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Were gonna lose this site cuz cocksuckers keep playing games

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Hopefully this honest suggestion will be seen through all the BS below -

• Stay open and transparent, do not try to manually ghost accounts, since the code demonstrably doesn't allow that (per your announcement above). Log and display valid DMCA requests publicly (sub under announcements or dev or someplace new).

• Since you are OPEN, and do not alter information users post, you likely fall under the OSP/Service Provider definition of the act and have Safe Harbor protections against DMCA lawsuits.

• You are only responsible for taking down "infringing content" (of the copyright being claimed) expeditiously and blocking access of the user violating the act. The account name seems to be the copyright issue, not the posted content which would be, if anything, identity theft on the past of the user.

  • § 512(c) The storage safe harbor protects the OSP against copyright liability “by reason of the storage at the direction of a user of material that resides on a system or network controlled or operated by or for the service provider" (meaning that the user is responsible, not the OSP.)

• Blocking the account's user and changing the account name may be all that is required under the act, which I would recommend doing in such a way as to indicate it was a DCMA violator.

• Further, you may obfuscate the posted content, but I don't see anywhere in the act that requires you to do anything to it unless there is specific content - as pointed out by the DCMA complainant - that violates their copyright. (Not a lawyer, but thick experience in contracts, SOx and such.)

Can we shoot the faggots now!

Just change the username to NOT_BlackRifleCoffeeCo.

And just like that, there is no comment history for @BlackRifleCoffeeCo

I AM GOOGLE

This seems like a really big stretch. I mean nissan.com is owned by a company other than Nissan steam.com isnt owned by valve. How can a username be dmca worthy?

I don't believe it is...

We at Voat have gotten used to a free-for-all website, but that isn't actually true. We have to operate within the confines of the law, and DMCA takedown requests are a law we have to follow.

Wow, that didn't take as long as I expected

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Hmm, this Black Rifle Company take down request seems to be a red herring to get us all to go along with modding Voat to allow felt swoop removal of a user and all their posts. Another user already indicated that this isn't a valid takedown request according to copyright law, however I do not see @PuttItOut addressing these real concerns... also did we ever learn who that new "angel" investor was by chance?

BAHAHAHA, so they show their "true" colors, thanks for transparency putt.

DM their twitter and let them know that what their doing is dumb. Really dumb.

How unfortunate for BRC.co and we shall boycott their hissy fitting tantrum. The only solution to the user name is to archive everything posted and only have the headers used viewable.

http://archive.is/uDulu

@PutitOut: Nick Rekieta frequently brings up copyright issues on his youtube channel, maybe he'll be able to help.

I just figured, naively, that a 2nd Amendment company (BRCC) and a 1st Amendment company (Voat) could work out an issue the old-fashioned way. Needless to say, I was never able to 'get past the receptionist' so to speak.

Trying to reason with a bunch of kikes isn't going to help....

Great post. Movers and Packers Kondapur

Not surprising. They aren't really a 2nd amendment company. They are insiders with privileges. Cops and soldiers.

In present day America, they are the jackboots standing on the throats of the little guys and the non-conformists. They have zero interest in the kind of freedom and autonomy we are fighting for.

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according to the persons personal page they haven't posted shit, nothing, just kill the name in the administration console or block names being created with that name like a filter. Problem solved. Hell it was probably made just so the company can do legal action maybe by the company itself. Don't be like assauge and just do it. It is not removing free speech because getting sued and your investor leaving would be more restrictions on freedom of speech with Voat gone. Maybe this entire thing is so they can get the name for the investor in a courtroom and then the deep state goes after your investor to make an example so lets not be stubborn and remove this one name, if they haven't posted it's not removing their free speech since there is nothing to delete. Seems stupid to stick by convictions and have the site disappear even if they don't win by getting your investors name. Don't pull a Hillary.

Of course he does. He's being a hypocrite right now.

You're being way too obvious

Was it a parody account?

this sounds like classic kike over reaction. I wonder how it will end...

It does make me wonder though, why would a user make that username?

