Thank you all for the comments. I believe now we can start focusing on the real enemy here. They are starting to get afraid. Keep pressing!

Good information, thanks. I do have more to learn about the Jewish connection. But I would suggest that we avoid talking about "the Jews" as one monolithic group, because that could be very easily interpreted as anti-semitic, even if it's actually not, and that would be very bad PR for pizzagate. I suggest talking about Jewish privilege and Jewish supremacy only, to make clear that it is this ideology we are opposing, and not Jews as people. Make it clear that we're opposed to racism in any form, and we're including racism by Jews against non-Jews.

read my profile

No.

i've been a lurker...for a long time

That's what they all say.

mind your own business

So which is it? Read your prof or mind my own business? Stop trying so hard. You aren't very good at this. You might lose that paycheck if you defeat yourself any further.

Christian values you say?

Jesus said to him, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. The second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the law and the prophets depend on these two commandments.” -- Matthew 22:37-40

“I give you a new commandment – to love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. Everyone will know by this that you are my disciples – if you have love for one another.” -- John 13:34-35

The topic creator here posted a message calling for unity within the ranks, avoiding dissension based on political views or walks of life, and you respond by spouting vitriol and literally condemning him to hell. Tell me, which of you two are better exercising the verses above, which are the actual foundation of all Christian values?

When they go to court, it will not matter what party they pretend to be on. Stop dividing and care about the children not politics.

Sadly being near the Potomac, they can just use the currents and wildlife to get rid of a body. Also, there is rumor they have connections to funeral homes.

(Oh boy, well ignoring the fact you are doing exactly what I saying should be happening let me answer your paragraph piece by peace.)

Go to hell (Ad Hominem, instead of address my statement as a whole you attack the person.)

, 4chan (the scum of the internet as you call them) (Last I checked I never said such a claim, assumptions do not help your argument to a person you know nothing about.) found this shit while you "progressives" were busy spreading degeneracy.

(Irrelevant who found it first, what matters is the content; this is not at all relevant to the scandal itself. Second part if you pay attention to the current political climate. Liberals and progressives are no longer the same thing. Notice in all the protests of the election they are claiming progressives for trumps win. Third, majority of the country doesn’t know about this, and I am sure majority of them are of various political and ideological beliefs. Again and other logical fallacy of bias generalization)

It seems to be entirely the left side involved in this pedophile ring and that's no coincidence. (I am not, various progressives are not, but historically republicans are also involved like Reagan and the Bushes, these are dating back well into the 70s and 80s. The logical fallacy here is you are committing is suppressed evidence; you are trying to ignore the wealth of evidence this being a bipartisan problem. Not to mention another over generalizing fallacy. )

You completely fail to see that it was degeneracy and destruction of Christian values (and being more PROGRESSIVE) that lead to this occultist, satanic shit. (Last I checked the religious values do not have that much of an impact. Majority of Criminals are Christians, What are Christian values, because what I know of Jesus your first three words are in direct violation of these values. So it seems you do not value Christian values. Also, Progressives are what fought against trusts, for civil rights, for better work conditions…and incase you didn’t know Progressives started in the Republican Party Teddy Roosevelt anyone? As for the occult shit, I don’t care I am a secular person, to me evil and harmful beliefs that hold bad progress is what I care about. )

You're a concern troll trying to skew the narrative or you don't really understand what we are fighting. (Care to elaborate how I am trolling (when I am attempting to unify), what narrative I am skewing I gather and only see evil people. When the court cases happen whatever party they pretended to be will not be relevant. I understand we are fighting evil and that is where we should focus on. All other items are irrelevant unless it benefits the children or brings these monsters to justice.)

This post is exactly what I am referring; let me tell you how this comes off to other people. IT comes off as you care little about the children and more about you ideals being right. So the person skewing this narrative isn’t me, empirical evidence by our own admission seems to projecting the exact thing you are trying to say about someone else. As for Christian values, you do not show them at all.

While I agree in principle with the ideas here, and believe it would be good for the members of this community, I do not believe it will make any difference to how this movement is perceived by the media. For years, the media labelled Bill Clinton's rape accusers as part of a right-wing agenda. So it's not like this strategy is something new, or like we have the power to change it.

