kids, actively misrepresenting what pizzagate is about and our findings, that is telling you where their interests lie. It reinforces the actual truth that this pedo thing involves people in high power and the media itself. When you witness first hand a false flag event, something you have heard about and always dismissed, involving a gunman...after you have seen them move the cameras pointing at CPP just prior to the event and you see them post the actual news stories online before the event has started, all of which is documented, any doubt is removed. When you observe CTR shills hitting this site hard, even downvoting an effort to spread the hashtag #SaveTheKids, you know they want this to remain hidden. I am well-educated and not a conspiracy person, but a friend asked me to look into this. If you investigate, what you find is horrible and incredibly hard to swallow. The evidence is broad and deep. And the behavior of those in the middle of all of this is some of the strongest proof if you are having trouble accepting the massive amount of evidence that we have found. This is going on...at the highest levels of society and government, throughout the world.
Clearly dont want to let lid blow off on this because of its massive ramifications although anyone who has truly researched this matter realizes that this goes much deeper than alefantis' CPP or the podestas. This could lead to the outing and ultimately the undoing of a malignant blight on many of those affected directly or indirectly by such needless cruelties. This needs to fully understood by many citizen journalist in order that our children can be safe from these practices, and that this will not be tolerated to continue.
Great comment. The term conspiracy theorist never had a negative connotation (it is a neutral descriptive). But the CIA weaponised it in 1967 - proven by documents released under FOIA - to attack and silence anyone who questioned JFKs death. The idea is to create a culture where we always believe that every negative outcome is either COINCIDENCE or INCOMPETENCE and never entertain a notion that it is CONSPIRACY. In fact they want to create an environment where questioning the official version of any event is 'tinfoil hat', and this is now a reflex response to any suggestion that powerful people have committing crimes. I wrote about it on my blog
See: Operation Mockingbird — scroll down to “History” — which was being written two years before the end of WWII.
See: Operation Paperclip — Wiki’s figures are low — at the minimum 64,000+ which included families but more likely 200,000 according to Kay Griggs/YouTube.
See: Operation Gladio — US program to keep right wing governments in place in the countries over which they had control after WWII — Germany, Japan, Italy. In Italy, US actually resurrected the Mafia in order to ensure the plan would be carried out.
Also they censored the comments. They will tell you it was to "protect" the identity of blah blah blah. Fuck that! Show the damn comments! Did you read them miss Kelly?
Whatever it was they're trying to omit, we need to keep harder after --
This isn't just DC, Virginia -- this is national and this is international.
This is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the framing of politicians to blackmail
them.
This is purposeful destruction of children for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
plus 90% of the footage was just repeating the gunman/police arrest - they didnt show or dicuss any emails and only one instagram. was pathetic and soft
Why she so 'nice'? No real questions at all? Shameful. I have seen her act like a pretty pit-bull on other issues but here, she acts (badly I might add) like Jimmy's protective sister or faghag.
I don't even know why she's still on the air. Nothing but an attention whore shit talking Trump on the one TV news channel I think has a shred of decency. Probably can't fire her at this point in fear of it being labelled a sexist move.
really? Do we know this from some kind of report, or was she just hobnobbing? She doesn't live in DC pretty sure. BTW I put #savethekids on the lurker post. Hope you see some response.
Along with the irresponsible, Russian hacking propaganda.. "Putin did it!", "We will retaliate!" - its all a bunch of bullshit and they are doing nothing but planting the seeds to cover up the "big one" that could be released. Setting the stage if you will.. fuck everyone involved. I hope someone out there with intimate knowledge steps up and does the right thing; despite the massive risk. Time for real Martyrs.
Right they invented "fake news" in an attempt to cover up the whole thing. Ain't none of them gonna actually say anything about it on the air. This is the stuff people die over. It seems even Alex Jones is too scared to take it on, now.
The part that made me maddest was when they blatantly said CPP doesn't have a basement, ignoring the interview in which Alefantis said they did. Wtf this is ridiculous
Man, I have never seen such softball questions ever. I just don't know a solution for this unless VIDEOS of the act comes out or children involved are found and points them out. That's what needs to happen. I agree with all the investigation stuff but reality is we need a smoking gun. PERIOD
Most interesting she showed the empty room but blurred out "killroom" and "murder" in the comments. So covering up the critical inculpatory facts was actually literally done and visible on the screen.
You should watch it. She did mention the evidence if only briefly and with intent to mislead her audience.
I should be reading before I post, you noted it as well. No wonder his segment was so short. Nobody seemed to coach him on it, and boy am I glad. We aren't a nation of dolts...they gave us Internet and Discovery ID, along with TONS of documentaries about profilers. Candice DeLong is a favorite of mine and some more I can't think of because the cover up is just beyond disgusting. I have no words...none.
Wow, it just goes to show that Alefantis is the 49th most powerful person in DC for a reason. He has the entire MSM doing his bidding. Why would this guy have so much power? That's the most elusive aspect of this whole investigation.
Not only that, but even alex jones has been saying for a while that comet ping pong and alefantis are a diversion from the real scandal, and they haven't been covering pizzagate for weeks now. trump fired the guy from his transition team who tweeted on pizzagate. the establishment (democrats, republicans and media) will never cover pizzagate.
The articles defend him but are really being pushed to defend those above. This goes to the highest levels which is why they are scrambling so much and fighting so hard to block the general public from seeing this news.
YOU ALL ARE IN THE EXTREME MINORITY. I will never be able to convince you all but the reason there is no real investigative journalism into this is because everyone in journalism and the police have looked at the evidence and seen nothing but completely normal activity. Remember this is a bubble where you almost always hear people who agree with you but almost everyone else sees nothing and it's not a coverup.
Being in the minority doesn't mean we are wrong. The top 1% smartest most knowledgeable humans are in the minority, they still know more than everyone else. And they're also the ones investigating this. :-)
I think you need to actually look at some of what has been uncovered, maybe start with the sticky. Compare what this investigation is looking into with the blatant lies the media have been telling about it. Just that alone should tell you something is very wrong going on here.
I know you don't want to believe it, because it's so horrible, but try and be honest with yourself and ask yourself if you want to be on the side of protecting children and your fellow humans, or on the side of hideous mentally deformed monsters who would rape, torture and murder you and everyone you love just for fun if they knew they could get away with it?
OK. So you are skeptical...or a CTR shill. Since you believe so much in rational analysis, are you willing to go through a Q&A where I ask you specific questions about actual findings, and you can explain them? The media has made no effort to debunk as they have not even looked at the facts.
Read through my comment history and especially the last conversation I had with nnfx. If you want to ask me questions go ahead, but I can only explain why most people do not believe conspiracy theories like this, I sum it up in some of my comments.
They just really like his pizza, it's unlike any pizza they have ever had. Extra cheese. Remember last time the entire international media machine religiously defended a small food establishment? Me neither.
Took time and arguments to figure out which picture they could explain away the best, Soros was arguing for the yellow beads "chickenlover" to the end.
You can't blame them - Jimmy Comet pizza guy is the 49th most powerful man in Washington and when he needs a national platform the press grovels at his feet!
Yep. Any not worried of those children and babies in the pictures has no ethics. Movies and such are rated for R and x rated for a reason. Twitter is a public site and on public settings; they posted all you me ruined and more that fully show; they are not safe/ healthy for children to be around. Clearly, sell pizza and any pedo will be called safe. How much research shows that pedo and rapists are often ones that know a child?
As cps is the state fed agency that must investigate all cases reported; cps is never mentioned by the media. No compassion or concern that child safety is a pertinent Issue. ( In even general terms).
Who posts back to media with cps law, the Obama bill allowing media propaganda, child psychology for EVEN in cps court cases; these are all required elements of a legal case.
I'm not sure why more are not pointing out cps failure to investigate, mandate report failures, the children in pics, child psychology, and cps cases that destroyed citizens as comparative analysis are not being used to expose media elite as false and public pressure those kids/ infants are found.
Yah, cps sucks, but that's not my point; the failure of the laws being used that ARE CERTAINLY, state and federal severe violations by cps and all whose jobs do require mandate reporting to cps.
Or the fact, that cps is refusing to now take reports in many calls and intimidating to police; WHEN out of jurisdiction calls to report crimes cannot be done to dc cops, only cps.
Knowing the laws, and anything not adhering is WHAT IS FALSE, and what even stands in a law abiding court room.
It is common knowledge that tunnels run under dc, just like NYC. It is clear as day he is having major construction and not have a permit in a low level. It is clear as day, gay or not that they have severe sex addict, impulse control Issues that are pervasive, no boundaries and not family oriented but xxx rated.
It's clear as day that many of them have high risk of harboring or history of venereal disease. ( Kind of a joke) but, I would starve then ever eat any food they touched.
It is clear as day that ones are so die hard for this pizza joint that this guy can do anything, and they would be oddly loyal.
Some even take pics by comet with little kids and say they stand with comet. Sorry, that is not the kids voices, but as usual adults first, not children.
On Facebook, the GoFundMe is posted by ones appearing against pedo; but ALOT are sexual oriented , actors in horror shows, on gay mags. Probable that b list actors are now hired.
Aside, one of Soros own psychological sites, is called some conspiracy thing. His England psychology organizations do state the psych social economic studies to impact the populace. Yet, concerned citizens of kids are the false news?
The shooter, sure has a very depressed, sex orientation brother.
It's at the point that ssexual printed communities need to stand up and say they do not support any that pedo.or satanic. It's giving them a bad name. Not all are like that, and stay away from bar scenes and such that are creepy and demand attention on genitals; which is really low self esteem. OK, you like same gender, doesn't need to be an obsession daily for whole world to be brought into your personal biz and boundaries. While world does not want to see your crotch..
And, any regular citizen caught on video sext texting, jacking off like Weiner would be having cps at their door. Canon now, read up on cps cases of intrusion, for absolutely nothing. Besides the inappropriate sexual, the child could have wandered off and been injured many times. That is also negligence.
Huma had enough money to hire a babysitter, or choose not to go to her next party hardy event. She dresses up so much, yet her kid looks like he just got out of bed. Looks like he is always just tagging along like extra baggage.
Thanks. Appreciate your recognition of defiance)))) Be thrilling to finally Trump the unwanted chess games of tyrannical hells..)) back in a corner and metaphorically nonviolence, chop off the legs and expose all the constructive frauds in a qualitative leap.
But hey, if any evils reading this, I'm just practicing art, all the world is a stage; and ya ain't got crap to say if you regurgitate, way overdone Satan. Dime a dozen, mofos.
And I'll never be perfect pedestal.like a Comet, for too perfect always is a hiding something, bad bad bad.
Lots of strategies, but handing them out in public is dumb. But I highly recommend the movie, Eddy Murphy Running for President. Comedy is so fun, when intent is pure.
Smithsonian 2014 article, on how human meat is a delicacy by a biologist now posing as a wildlife animal advocate.
www.ourpassaic.org an insight on the shady of ex EPA director, Lisa Jackson. A real donkey pony ribbon show gal of masks and role play.
The poor population was not informed nor given evacuation options when they did the FAILED dredging up of most toxic area in USa, Passaic River. Diamond Alkali site, army corps engineer site of manufactured agent Orange. Nitro, WV got a class action. Newark never did. Wilson elementary school evacuated when DEP whistleblower blew.
A little aside, but gives context and texture to potential players and who they played with.
Yup. And Bill Clinton incentivized cps giving them bonuses for taking children out of their homes and placing them in foster care. This whole cps system needs to burn.
Yes, and prior with Bush , etc, etc. All over the web are victim families, and many more unheard that do not have tech access as lives destroyed.
The web, also has the Connecticut dad's that had more money and research skills that took.on cps in divorce/ custody proceedings. No matter how long they ran the rat maze, no justice, added state and federal violations, costs, burden, impacts.
These dad's went from financial security to losing their homes and financial resources, and never got their children back.
Canada, England, etc, same scenarios l;just different names and acronyms of programs and their own dead end, systemic rat maze.
Dr. Phil has the CA, CPS director on his show slot. I think pressure on those two is warranted; for they both go out of their way to state how cps adhered to law and protects children. Or, are the drug addicted teens on the shows, also routed to dangers??? Makes me wonder.
Everyday that cps in DC fails to.invesigate reports on each child/ baby in photos, reported IS additional felony violations that are included in child court cases if ever gets investigated.
Not suprised at all that cps in DC is not adhering to law and investigating the welfare. Yet, every inform recorded call to cps recorded; is evidence of failure to adhere to their legal obligations to welfare check.
That's evidence.
Also, some who call are being refused to report, given a hard time with mind games, saying theyust know names of the children, told to call cops or be transferred to the cops. That is all illegal , also, and is evidence. Who is having the call staff, violate? They also have to allow anonymous calls and give their two digit Id number.