F this S. I am already tired of reading about the Congo Koffee Company or something

Obviously, the solution to this is for someone to start/have a different black rifle coffee co that exists outside of the coffee industry. Then the “rights” of the account and thus the DCMA is totally disputable. Personally, I want a machine gun that shoots different kinds of pellets, like regular beans or coffee beans in a non lethal way. I would buy such a gun from a company with a similar name, as long as there was no address match from the company. Then I’d know it wasn’t the same douchebags.

BlackRidingCockChomper?

Black Cock Swallowing Company?

for bunch of 'battle-hardened' veterans, they are acing like lib-tarded snowflakes.. they mustve all served under the dont-ask-dont-tell era.. now they are butt-hurt over trumps no-tranny policy. fuckin' twinks capitolizing on real killers, then being absolute douuche-nozzles.

Maybe add a flag to account, that would be shown as a flair, showing some legal text like

"Not official, parody account" - and on hover/click would explain and possibly link to copy of DMCA notice.

Talk to a lawyer, but I think if all posts from this guy would be marked as parody-account in clearly visible way, then it should be o.k.

edit: o.k. as in - couldn't realistically cause legal trouble to Voat

I'm not a lawyer, this is not legal advice, but I have dealt with this kind of stuff before.

The request itself doesn't say anything about the DMCA. It's a notice of (alleged) trademark infringement. The "correct" response is to either remove the content, or hire a lawyer who will tell you whether you should remove the content or tell them no.

If you don't respond at all, they might sue you. They would have a difficult time winning, but for you it would still be expensive even if you win. If you do respond, they might still sue you, but it would be less likely.

My suggestion would be to start a legal fund. If people feel strongly enough to donate for a lawyer, then you hire one (and do what they say.) If they don't, then you rename the account.

Also, if you do decide to rename the account, I'd suggest renaming the account to "This account was formerly named BlackRifleCoffeeCo, but has been renamed due to a trademark complaint, see link below for details" or something along those lines.

Real vets protect freedom of speech, I'm a vet I say fuck this company! Pansies

A shame. I've bought their product in the past. Didn't realise that the were Niggardly Rifle Coffee Company®

Anybody else notice VOAT is KICKING ASS these days?

Well fuck aren't they just a big bad ass real corporation now they got kcups and lawyers JAMIE WTF BRO!

Has DMCA ever been used against China?

Went to school with Evan! Extreme Patriot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzLNC-strf0&t=16s

I think this community is over-reacting, frankly.

I really hate it when Voat acts like Twitter retards.

The fuckers just want their name off something they cannot control. Big FUCKING deal. Down to the end of the zero pile I go. Who cares?

Reads to me like someone made an account so they could cause you a problem. Might want to grab those logs just in case.

If you guys have any ideas on how we can satisfy DMCA requests like this and still log that they occurred

Well, the "log" part is already taken care of.

why is it that the jew is at the center of a LOT of problems with earth.

Late to the party, but please read,

Copyright and Parody

No company is going to allow themselves to be parodied, so they have a law to protect parodies and satire.

Precede every account name on Voat with "Parody Account" as in, Parody Account > BlackRifleCo

Now no one can fuck with you again on usernames. Use Jew tricks against them.

@puttitout create a voat vault for DMCA takedowns and corresponding posts from the infringing account ?

2nd plan : How about I post the CEO’s home address and where his kids go to school ( throw a goat at his kids with a “V” shaved on the side )

Voat does have a way to allow people to post anonymously. Is there any way to just make all posts by that person the same as if they selected to post anonymously?

Was this account a setup? A pre set up for this to come. The account is only a month old with really no socializing. Can these Trademark names be used as a weapon to attack social platforms in this very fashion? Id be fine if theres a way to show logs of before and after satisfying DMCA.

From what I'm reading here and there usernames might not even be eligible for a trademark infringement takedown.

@puttitout can you change the username and have that reflected in all post history... perhaps just rename it to a rando value or some other associated value, perhaps add flair to indicate it was dmca'd?

