Might have a timeline for you https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466017

That's very snide of you.

Your name suits you :-p

No it is the FIRST thing we should do. Why in the hell should we keep old ideas from dead men who were slavers? No vision, no future for you. You have no courage or vision.

Equality of females is denied under freedom of religion. Religion is a male cult and always has been. So, tell me about inalienable.

I'm glad to hear that. Maybe we can add more years to his sentence.

when i got to this topic a week late, the first thread i read was a note from supposedly a firmer comet employee. mentioned it's much worse than we can imagine. fbianon has said same thing. author said to stop eating pizza, especially dominoes. another poster found over 80 orders for dominoes pizza specifically by DNC during campaign. i wont let myself make this connection any darker as ti what could be driving their thirst for this specific pizza but it scares me to the core as to possibly why.

Theory: They recognized the Podesta brothers (knowing them through Clement Freud) and got some b.s. explanation at the time. Therefore, they decided to hide the eFits.

Just a theory...

Great point. Thanks.

You've rekindled my interest in this angle.

I think it is worth noting that one of the stuffed animals was a teddy bear, which is referred to as a "pedo bear" in the pedo world and also there is place called The Endless Summer Bar & Pizza in Portugal that has a spitting image little girl lover FBI pedo symbol. I'm not sure of the distance from where the Mccann's were on holiday to this place but I think it is worthy of some investigation to see if their is any links to pizzagate.

I saw this somewhere, not my original thought. Just thought I would pass it on. Truthfully, I am 64 years old, and feel just helpless in this. It was such a twisted thought, almost laughable, but kinda makes you think with all this going on, that even the implausible can be possible.....

Point is, they would surely be aware of the unique eye condition. I remember back at the time when she went missing thinking how stupid it was of them to publicise this, as such an identifiable feature would clearly panic a kidnapper and put the child at increased risk. I now do not believe for a second that Madeleine was kidnapped at all. Those sniffer dogs do not lie.

The documentary referenced in this thread says the McCann's were provited with the eFits and 'handed them over to authorities.' Why weren't the eFits publicized immediately when created? Why were they deep sixed for FIVE YEARS?

Madeleine McCann had a unique feature on her right eye, which was heavily publicised at the time. You can see it here http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/indepthtoolkit/624/news/special/panels/13/oct/madeleinemccannmap/img/img_panel_1381832755.jpg She would still have that if it were her.

The same British government so many people claim are in the occult from the VERY top? I highly doubt it. I have not really looked into them as much but I don't get a good feeling. I definitely think something is up. I was down a rabbit hole a few nights ago and stumbled on Jon Bonet Ramsey autopsy photos and noticed she had a heart drawn in the inside of her hand. I really am not trying to draw people away from pizzagate and I have been scolded by people on this site for bringing up Sandy Hook and such but there are so many links that just take me back to these places whether I want to be there or not!

This is one of those areas that make me wonder if it's really all that wrong to 'construct' the case in a way that will allow for justice to be served if it's due.

Yeah, you're right. I deleted it. It's been many years since I've paid attention to this case. Too bad it has become the main focus here.

I came across this site. It has all the historical flight records back to 2002. If the Podestas were in Portugal, they would have had to land at Faro airport. Since Podesta has his own plane it would have been logged. An International flight plan would have had to be logged . Plus the pilot would have had to fill out his personal logbook.http://www.oag.com/flightview/historical-flight-status

This is a brilliant and important bit of research here, and i follow the logic of it clearly. A lesser known development in the alleged kidnapping was the fact that 2 dogs, trained to scent blood and bodies indicated the lounge floor at the window for blood, and the bedroom cupboard for body. This suggests that the child was not kidnapped but died in the apartment. The McCanns were very quick to dismiss this piece of evidence when it came to light. The dogs also indicated the hire car that was used by the McCanns for blood. I feel that there may be a possibility that the detective, already being at odds with the Clintons, produced these efits as a warning shot for them to leave him be. This seems to fit with the narrative that you give, combined with the dog evidence. The presence of the small mole suggests that these were sketched from a photograph, rather than the memory of a witness as a guide. Podesta had numerous properties, one in Venice, Italy for example. Perhaps he and his brother would be less guarded about their activities whilst abroad, making the locations outside of the US that we an connect him to a potentially more fertile ground for research. Either way, the thrust of the OP stands and I join the many others complimenting the writer for it. This is a great source you have here generally at this site, and the quality of research in this, and many other posts is first class.