1.8 days

OH. I thought people were complaining about making this a Hillary Clinton issue.

I didn't know people were accusing Democrats at large of this conduct. The dem party is messed up, but so is the GOP. No reason to accuse one side or the other. Attack the individuals on an individual basis for their crimes.

"...different voat subreddits."

different voat subreddits

voat subreddits

Get out.

This is something I've been wanting to say for a long time now, good post OP.

Check out my post on the front page just put it up

I am a leftist who is inquisitive about Jewish conspiracy theory. I think there is a PC tendency to leave the "Jewish Question" off the table for sure, because it is an uncomfortable topic. But I think that going around saying "it's all the Jews! They're all behind it!" is equally toxic and unhelpful. For one thing, we know it's not all the Jews. Pedophilia is a huge problem in the Roman Catholic Church, for instance. I'm reading right now about the Franklin scandal, and a lot of these abusers are not Jews. Even people connected at the highest levels (George Bush Sr, Warren Buffett) are not Jews to my knowledge.

We can bring up the Jewish connection without turning this into a Jew-hunting exercise, which could easily (and rightly) be characterized as anti-semitic and discredit the whole pizzagate investigation.

100% agreed. I would hope that if nothing else, left, right and libertarians should be able to agree that abusing children is wrong. It doesn't get much more basic than that. And if this becomes politicized, that WILL be used to divide and conquer us.

Absolutely agree here. Now we see, that mostly the "left" ones are blamed, as it was the Trump-people who discovered the Pizza-code in the Podesta mails, while the left ones still were wondering, why Wikileaks/Assange was obviously fighting for Trump (or at least to avoid Hillary).
But we have to stop thinking in political parties here. There are the Bushes and the Clintons, for example. And let's think of the "Westminster Paedo scandal" from the UK! We will see, that there are lots of "Lords" and "Sirs" from the Tory-party involved, but on the other side we find the Liberals (Cyril Smith) or the Labour party ("Paedophile information exchange"). Even a crazy looking man like paedo Jimmy Savile, who looked like an old dragqueen, was very close to Maggie Thatcher. "They" are everywhere.

No, I don't think the democrats, the clintons, or the clinton foundation should get off the hook after all of the lying and implying. They're the ones in bed with the same media that is covering up pizzagate, the same shitlibs that promote false rape on campus stories, the same media that bends over to SJW feminazis and assumes they are right. These are dishonest people. If liberals who don't like pedophiles can't deal with the cognitive dissonance, we can just laugh at them

Here is an idea for a meme as TruthTrumps suggests below. An image to depoliticize Pizzagate and get it onto what it is really about. But I'm no good with the graphics part, so here is a description in words: First, a verified child pedo piece of artwork from Podesta's impressive collection. Like the boy hanging in the shower. Above it says, "Pizzagate Is Not Right Against Left" then below the pic, " It's About Everyone Against Wrong" . Then, very important, a URL linking to published evidence that this is a piece of artwork owned by Podesta.

I have ZERO ideological interest so it's taking me a while to get my head around the fact that so many people see the reality or not of Pizzagate as an IDEOLOGICAL question (huh?); the first layer is easy enough to spot (tho it still took me a while to believe it), and that's the "argument" that says it's all a right -wing fake news conspiracy to discredit the demoncrats & if you take it seriously you are either one of them or you fell for their dastardly ploy & you are a Sucker. The people who take this position don't consider the evidence worth looking at, because they already "know" it's all fake.

The second layer is not so obvious but it's the people who think that art & free expression is 100% good and by definition harmless and can't ever be seen as evidence of criminal or sociopathic behaviors (artists can't ever be sociopaths, coz, like democrats, they are all GOOD PEOPLE; I guess?). So for these sorts of people (who overlap with the first group), looking at Podesta, Alefantis and their buddies' weird instagrams and art collections as possible evidence of misbehavior makes you a Nazi-Christian moral crusader sharpening your pitchfork and dousing your torch in gasoline; like, automatically, to question the predominant neoliberal value set MAKES you a right-wing reactionary.