I'm not suprised that call staff would violate and be douche bags, for any call to any govt Corp program or entity is always a bitchslap of citizen exclusion; how dare you expect us to be public servants on your tax dollars and adhere to our job requirements, state fed law, govt Corp contract Integrity Reports that each have to be trained and sign the job contract.
It would be a endless YouTube show of calls to govt entities, for its systemic habit to violate all, browbeat citizen/ beneficiary, rat maze, inaccurate documentation, destroy / alter.
Govt unions didn't endorse Hillary for no reason. I called Obama Whitehouse slot, it was the same and quite snarky.
And if ones calling cps are not in the DC jurisdiction, DC cops do not take case calls from ones out of jurisdiction. Ones have to report to cops in their jurisdiction.
I posted previously, a website of a very long list of court, cps, satanic ritual crimes that demonstrate that govt, courts, judges, drs, social workers and more are quite aware of the pervasive satanic crimes for decades. They also, all profit from cps cases.
I'm curious to who are the Fosters in the DC vicinity area that have a roach motel.of Fosters, abuse to.kids but not busted or on time to.save the kid. There are some good Fosters, but def ones that profit on system and abuse and kill kids that cps fails to protect.
I also, recommend, reviewing the Justin Peltier case, the black.mom that refused to give her young girl the psychotropics, and the parents who let their two kids walk alone to the park.
The comparative contrast of how regular citizens have been destroyed by cps that did no harm, vs the many times that cps failed to.protect kids from obvious horrid abuse that died or were severely injured from abuses, vs the absent in adhering to state/ fed CPS law in doing welfare checks on all the kids/ infants that the Alefontitus chose as an adult to post demeaningly on the public web.
Quite, a contrast of treatment. And as Alefontitus initiated the series of events and IS fully accountable for posting those babies and allowing a family advertised pizza place be so queer kill Bill; quite odd that cps staff, top to bottom are bolding not adhering to law and welfare checking.
Also, any cps workers in nation, teachers, social workers, psychs, drs, attorneys and more that witness those photos and do not Mandate Report as their state or fed license requires; is also violating the law of Mandate Report. They are to fill out a specific form.
This is all common knowledge in these fields and others. All I mentioned is easy to find these legal requirements on the web.
So, the false news is also all of their fraud violations vs adhere parallel to the law. Quite bold, their expected impunity to violate. Hence, more violations documented on tape, more solid the case for the kids.
Getting animal advocates involved would be smart;for they really unite and get angry when hear of animal abuse. Satanic abuse will piss them off, and add a tidal wave to this case.
Only time I've ever watched Megyn Kelly really prior to this was when she did the post-sexual abuse revelation interviews of the Duggars. Those were very underwhelming as well. Perhaps not a coincidence.
Since October, I've been watching her, oreilly and hannity at least twice a week. She would get under my skin with some anti trump pro Hillary stuff, and her low cut dresses annoyed me. Cocktail party or a date? sure. A Presidential debate and to report the nightly news? not so much.
Anyway, I was still able to respect her opinion while many other trumpkins could not. But now, nope. I've been wanting to watch tucker Carlson anyway. I'll start dvring him instead.
I boycotted her a while back when she jumped on the anti-Trump bandwagon with 98% of the rest of the media. Fortunately, her days are numbered there and her ratings have been dropping like a rock.
Puts a whole different perspective on her (recently softened) dominatrix look - likely a sadistic pedo herself. I doubt this was the first time these two met. Be on the lookout for photos of her with the Podesta/CPP crowd. These people need to be picked up and held for serious interrogation - Patriot Act style.
My grandma had one for us kids, but she didn't watch it. She called it the "Squawk box" and told me I musn't waste my time in front of it. Grandma is always right, always. I admit I do watch mine, but I restrict it to the true crime shows, there's a couple network shows, but mostly I'm into Netflix and the documentaries. ANYWHERE I can find interesting docs, I fall into a documentary wormhole. I think there's some good in tv, but it's like looking for a diamond in a pile of cow pies these days. I like to feed my brain, not dull it. I'm glad I didnt go falling victim to the crap shows they used to program people. That's the ONLY explanation I can come up with why people are lacking empathy. The celeb worship has ruined our country. They aint nothing but dust if that's what we pay them. Pay them dust, don't even watch out of morbid curiosity. The ratings WILL TALK.
And when the truth is out, they better not even DARE try to get exclusives, and shove journalists that researched to bring it the spotlight it needs. The reporters ignoring and participating in the arm of cover up, enjoy your "career" while it lasts. I've blocked these channels. Nobody else in the house watches it, we just use netflix. I think I'm in contract with my cable company...there should be a way to break the tv part. If people do this en masse, the cable companies will freak out.
Time for me to take a xanax....damn I'm over here shaking like a pup passin a peach pit :/
Clinker ago
I am super angry and Megyn Kelly for not doing a proper job of looking at the mountain of weak circumstantial evidence that James Alefantis is running a pedo-sex operations. I am not a shill. I totally believe that this shit-ton of circumstantial evidence is true. There is no one piece of evidence that you can point to. It takes time to sort through it all. Time that Megyn Kelly did not spend.
On the other hand, Megyn Kelly is NOT A WHORE. Stop fucking saying shit like that. It is UNHELPFUL.
I listened to her book, #SettleForMore, read in her own voice. She is not a shill. But she lived most of her live as a lawyer. She is non-partisan, but is trained to take a side and then fight to the death for that side like a pit bull. The problem is that she spend a year with (supposed) Trump supporters threatening her family, and making her life hell.
Maybe it was Correct the Record people doing it, or some other Scott Foval type operation. But it really upset her. She has young children, and she has had to deal with scary stalkers.
I am quite embarrassed that she ran with this story without due diligence. She is wrong, Comet Ping Pong is a sick place. Evidenced by the mountain of pictures and comments from James Alefantis' instagram, and others. Megyn Kelly is guilty of jumping to conclusions. She bought the story of the 'gunman'. Pathetic.
But. Do not call her a whore, and do not lump her in with the media members who are actually in on this pedo ring. As smart as she is, in this case she is being played. As a journalist, she should have seeked out the most reputable source that thought that Comet Pizza is mixed up in a pedo ring. Instead, she cherry-picked a couple photos, and didn't even hold Alefantis accountable for his comments!
But again, this does not mean it is ok to call her a whore. I really do not believe for one second that she is involved in the actual ring.
unfuckitup ago
Is it just me or does it seem that MSM is acting really stupidly about the so called 'fake news' problem. If I wanted to combat pizzagate, I'd just leave it alone and hope it would go away like other so called conspiracy theories. They are making it seem all the more obvious by giving forum to a supposedly poor pizzaria guy.
lostinthevalley ago
Is there some reason she was wearing purple, just like Killary's been doing? Is she signaling she's also part of Soros's color revolution? That dress couldn't be any sexier and Me-again's makeup was put on with a shovel instead of a trowel this time.
dreamdigital ago
I look at it this way. If he's smart enough to know who Moloch is, and claim to worship Moloch and go to spirit cooking's with the Podesta's or what not, he's smart enough to know that what he was posting was Pedo in nature if not outright suggestive. Moloch (Molech) is not something that is common knowledge.
Cbradio ago
Ah, thx. I want that book.
coincidencesmyass ago
And she is a mother! How can she do this??? What if it was your child Megyn? Cold hearted bitch.
coincidencesmyass ago
Reminds me of the way she interviewed the Duggars - completely unobjective, protecting the parents, and covering/minimizing the incest by the brother.
AJ-Styles ago
I didn't watch it, but another user told me they showed the killroom picture but blurred out #murder & #killroom
Who the fuck is the editor over there? How did they think they could get away with that?
grannyCath ago
Wow! She could have skewered him. Of course the soft ball questions were pre arranged,. The 1 photo discussed was the very one I knew it would be! How the hell could he explain the pic of an infants face that he captioned Hoe-Tard? The words of " Majestic Ape? " the degrading satanic art, in a family restaurant? Portraying a wealthy powerful sicko as a victim? I will never watch her again.
Bolux ago
A couple of things,did anyone expect anything different and in a way this is good for us.He can try and explain till he's blue in the face about the Instagram but I'm sure most normal still think it's creepy as fuck also just the fact that it's on MSN makes it relevant to talk about around the water cooler,friends,family etc.Talk about it to anyone who will listen.Discuss it,be calm,just mention that you've seen his other Instagrams and how disturbing they are ,suggest the go on YouTube and watch something on it.Dont push it too much you will lose them,people don't want to believe this ,hell we don't want to believe this .Keep up the great work y'all.
KingOfEverything ago
EVERYBODY SPAM TUCKER HES ASKING WHAT NEWS TO COVER TONIGHT
RecycledUser ago
As a mother, she should be ashamed.
RecycledUser ago
She got blasted on her Twitter page, if anyone wants to add to it.
Hermesthriceborn ago
Did you all really expect Megyn Kelly to jump on board? For Fucks SAKE! Face it guys their tactics are working we are talking about Alefantis & not Investigating CF!!!
reasonedandinformed ago
It was in response to an earlier part of the thread. There are people showing up new everyday who need to know that this investigation includes people of all types...people who care. It is not somehow limited to the lunatic fringe or uneducated trolls who "get their news from the fake media." It was written for people who look at what we are doing with disdain (or at least come in with pre-conceived notions). I was not trying to brag but create convey the idea for the type of people I know (I have talked to some) who are educated and easily dismiss this out of an intellectual arrogance. I am NOT above anyone in this and did not write that as a point of arrogance. I sincerely meant well and intended to put that in for the reasons stated above.
Baconmon ago
TL;DR:
megyn: "How terrible that all of these false accusations are happening to you!"
alfflannttiss: "I know right?"
The End.
Black_Phillip ago
But the DC police police said it was fake news!
Fuck off Kelly
Black_Phillip ago
Which is still an unsettling picture, I still don't get why "that's my god daughter" is an acceptable response.
What normal person takes that picture and thinks it's funny? Even posts it?
RecycledUser ago
Totally agree.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Or, more probably, his numerous other properties around DC.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
"nearly shunt their cerebellum to ground"
what is this I don't even
ZalesMcMuffin ago
The artwork you describe was by Kim Noble (or one of her alternate personalities) and there's no evidence that it -- or anything else by her -- was ever in CPP. What happened is people saw a piece of art on the front of a flyer for a CPP event with a band, and the poster art bore a resemblance to a painting by Noble. They were then juxtaposed by someone for comparison. People saw this and jumped to a false conclusion that the Noble image they were looking at was inside CPP.
Your posting comes across as wide-eyed and ranting. That's not helpful right now. That's how they want to depict us.
Please take your own advice and research more carefully. There is a lot of rumor-hysteria and also a lot of disinfo-spreading taking place. Accuracy is the road to success.
Notwithstanding, I don't want to in any way dampen your zeal, just help you focus it to improve effectiveness. Thanks for caring and for taking the time to compose your thoughts about this absurd cover-up job of an interview.
maggieissosmart198 ago
Faux News is no different from any of the other msm outlets when it comes to touchy subjects that truly expose the corruption present on capitol hill and the white house.
They lean a little further right only to catch a larger percentage of the population and appease the dumb-masses in to believing that the news we hear on tv is the gospel truth.
Kudos to all here that are doing the work our fbi should be doing. But as we are well aware, our govmnt does not self investigate. The days of elected officials being held accountable are nearly gone. Only a limited few political law breakers get "picked" or "sacrificed" on a small scale to appease the masses.
Pizzagate is a phenomenon unlike any I've ever witnessed. The Streisand effect is in high gear like never before and we see it for what it is.
We're fully cognizant of what's happening here. I promise to continue my research and spreading the word as many of you here have.
The big picture here is as simple and basic as black and white. It's good vs. evil on an incredible scale. Good luck to everyone on the good side out there! Hopefully the "dumb-masses" will catch on soon.
Pizzagatethroaway499 ago
Think about this...how many of you would NOT have sued Alex Jones for what Meghan Kelly played on her show last night? I'm not sure when he said that because I haven't really watched him very much. She has the means to sue him if she wants to and if it's NOT true, why wouldn't she sue? If someone called me straight out a child rapist and killer like he called her I would slap a lawsuit on them so fast even if I had to type the paperwork myself!
Meghan doesn't know it , but she motivated us even more! As a matter of fact, I think I'm going to print up T shirts and give them to everybody I know for Christmas!
lipids ago
Just staying informed and talking about it is helpful. This information will not be spread by traditional media.
1Termite ago
Why did you paint over all of the Pedo Artwork on your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant? Why???? We have copied and archived the images of the sick artwork that was all over your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant. So again, Why did you paint over all of the Pedo Artwork on your "Kid Friendly" Restaurant?