Kudos, well written and gives me hope that the wheels of justice are turning, and the Trump administration will do the right thing here.

a) the efits could be of the people who commissioned the snatch and were arranged, as insurance, by the ones who were hired to do the snatch.

b) The efits could have been arranged by underworld figures, who know previous activities of the efit characters in that space, and used as blackmail or to extort money.

c) same as b) however opportunistic underworld figures carried out a snatch knowing those in the efit were holidaying in that area and it was the perfect blackmail/extortion opportunity

d) They did the snatch themselves and the efit is correct

e) parallel construction by intelligence agencies

You made an account just to post this... I smell shill.

We should treat these images the same way law enforcement does in our presentation to the public (our "court of public opinion"). We can't convince someone of this parallel construction...it's too circumstantial and seems to be reaching to someone unconvinced of all the other damning evidence. So this should just be used as confirmation for us, and leads us on in the investigation, but should not be part of our presentations (memes, aggregations, images, etc.) to the public. It's not convincing evidence by itself and should not be submitted to the "court of public opinion".

You're correct, that is their intention, to discredit. Twitter is flooded with infographs of pizzagate and each one has the e-fits and some retarded caption about the brothers and Weiner GUILTY! it's fucking ridiculous and the fact that the mods here are letting it go on despite a month of simple facts being presented is very discouraging.

GREAT ANALYSIS! Thanks for making sense of the eFits.

It's definitely persons on the inside. Apparently we're working with a counter secret society.

Here is Dr. Steve Pieczenik announcing the counter coup being executed by members of the intelligence community: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov5kvWSz5LM

My first reply to the person that posted those police CGIs of the suspects was: "BULLSHIT! Not possible!" It was too good to be true.

Thank you for this post @LegionWill. You've removed any doubt in my mind about the validity of that piece of evidence.

What do you mean by the forthcoming crash landing? We hope there are plans in place by people who do not want to enslave us. At least I speak for myself. Can this be elaborated upon? I assume also you are talking about the so-called "global currency reset"?

This is all wild conjecture, but please bear with me. I'm just repeating what I had read that is out already out there (somewhere), may have been on Voat in comments or in a blog, whatever. I'm just floating it out there. It would need investigation by someone qualified....I also remember FBI anon saying something about not only following the CF but also Big Pharma.

So, I remember reading somewhere a comment Madeline McCann had the same genetic defect that Soros had (what that is I don't know, but I do see a defect in the iris in her eye and having just been diagnosed with a genetic eye disease myself it stood out to me). Also a comment that she was conceived in-vitro - have no idea if any of that is true or not.

So I'm thinking, with the stuff about the blood bank and the hypothesis about young peoples blood perserving life...what if she was connected to that important, rich and powerful person via in vitro conception, and we know that important person is connected to people in the DNC, who would do some dirty work (kidnapping). She would have genetically the same blood/stem cells or something and her blood could be harvested (ongoing) for blood transfusions.

Wild and crazyy for sure and I feel a bit like an idiot for even thinking this. But after seeing what I've seen, who knows? I just want to go back to my stupid little life.

This makes total sense. I suspected they knew this. I thought it was too weird that they were called one man in the press when it was very clearly two different men. And so spot on. Do you know who runs findmadeleine.com? It seems to be a local law enforcement agency in the UK. So they likely are on board.

I still fail to understand how 2 eFits of 1 person could be so unalike.....I could understand if they were similar, but they don't look similar at all..

You still spamming that crap? You've been completely wasting your time trying to convince people those two sketches are of one man.

They have been on the Guardian's website since 2013, Richard Hall's documentary "The Phantoms" discusses their history (2:17:00)

um, i've been an artist for 50 years & no. those are NOT the same man.

600 years to come

ftfy

The day will come when the unsung hero can be honoured appropriately. But for now, there is a war that we need to win. The worst thing is that due to the secretive nature of what is being investigated, we don't know exactly who the main enemy is or what their true motives are. Many of us were led onto delving deeper into #PizzaGate not by our mutual hatred of paedos, but scepticism about globalism, that took a turn for the worse. This could yet become something worse than child abuse or corruption alone.

How can the E-fits be of the same man when they look nothing alike, plus whoever even noticed a mole. It's spitting image of the Podesta brothers, the only way it could get any closer is to have real pictures.

Sweet, thanks for the link and the additional thoughts m8.

It will be talked about for the next 100 years or more.

I want to reiterate this note.