So the Partisan problem goes deeper than just political affiliation and there may not be a way to depoliticize Pizzagate, only to be aware of this ideological factor and how it is running almost all neurotypicals' hard-drives and shaping their thinking, uh, I mean their emoting, around the subject.

Our differences are created by the elites to keep us divided. Rwanda was a manufactured genocide based on faux racism instituted by Belgium so that they could exploit the resources there. The UN Peace keepers were not allowed to intervene in the massacres or politics despite that being their alleged purpose. After it was over Bill Clinton took credit for intervening but really he looked the other way the whole time. I may have some of these details wrong, I heard them in a lecture years ago from the Canadian who headed the peacekeeping. He suffered breakdown and became suicidal from his experience of it all, but the thing that was most poignant to me was how clearly it was a formerly fairly peaceful population that destroyed itself by manipulation by a third party that didn't have to shed any blood itself.

Pizza Gate IS political. Admitting the lefts hands are all over this and it's media ignoring this as it has ALOT of things and John Podesta who served Democrats since his emails were involved will help these kids that were raped.

Pretending the left is not involved WILL NOT.

My God. I can't believe I'm reading this .

For the past eight years in this country America as that's where this is linked, we have had leftist bullshit smiley faces hiding behind equal rights, push riots, SJW shit like valuing Gay marriage over national security and lighting up the White House in a fucking rainbow.

Meanwhile how many times has this country been hacked ? Before this election??????

But let's blame Russia .

OPM is a good example. There are at least three million government workers that took out a law suit against Obama for this hack . The woman in charge Archuletta, was not fired she was not held responsible , and it was found out she didn't even have an up to date fire wall BECAUSE SHE WAS HIRED FOR BEING A LATINA AND A WOMAN!!!!

Not because of her skills. But noooooooooooooo liberals thought it didn't make a difference and that right there had most Americans SCARED . TONS of people yes TONs really thought we were in for it because of the lack of regard for cyber security.

And here we are today.

Reeling from democratic cries of Russians hacked us "ohhhhh boooo hoo " Guess what? That who cares about emails and being hacked caught up huh? Fucking Bernie Sanders even said we have heard enough about Hillarys emails.

Guess we have huh?

People have sat back and watch the left destroy America and justify a bunch of uneducated fucking fucked in the head scream at people, beat them up, and when BLM was done with Ferguson they went to certain cities on the HOLIDAYs and SCREAM at kids!!

There have been many reports on this but noooooooo let them scare the kids cuz cuz they waycist cuz they momma has preeevledge.

Let these groups BRING their own kids to these riots as they have but but that's okay cuz cuz waycist people and stuff.

No I'm sure it's been on VOAT and I could find it on The College Fix, it was reported a college did an event for cancer children and here we fucking go a group of liberal fucking shit heads had to complain about that because of White Priveledge . Recently at yet ANOTHER event for children with cancer Wanda Syko had to ruin it with her black bigoted but only whites people can be racist anti Trump rant .

OH then there's Melissa Perry talking about our kids don't belong to us, BLM saying that . Now who is wanting to separate families here ???

We got babies being left in cars, kids in local news being beat up, and child abuse knows no color as we had some white mother fucker rape a ten month old. He was found out because he had BLOOD around his GROIN.

A cute little boy from Chicago lured off a play ground and shot in the head in cold blood as gang revenge but WHITE PRIVELEDGE , man white people white people. Black Lives Matter riot America sucks !!!!

OVER and OVER.

We have had women in Brooklyn throwing babies off of buildings that was almost an epidemic too.

But no GAY GAY TRANS TRANS !!,

WHERE WAS CNN MSNBC for these abused kids?? Don't give me where was the right shit plenty of these cases were reported by right medias. I'm not even a registered Republican. Here I am reading right news and I protested the Iraqi War!!!!

Where the FUCK were liberals for our children ????

Oh sure, let's have them share bath rooms with trannies. Let's not call boys boys any more or girls girls .

