We need to Depoliticize Pizzagate. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by ravagedblade1588

Repost, phone screwed up formatting Shrug

I will be brief however straight to the point. I am seeing way to much left blaming on this issue. While it appears right now the left is involved with this scandal. Historically it is a bipartisan issue, both sides are highly entrenched. We also need to keep things focused purely as "stopping evil people, no matter, their race religion, political affiliation". Second, we need to be logical, objective, and entrench ourselves with the concepts of logic (Ref=http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/visualizations/rhetological-fallacies/ memorize make it part of your psyche). This is about the children. I will make a post soonish detailing the potential numbers involved, I will say based on quick equations of the numbers we are looking at a Holocaust size event. Our primary and only motivator is to save the children. Political, religious, and economic ideologies are irrelevant.

Reasons why this needs to happen.

  1. It is stop the alienation of allies on all sides of the political, philosophical, and economic spectrum. Rather they are socialist, capitalists, libertarian, right wing, or left wing; or they are christian atheist, jew or muslim we are united in stopping evil people.
  2. According to Sun Tzus art of war, this will eliminate a vector of attack from our enemies. No longer they can write off as a conspiracy movement of the right...but as a movement of justice and humanitarian force that is made up of a united front.
  3. Finally motivation, if there are political motivations behind every investigation. It will create bias and affect the investigation. It can lead to skipping or missing over evidence. Skew the interpretation of evidence, or influence conclusions. Most importantly the motivation is more being politically right than saving the kids.

I am not saying this is everyone, however I have see many posts on various social mediums that are to political or religious and the MSM is 100% using it as an avenue of attack. Let us drop our religious, economic, and political banners and work together to save these children and stop evil. I am saying this as a Progressive who wants evil destroyed.

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djaeveloplyse ago

A good sentiment, but unrealistic, I think.

  1. The leftist rabble are PC SJWs, they will not accept truth. It is not by our choice that we are a primarily right wing, it is because the leftists will not join us that is the case.

  2. They will use that vector of attack regardless. Again, truth has nothing to do with it.

  3. Being highly motivated is also important, and politics is a powerful motivator. Turning away avenues of research out of an attempt to be apolitical is also bad.

Ultimately, the left does not care that children are being raped and/or killed. They don't even give lip service to caring. Like not caring that Hillary stole the primary from Bernie by blatantly cheating, they dismiss and excuse away all evidence of wrongdoing as right wing lies or justified for the greater good. Like it or not, the moral absolutism of rightists means that's where we are going to get 90% of our support.

ScottKnight ago

To be fair I wouldn't blame the left but some people in the US are extremely loyal to the democratic party and won't believe anything bad about them at all.

Because think, what we are doing right now is being social justice warriors

ravagedblade1588 ago

The real SJWs, however I like to think of us just being decent human beings. However, remember there are dogmatic believers on every ideology.

@djaeveloplyse "Ultimately, the left does not care that children are being raped and/or killed. They don't even give lip service to caring. " That tiny phrase is a sound bite to use against you. I understand your anger. Direct it towards the evil. In the end when justice comes party will mean little.

djaeveloplyse ago

I will not shy away from the truth simply because evil people might use it against me. The left genuinely does not care, just like they don't care about Bill Clinton's many credible accusations of raping adults.

ravagedblade1588 ago

Then explain the number of "left" leaning folks here? This is not a leftist issue There are various cases of these dating back to the 70s all involving both parties. Again think outside of your political perception this is a good vs evil.

djaeveloplyse ago

I didn't say it was a leftist issue at the top, I said that leftists among the common people who subscribe to PC will not be of much use.