MWcrazyhorse ago
Everytime a msm (or CIA?) pundit smears Pizzagate I am thinking "I wonder... are they are connected?".
thezodiac ago
It's called disinformation. That's why it was on fox and not in the liberal media.
thezodiac ago
Downvoated. Probably a shill who wants upvoats without damaging his masters. Fuck off
SheSaidDestroy ago
Thanks for another big streisand effect wave, Kelly! Now even more people have and can become curious and find out for themselves what lying, soulless pieces of shit you and the rest of the MSM are, and just how much you've all deliberately hidden and mocked while thousands of children are being trafficked, raped and murdered throughout western governments every year. Good job?
VieBleu ago
Sometimes it is still hard to keep in mind that Jimmy Comet pizza guy might very well have the DIRT on everyone in Washington DC or their boss. 49th most powerful and no wonder the press let's him sit and smirk without answering any real questions.
VieBleu ago
And the New York Times is LITERALLY the press desk for the White House.
dindonufin ago
She's a cunt.
dindonufin ago
Bimbo.
i_own_agent_smith ago
Was my post instrumental in your subscription?
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Where did you see that? It wasn't part of the YT posting I watched (unless I dozed off in the middle).
centima ago
Used to cover the breaking of the birth certificate evidence.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
"Celente"
I'm not sure he coined it, but I dunno who did. Could be him. Too lazy to go digging ATM.
Presstitutes is a much better term than "mainstream" media. Labeling our enemy's controlled media "mainstream" implies we're fringe. Bad message to send.
WanderingMitten ago
You know what's the most pathetic thing about this? The granddaughter narrative. You want to ease peoples suspicions? Then why don't you put the fucking child on TV and show her that she is indeed your granddaughter? Don't you know how TV works? You bring on a child, show the photo and then PROVE that it's your granddaughter and yet, they keep saying this granddaughter narrative with 0 proof.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Goddaughter, not granddaughter. AFAIK he's never sired any cuntfruit.
Parents of the girl mentioned but not identified; invoked as approving his behavior
Employees of CPP mentioned but not interviewed; invoked to curry sympathy
Death threats and harassment tweets mentioned but not quoted/shown; invoked to smear researchers
DC police proclamation mentioned but not shown; invoked to appeal to authority
etc.
I hope lots of people watched this. File under "trying too hard".
charmeuse ago
What a pathetic clownshow. Kelly and Alefantis are both CIA assets, in my opinion. The CIA seems to be dictating the narrative that all the cable channels spew.
Rupert Murdoch is probably part of the ring. Oh, then I just found this:
"The News of the World spiked an exclusive story exposing the science fiction writer Arthur C Clarke as a paedophile, according to a new book about life inside the newspaper whose closure was announced a year ago today. In Hack, an account of his nerve-shredding days as a reporter on the News of the World and then the Sunday Mirror, Graham Johnson claims that although the NOTW prided itself on outing pederasts, editors made an exception for Mr Clarke because he was a friend of Rupert Murdoch."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/press/notw-editor-spiked-paedophilia-scoop-on-arthur-c-clarke-for-fear-of-murdoch-7920816.html
red_pill_stefbot ago
If Pizzagate is just some crazy conspiracy theory, why doesn't that fucking bitch try to de-bunk our claims?
The MSM never addresses any of the facts brought up, they just talk about the "poor unfortunate victims" like Alefantis and they never address the instagram photos, the codewords in the emails, the creepy art, any of it.
She brought up the picture of the girl taped to the table, and he said that it was an innocent picture of his niece. I know if I put a picture of my cousin's daughter taped to a table on my instagram then everyone in my family would think it was super creepy. Who does that?!
ZalesMcMuffin ago
god-daughter, not niece
carry on though...
4thDaGrymReaper ago
Guys don't harass her, that will just prove Jimmys point that its just people with their cpus harassing people and not pissed off people who are disgusted with pedophiles...
FuckTheseSickos ago
It was. For sure. But you see that fuckers lip quiver at 3:53 after she mentions "pedophile" and "rabbit hole" you sure as fuck know she has been reading VOAT and the Tweets by RedGreen. Pedofantis is shaking as he knows he has to do this coverage but is nervous as fuck the truth might slip. .... My rage right now. I feel like breathing fire. FUCK THEM!
https://youtu.be/6wgVScnRfBY?t=3m53s
Like I said below. Watch for this to be posted on FOX for the Kelly file playlist and jump all over it.
ghost_marauder ago
~1:49, they fuzz out the kids face (which is fine), but they also fuzz out his comment. That's just funny.
Also, mute the video and watch his head shaking. His subconscious gestures keep saying he's lying over and over again.
blackfyre_rebel ago
How are you surprised? The TPTB IS the media. I guess because I've been into conspiracy for a while, I don't get shocked or upset by these things.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Yep; I can barely remember any more what it's like to trust TV. It's awfully nice to see all the newcomers boarding the tin foil express!! :-D
mjmoore ago
A body was not discovered buried under anyone's residence, so that is how all of this is going to be written off by the concerned parties. You don't always get Hulk Hogan leg dropping the evil doer. The important thing will be to keep the facts handy and start connecting the dots with other information that comes out in the future. And there will be more information. If this "faithless elector" shit show commences in the next eighty hours, we will be up to our proverbial eyeballs in more leaks from Assange and Russia.
You can attempt to subvert the will of the people. You can be a bizarre pervert. But you cannot be a bizarre pervert who attempts to subvert the will of the people without getting a direct blast from the shit hose. Those days are over. Everyone who eluded justice this time will continue being creatures of habit and step into a another bear trap further on down the line. It happend to Gawker. It happened to the DNC. It will happen to these creeps.
xeemee ago
what did you expect?
the fact that the MSM is covering it at all should be good news - that's a confirmation that there really is something to the story, else they wouldn't feel the need to do damage control
decompyler ago
Awesome... legacy media just keeps reaching for an ever increasing shovel size. Soon they will dig so deep that the hole will collapse in on them. I really don't understand how anyone still believes fake news. For fucks sakes people still think that children really died at Sandy Hook. These "people" are actors. They would sell out their own children for a shiny turd.
arrggg ago
Hahahahah, That is Heraldo level sleazy!
Votescam ago
Everyone needs to act on what they know about MSM and turn it off -- in fact, it would only help if we all pulled out of cable TV. That would send a message.
Thakiddds ago
https://i.imgur.com/kwUIpTJ.jpg
Thakiddds ago
Yup it look like they were doing a piece about the food at the restaurant
B_dog ago
Hi investigators. This is my first post. I'm not jumping to conclusions. But the evidence you've collected about so many different people and organizations sure suggests a great deal. But that's not why I registered and felt like I needed to say something.
I wanted to explain something to all of you, assuming many of you may be under 40. If you are, you probably don't remember the McMartin case. Without too going into it too much, the link I'm leaving is the best place to start, it shaped the way people think about, and even conduct, ritual abuse investigations in the US more than any other case. After the entire mainstream media began to say it was a witch hunt and the allegations were just kids saying things because they were tricked by experts, it shaped public opinion until today.
The main fact used to debunk all the kids and physical evidence was that tunnels, mentioned by all the victims, did not exist. Except they did, absolutely, exist:
http://whale.to/b/stickel.html
So when you run up against older Americans who simply refuse to believe anything like this, the media coverage of the McMartin case and the incredible amount of literature and other media generated in its aftermath is the major reason.
Lastly, notice that this proof beyond any reasonable doubt tunnels did exist, discovered and reported many years ago, has not been reflected in recent literature. So you can add that to the pile of evidence suggesting very powerful people are not interested in the facts, like Megyn Kelly.
See, not even off topic.
Just search McMartin case and you can see it's still used as an example of ritual abuse being something only religious fanatics think exists.
umpteenth ago
I remember being convinced that it was all hysteria as well, reading good investigative articles and then the "false memory syndrome" business getting started up and running.
militant ago
Thank you for sharing this.
B_dog ago
You're welcome. I found it linked at Last American Vagabond. I don't think younger people can possibly grasp how much this changed everything in the US because you did not live through the media storm.
LadyMinx ago
riveting description. I remember the case and thought I followed it. I was in my 20's at the time. I don't think I remember the satanic abuse details. And OMG - when digging to find the tunnels they found a plate with a couple of pentagrams on it that were drawn by hand...by an adult. And the cauldrons...wtf. I wish I could UN-see that in my minds eye. Thank you for this post!
militant ago
Yeah, I'm sub 40 myself and not even American so I didn't know that story, however I perfectly understand what you mean. I witnessed a similar case happening in my country. The official story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outreau_trial.
At the time, despite being already very aware of the existence of large pedo rings protected by the medias/politicians/etc., I didn't pay much attention to it, I was assuming that if the media were all screaming "fake!" on this particular story, then it was surely fake.
I realized only years later that the whole thing was actually a massive psy-op which completely shaped the perception of the public, the media, the police and the justice towards pedophile rings. Mission accomplished.
Needless to say, the craziest thing is that it was obviously a real pedophile ring, with real victims, murders, "mysterious powerful people wearing masks", etc., but now when a similar case breaks out, the pavlovian reaction from the media and, sadly, the public is to yell "remember Outreau!" and "the children must be lying!".
B_dog ago
McMartin was, in terms of media coverage, close to the OJ trial. As for importance with regards to changing public perception, it was infinitely bigger than the OJ case. At the beginning people believed the children and wanted convictions. After it was over, people wanted to charge the very young victims, their parents, expert witnesses, everyone in favor of prosecution basically, with crimes for bringing it up. After McMartin, people were scared to even suggest ritual abuse allegations could be true.
And then, six years later in 1990, the dig proved the key element of the case missing previously. And somehow, nobody noticed or cared.
I did not know this dig had been conducted and found the tunnels until Pizzagate. I have read quite a few people online in the last couple weeks using McMartin to say Pizzagate is ridiculous.
Two years ago, CBS article, nothing about tunnels: https://www.google.com/amp/losangeles.cbslocal.com/2014/08/04/30-years-later-key-figures-reflect-on-mcmartin-child-abuse-case/amp/
"Since the McMartin trial, new protocols have been developed."
"Developed", thanks to a media lynch mob condemning children based on false analysis of the case. The question is, false on purpose? I could link hundreds or thousands of articles just like this, and books.
militant ago
The similarity is astonishing.
arrggg ago
This was her interview for a show on CNN. She just proved she is as sleazy as Anderson takesitinthePooper. Guaranteed she gets her own show now.
waybackwhen1987 ago
In Australia we call them rockspiders because they get into small cracks... I hope justice is served this time keep digging anons were close! these motherfuckers are scared!
ArchCovenant ago
Shamefully took one picture, and made it seems so innocent as her bleeding heart was unbearable to witness! Her career is finished. She should have done her homework.
arrggg ago
That guy is totally a serial killer.
FritzTheKat ago
Megyn is pimping her kids.
zlomsocz ago
anybody think the sean hannity/ julian assange "proof" of life, interview was timed on the same network, on the same day (today) for a reason??
massconception ago
Why would they hire even so much as a janitor that they didn't know was compromised and/or compromisable?
Think about it. In their world, dirt is the only gold. If they don't have dirt on you, you can't be their friend.
thelastaelor ago
it's fox news what did you expect?
scoopadoop ago
I never liked Megyn Kelly. Call me a bigot but I just don't trust cylons. She is obviously a model six.
JUNOAK ago
Not sure what you mean
DrJamesA ago
It must be nice to be an average pizza store owner and get an interview on FOX when someone is picking on you! I'm sure all the Christian business owners sued by the LGBT mafia would've liked the same courtesy.
DrJamesA ago
What's funny is Alex Jones just covered a quote about Hillary Clinton where the media has been taking something out of context regarding him blaming her for "chopping up babies" (where the quote IN CONTEXT is actually about her support of Saudi Arabia which kills women and children), and Megyn Kelly quoted the exact same excerpt. That shows that Kelly gets her talking points from the same central Press Klux Klanquarters.
Kapao ago
Pointing a finger and saying, "Fake!" is not journalism. Nowhere does she say how the claims are discredited. This was either lazy as hell or deliberately orchestrated, and it feels like the latter.
Headstart ago
When will Assange get his own TV show?
Breitbart needs a channel too.
Gorillion ago
"Rekcuf-rehtom siht nrub!"
Chance903 ago
Indeed my friend, indeed ,Mockingbird to a t.
Chance903 ago
Why would it matter if you were upvoated in order to investigate, some of us have NEVER asked to be upvoated, just try contributing .
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Fair enough.
I upped them anyway though. Felt generous; message sounded sincere. Now let's see what they do with their new powers (when they reach 100)...
Chance903 ago
I just am not upvoating anyone that asks for it. I just feel like things in life should be earned that is why I hate SJW, they feel they deserve shit just because they breath. fuck that.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Well I got 7 downvoats and no ups for my comment, so it looks like your view is the winner.
kekistocrat ago
The 'shooter' must have been about 15 feet tall for the computer on the floor to be hit by a ((magic?) bullet (theory)) that hit the lock about 4 feet up and was fired from a handgun/rifle/shotgun which was pointed at an employee... er, the ground... er, the ceiling. This is classic. It should be completely evident to those in the know that the only reason why the MSM is covering this is because they are forced. The only thing to do is keep digging and keep pressing.
momojaja ago
This Alefantis guy sure has some unearned influence in the media, i guess that is where sleeping with the right people can get you!