THATS WHERE THE FUCK LIBERALS WERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

My GOD some one just posted in news about some civil rights worker in Germany who is telling Germans to accept Moslem child marriages for fucks sake!!!!

You want to help these children?? Then ADMIT that liberal SJW OVER reach that travelled all the way up to national security to school children's BATHROOMS, to accepting BLM as Civil rights group who attacked a white woman at a mall WITH her little girl I her arms IS WHY our children at least here in America have been let DOWN!!!

This is a DEMOCRAT problem!!! Bernie Sanders cares about the working class?? All of a sudden he's talking a different game now yet doesn't call out George fucking Soros paying for riots in America.

Remember when people came here to flee countries with riots?? Now we have people starting riots talking about tear it down burn it to the ground. These mother fuckers ever stop to consider they just might hurt a school or a hospital or actually hurt a child in their fucking leftist rage????

How long will it be before we wake up to seeing a child was hurt, or died at one of these monkey protests .?

These leftists wanted to weaken our Police , kill cops, how long if they keep doing this before it interrupts with a child in need of a cop in domestic abuse??

Any fucking lib media EVER ask this?

FUCK NO.

The past eight years has not been about our kids except to brain wash them into hating the country they live in, sagging their fucking pants and twerking, talking about sex Ed , and having them grow up too fast by confusing them by pushing the gay agenda

Look at that fucking picture of Mr Comet posing with lip stick on his face with his fat ass laying down!,, That's eight years of progress for you, fuck teaching our kids responsibility .

Those pictures in Comet Ping Pong ??

The red people one on top of a child like figure? Right fucking there while politically correct parents stuff their fucking faces with Pizza? THATS AN EXAMPLE Of A POLITICALLY CORRECT DUMBED DOWN society.

"Dude it's just art like you know"

They got away with this because people are dumbed down. I will NOT dumb down and sit here while a bunch of Redditors flee here like fucking migrants try and down play the LEFTs involvement in this .

Trump won because people have had enough of liberal fucking bullshit and these emails had a lot to do with it!!!!!

No let's NOT drop them political aspect because it's TRUE.

Trust me if we find Repubs are involved with this I'll even be more pissed but as of now these emails were found from a Chief of Staff of president runner Hillary Fucking Clinton A DEMOCRAT.

You know I had enough of Reddit when San Bernadino happened and most commenters said three white men did it before the facts came out. But most knew what THAT was all about . Reddit is also known for its fucking leftist shilling.

If you care about these kids you will call a spade a spade .

And I can picture this little oh happy day hand holding stunt as a way to take the heat off of the liberal Democratic Party. John Podesta in particular as Reddit has been known to have a lot of Hillary shills. I can picture some if them here right now too.

Who have been in charge for the past eight fucking years and won't let go of the fact they lost because people are sick of them. Apparently voting does matter and our elites are scared shitless of Trump they should be so its not " their all the same " some are preaching here.

Pizza Gate is political as the left NEVER did a DAMN thing for children. Just a lot of hiding behind charities . JUST LIKE THE LEFT HID BEHIND " Hope and Change".

I'm not going to forget that .

Because democrats talked more about abortion, gay marriage, common core, tranny bath room sharing , and hate your country kids.

Fuck this!!!

SJW means 'social justice warior', a term used for people who show up at large protest events presenting a vehement leftist rebuke to right-wing speakers in an attempt to silence them through intimidation. It is a phenomena on college campuses where an enviroment of extreme political correctness in speach has resulted in actual curtailment of freespeach. As far as I know, red-pill and blue pill are from the movie Matrix and 'red-pilling' is meant to convey a conversion of a percieved "leftest' toward a more 'rightest" position. But I could be wrong.

I have voted Democrat in almost every election since I turned 18, excepting not for Hillary Clinton. My views on many subjects would be considered 'leftist' by most people. This issue is in no way about political parties and voting habits. This is about the horrendous exploitation of vulnerable people by Power Elite sociopaths. Once we dig them out of their rat-hole, we will find Democrats, Republicans, Libritarians, Anarchists, Nudists, Zorastrians, celebrities, mobsters, and regular Joes among them. Sociopathy as a disease of the brain does not discriminate.