The issue I see here is that this is a slippery slope and we need to be carefull that we dont open a door people can abuse in a manner thT could eventually incapacitate us.

As always thank you for the transparancy.

Fuck me. I love their coffee. Great customer service, too. Veteran owned small business that makes a quality product. Now I have to find somewhere else to buy my morning fix.

KikeRiffleCoffee

I COME FROM BUENOS AIRES, AND I SAY KILL EM ALL

Cant you just anon them in the same way you can anon all your posts when deleting your account? That way, and shit talking that account might have done could not be used to make BRCO look bad as that shit talking is now associated with a numbers account.

@Puttitout, @totes_magotes has the right of it here. I had a similar experience with a trademark infringement claim a few years ago.

That said, I'm cancelling my monthly coffee subscription and will be letting them know why. No need for the cool sweatshirt they gave me in order to make up for a shipment that went awry...

Is it real?

The only content they have complained about is the user profile. Can you just redirect that page to something like a "BRCC hates freedom" error?

Sounds like the kikes over at Nigger Rifle Coffee deserve a dirt nap.

How many posts are we talking about? Do we even know?

I mean their support of the ring wing was flimsy from the get go , they never really came out in support of the right wing all they did was say "lol fuck starbucks, come buy our shitty coffee instead" and then spam their name on message boards.

they dont even have a comment or post history....

offer them the account?

what other option is there really? you ghost it then what? someone else makes another account?

how would they even know an account like that exists with no comment history. unless they tried making an account themselves. or specifically looking for trouble.

to say the least it looks like theyre looking for useless trouble. I'm not even going to bother with their coffee again, and I like buying from those small companies.

Good for them. If I ran that biz I'd have done something a LONG ASS TIME AGO.

In the future, I'd set it so that registered business names can't even be allowed to be taken as usernames. I'd be a pain in the ass to deal with scaling out into the future.

Don't take existing company names and use them as your user-names and then shit-post all over the internet with them. They have reputations, public image, and are all trying to make a living. Nobody wants some Random on Voat making statements as "them".

Black Rifle Coffee Company is a greedy jew's best friend.

Fuck, back to finding a new brew.

Wrote to the CEO and asked that he please return your call. Seems they are experiencing rather high volume but received my message.

What if you change the user name to dmcasuckersdisableeuser?

Dear "Black Rifle Coffee Company" ... You should get on the phone with Voat, quick. The alternative sucks.

Can you just rename the account?

Have you tried telling them to, "Eat a Dick"?

Do you have a way to change his user name? If comments are stored in a database, and if the user name is not a primary key, it might be possible to changed it to @GuyWhoGotDMCAedByBlackRifleCoffeeCompany

Try this:

On the Home tab, in the Editing group, click Replace.

Click the Replace tab.

In the Find what field, type in BlackRifleCoffeeCo.

Leave the Replace with field blank.

Click the Replace All button.

Easy!

Or even a regular pedo!

I thought those guys were pretty okay...but not now. Fuck BRCC.

Welp. That sucks. Shame they don't like their customers. Shame we will have to do business elsewhere.

Any way to turn the page into a redirect to the front page?

If you remove the shit they want taken off the site. Make you archive everything and put it elsewhere. So, goats can see what is being censored and why.

Fucking jews.

They are pissed off jews and you will not ever be able to satisfy them. They want to destroy Voat.

DMCA is for copyright, not trademark. When companies make trademark claims under DMCA, they are materially misrepresenting their claim under the DMCA, and may be in violation of §512(f) of the DMCA

Courts have found for defendants in other cases:

CrossFit, Inc. v. Alvies, No. 13–3771, 2014 WL 251760 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 22, 2014)

More info on that case here: Title HereLink to Lexology.com

@PuttItOut

Going over some of the commentary, and the discovery that the CEO is of a......certain demographic.... Would it be reasonable to assume the account in question was actually created by someone within BRCC, and they now want to distance themselves from it?

Would there be any way to prove such a thing? Or are the privacy measures on the site far-reaching enough that there are no IP addresses tied to a particular post/comment?