JUNOAK ago
My main message to you all would be that it is fine to believe and say this but leave it at 'something is shady' until you have the proportional amount of evidence to make the very heavy and serous claim of pedophilia. Can we all agree that we do not condone the death threats that alefantis, and I'm sure others, are getting daily? And I understand that you are not responsible for the death threats and for that guy going into the pizzeria with a gun, but that guy was online reading what everyone was writing and basing his actions off of that.
Look through this thread and ask yourself if it sounds like people are simply suspicious of alefantis and haven't made up their mind or do people seem sure of themselves? And what is this based on? Do you really believe you've made the appropriate accusation based on the appropriate evidence?
One thing I have been asking pizzagate people is this (and it's important so think about it!): Is pizzagate falsifiable? What evidence could be shown that could exonerate those being insinuated as pedophiles?
SpikyAube ago
Of course it is falsifiable. All they needed to do was to explain all the evidence, and how come it was ALL just a coincidence, and how it had been wrongly interpreted. So far, Alefantis explained a couple of the instagram pictures and that's it. But when you look at ALL the connections and events and organisations and places and people that ALL happen to relate to child trafficking or paedophilia in some way, it becomes a statistical improbability that is pretty much indistinguishable from impossibility that these connections all relate to paedophilia only by chance and coincidence, and not because they are actually all connected through paedophilic activity.
Don't you recognise that if these people had come out and addressed the concerns, and given a reasonable, coherent and innocent explanation for everything, then this investigation wouldn't have gone further, that it would have died down? There can only be one reason why no such explanation has been offered, and that's because there isn't one.
You're being incredibly blind and suffering from massive cognitive dissonance. Which is understandable, because it's so horrific. I wonder if you have really looked at all the evidence that's been found, or if you've just scraped the surface with Comet ping pong and the instagram pictures. Those things are really not much compared to what else has been discovered. I suggest you go check it out, because you'll feel really awful and guilty in the end, about trying to defend these people when you hadn't really looked into it properly.
JUNOAK ago
I'd like to respond to you a little more in depth but in the mean time look at this it is a video of alefantis talking to two protestors outside comet. He's explaining the picture of the girl with her hands taped to the table, then look down at the comments. Now consider this: nothing will ever be enough. There will never be an explanation good enough. The answers given will always be turned against the accused, and once you have submitted yourself to the mob you are at their mercy.
Do you believe the response given in the video?
SpikyAube ago
Yeah some of the pictures could have innocent explanations and he could explain them away perhaps. He explains one picture there, but can you not see how it becomes harder and harder to give a plausible explanation for more and more pictures and comments? How many people have so many dubious photos and comments on their instagram, AS WELL as having weird emails between them and some of the most powerful people in the country, AS WELL as having two restaurants on a street of places that have paedophile symbols in their logos, AS WELL as one of your restaurants having a paedophile related name, and on and on it goes with more and more things that an innocent explanation has to be found for, and really to be plausible you need a single explanation or two that explains ALL of these things. And the only explanation there is at the moment is the paedophile ring/child trafficking operation explanation. They haven't offered another one. Giving an innocent explanation for one photograph out of ALL the other things is nowhere near enough. And Alefantis and his instagram isn't even the most important stuff, that's just the stuff people happened upon at the beginning, if I understand the timeline correctly.
You are the one who is ignoring all of the other things that have been found, you're ignoring how insanely unlikely it is for all of these links to paedophilia and child trafficking to just be coincidence and actually nothing to do with child trafficking or paedophilia. Look through all the evidence, forget about the pictures if you really believe they are innocent. Enter the investigation from a different place. I think you are either incredibly naive, haven't actually read through what people have discovered beyond the instagram stuff, or you're actually part of the effort to shut this down to protect those involved. Either way, you are not making good arguments, at all.
JUNOAK ago
Let me focus on Alefantis. The claim is that Alefantis is a pedophile who is apart of child sex trafficking ring. In order for this to be true the very basic facts would have to be that Alefantis has a sexual attraction to minors and has acted on that attraction. Also my main point would be what is the minimum amount of certainty you would need to accuse that person publicly of pedophilia and child abuse?
I think that it should be obvious enough that you can not prove that someone is not a pedophile, since that's something that exists only in someone's mind. You could technically make a case for anyone being a pedophile. Someone could investigate you and note all the things that may signify that you might be a pedophile. They could see that you seem to love Disney movies and frequently go to Disneyland, a place mainly for children. Maybe they would notice that you are particular close to one of your younger cousins. Maybe you have liked a few photos on facebook with young family members in swimsuits. The case could be made for anyone, but for nearly every single person it would not be true and wouldn't be convincing either. But there is nothing that you could show that would prove definitively, with no doubt, that you do not have a sexual attraction to minors. So when is it appropriate to say that someone is a pedophile and a child abuser?
I agree generally with the method you say you're using, which is that enough coincidences can make something that is not the simplest explanation for one occurrence very likely given many coincidences. Like if someone were to walk out with something in their pocket when they left the store and when they were caught they said it was a mistake, that would be very believable. But if they continuously did it multiple times a month it would become very difficult to believe that each time there was a simple explanation that was not theft. You could not come up with an explanation for each indivudual occurrence and have it be believable. The most likely explanation would be theft, the individual explanations for each time would be very unlikely, and in the middle probability-wise would be something that ties all the events together like maybe dementia which would be unlikely but not unthinkable.
But I would say that these things you mentioned are not coincidences relating to pedophilia. [Although you and almost every pizzagater I've ever talked to has said that the instagram stuff is not the main evidence, the only evidence I've ever heard them bring up is that (also you list it first in the coincidences against him) so I'm going to talk about that.] Here is the evidence related to the question:
Does Alefantis have a sexual attraction to minors?:
The rest of the evidence isn’t directly related to Alefantis but I think still counts for something, possibly testament to his character:
I was generous with the first list since the last three are only tangentially related to sexual attraction to minors. And the other evidence I’ve seen mentioned is not related to the question “is alefantis a pedophile? “. Also I forgot the second part of the question “Has he acted on that attraction?”. Here’s the evidence for that:
NOTHING. NO accusations from victims, NO witness accusations, NO accusations from a second hand witness, NO accusations or evidence whatsoever. Absolutely nothing.
And that’s actually important to note because although it’s repulsive to any normal person it is not a crime to be sexually attracted to minors. When that woman overheard Jared Fogle talking about how he was sexually attracted to children he wasn’t immediately arrested, there was a very long investigation.
Now looking at the evidence for “is alefantis a pedophile” you’ll see that these are not instances of the same thing like the shoplifting example. Only if these things are all connected could they all be explained by one thing: pedophilia. But if he is a normal person then these things are not connected like my example of investigating you and making a case, those things aren’t connected unless you are a pedophile.
IF he had multiple pictures of children taped to a table he could not say every time it was his goddaughter and sister playing, that would be odd there would need to be more explanation. IF he consistently posted children in sexually provocative photos and made sexually provocative comments about children, that would need an explanation. But does he? I don’t know how old his instragram profile is but from the posts I’ve seen it is at least 4 years old and has nearly 800 posts ! There are maybe 5 or 6 pictures that have been cited as questionable. If in one of those posts he explicitly stated he was a pedophile that would be enough. Or had a picture that was definitively cp that would be enough. But that’s not what is there you just have to be honest with yourself and look at them individually and ask what is the likelihood that this was meant in a sexual way? And then look at them altogether as posts across many years and ask does it add up to proof.
Let me offer what I think the most mundane/likely explanations are for the evidence:
Antinous: Alefantis is gay, antinous is known as a “gay icon” according to the wiki page cited
Hotard: The guy says hotard when he is already talking about alefantis and not the baby so he is probably talking about alefantis, then alefantis says it probably back at him. If they are referring to the baby then they are probably just assholes who don’t know where to draw the line. There are actually many plausible possibilities for this one that I've talked about before.
Chickenlovers: The child might be eating chicken/likes chicken like most kids do. Also chicken lover is an extremely easy phrase to put together without talking about pedophillia just google it and you’ll see. Also instagram chicken lover and look at how many results there are with kids.
Photo of child taped: His explanation is what most people assumed which is that it was a playful/jokey situation. The girl is smiling and it is not shot in a sexual way.
Restaurant has pedophile slang: It is a themed restaurant and the slang term is also a very common name that would fit the theme.
Pictures of children generally: He is a middle aged man with friends who have children and he owns a restaurant which kids go to.
Baby chewing on money: ? I was never sure why this one was important. Its just a baby and money.
I never got to my last question which is “ what is the minimum amount of certainty you would need to accuse that person publicly of pedophilia and child abuse?” but you know how serious the accusation is and you have a certain responsibility when speaking publicly to not throw around the accusation because there are consequences as we’ve seen with the death threats and the gunman.
Prove it to me: Can you show that alefantis is attracted to minors? Then can you show that he has acted on it? Then can you show he is a part of a ring? Dont be fooled by the amount of evidence! That is a CLASSIC hallmark of conspiracy theories. You need to be able to answer for specific claims.
SpikyAube ago
I found your comment! Sorry I missed it before. It's a very good comment so I'm glad you told me about it.
I do see your point, and there is no conclusive evidence/hard proof that Alefantis is attracted to minors or has engaged in any sexual activity with children. It annoys me that everyone talks about this evidence a well, I think it's because it was the first stuff that was really found and so it's been memed and infographiced and everyone knows it inside out by now.
I think your mistake though happens right at the beginning. You decide to focus on Alefantis and whether he is an active pedophile or not. But that's not the question. The question is: Is there a pedophile and/or child trafficking ring operating within and among the political elite in Washington DC/ the US?
So yes you can focus on Alefantis and go through everything and explain how it's innocent and how he's not a pedophile. But then there's everything else, all the people that are connected to him, to the Podestas, the emails between them, the continuing friendships with several known and convicted pedophiles, the connection with Haiti and the woman arrested for kidnapping 33 kids, who Hillary helped get released, the mine there that Hillary's brother owns, and that researcher Monica Peterson had said she thought was involved in human trafficking, shortly before she mysteriously died. There's the Clinton Foundation UK being registered to an address in London that convicted pedophile MP and accused pedophile Lord (did not go to trial due to him claiming dementia, but there were victims and witnesses) also have companies registered at. There's the fact that the Democrats have been in power in Hawaii for decades, and a building there owned by a trust that has Dem appointed trustees had drawn suspicion due to wifi signals coming from underground, plus off grid power lines apparently feeding an underground space, and where a business owned by a man is registered, that man being suspected of selling child porn through hard drives on eBay, who also happened to be linked with one of Hillary's staff and Comet pingpong. The discovery of the wifi signals and the suspicion of the man selling child porn happened months ago, and was not at all related to the Podesta emails, pizzagate, or any of that. It was later when looking into emails that the name of the man who owned the business in Hawaii popped up, and that building was discovered separately. Thens someone found the post on reddit from someone else who had posted way back about their concerns about how dodgy this place seemed. It's stuff like that which is not a case of people gathering up facts that suit their narrative. Completely independently, and apart in time, people came to similar conclusions through completely different routes.
Also, the pedophile symbols and the restaurant names. So Comet and Ping Pong are apparently sexually suggestive, but Buck's Fishing and Camping are apparently even more related to pedophilia, given that 'Buck' is a name for pedophiles, specifically older men who like young boys, and that camping is a known activity that pedophiles will do with kids as an excuse to prey on them. These facts were discovered in a documentary from the 90s about pedophiles.
The logos - Besta pizza had the triangle spiral logo, and the restaurant across the street had the heart within a heart logo (on their menu underneath a picture of Hillary Clinton with the restaurant owners). The ping pong logo thing was clearly not at all like the one on the FBI list, but those two others look like the pedo symbols for sure.
I can't prove to you that Alefantis is attracted to minors, in fact, even if he's not at all attracted to minors, it makes no difference, because that isn't the question. If you ask me whether there's a pedophile ring operation among the political elite in DC then I would tell you to read through most of the stuff here, to read about the prevalence of this kind of operation among the political elites in countries the world over, and I would say that I know it's not definitive cast iron hard forensic DNA on the murder weapon caught in the act evidence, but it definitely screams out for someone with the experience, knowledge and resources to go get that cast iron evidence, because the statistical probability of it being there to be found is sky high.
JUNOAK ago
Ok, great back and forth. As I have said my main point has been that we should be careful about the accusations we make seeing as how this is done completely in the open. After having read you talk a bit I think/hope I am preaching to the choir.