This is an opportunity for people of every persuation, every ethnic background, every religious faith to come together in the name of human decency and stop criminal Power Elite individuals and organizations from raping, murdering, and blackmailing their way to the bank.

SJW - social justice warrior Red pill = you chose the red pill (instead of the blue pill) like the character Neo did in the move The Matrix. Welcome to the rabbit hole! It means you are aware that things are not as they seem and now you can see the world as it really is, stripped of illusions.

Honestly most of the people "investigating" pizzagate are exactly the reason no one will take it seriously. Too many far reaching crazy claims trying to link it to everything from Sandy Hook to super soldiers. I'm convinced the majority have weaponized ADHD or some other disorder that prevents them from focusing.

This goes to the top in the GOP as well. Anyone remember Bush kissing Gannon's head? Or more recently Lamar Alexandar's chief of staff being arrested for child porn and committing suicide?

Watch conspiracy of silence on you tube, then check out the stuff on pizza gate. Remember though, if they are speaking on behalf of this or that political party, they could very well be suspect in my opinion. Thecorbettreport.com is very balanced, but there are others. SJW - social justice warrior. Red pill is a reference to the matrix (great film) as well as a youtuber (personally not sure of him) Lastly, you are very likely to come across the term Satanist. Be aware that not all witches are satanists and child abusers, many are fighting the good fight too.

According to Sun Tzus art of war, this will eliminate a vector of attack from our enemies. No longer they can write off as a conspiracy movement of the right...but as a movement of justice and humanitarian force that is made up of a united front.

Excellent job OP thinking of our enemies tactics and moves will help us in the long run. We all need to read up on these kinds of books as well, especially learn about the historical fall of Rome.

Holocaust size event? I vehemently disagree, PIZZAGATE most definitely is real!

Peter Schweizer wrote Clinton Cash, which caused a bunch of anger among Dems and Repubs and just anyone else. But maybe in his investigation he could have uncovered some of this, but he had no hard proof at that time. It's possible. We are dealing with some real deviates, those Clintons and their friends.

Well, you could stress the money laundering stuff, then say it includes all of this, plus the drugs and arms. Just my 2 cents' worth. What about that person that wrote the Clinton Cash? Maybe he knows some of this as well. It's just a thought, and maybe he could not prove it.

https://sli.mg/5HK8jK theres some more info for ya.

A shill is someone paid to discredit an idea or does it on their own accord. Their idea is that if they can make is look bad/crazy it will make our idea less reasonable because of the people involved. They just make bogus claims or discredit it or make it seem like it's already over. Check out the side bar for more information on them

I cannot believe I have never seen the video of Ted Gunderson (retired head of the FBI) speak about the illuminati and all of this satanists shit. Anything like this from the past that is connected to government and people in power, will show sheep that it never went away... it only got bigger. For some reason it seems like almost all of these things just fade away with lies and misinformation. The dark forces behind the scenes always seem to win the mind battle. At this point, there is no reason for there not to be an investigation. The blatant mass media cover up was my eye opener. Thank you to everyone that is helping in the mass effort to reveal these sick bastards to the many people that are blind to it.

DONT GIVE UP ON THIS!

DONT LET THIS FADE AWAY!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BplUD6kQYuU Retired HEAD OF FBI Tells ALL "Illuminati, Satanism, Pedophile Rings"

Exactly what i thought when i read this. Let's depoliticize this so let's not point the finger at exactly who is doing it!!! Dont point the finger at the Clinton Foundation, ...or the Jews .... or the Gays .... i'm all about uniting on a common front but to ignore the evidence of who is actually behind this because of your political leanings is counter productive to the resolution of this problem. We have come this far already and now you want to go in reverse by censoring truth? Sorry i'm not on board with this ... unless of course we are talking about true patriots such as "Bro Nathanial" who are more than willing to point the finger at members of their own group because they know it is the right thing to do... an example would be hillary supporters that have "seen the light" and now realize how evil she is and have turned against her. Anybody that still supports this demon and claims to be on the side of good is an outright liar. Feel free to downvote me now!