Not that I want there to be such records, but if there are, it would be interesting to see if they match up to IP blocks used by BRCC, and throw that back in their faces.

I support following the law. I also support malicious compliance. Perhaps creating a complainy pants forum where we list dcma compliance, as well as list competitors who have not issued dcma notices

We should all make new accounts with blackriflecoffeeco in the name.

Good lesson on trusting Jews that pretend to stand up for american rights.

Can we get the guy from vortex optics to hang out?

Almost ordered coffee from them the other day. Was about to order and my dogs wanted out. Never got back to it since I wasn't out of coffee yet. Thanks, pupperdogs!

Why not just change the profile's handle to @niggerfaggot_coffee_co?

Nope.

We both know I am not a shill and that I'm not affiliated with any group.

Putt owes all of us an explanation, even if you're using this platform for nefarious means... Like you and your "friends".

Drink death wish coffee and tell them to get over it. Can't you just take them out of the system but log it as deleted per request? Leave everything on but put some sort of a water marker declaring that that handle is in no way affiliated with the actual company? I don't know man, if they can't talk on the phone like big boys then they need to stop crying. Maybe they are just looking for a lawsuit because their coffee taste like Cuban herpes....

So ..blackriflecompany accout name will be available soon?

Do you think? I'm sure there are plenty who agree with a lot of what we say but are paralyzed by fear of being called a rascist/nazi etc.

Sheeit. Nigggers.

Not DMCA. Misleading.

Why was DMCA mentioned?

I dunno how? She's dead.

Fuck Black Rifle Coffee Company

Moving voat the hell out of the US would be a good idea but that's obviously a big deal. That would be my suggestion.

This thread really highlights both how clever goats are, and that when you stick your dick in a goat cage it gets bitten.

I poop in the beans

I love black dick.

@PuttItOut

here is your Rosa Parks moment...

Don't bother with phone calls. Send them a letter that explains the lengths to which you can comply with their demand and move on.

DMCA requests are for copyright, not trademark.

See "CrossFit, Inc. v. Alvies, No. 13–3771, 2014 WL 251760 (N.D. Cal. Jan. 22, 2014)" https://www.fr.com/fishTMCopyrightblog/using-a-dmca-takedown-notice-to-assert-a-trademark-claim-may-lead-to-section-512f-liability/

That aside, I wholly agree that Voat exists within the legal framework of the world and needs to comply with valid requests to remove data.

Often with the DMCA the "right" path for a service provider is to remove the content "no questions asked". This is probably the right path for Voat regarding this specific instance.

This specific instance isn't the hill we should die on. Buuuut ...

The DMCA is for copyright, not trademark. This is DMCA abuse. They do likely have the legal standing to have the user removed (IANAL) and should use those traditional channels. Not DMCA.

IMO, all DMCA abuse should be resisted if feasible. It likely isn't a viable path forward for Voat, unfortunately.

Thank you for the transparency! <3

Putt is a tranny gotta play by the tranny rules i guess. I woulda told them to frigg off and made a stickied post about how theyre a bunch of ftm trannies.

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Could you just rename the account to, like, a ticket number or something and have a page/post detailing what happened for various ticket numbers (assuming similar issues in the future).

Couldn't you just change the user name?

https://voat.co/v/NiggerCoffeeGatCo

would "niggerguncafeco" be ok for them to use?

Fuck black rifle coffee company

Considering there are a lot of vets and pro 2nd people here, good luck with sales BRCC.

...with a black rifle!

Nope.

Using a DMCA takedown notice to assert a trademark claim may lead to section 512(f) liability

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=13f9814f-b56e-4314-8e1b-95215ce60a6d

DMCA takedown notice should be used only to address copyright violations.

I'm wondering if someone at BRCC did create that account then post all the lousy posts it made, all with the intention of creating this weird drama. All that accounts posts now say [deleted] user, that should be sufficient. By using DCMA on this they seem to be suggesting they own the copyright on the messages made by that account. That would only be the case if they really made the posts.