I felt focusing in on one claim was important because with these things the scope becomes so large that you may become caught up in the amount of evidence and forget that you are making many, many smaller claims and how much evidence do those things actually have? If you do not know whether the larger overarching claim is true should you be making more specific claims about a person based on it? Especially considering the accusation being made. Again, maybe I'm talking to someone who already believes this.
SpikyAube ago
p.s - that STILL isn't all the evidence, there's tons more. There's so much it's impossible to remember it all or condense it!
ZalesMcMuffin ago
If the presstitutes -- and Alefantis -- were trying to get the truth out, they would deal with the evidence directly, instead of using straw men.
An argument has not been defeated until it has been refuted in its strongest form. And that is plainly what Big Media is very, VERY energetically NOT doing. So you need to ask yourself why that would be. Megyn's tears are obviously fake, or she would address the strongest form of our "argument".
Every time they avoid the meat and focus on the parsley and the wilted lettuce AGAIN, it wakes more people up. It's annoying to watch the fakery, but the red-pilling is, on net, a gain.
wgvdl ago
go on whining somewhere else.
ThruTheHaze ago
It was a sad night to see the last bastion fall today with Fox pretty much falling in line with the rest. Even though I fully expected it, I am still sad for my country. One of the things we always could say is that there was always 2 sides to the story in the media.
Saying this though, I won't give up. We are the new and unrealized majority. This is the last gasp of a dying entity. Let them shill. They have nothing left. We have won and they can't even see it.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Nigga, please. Fox been whack all long, f'sho. You jes tunin in late zall.
alliecapone ago
Of course he has their permission, he pays them good money for that. There's things he doesn't have to lie about, just hides the circumstances. I'm boycotting them all. Now I have no news to watch that I'll ever trust, FML Thank god for people here, because as far as news, I know who I can trust here for the most part.
Godwillwin ago
A v/pizzagate meme thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1468006
Find a good meme and tweet
Freemasonsrus ago
C U Next Tuesday Kelly at her best! Why is this surprising? She's a dumb fuck shill and would sell her children to get more money and status.
illbrbwithmyflipflop ago
Sound the alerm
alliecapone ago
Hey, a message to investigative journalists...c'mon now. NOW IS THE TIME. Speak up, I know some are reading. I tell you this, I'm noting everyone and every network hiding it. I'll dump cable. The reporters that are hiding this, it will be remembered. You can go do the news in Turkey, or Iran...you know, the countries you love more than America, she and her people have HAD IT with the veil of secrecy.
Journalists afraid, WHAT KINDA AMERICANS ARE YOU???? (Sorry for the small outburst, but this has grown beyond ridiculous)
Godwillwin ago
Some more fact memes https://sli.mg/a/vgXWCn
Anonymous987654321 ago
That she is bought & paid for.
Godwillwin ago
Tweet these or tweet something factual or something that makes people look into it for themselves http://sli.mg/a/M41h9t
SlackeryTurnBull ago
I like how it showed him in the kitchen slinging hash, as if he takes his greasy apron off and then skips off to cocktail parties with the D.C. power elite. Just a simple pizza man. With no basement.
warrior_of_light ago
Just shows fox news is just one side of the same coin. They dont have the public's best interests at heart, they are just the only people not spinning the truth at the moment. Sacks of shit.
LargePepperoni ago
This is spot on. As a lefty, I always hated FOX. During this election season, FOX was the best of the MSM. They had some very good pieces about the email scandal and played it fairly neutral after the establishment republicans dropped out. They are playing the game of appeasing their fans while shilling for the establishment. I think they found a decent balance to keep it believable to the dummies.
CaroleLandis ago
I half expected Megyn to ask Alefantis if he wanted a hug. Disgusting.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
What I was thinking while watching this: if she sucks his Cheney any harder, it's gonna come off.
militant ago
Hahaha.
veritas_vincit ago
You know, I've never been 100% sure about Alefantis' involvement in Pizzagate, so I watched with an open mind; but his behavior in this interview actually doesn't make him seem more innocent to me.
What really gets me with interviews like this is how nobody acknowledges any reasonable suspicion about the evidence.
Like, sure. Maaaaayyybe someone would thoughtlessly upload a picture of a kid taped to a floor in some weird, playful context ("you had to be there"), but surely in retrospect, you can tell that this looks pretty damn sinister. There's no way you can just write it off as innocent, and dismiss concerns as total foolishness.
I'm saying, if I were innocent, the first thing I'd say is, "I can totally see why this looks weird, and now I regret posting it. The reason this happened is X, X and Y".
Come to think of it, there's been a bizarre lack of transparency from Alefantis. If I were caught up in something like this, I would be answering the big questions, fast. I wouldn't be asking Fox News to bring their cameras to my restaurant; I'd use my own damn cameras and show the Internet I have nothing to hide.
If he actually dialogued with this community, we'd still have our suspicions; but if he was innocent, he could absolutely prove that to a lot of us.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Several wagonfuls of THIS ^^^^
Godwillwin ago
Here's one of the pizza gate meme threads https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1468289
Twitter bomb her
21yearsofdigging ago
Is Alefantis the Marc Dutroux of Washington??
FuckTheseSickos ago
Who actually thought they would grill this guy on actual facts? For real? I didn't. You all are kididng yourselves if you believed that. 50 odd most powerfull person in D.C. Knows the Pedo Podestas. Brock with Media Matters and CTR. Get the fuck out. Here is a tip.... STOP TRUSTING LEGACY MEDIA FOR FUCKS SAKE. If I yell... does it make it more clear. Fuck.
21yearsofdigging ago
Alefantis needs some acting lessons, this was terrible as was Kelly. He certainly doesn't come across as very articulate or intelligent, just a run of the mill pedophile pimp for the C.I.A. And all those houses he has near to Langley? Not a smart man though, struggling to find his well rehearsed words. Hell, maybe they filmed this on Monday, and it was so bad they needed to rehearse and film again. Actually funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
Cbradio ago
Yah, he definitely RODE up in dc by sucking; he looks and sounds like the highschool kids in shop class that were older for failed for years and never graduated.
4Truth ago
start watching @ 1:05 into the video. Megyn makes a statement clarifying that he is a democrat and nothing is illegal about that, and that does not make you a pedo connected to a child sex traffic ring" LOOK AT HIS BODY. He contorts and swallows hard. GUILTY according to his tell. His body language convicts him.
Yates ago
If another copy comes out with the added 2 seconds at the end you'll see a duper's delight smile.
zzvoat ago
They're all spiritcookers, including Kelly, I'm sure. I understand that in govt., sports, media, celebrities, music, actors...everything -- in order to move up the ranks in fame and fortune, there are prices that need to be paid first. Each time, you agree to sell a little more of your soul, or you stagnate ----- or they soft kill or hard kill you. Soft kill is where they ruin your life, gang stalk you, end your career, end your relationships, take all your money, keep you mired in bogus lawsuits, make sure you can never work again, etc. Hard kill speaks for itself.
He's a great 14 min vid that will get you up to speed on this all all professions. https://youtu.be/K_5qEvos69M
dwildstar ago
She will only destroy someone that was already in huge trouble.
standalone ago
Let corrupt journalists and tv personalities lie and cover up the affair. The more do the better. They are effectively committing career suicide. When the scandal breaks, they'll will all fall together.
AdVict0riam ago
I bet they thought this would convince us to quiet down and go away.
Their constant underestimating of the American people is the exact reason why we're ultimately going to win.
lollipolli ago
did you see how disgusting the place looked? paint peeling off walls,everywhere, etc. almost like murals were recently taken off....and if he let the cameras in there, where's the shots of the horrible wall paintings by pedo-artists that I've seen in photos so often? I didn't see a single one....did anyone catch any art in cpp?
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Two things:
(a) some of those pieces were never in CPP, and (b) those which were in CPP may have been painted over by now
On (a), it's important to note that the infamous vulgar alien/masturbating man graffiti was not in CPP. It was a photo Alefantis (or someone) took in another location. It's also important to note that a lot of other art has been linked to Alefantis, but also was never in CPP. People see stuff and make assumptions, and rumors start going around.
We need to develop better ways of self-policing our info intake/outflow, to improve the signal-to-noise ratio. The Mockingbird media is dishonest and cannot perform a truth-detector function for a free people, but somehow we do need to come up with something better than random postings by anonymous people. (I'm all for random anon postings, mind you... just not without some kind of NON-totalitarian filter.)
Cbradio ago
The only psych book written about these types is PEOPLE OF THE LIE. They always lie and work in groups. Every way is to prey on anything and destroy and take. The book gives necessary insight to counter back and investigate.
Yates ago
Is this it? M. Scott Peck? If so, there's a full audiobook on YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k415Fk9Fx50
Cbradio ago
Yes, same author of Road Less Travelled. He tried to get the EVIL label.in the psych DSM manual, as a BY conscious choice mental deranged, dangerous and criminal disorder.
If you look up the history of psychology and who is on psych boards and the DSM manual board; so many of them raised u healthy families, such as one enabled his son to torture animals as a youth; that then murdered his wife. Of course, cover-up, lies and excuses and he got away with murder.
There are many surviving families that never got justice in violent crimes or cps. Would add a lot more population numbers to this cause, and inside perspectives that media never shows the public; nor the govt.
That is, alot have had their American dream.destroyed and are left broken, often intimidated, as completely failed by the govt.
So many voices unheard in America and elsewhere. Yet, ones able, have blogs, comments, court cases, complaints, foil requests to all types of govt entities,/ programs; all over the web or access Foil via mail or in person at govt programs/ entities and court/ city town halls.
It's all a rat maze, costly and time consuming as kicked around. Ethical quality is not the trait that is hired in general. Rare to find one, as systemic habit is major organizational psychology failure.
More info and resesrch by govt funded npos and universities; under the subjects of Organizational Psychology , Risk Assessment, welfare, public health law, Quality Control and more. A whole language of phrases and acronyms.
21yearsofdigging ago
Pray if there are victims out there(I am sure there are) that they have not all been killed so as to never recover their memories. I am not kidding.
reasonedandinformed ago
We need to hit people at the grassroots...guerrilla information campaign.
zzvoat ago
They're all spiritcookers, including Kelly, I'm sure. I understand that in govt., sports, media, celebrities, music, actors...everything -- in order to move up the ranks in fame and fortune, there are prices that need to be paid first. Each time, you agree to sell a little more of your soul, or you stagnate ----- or they soft kill or hard kill you. Soft kill is where they ruin your life, gang stalk you, end your career, end your relationships, take all your money, keep you mired in bogus lawsuits, make sure you can never work again, etc. Hard kill speaks for itself.
smudgepotforever ago
James Alefantis comes off like so many other insider elite. Fake, arrogant, and weird. Almost polished, but I've seen it too many times and recognize it for what it is. Same delivery as so many other phony pundits who come on to dis-inform.
smudgepotforever ago
She kept repeating DC Police confirmed it is fake. Really? Are they anything like the Suffolk police?Lawyer claims link between ex-NY police chief and unsolved Long Island murders http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/12/15/lawyer-claims-link-between-ex-ny-police-chief-and-unsolved-long-island-murders.html
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Several DC policemen in here: https://medium.com/@LoriHandrahan2/when-law-enforcement-is-the-perpetrator-ca369079d05a#.2iui21y3o
Using them as a trustworthy authority was one more major "tell". We cannot blindly rely on police. Too many of them are compromised. Also, if MK really thought the DC police did such a good job of getting to the truth, where is their report explaining all of this? She had a golden opportunity to pass along good info, but chose not to. One must ask WHY.
reasonedandinformed ago
We do not even know from the pics who Caris James is, who the parents are. It is one of the major questions to ask: Where is #CarisJames. We should post this everywhere:
#SaveTheKids #WhereIsCarisJames https://voat.co/v/humanrights/1490856
Cbradio ago
Yes..where are parents and evidence the baby even alive,? I don't care what Aleftitus said, child safety is not about the adult being wined and dined, but the CHILD's well-being.
Legally, it is a cps case, since it's been reported many times. It does not matter if cps is violating law and not investigating each report. Legal fact, since reported, is a cps case. Media freaking knows the law, but expect public to NOT know or question the glaring fact that cps has not confirmed that any childrenposted are alive and safe.
It's OK to label a baby Hotard on public that for rest of life is bullied? ( If alive) A rated xxx demeaning name on infant is OK with these folks!!!!!
Even a child at school calling another child, Hotard would be in trouble? Are we supposed to be treated THIS stupid by the media, and called false as they are as false and legal fraud in all of this?
Orange_Circle ago
Her parents moved very far away from Alefantis. They live in the Pacific Northwest now.
reasonedandinformed ago
Is this confirmed? It was a theory that the kid was Cory Woolman's, but I never saw proof (just the idea).