There a left wing people working on this? News to me.

I agree. And I'm seeing censorship everywhere I go too.

You are the ones politicizing it. We The People just want to stop these child-abusers.

I totally agree with this, especially point 2. If they can keep us fighting between ourselves, then they can continue to do what they want.

Their organization extends across party lines and so it matters not (mostly) which part is in power - they win either way and can continue.

So, let's do everyone involved in this a favor and take the attack to these monsters who are the antitheses to everything that's good in the world regardless of party, race, creed, religion etc.

If you ask me, this is about good vs evil, wholesomeness vs rot. Call it dark vs light, or truth vs lie if you want, I really don't care. But we need to wake up to the fact that the upper echelons of this structure have been playing us for fools, for a very, very long time.

It's time for us to "grow up" as a populace and a species and acknowledge that we have a cancer amongst us. A parasitical filth that uses our division against us, and literally feeds off of our most vulnerable for their own sick reasons.

No more.

ITT: Nobody who has been on voat for even over a month. Eat shit and die. All of you.

4 hours

Depoliticize? WE are not politicizing pizzagate you shill FUCK. The MEDIA is politicizing it by NOT REPORTING IT. We don't hate the pedophiles because they're democrats. We hate them because they're PEDOPHILES. The liberal media, however, forgives their horrible crimes BECAUSE THEY'RE DEMOCRATS. THEY ARE POLITICIZING IT. Fuck you. Die a painful death.

I made a post earlier saying something similar to this in a much more terribly worded way..

It got deleted as irrelevant. Thanks mod.

I agree with this post. I will admit it bothers me LESS when the culprits are liberals, because I do not consider myself politically liberal, and so have no need to defend liberals. It becomes more difficult when they are conservatives, for some of us. Let's remember, there have been plenty of pedos that were affiliated with the Republican Party, and there's no point in making a list, because it is counter productive. I will say this: If you don't curtail your desire to implicate only one side, then you may miss vital clues. For instance, since it's true that "Bird's of a feather flock together", maybe we should take a closer look at the Republican "good buddies" of any liberal we come across that is involved here? May open up a whole new can of worms. Just my two cents.

Thank you so so so so so much for this!

Look, this video has been posted before and instantly written off as shilling and I completely disagree with that. https://youtu.be/2OrX0U4qwTM

There's a huge difference between shilling and providing a different subjective opinion and perspective on the issue. I worry that we're becoming an echo chamber that if presented with another opinion we immediately write off as a shill.

If you took the time to read this comment take the time to watch the video. Many of our theories debunked in there, unfortunately. I still believe there might be something to this though, so please don't give up.

What about the Bohemian Grove which is a republican thing?

I'd say there's a simpler way of looking at this.

John Podesta/Clintons/DNC - Pizzagate, 2016

Craig Spence/Bushes/RNC - Franklin Scandal, 1989

If Pizzagate is true, then the Franklin Scandal is likely true and likely related. Therefore, there is no room for partisan politics. NONE. These people are vile, monstrous criminal swine and breaking them down into neatly labeled groups is a waste of time, a distraction, and an easy out for anyone who can't handle the cognitive dissonance.

Thank you! My biggest peeve of this all, is when people start mixing politics in it. There a satanic pedophiles on both sides, not just the DNC. This is about the victims, the predators and finding a way to get rid of the trash.

Here's a meme:

Republican, Democrat, Independent (pictures all spliced) into three

All pedophiles should be treated equally

I have been tweeting about Hastert and Paul Ryan and Ben Sasse. https://archive.fo/spr9d

Here is where some of us are trying to make memes and counter articles to discredit MSM.

https://voat.co/v/MagicMemes

YES! DO NOT BE DIVIDED BY POLITCAL PARTIES THIS IS FAR BEYOND THAT, THIS IS ABOUT THE INNOCENT KIDS BEING RAPED, OUR FUTURE BEING RAPED

Unfortunately we also need to discredit MSM and shed the "fake news" label. It's hard to accomplish both without exposing their bias in politics.