What's going now is living history. And it would have been swept away had Hillary won, and Soros et al had been able to continue their globalist agenda. This shit would only have rooted deeper into into our culture. It's all sickening and scary, but we do live in amazing times. Great people and greater sense of ownership of our society and fundamental, undiluted culture is emerging out of this shit.

I hope one day we can officially recognize the people who leaked all this data as the heroes and amazing human beings they are. I think we lost our great middle-man Assange in this war. Hopefully we won't lose too many more before this finally gets broken open.

Thanks OP, good post, seems like a logical theory. The e-fits are practically photos of these guys. Do you have any more information on: 3. The private investigation company that helped produce the eFits is being hunted by the Clinton-appointed DOJ. So many whistle blowers dying...

I feel like this IS really them and they were really the ones who kidnapped her! I think that's part of their adrenaline high! The excitement of possibility getting caught drives them. It probably was a computer generated sketch from a photo or video. The photos were released in 2013. I feel like it was not by accident that it was John Podesta's email that was hacked. Someone did it because they knew what his emails would expose. He's high level whatever...probably higher up the good chain than the Clintons if it gets right down to it. He's in the center of it ALL even going with Bill Clinton to get Laura Ling in North Korea when she was investigating human trafficking on Steve Bings plane. He's the glue that keeps all these creeps together! Tony Podesta is even a lobbyist for Saudi Arabia! I think it's even him in this picture in this post.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1455529

Also look at the picture of the girl with the sign about food. Something about her looks really sad!

Not that this is necessarily a crime but I think he gets off on the thrill of it all!

Nothing wrong with speculation, but it's certainly not a "breakthrough." The fact of the matter is we have no idea why the eFits match the Podestas so well.

It's not so much that what OP is saying can't be proven -- it's that I could easily concoct a million other theories to explain the available evidence just as well. There's nothing in the post to strongly suggest that OP's theory is particularly interesting or likely even if it can't be proven.

The real answer is probably a little more complicated than "the good guys did it."

Okay, this seems an incredible leap of faith.

There are plenty of very accurate police sketches. And you're forgetting the one about Anthony Weiner.

http://themillenniumreport.com/2016/11/pizzagate-the-scandal-that-will-take-down-the-clintons-the-democratic-party-and-the-u-s-federal-government/

So you think someone would actually impede a police investigation to send a hint?

Nope, not buying this one.

They aren't technically loons, they are there to dilute and misinform. But you're kind of right anyway.

They look identical, something which I found quite extraordinary as well.

On the mole part though, I keep seeing that being pointed out...in the eFit the mole is on one side of Tony's forehead but in the picture it's on the other. Why is this being trotted out as more confirmation? Isn't that just a detail which is off rather than a further confirmation?

Can you elaborate? You mean people who researched this pre-pizzagate?

SIEG HEIL! HAIL VICTORY! HAIL TRUMP!

I had assumed that the images were computer reconstructions from CCTV footage since nobody could do a sketch that accurate.

best post I've seen this week, no bs but logical explanation. btw, OP you should put a link to podesta brothers and efit comparison articles/threads for the new people.

This makes perfect sense as I highly doubt they were physically responsible for abducting her. I'm sure they would leave the grunt work to some low level criminal.

This is the video put out 3 years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9OukW44mOw

The parents sued a newspaper in England that suggested they (the parents) had suppressed the evidence of the E-fits or not given them to the authorities. The paper printed a retraction that the parents had, in fact, handed over the E-fits to investigators but said oddly 'within" a date which was a year later. So it was vague. The parents eventually settled for 55k L.

Some thoughts:

1. Wouldn't the parents want these images out AS SOON AS POSSIBLE to the abduction? They were the best lead.
2. Wouldn't the authorities want these images out instead of sitting on them for years?
3. I agree the images are just too dead on (including the mole) to be legit eyewitness recreations but are likely a CIA/FBI leak. I distinctly remember them coming to light on 4chan and Reddit within DAYS of the election. That was a bomb someone was waiting to drop at the right time - and it was a big one.
4. Some 4chan thread later said 'FBI Anon source confirms' the Podesta Brothers were in Portugal at the time. Would seem this could be verified.
5. 4chan chatter now that John Podesta is currently in Japan at some island and it's the same one he suggested Hastert go to and hide. They also had images of his brother (Tony) having been there decades ago. Town/Island called 'Nose' Japan? It's on 4chan.

Excellent post though and one of the best thus far on this site.

Note also the investigator group hired by the parents were later convicted of squandering hundreds of thousands of pounds improperly running the investigation Who told the parents to hire them?