Orange_Circle ago
I can't remember where I read it, but someone looked up her linkedin and they have relocated a state in the Pacific Northwest. I know the state and city but I don't want to say it because I think they were innocent in all this.
reasonedandinformed ago
I am not so sure if innocent. I followed their trail a bit, and I think it was Portland. If I recall, she seemed to connect to a shady restaurant/bar that had similar themes and connections, with more heavy pedo symbology. I dug a bit and saw the same kinds of things and then got back to the east coast. They also had some incriminating participation in the instagrams. I still don't know how we know #CarisJames referenced their child...and if so, if their child is still around and with them.
redstarkachina ago
at 3:15 he admits that its true hes a pedophile... watch the exchange starting around 3:08
Atlantean120 ago
We all need to downvote and comment on the video!
djklbd ago
Is this up on youtube? When can I watch this? Link?
ZalesMcMuffin ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1492135/7246410
Johnny3names ago
The important part of that interview was that he didn't come off remotely shook up by the incident, he could have been reading a script about hand soap.
If I ever thought there could be a chance it wasn't a false flag I don't now, if somebody ever really pulled a gun on that dude he'd not only shit his pants but be covered in sweat anytime he thought about it.
postfascion ago
Not sure that'll work bro, the definition of "mainstream" is pretty fucking broad.
Galact1c ago
His guilt is tangible. Honestly this interview makes him look pretty bad to law enforcement, let alone parents who have learned how to tell when their being lied to because lol kids.
hunk_quark ago
Here's the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wgVScnRfBY Skimpily dressed skank has a lot of sympathy for fellow sexual deviants.
Forgetmenot ago
Congratulations everyone my biggest take away from watching this is they are worried and doing damage control! This is getting under their skin they are very uncomfortable and have a lot to hide.
im_at_a_desk ago
3:09
Megyn: "Dc police are saying this is fake, FAKE!"
Alefantis: "thank you, it's true"
lollll
quantokitty ago
They're two lying sacks of shit.
So now we know (as if we didn't before), that she and FOX are in on the cover up. I think the FOX execs and faux journalists should not be overlooked to see what alliances caused what decisions to be made.
Blowitwideopen ago
Notice no artwork on walls of restaurant
Forgetmenot ago
Remember when trump said she was obsessed with sex? I wonder why she protects pedofiles? What's in her closet?
Pisstubes0351 ago
Downvote the shit outta that.
atheist4thecause ago
That's okay. They are forced to start taking on interviews. This is a sign that we matter. They tried to ignore us. They can't anymore. So now they are attacking us. All this will do is get #PizzaGate more publicity, and when people really learn about the facts, they'll trust the mainstream media even less. I expected this type of interview 100%, and it makes me wonder why the Fox News decision makers are trying to cover this up. I think #PizzaGate needs to do a better job of finding the Republicans that are likely involved in this as well.
reasonedandinformed ago
I think McConnell is high on the list. Behavior it the tell.
alliecapone ago
He's got "the look" if anything else. And while I ADORE Kentucky, he's not indicative of the folks I had pleasure to meet. He looks like someone most would stay away from. Probably grew up hearing "That boy, he just aint right yall" He looks like the holler pedo.
ArthurEdens ago
I bet Alefantis is celebrating with a kid right now.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
BULLET WENT STRAIGHT INTO THE COMPUTER SYSTEM! https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1492143#submissionTop
Kiwi_Slave ago
They need better scriptwriters, pathetic
Forgetmenot ago
The MSM will NEVER support this investigation. If victims come forward they will attack and discredit the victims just like the franklin cover up. Stop waiting for the media to acknowledge this it will never happen.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
It's up to the new mainstream from here on.
Forgetmenot ago
Absolutely! The MSM are useless and clearly have an ulterior motive.
50hurtz ago
The coverup continues...
GeorgeHodelDidit ago
Only thing I can think of is Fox is a fake news channel.......like the fake Republican Party.......they just give us the illusion of being more right wing. Because its easy to give us a little conservative talk but when it comes down to really important stuff....they just get in line and tell the lies. We need some powerful true conservative to start a fucking national news channel And not a Jew.......
Orange_Circle ago
The best thing to do is get all the images Alefantis posted and get them re-posted to as many places as possible.
postfascion ago
And write links etc on money.
Orange_Circle ago
Great idea, instead of giving gift cards for Christmas, give cash with #Pizzagate #Voat on it.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
and http://pizzagate.wiki too
qwerty33 ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-5YUmmcj- link to interview
SaneGoatiSwear ago
you mean
goddamn bot, th. this sub is filled with them. i'd say 400-500 at least.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
I'm dissapointed at the lack of profanity on your comment, are you getting enough rest?
Jokes aside, this whole thing is spiralling faster than a meth addict on a merry-go-round, the amount of push back from key sectors like the media is very telling
The masses are beginning to suspect and it scares them
bopper ago
Exactly.
justiceforever ago
ALREADY ON YOUTUBE
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6wgVScnRfBY
We need to brigade the shit out of the internet, patriots! (Edit: in a calm, rational way)
AJ-Styles ago
Jesus fuckin Christ. At the end she goes "it's FAKE. FAKE" looking directly into the TV Screen.
alliecapone ago
Oh dear Lord, anyone watch body language and can tell when people lie? Whenever he looks up...that indicates he's lying. He is "searching" for what to say. He blinks a lot. However, he's a nutcase, because I can see he believes what he says as well. He's lying about the gun...it wasn't an assault rifle.
Watch how he looks to the side too, also an indication he's lying. I've studied this quite a bit, detectives, profilers...the information I'm talking about all comes from their studies. He's lying, LIARS, Thieves and people hurting defenseless people are scum. He is SCUM. This makes the drive even harder, my resolve is stronger. Thanks for posting that youtube vid..that small interview tells me plenty about this man.
Thakiddds ago
We should have a body language person investigate
alliecapone ago
After speaking to a couple county officers, they've told me that any detective will tell you that if he were pressed, he'd break like a dam. They're trained to see those tell tale signs of lies too, in cases of domestic violence it became imperative to learn body language cues. One I'll quote "He is lying like a rug!" His segment was short, but not short enough to hide any of those indicators. Those are the easy ones to detect.
scared_yung_father ago
It's sort of like he has a smirk on his face the whole time and his Instagram is creepy. Megyn Kelly is fake news.
FuckTheseSickos ago
Need to thumbsdown once it hits on the actual FOX youtube channel. Do not let this shit get posted without the true facts. Fuck Alefantis and Megyn Kelly. Alex Jones? So odd they are pinning it on him.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
I feel like he's playing an intentional role, here. He is an actor. His role could be the underdog Internet hero, getting everyone to rally around him as the free speech martyr-in-the-making, as Alefantis is the establishment untouchable golden boy with the smirk.
I could write this one.
Thakiddds ago
Let her know how you feel on her twitter post about it
FuckTheseSickos ago
Oh... I did. 3 in total. Probably do a 4th about her sensationalist bull shit headline. https://twitter.com/megynkelly/status/809586209513213952
RedGreenAlliance ago
They are setting the precedent that his news is dangerous, so if they take him off the air, they can go after all the non-Globalist NeoLiberal press.
Revealed in InfoWars yesterday; a secret court case is being prepared blaming InfoWars for "inciting insurrection". Whether they win or lose he case while in court they'll try to have InfoWars pulled from the airways until the court case is heard
FuckTheseSickos ago
Not surprised. What they don't get is that we... US... won't be cucked. Keep your shit up bro. Just retweeted your shit and added her in. Fuck her bro.
PM_ME_UR_LOVE ago
I love how every MSM "debunk" conveniently leaves out 99% of the reason why people are looking into him in the first place. If he and his buddies didn't go out of their way to stick pedophilic and disturbing imagery in every place they possibly could, they wouldn't have much to worry about.
Cbradio ago
Yah, we are the bullies as they label and support an adult, calling a beautiful baby, HOTARD on the public web for life. ( If alive)
poly ago
My twitter account just got locked out for posting about pizzagate. Ill get screenshots later to show exactly which tweets were in violation
reasonedandinformed ago
Please use this strategy to go around the censorship:
#SaveTheKids This is not political but about abuse of children by the powerful. FInd out more here: https://voat.co/v/humanrights/1490856
That link is a bridge on another platform on VOAT to get to pizzagate without mentioning pizzagate at all.
ENTPenis ago
Gee I wonder who owns the Network she works for.
AlphaOmega ago
It is intersting to see how the MSM is framing it. I know Pizzagate well, I've seen the evidence. I still can't say I'm certain one way or the other about anyhing.
What I can say, though, is that the media is absolutely lying about what's been uncovered. They are absolutely, unequivocally, misrepresenting us. They build up these colorful straw man then just set them on fire and piss all over us and make us seem like we're insane.
Trouble is, I know I'm not crazy. I'm just a normal, very well educated dude with a family.
Watching the MSM behave this way,, more than anything else I've seen, is the scariest thing about Pizzagate so far....and THAT is saying something.
DeSales ago
If CNN is still trying to get her she might already be playing on their side.
lollipolli ago
why would they do that?
tstr ago
The MSM carries water for these disgusting people. Just like they defended Clinton and did nothing but attack Trump the entire campaign (not making this political that is just an example)show how partisan they are and where their allegiances are.
I am glad more are starting to see how the MSM is ANYTHING but journalism.
MWcrazyhorse ago
CIA controls the msm (see operation Mockingbird), it is also alleged to be involved in child trafficking. Two+x=Four?
BlackSwordsman ago
Seconded. Well educated person, here, with a degree or two and loving family... Something is up. The best way I can articulate it is... okay... maybe somehow all of this is a coincidence. Fine. But we are NOT crazy for seeing some patterns. They've been uncovering SO many people with famous and public lives that have been doing this for YEARS. It's like a new huge pedo ring every day. How do people not even care if this is a possibility? That, I think, disturbs me the most...
FuckTheseSickos ago
Interview posted on FOX. Good thumbs down ratio right now. Keep it up and comment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXApkzwKIh8 Make sure people see this one and not the ripped versions on rando channels.
LostandFound ago
Done and done make this it's own post, bollox to that Downvoats for this crap
RedGreenAlliance ago
Your observations are absolutely spot on and irritate exactly what I am thinking.
The media and their OTT defence of PizzaGate is extremely bizarre and proves we are onto something very big. Certainly much bigger than just CPP
Several bloggers have reported massive DDOS attacks, hack attempts, threats, etc. Where's all the money coming from for such a concerted online attack on PG investigators???? They'd never do this about any other subject except 9/11.
Therein lies your answer.
Atatarkus ago
Couldnt agree more im in the same boat, university educated, gamefully employed not some paranoid loner. For a long time ive been aware that a small group of self intetested people have been shaping the world socially and economicallly to suit their agendas but i never subscribed to the idea of an organised new world order i always thought that was a bit paranoid and that if it seemed like it was the case it was probably because a lot of the time elite interests overlap.
After seeing this im not so sure. Ive been keeping my eye on this for over a month now and the actions of the media coupled with the massive amount of connections investigated between the elites and the clintons have made this all seem like im watching the nwo operate in real time. Symbols disappearing from websites, websites taken down, twitter censored, facebook censored, reddit censored etc. its not just mainstream news that are whitewashing this.
Its enough to give you nightmares
reasonedandinformed ago
Ha. We are all in this together, so it sometimes help to laugh...often at ourselves. We need to do an all-out outreach effort to bring more people into the fold. I launched a Twitter campaign yesterday, new to me as I had not tweeted in over four years, and it seemed to be very successful. I did what I could as I have almost no following (hitting tending posts and tags, hitting some key media accounts, including Megyn Kelly due to the interview, etc.). I could see the response. It drove traffic and signups here last night and this morning...but it was limited since my Twitter skills are limited, I am one person, and I am not in the Twitterverse. We need to really explode this. The idea is simple. Just go on all platforms (Twitter, FB, YouTube comments, anywhere you can post) and post this (or something similar; the key is the #SaveTheKids hashtag and link to VOAT, dodging the use of the censored "pizzagate" verbiage):
#SaveTheKids Please take the time to learn of the pedo elite and help: https://voat.co/v/humanrights/1490856 #RealNews
Blacksmith21 ago
"Gainfully" not "gamefully" ; )
unfuckitup ago
I think Atatarkus was being ironic when he said 'gamefully' employed.
Atatarkus ago
Thanks for the correction i hope the mistake didnt make the post a damp squid (i know its squib in case u didnt get the reference)
Blacksmith21 ago
The problem is when arguing with the blue pilled, is that you can spit out 10 document facts in an argument, and 1 slightly off detail, and the whole narrative will shift to the minor inaccuracy.
Atatarkus ago
Youre right and its much nicer to be corrected anonymously online than in a room full of people so thanks again.
On that point though isnt it a blessing that james alefantis is such a fucking clown that he decided to post those creepy pictures. Its hard for people to argue with you when you're holding a picture of a toddler taped to table in their face.
Blacksmith21 ago
LOL....public shaming is my hallmark ; ) No offense meant.
I'll be honest, the photo of the little girl taped to the table would never have turned my head, if it weren't for the other IG pics. In fact, most of them, as stand alone, wouldn't be all that bad. Or all that bad without the comments. Context is everything.