Amen. I suppose a lot of us have a right-conservative bias because this originated with analyzing the Podesta emails dropped by Wikileaks, but it's grown far beyond that. It's no longer a political movement. It's a moral outrage. It's not just about Hillary Clinton. It's about deep political corruption and horrific evil that goes far deeper than any of us could have imagined. All political ideologies need to unite in saving these children and making sure those responsible are brought to justice.

If your not gonna say something supportive why say it man. It's that type of thinking that stops us from reaching our potential

Also, I think we need a thread for debunked/opposing views on some of the emails.

I watched a video "debunking" pizzagate. While the guy in it gave a lot of alternate explanations for the emails, artwork, instagram posts. I don't think it discredits our entire theory.

I apologize if this appears "shillish" but after looking at some of the evidence for the other side of things I felt a bit disappointed in myself. Objectivity is key.

the US bipartisan issue is an illusion, both are heads of the same snake. I had that hope Obama would be different than Bush, i was mistaken, Obama was Bush 2.0, the same deception, just he can speak whole phrases, but his promises, none accomplished, he said to close Guantanamo, lies. Those figures in power are talking heads, reading from a teleprompter. I expect little more than entertainment from US presidents. I would not be surprised if Trump shows up he is as involved in this sea of mud as the democrats are, check the list of pedo-republicans, its big.

I 100% agree, just focus on what's important here don't forget the goal of pizza gates guy

Agreed. Find connections to Republicans and I think that might help. They are definitely out there. It is absolutely not a left/right issue.

I think most of "politicizing" of Pizzagate is directly related to the party affiliations of those involved and their connections to the Democratic party. Personally, I don't feel it is political but just happens to be those atm. There is other evidence outside and beyond Pizzagate that shows Republican issues.

MSMs are masters at spinning things. No matter what you do, they'll always spin it. To be honnest, I don't have the feeling that the #pizzagate community is too politically polarized right now. Now that the election is behind, zealous political supporters of both sides have moved on to other topics and are now busy fighting around the recounting issue. Only people who truly care about the children are still here, with the exception of the occasional troll, and of course the paid shills who will be here no matter what and will try all possible strategies to hinder our investigation effort.

I think the Pro Trump thing has become a bigger thing Voat wide recently because a lot of people came here from the Reddit T_D group, and the N....r thing was from Coongate.

Not everyone here is a Trump supporter - or a Hillary supporter (like me) I do think that making things non-partisan will make the group seem more legitimate, or at least take away the ability for the MSM to say that it's an attack on "poor ole Killary". There is shit out there showing it's not just Democrats who are into raping kids.

Absolutely agreed. Franklin involved mainly Republicans, but there were Dem's involved as well. Alot of these politicians don't give a shit about politics, its power and being above the law that motivates them.

You folks are adorable.

Yes! I said this, got to the Top with upvotes and @kingkongwaswrong called it "concern trolling" and deleted the submission. (200+ upvotes, 10 down votes, from people blasting me with ad hominems)

Keep spreading the message though. If MSM can label this a "alt-right" conspiracy it's dead in the water. Forgive my concern!

This should be stickied

Oh good, a Holocaust denier. The only thing worse than a flat-Earther lol.

A good sentiment, but unrealistic, I think.

1. The leftist rabble are PC SJWs, they will not accept truth. It is not by our choice that we are a primarily right wing, it is because the leftists will not join us that is the case.

2. They will use that vector of attack regardless. Again, truth has nothing to do with it.

3. Being highly motivated is also important, and politics is a powerful motivator. Turning away avenues of research out of an attempt to be apolitical is also bad.

Ultimately, the left does not care that children are being raped and/or killed. They don't even give lip service to caring. Like not caring that Hillary stole the primary from Bernie by blatantly cheating, they dismiss and excuse away all evidence of wrongdoing as right wing lies or justified for the greater good. Like it or not, the moral absolutism of rightists means that's where we are going to get 90% of our support.

I think it's hard since its mostly the democratic party involved. The crimes aren't political but I think people should be free to use this as a political statement, even though it could be harmful to my libertarian views

Good post. We must remember that Donald Trump was also a friend of Epstein. He might be involved.