A couple thoughts.. 1) I always assumed those were made off of actual pics. The entire story of "this is supposedly TWO different witnesses recollections of the same man have never made sense. A witness doesn't usually interpret the weight of a suspect so incredibly differently than another witness to the same person. 2) After these were released no further evidence has turned up related to Podesta's or to those images, so was someone caught out and silenced? Meaning, if we are to assume someone was attempting to steer the investigation toward them that person stopped pushing that narrative after the images were released. 3) The Freud dinner connection is simply too convenient. Why would a known pedo, who's also semi famous, insert himself into the middle of what was an international media shitstorm yet no one was aware of the dinner until Kate McCann wrote about it? I have never been of the opinion that the parents were involved. More likely there were cops on the take who obfuscated the investigation in the media or they were just plain incompetent. My guess is if they had been "in" on something as nefarious as has been suggested (in cahoots with Freud/Podesta's) than their "acting" would have been more in line with what people would expect from parents in this situation. Most of the criticism against them had to do with their supposed off behavior.

The only part I disagree with you on is the continuity of our government. We need to abolish the CIA and institute a new government. We need a fresh country. Our's is 200 years past its expiration date.

And we should kill everyone who has been trafficking drugs out of Afghanistan or people/children from anywhere.

The fact that they're linked to paedophilia and child trafficking doesn't mean that that they were personally involved with the McCann case. The efits, the email timing, and the anonymous tips could all have been part of a plan to frame the Podestas.

This makes the most sense of this seemingly dubious (the source) piece of evidence that has uncanny resemblences.

It is a multi-billion dollar human trafficking red market operated by international regimes and cartels. Pedophilia, organ harvesting, blood storage, forced prostitution, psychiatric and pharmacological experimentation, sextortion blackmail, human donations, and yes sadistic torture for fun -- you name it -- that's what these children are put through.

LegionWill, excellent. Where did you catch the info about blood storage? I ask, because today I posted two articles, that indicate that blood transfusions with blood from young people may be/become a HUUUGE black market:

THE ELIXIR OF YOUTH Plasma from the blood of young people REVERSES the ageing process (The Sun)

Can we reverse the ageing process by putting young blood into older people? (The Guardian)

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456112

Archived page: http://archive.is/q2BIa

Yes, all of the available evidence indicates quite strongly that the Podesta brothers are involved. Examine it for yourself: http://livingresistance.com/2016/11/18/podestas-involved-mccanns-abduction-factual-analysis/

Wp bro

Good to know there is some level of organization to this silent war.

Act now for future generations. Together.

So this whistleblower just said fuck it when nothing happened for years after releasing the exit? This is like Bush supposedly framing Saddam about wmds -- you couldn't possibly fuck it up. By that I mean theres still precisely zero evidence implicating the podestas until its confirmed that they knew Freud or were in portugal. The evidence on that page is weak as fuck including the email wipe ,,,.D, >>79487289..

Unless the independent evidence was also a set up. I'm just saying, it's a possibility and nothing has been proven as of yet.

I think you're onto something. These look too much like the Podesta brothers. I think there are some good people in the FBI that want this out

If the efits were intentionally created to point to the Podestas, then the other option would be that it was a planned psyop.

this.

Now this needs to be on a platform for the world to see. How was this overlooked.

My view from the beginning was that the efits were such a perfect match for the Podesta brothers that they looked as if they had been drawn from photographs not witness recollection. I'm baffled as to the motive, however, particularly when everything would suggest that John Podesta, at least, enjoys getting his hands dirty (i.e., he doesn't seem to leave the nasty stuff to others), and therefore may actually have been involved in Portugal. And there is the additional fact that John Podesta appears in a photograph with a girl who, in my opinion, probably does look like Madeleine McCann would look now. Why would they do this deliberately, when it's only by accident (the attention Wikileaks drew to John Podesta) that most of us have even heard of him?

EXCELLENT POST.

I respect this powerful post. Hadn't thought of that before I read this post.

Yep, 1st time i read about the leaks and the pedo connections that was my thought.

My 2 cents.

I strongly believe that Snowden was a CIA plant to cripple the NSA. They talk about the NSA going out of their role of National Security and were investigating foreign leaders and even charities like UNICEF.

I've been saying this from day one - there's no way a witness recollection would capture their faces so perfectly, down to the mole and everything.

This was a "dry snitch" with motive unclear.

What date did the 'drawings' go public? Seems like I saw them for the first time a few days before the election.

What is an eFit? Have I missed something? I am really not understanding this post at all (except for the explanation of parallell construction).