Atatarkus ago
None taken. Again youre right on its on own it wouldnt be that bad but there is plenty of context and ive found when atop my soapbox that people are most responsive to that picture in particular so i tend to use that as one of my go to arguments. My redpilling attempts go as follows: 1. Brief explanation of how pizzagate started 2. Show alefantis IG pics (emphasis on aforementioned) 3. Show the wikileaks email about the 3 kids in the pool. 4. (And most importantly because it shows confidence and certainty ) urge the person to read about it for themselves. Works a treat!
Blacksmith21 ago
For me, it was the Podesta/McCann e-fits that sealed the deal.
ALDO_NOVA ago
best to honeypot the defenders this way - the list is gettting quite long
Atlantean120 ago
at least everyone who used to trust Fox will never do so again. we are in this together, bi-partisan, against the powers that be on both sides.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
The media is complicit in this because "they" are literally balls deep in the thousands of girls and boys that go missing every month.
Of course they are going to smother, cover, deny and hide anything that points to the truth.
New_years_day ago
And this is why this shit aint working anymore, some of us are not questionable crazies, we are normal people and this shit aint right.
JUNOAK ago
I wish more people on here would speak like this. There is a reason that Alefantis and everyone being accused in this thing are getting death threats every day and it is because of the irresponsible way people are throwing around the pedophilia accusation. Did you hear that audio of David Brock tearing up? There wasn't much sympathy for him on here and the way people are talking about alefantis in this and other threads is not living up to the pizzagate mantra that you're simply asking for there to be an investigation. The pedophilia claim is thrown around wildly with no care for the weight of the accusation despite professing continuously to care about it deeply. Pizzagate is a witch hunt don't be part of the problem.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Congrats! You just earned my very first downvoat ever.
There's a kernel of truth in what you said: as always, caution is advised in forming conclusions, and any conclusion not directly resting on absolutely incontrovertible evidence should be revisited whenever a new idea is raised. But your closing sentence went too far.
justforthissubverse ago
I know. It fucking infuriates me. I'm the same as you.
BigBrownBeaver ago
For me that's been the biggest tell there is something to this story. I honestly think this will be the end of msm as we know it.
reasonedandinformed ago
The best evidence of the truth is behavior. Behavior is THE TELL when truth is in question. When you see someone like Megyn Kelly, who is a very capable interviewer, conduct that kind of soft-pedal interview about such a serious matter, that says a lot. When you see the media do a full-court press against a story involving hurting kids, actively misrepresenting what pizzagate is about and our findings, that is telling you where their interests lie. It reinforces the actual truth that this pedo thing involves people in high power and the media itself. When you witness first hand a false flag event, something you have heard about and always dismissed, involving a gunman...after you have seen them move the cameras pointing at CPP just prior to the event and you see them post the actual news stories online before the event has started, all of which is documented, any doubt is removed. When you observe CTR shills hitting this site hard, even downvoting an effort to spread the hashtag #SaveTheKids, you know they want this to remain hidden. I am well-educated and not a conspiracy person, but a friend asked me to look into this. If you investigate, what you find is horrible and incredibly hard to swallow. The evidence is broad and deep. And the behavior of those in the middle of all of this is some of the strongest proof if you are having trouble accepting the massive amount of evidence that we have found. This is going on...at the highest levels of society and government, throughout the world.
ravensedgesom ago
Clearly dont want to let lid blow off on this because of its massive ramifications although anyone who has truly researched this matter realizes that this goes much deeper than alefantis' CPP or the podestas. This could lead to the outing and ultimately the undoing of a malignant blight on many of those affected directly or indirectly by such needless cruelties. This needs to fully understood by many citizen journalist in order that our children can be safe from these practices, and that this will not be tolerated to continue.
Pizzagatethroaway499 ago
I wish I could upvote this 1000 times!
RedGreenAlliance ago
Great comment. The term conspiracy theorist never had a negative connotation (it is a neutral descriptive). But the CIA weaponised it in 1967 - proven by documents released under FOIA - to attack and silence anyone who questioned JFKs death. The idea is to create a culture where we always believe that every negative outcome is either COINCIDENCE or INCOMPETENCE and never entertain a notion that it is CONSPIRACY. In fact they want to create an environment where questioning the official version of any event is 'tinfoil hat', and this is now a reflex response to any suggestion that powerful people have committing crimes. I wrote about it on my blog
https://redgreenalliance.com/2016/03/30/conspiracy-theorist-just-another-pc-thoughtcrime-label/
Votescam ago
See: Operation Mockingbird — scroll down to “History” — which was being written two years before the end of WWII. See: Operation Paperclip — Wiki’s figures are low — at the minimum 64,000+ which included families but more likely 200,000 according to Kay Griggs/YouTube. See: Operation Gladio — US program to keep right wing governments in place in the countries over which they had control after WWII — Germany, Japan, Italy. In Italy, US actually resurrected the Mafia in order to ensure the plan would be carried out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip
New_years_day ago
Couldn't have said it better myself!
bedazzledgypsy ago
Choosing to use the instagram pic of the kid, but neglecting to bring up the sick pictures that he had was inexcusable.
wizlord ago
Also they censored the comments. They will tell you it was to "protect" the identity of blah blah blah. Fuck that! Show the damn comments! Did you read them miss Kelly?
Votescam ago
Whatever it was they're trying to omit, we need to keep harder after --
This isn't just DC, Virginia -- this is national and this is international.
This is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ and the framing of politicians to blackmail them.
This is purposeful destruction of children for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
VieBleu ago
And a TOTAL co-opting of our political system, tax system, everything!
ALDO_NOVA ago
plus 90% of the footage was just repeating the gunman/police arrest - they didnt show or dicuss any emails and only one instagram. was pathetic and soft
bedazzledgypsy ago
Jack Posobiec is on Twitter saying that they used his pic as the gunman!
Godwillwin ago
AMEN!
21yearsofdigging ago
Why she so 'nice'? No real questions at all? Shameful. I have seen her act like a pretty pit-bull on other issues but here, she acts (badly I might add) like Jimmy's protective sister or faghag.
AndoMc87 ago
Controlled opposition
Headstart ago
Fox News's second largest voting shareholder is Saudi royal Al Waleed bin Talal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal
As to Megan Kelly herself... believe me, she didn't get where she is by doing what's right. She got there by doing as SHE IS TOLD.
jedininja ago
I don't even know why she's still on the air. Nothing but an attention whore shit talking Trump on the one TV news channel I think has a shred of decency. Probably can't fire her at this point in fear of it being labelled a sexist move.
Headstart ago
There have been multiple articles about FoxNews ditching her soon; she most likely will go to CNN.
reasonedandinformed ago
She is compromised.
reasonedandinformed ago
She was over at "Politics & Prose" the other day...which I believe is connected in some way. She rubs elbows with the same people.
VieBleu ago
really? Do we know this from some kind of report, or was she just hobnobbing? She doesn't live in DC pretty sure. BTW I put #savethekids on the lurker post. Hope you see some response.
FoxMcCloud11 ago
Along with the irresponsible, Russian hacking propaganda.. "Putin did it!", "We will retaliate!" - its all a bunch of bullshit and they are doing nothing but planting the seeds to cover up the "big one" that could be released. Setting the stage if you will.. fuck everyone involved. I hope someone out there with intimate knowledge steps up and does the right thing; despite the massive risk. Time for real Martyrs.
DeSales ago
The ironic thing is they are coming up with their own 'conspiracy theories' re. russia
bopper ago
Exactly. It's time.
qwerty33 ago
just relax its actually normal, what other response did you want to receive when we just busted the entire goverment .
jedininja ago
Right they invented "fake news" in an attempt to cover up the whole thing. Ain't none of them gonna actually say anything about it on the air. This is the stuff people die over. It seems even Alex Jones is too scared to take it on, now.
qwerty33 ago
you have to try and imagine the threats he has received over the years he now knows where the line is with them.
jedininja ago
No doubt. I admire the man for everything he does expose, but you are right. He has to put his life and family's lives first.
AlphaOmega ago
That's fair enough. Just another theory though, until someone important takes up the cause.
MischiefMaker ago
The part that made me maddest was when they blatantly said CPP doesn't have a basement, ignoring the interview in which Alefantis said they did. Wtf this is ridiculous
smudgepotforever ago
And ignoring the fact that next door his other place (Buck's) does have a basement ....soooo.
centipedecentral ago
Man, I have never seen such softball questions ever. I just don't know a solution for this unless VIDEOS of the act comes out or children involved are found and points them out. That's what needs to happen. I agree with all the investigation stuff but reality is we need a smoking gun. PERIOD
bopper ago
Trump.
Cantilever ago
Less caps, please.
justforthissubverse ago
What a disgrace
bopper ago
Yeah exactly.
AJ-Styles ago
How bad was it? Should I look it up or save the disgust and assume not a single key piece of evidence was mentioned?
B_dog ago
Most interesting she showed the empty room but blurred out "killroom" and "murder" in the comments. So covering up the critical inculpatory facts was actually literally done and visible on the screen.
You should watch it. She did mention the evidence if only briefly and with intent to mislead her audience.
AJ-Styles ago
Youve gotta be fucking shittin me
bopper ago
Bad bad.
Yuser_Manuel ago
stupid. she conducts awful interviews.
bopper ago
Unbelievable act.
Kiwi_Slave ago
Her whole life is an act, impersonating a normal human being!
bopper ago
Good one.
bopper ago
I'm a guy, I don't find her attractive, people should watch her Howard Stern piece, she's a hypocrite and dresses like a call girl.
Galact1c ago
He is a horrible liar. Anyone with any training on how to read a person for lies can tell he was bullshitting.
alliecapone ago
I should be reading before I post, you noted it as well. No wonder his segment was so short. Nobody seemed to coach him on it, and boy am I glad. We aren't a nation of dolts...they gave us Internet and Discovery ID, along with TONS of documentaries about profilers. Candice DeLong is a favorite of mine and some more I can't think of because the cover up is just beyond disgusting. I have no words...none.
bopper ago
Completely scripted. She's sickening.
Sandy008 ago
Wow, it just goes to show that Alefantis is the 49th most powerful person in DC for a reason. He has the entire MSM doing his bidding. Why would this guy have so much power? That's the most elusive aspect of this whole investigation.
VieBleu ago
this is a really smart comment. Well said.
Wolftrail7272 ago
CIA MKUltra sexual blackmail. Jesus, ehat did I just write? Never thought I would have to consider that as a sentence I would need to say.
trevor_reznik ago
"He has the entire MSM doing his bidding."
Not only that, but even alex jones has been saying for a while that comet ping pong and alefantis are a diversion from the real scandal, and they haven't been covering pizzagate for weeks now. trump fired the guy from his transition team who tweeted on pizzagate. the establishment (democrats, republicans and media) will never cover pizzagate.
Anonymous987654321 ago
For real, getting interviews and articles written in his defense.
reasonedandinformed ago
The articles defend him but are really being pushed to defend those above. This goes to the highest levels which is why they are scrambling so much and fighting so hard to block the general public from seeing this news.
JUNOAK ago
YOU ALL ARE IN THE EXTREME MINORITY. I will never be able to convince you all but the reason there is no real investigative journalism into this is because everyone in journalism and the police have looked at the evidence and seen nothing but completely normal activity. Remember this is a bubble where you almost always hear people who agree with you but almost everyone else sees nothing and it's not a coverup.
SpikyAube ago
Being in the minority doesn't mean we are wrong. The top 1% smartest most knowledgeable humans are in the minority, they still know more than everyone else. And they're also the ones investigating this. :-)
I think you need to actually look at some of what has been uncovered, maybe start with the sticky. Compare what this investigation is looking into with the blatant lies the media have been telling about it. Just that alone should tell you something is very wrong going on here.
I know you don't want to believe it, because it's so horrible, but try and be honest with yourself and ask yourself if you want to be on the side of protecting children and your fellow humans, or on the side of hideous mentally deformed monsters who would rape, torture and murder you and everyone you love just for fun if they knew they could get away with it?
reasonedandinformed ago
OK. So you are skeptical...or a CTR shill. Since you believe so much in rational analysis, are you willing to go through a Q&A where I ask you specific questions about actual findings, and you can explain them? The media has made no effort to debunk as they have not even looked at the facts.
JUNOAK ago
Read through my comment history and especially the last conversation I had with nnfx. If you want to ask me questions go ahead, but I can only explain why most people do not believe conspiracy theories like this, I sum it up in some of my comments.
NotAnIdiot ago
Wow. If you're going to shill, try harder.
Anonymous987654321 ago
Wish I could downvote JUNOAK.
Makes me want to dig harder.
alliecapone ago
Can't wait til I can down voat as well, I'm almost there. Here's an upvoat for you, hope it helps out.
NotAnIdiot ago
I just got you 1/100th of the way there.