I think an FBi investigation is already open, and they'd be insane to act unless Trump is the sitting president.

Yes, I agree with this. It's likely to work better strategically and likely that both Republicans and Democrats are involved in pedophilic rings and the cover-up.

I will quote a movie here. "The task of depoliticizing is going to be almost impossible." "No, it's necessary" . Money is involved, and we will find the trail.

This is not a left-right issue at all.

This is a good-evil issue. Our future depends on it.

This is true, now i am not saying we all hold hands and sing kumbaya sp?. We all are brothers and sisters in arms against the same bad guy now. I am actually surprised the amount of censoring that is occurring for a "fake news" article right?

Wonderfully said, and I couldn't agree more. Everyone, if you don't know about the Franklin Scandal read up on it now. You can start by watching this documentary Conspiracy of Silence. Documenting the Franklin Coverup Scandal involving prominent Republicans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38FPi5-4g7A&t=17sYouTube

Also listen to this podcast Sword and Scale - Episode 5 and 6. It goes into great detail on the scandal as well.

http://swordandscale.com/sword-and-scale-episode-5/

http://swordandscale.com/sword-and-scale-episode-6/

This is a backup link of a great source of nonpartisan information as well

https://archive.is/gspog

Hear, hear! #2 is all you need to say!

Hear, hear! #2 is all you need to say!

Hear, hear! #2 is all you need to say!

Thank you! I'm a Hillary voting liberal and Pizzagate opened my eyes. It was hard to muck through the "libtard" posts and articles that were clearly just more BS to create division by the media - to get to the truth and actually have it hit me where it mattered. We need more people to wake up and politicizing this is way too easy to keep people in the dark.

I promise all of you - I don't know a single liberal that is actually as stupid as these articles put out make us seem. I would hate us too if we were. Most of us just want peace, freedom and reasonable taxes.

Fully agree. Making this a Rep vs. Dem/left vs. right exercise is counterproductive. This needs to be treated as a non-partisan issue since people on both sides of the "aisle" appear to be involved at this point.

Thank you all for the replies, when my close friend (who is alt-right) introduced me to this. I was angry...very. It is hard to believe this could be happening. Remember "Even if there is a 1% chance of being true, that is 1% to many".

Hear, hear!

You are right. The shills will never reach a certain threshold though. I have been following this sub for a week now but today I just couldn't hold back anymore after reading so many polarizing posts. I registered today. The revelations in this can of worms will reboot all geopolitical and religious aspirations worldwide believe me. All this political talk can faint if we can just get the word out.

Drop the dogmas, spread the truth.

Thanks for the sensible post. Every time Hillary gets mentioned I roll my eyes. Just stop. There are clearly pedophiles operating. Stop the political lynch mob and start focusing on evidence.

I believe the evidence will show that a global problem exists with charities based around kids that are havens and networks for abuse.

Excellent post. Maybe somebody could come up with memes stressing the bipartisan point. There is speculation that people who may be (or are ) involve from both sides include Clintons, Podesta, Scalia, Danny Hastert, Bush Sr. We need to get the bipartisan aspect out there. Pizzagate and Clinton/Podesta involvement is only the tip of the iceberg in a world wide BIpartisan ( or multi partisan) pedophile ring among the elite in politics and royal society.

This is a tall order. I try to only pay attention to posts that don't assign blame. I not only ignore the Jew-bashing or bipartisan junk, but I think character evidence and circumstantial evidence are mostly dead ends. Transactions, whether they are financial, fraudulent, or otherwise, leave a trail. Even the absense of a transaction which should exist is a trail. Sadly after this is all said and done, human trafficking, child-sex crimes, black market organ sales, and global financial crimes will all still exist. But hopefully some of the biggest offenders will be incarcerated.

Thank you, I've been lurking for a little while. I believe this is the most important elephant in the room. It it vital to the life span of this investigation. I think to much is at stake to not push for a common banner. As I been coining "If there is a 1% chance this is true, it is 1% to many".