Godwillwin ago
I downed him.
common_sense ago
It's always the new accounts.
SIash ago
They just really like his pizza, it's unlike any pizza they have ever had. Extra cheese. Remember last time the entire international media machine religiously defended a small food establishment? Me neither.
thezodiac ago
It's the best PIZZA in town, they "fuckin" love his pizzas.
NoBS ago
Think Alefantis is important because he has dirt on not only elected officials, but every dirty cop with a vise.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
"vice"
...unless you're suggesting we should start checking people's workshops... which, actually............
Forgetmenot ago
Excellent question!
Orange_Circle ago
He's f-buddies with David Brock (past) and Tony Podesta (present.)
Grandmas_ChewToy ago
Funny how it took them 4 fucking days huh?
VieBleu ago
Took time and arguments to figure out which picture they could explain away the best, Soros was arguing for the yellow beads "chickenlover" to the end.
Headstart ago
The script had to be approved by Soros and other higher ups. These things take time to arrange, dontchaknow.
Grandmas_ChewToy ago
Hotard. Chickenlover. Killroom....Fuck the MSM they have betrayed their very purpose.
VieBleu ago
You can't blame them - Jimmy Comet pizza guy is the 49th most powerful man in Washington and when he needs a national platform the press grovels at his feet!
Cbradio ago
Yep. Any not worried of those children and babies in the pictures has no ethics. Movies and such are rated for R and x rated for a reason. Twitter is a public site and on public settings; they posted all you me ruined and more that fully show; they are not safe/ healthy for children to be around. Clearly, sell pizza and any pedo will be called safe. How much research shows that pedo and rapists are often ones that know a child?
As cps is the state fed agency that must investigate all cases reported; cps is never mentioned by the media. No compassion or concern that child safety is a pertinent Issue. ( In even general terms).
Who posts back to media with cps law, the Obama bill allowing media propaganda, child psychology for EVEN in cps court cases; these are all required elements of a legal case.
I'm not sure why more are not pointing out cps failure to investigate, mandate report failures, the children in pics, child psychology, and cps cases that destroyed citizens as comparative analysis are not being used to expose media elite as false and public pressure those kids/ infants are found.
Yah, cps sucks, but that's not my point; the failure of the laws being used that ARE CERTAINLY, state and federal severe violations by cps and all whose jobs do require mandate reporting to cps.
Or the fact, that cps is refusing to now take reports in many calls and intimidating to police; WHEN out of jurisdiction calls to report crimes cannot be done to dc cops, only cps.
Knowing the laws, and anything not adhering is WHAT IS FALSE, and what even stands in a law abiding court room.
It is common knowledge that tunnels run under dc, just like NYC. It is clear as day he is having major construction and not have a permit in a low level. It is clear as day, gay or not that they have severe sex addict, impulse control Issues that are pervasive, no boundaries and not family oriented but xxx rated.
It's clear as day that many of them have high risk of harboring or history of venereal disease. ( Kind of a joke) but, I would starve then ever eat any food they touched.
It is clear as day that ones are so die hard for this pizza joint that this guy can do anything, and they would be oddly loyal.
Some even take pics by comet with little kids and say they stand with comet. Sorry, that is not the kids voices, but as usual adults first, not children.
On Facebook, the GoFundMe is posted by ones appearing against pedo; but ALOT are sexual oriented , actors in horror shows, on gay mags. Probable that b list actors are now hired.
Aside, one of Soros own psychological sites, is called some conspiracy thing. His England psychology organizations do state the psych social economic studies to impact the populace. Yet, concerned citizens of kids are the false news?
The shooter, sure has a very depressed, sex orientation brother.
It's at the point that ssexual printed communities need to stand up and say they do not support any that pedo.or satanic. It's giving them a bad name. Not all are like that, and stay away from bar scenes and such that are creepy and demand attention on genitals; which is really low self esteem. OK, you like same gender, doesn't need to be an obsession daily for whole world to be brought into your personal biz and boundaries. While world does not want to see your crotch..
And, any regular citizen caught on video sext texting, jacking off like Weiner would be having cps at their door. Canon now, read up on cps cases of intrusion, for absolutely nothing. Besides the inappropriate sexual, the child could have wandered off and been injured many times. That is also negligence.
Huma had enough money to hire a babysitter, or choose not to go to her next party hardy event. She dresses up so much, yet her kid looks like he just got out of bed. Looks like he is always just tagging along like extra baggage.
VieBleu ago
I enjoyed your perspective - unleash it!
Cbradio ago
Thanks. Appreciate your recognition of defiance)))) Be thrilling to finally Trump the unwanted chess games of tyrannical hells..)) back in a corner and metaphorically nonviolence, chop off the legs and expose all the constructive frauds in a qualitative leap.
But hey, if any evils reading this, I'm just practicing art, all the world is a stage; and ya ain't got crap to say if you regurgitate, way overdone Satan. Dime a dozen, mofos.
And I'll never be perfect pedestal.like a Comet, for too perfect always is a hiding something, bad bad bad.
Lots of strategies, but handing them out in public is dumb. But I highly recommend the movie, Eddy Murphy Running for President. Comedy is so fun, when intent is pure.
Smithsonian 2014 article, on how human meat is a delicacy by a biologist now posing as a wildlife animal advocate.
www.ourpassaic.org an insight on the shady of ex EPA director, Lisa Jackson. A real donkey pony ribbon show gal of masks and role play.
The poor population was not informed nor given evacuation options when they did the FAILED dredging up of most toxic area in USa, Passaic River. Diamond Alkali site, army corps engineer site of manufactured agent Orange. Nitro, WV got a class action. Newark never did. Wilson elementary school evacuated when DEP whistleblower blew.
A little aside, but gives context and texture to potential players and who they played with.
Grandmas_ChewToy ago
Yup. And Bill Clinton incentivized cps giving them bonuses for taking children out of their homes and placing them in foster care. This whole cps system needs to burn.
Cbradio ago
Yes, and prior with Bush , etc, etc. All over the web are victim families, and many more unheard that do not have tech access as lives destroyed.
The web, also has the Connecticut dad's that had more money and research skills that took.on cps in divorce/ custody proceedings. No matter how long they ran the rat maze, no justice, added state and federal violations, costs, burden, impacts.
These dad's went from financial security to losing their homes and financial resources, and never got their children back.
Canada, England, etc, same scenarios l;just different names and acronyms of programs and their own dead end, systemic rat maze.
Dr. Phil has the CA, CPS director on his show slot. I think pressure on those two is warranted; for they both go out of their way to state how cps adhered to law and protects children. Or, are the drug addicted teens on the shows, also routed to dangers??? Makes me wonder.
Everyday that cps in DC fails to.invesigate reports on each child/ baby in photos, reported IS additional felony violations that are included in child court cases if ever gets investigated.
Not suprised at all that cps in DC is not adhering to law and investigating the welfare. Yet, every inform recorded call to cps recorded; is evidence of failure to adhere to their legal obligations to welfare check.
That's evidence.
Also, some who call are being refused to report, given a hard time with mind games, saying theyust know names of the children, told to call cops or be transferred to the cops. That is all illegal , also, and is evidence. Who is having the call staff, violate? They also have to allow anonymous calls and give their two digit Id number.
I'm not suprised that call staff would violate and be douche bags, for any call to any govt Corp program or entity is always a bitchslap of citizen exclusion; how dare you expect us to be public servants on your tax dollars and adhere to our job requirements, state fed law, govt Corp contract Integrity Reports that each have to be trained and sign the job contract.
It would be a endless YouTube show of calls to govt entities, for its systemic habit to violate all, browbeat citizen/ beneficiary, rat maze, inaccurate documentation, destroy / alter.
Govt unions didn't endorse Hillary for no reason. I called Obama Whitehouse slot, it was the same and quite snarky.
And if ones calling cps are not in the DC jurisdiction, DC cops do not take case calls from ones out of jurisdiction. Ones have to report to cops in their jurisdiction.
I posted previously, a website of a very long list of court, cps, satanic ritual crimes that demonstrate that govt, courts, judges, drs, social workers and more are quite aware of the pervasive satanic crimes for decades. They also, all profit from cps cases.
I'm curious to who are the Fosters in the DC vicinity area that have a roach motel.of Fosters, abuse to.kids but not busted or on time to.save the kid. There are some good Fosters, but def ones that profit on system and abuse and kill kids that cps fails to protect.
I also, recommend, reviewing the Justin Peltier case, the black.mom that refused to give her young girl the psychotropics, and the parents who let their two kids walk alone to the park.
The comparative contrast of how regular citizens have been destroyed by cps that did no harm, vs the many times that cps failed to.protect kids from obvious horrid abuse that died or were severely injured from abuses, vs the absent in adhering to state/ fed CPS law in doing welfare checks on all the kids/ infants that the Alefontitus chose as an adult to post demeaningly on the public web.
Quite, a contrast of treatment. And as Alefontitus initiated the series of events and IS fully accountable for posting those babies and allowing a family advertised pizza place be so queer kill Bill; quite odd that cps staff, top to bottom are bolding not adhering to law and welfare checking.
Also, any cps workers in nation, teachers, social workers, psychs, drs, attorneys and more that witness those photos and do not Mandate Report as their state or fed license requires; is also violating the law of Mandate Report. They are to fill out a specific form.
This is all common knowledge in these fields and others. All I mentioned is easy to find these legal requirements on the web.
So, the false news is also all of their fraud violations vs adhere parallel to the law. Quite bold, their expected impunity to violate. Hence, more violations documented on tape, more solid the case for the kids.
Getting animal advocates involved would be smart;for they really unite and get angry when hear of animal abuse. Satanic abuse will piss them off, and add a tidal wave to this case.
Hope no typos, ..
Godwillwin ago
I can't watch and I will never watch Megan again. There needs to be an investigation. Period.
CaroleLandis ago
Only time I've ever watched Megyn Kelly really prior to this was when she did the post-sexual abuse revelation interviews of the Duggars. Those were very underwhelming as well. Perhaps not a coincidence.
Godwillwin ago
Good point.
Since October, I've been watching her, oreilly and hannity at least twice a week. She would get under my skin with some anti trump pro Hillary stuff, and her low cut dresses annoyed me. Cocktail party or a date? sure. A Presidential debate and to report the nightly news? not so much.
Anyway, I was still able to respect her opinion while many other trumpkins could not. But now, nope. I've been wanting to watch tucker Carlson anyway. I'll start dvring him instead.
Headstart ago
Everybody knows Megan got her job playing the sleeping game to the top.
save_thechildren ago
Refuse to watch her anymore....again.
pizzaequalspedo ago
I boycotted her a while back when she jumped on the anti-Trump bandwagon with 98% of the rest of the media. Fortunately, her days are numbered there and her ratings have been dropping like a rock.
Kiwi_Slave ago
Puts a whole different perspective on her (recently softened) dominatrix look - likely a sadistic pedo herself. I doubt this was the first time these two met. Be on the lookout for photos of her with the Podesta/CPP crowd. These people need to be picked up and held for serious interrogation - Patriot Act style.
Gorillion ago
I'm going to start calling female pedophiles "Kelliphiles" in her honor.
save_thechildren ago
Absolutely disqusting......
olive611 ago
I wanted to throw my tv out the window. His smug fucking face enraged me.
repoman ago
He reminds me of Dexter
ZalesMcMuffin ago
do it, faggot
you will feel better soon ^^
eyeVoated ago
I threw out my tv a long time ago. That device is not good for you
alliecapone ago
My grandma had one for us kids, but she didn't watch it. She called it the "Squawk box" and told me I musn't waste my time in front of it. Grandma is always right, always. I admit I do watch mine, but I restrict it to the true crime shows, there's a couple network shows, but mostly I'm into Netflix and the documentaries. ANYWHERE I can find interesting docs, I fall into a documentary wormhole. I think there's some good in tv, but it's like looking for a diamond in a pile of cow pies these days. I like to feed my brain, not dull it. I'm glad I didnt go falling victim to the crap shows they used to program people. That's the ONLY explanation I can come up with why people are lacking empathy. The celeb worship has ruined our country. They aint nothing but dust if that's what we pay them. Pay them dust, don't even watch out of morbid curiosity. The ratings WILL TALK.
And when the truth is out, they better not even DARE try to get exclusives, and shove journalists that researched to bring it the spotlight it needs. The reporters ignoring and participating in the arm of cover up, enjoy your "career" while it lasts. I've blocked these channels. Nobody else in the house watches it, we just use netflix. I think I'm in contract with my cable company...there should be a way to break the tv part. If people do this en masse, the cable companies will freak out.
Time for me to take a xanax....damn I'm over here shaking like a pup passin a peach pit :/
eyeVoated ago
When I was a teenager, back in th 90's, I only knew 1 family that didn't watch television. Now I know several. People are waking up :)
"... shaking like a pup passing a peach pit" Lol