Yeah, sure, but when do we get to learn about who Voat is partnering with? You know, since we here at Voat value transparency and all.

Or are you lying and Voat doesn't actually value transparency? Or is it that the values that you (we) appear to have are conditional?

I'm tired of you wasting my and the rest of your userbase's time, Putt. Answer the fucking question.

Dang... could you somehow change the username to something like “deleted-account-1234” without actually removing the content that they posted?

I am glad I don't drink coffee

@BlackRifleCoffee Cease your malarkey at this moment or I will blow up your locations and kill every one of you. Full stop. Only warning.

Append "Sucks" to the name of anyone who requests the takedown. That should be enough to make it legal.

CONSIDER THAT ACCOUNT CANCELED! fuck those gay faggots. I'm going to send them an email as well. Probably 10 what a bunch of queers.

Well, shit. I assumed they were cool. I guess not.

It's a spurious trademark claim. Tell them to go fuck themselves.

I'm sorry putt, this sucks and I feel bad that this kind of thing is happening to you/us. I wish I had an answer that would solve it but I don't.

We do post BRCC vids every now and then, maybe we should stop that too.

Well if they wanted to make sure we all NEVER buy their products, then they have succeeded. I will make sure my family and friends all know not to buy Black Rifle Coffee due to all the rat feces in their product.

Well, fuck BRCC. Never buying their shit again.

"We're here on the front lines of a breaking news story about a huge Trademark infringement case involving the poor, innocent coffee company know as "Black Rifle Coffee Company" and an evil, very bad, racist, xenophobic, islamophobic, anti-Semitic, misogynistic, right-wing, homophobic containment board known as Voat.co".

"The evil members of this group seem to have responded with vitriolic legal support at the request of the founder named PuffItOut...or something... wait... I'm getting an update... Putt! PuttItOut! PuttItOut is, according to reliable sources here at CNN, the new owner of Voat.co having stolen the site from the previous owner named Echo.. wait... Akko in some kind of nefarious business coup."

"Ayyy... Teee... Kay... Ohhh..."

"OK, thank you, Anderson. Atko... Sounds like he was named after an attack company..."

"It looks like this is the end for that evil site. We will keep you all informed as this story develops. Back to you, Shahria."

as another user has stated, this is an abused of the dmca. they are attempting to conflate copyright law and trademark law. you could simply sue for decision. you would win.

Change the DMCA'd username or sub to "DMCA Removed" and link the username to the DMCA notice.

This is pretty infuriating. Putt makes a great point that there are rules and laws we must abide by but in the other hand, I can certainly see why a company like BRCC wouldn't want to be associated with us.

There is a lot of what the general public considers hate going on here but they have a company to run. They cant be associated with people like us who have no problem naming the jew and calling Trump out on his bullshit.

We are in the political minority by a huge margin.

I trust Putt will do whatever is in the best interests of Voat. As for BRCC, I dont really give a shit what they do next. Hopefully it can be resolved amicably but I wont hold my breath. They have face to save.

Thanks voat Angel, I knew you'd bring us great things!

I suggest acting immediately to do all that is in your power to remove the offending account from voat.com as written in the DMCA. As the written complaint does not reference voat.co I'm not sure why this is being posted here.

About these DMCA violations, not every DMCA is going to be the same. A username like cocacola is different than cocacolasucks. You're gonna have to square that away now.

You might want to reserve DMCA- as a username and all numbers following it now so that when you get letters you can at least change the usernames later transparently.

What about changing the name on the account to something else? Like "NotNiggerGunPoopWaterIncorperated"?

They're on Amazon so we could easily launch a negative review campaign against them if this gets serious.

No. I won't be assisting you with censorship. My adivice? Make it impossible to do(ghost all the data), impossible to identify, and out of US corporate purview. IE move your infrastructure to Switzerland outside the 14 eyes agreements.

Can you confirm the DMCA actually came from Black Rifle Coffee?

If not, this may be an attempt to smear them while turning Voat against a veteran-owned business.

From this point on expect DMCA to be the new favored weapon for censoring and destroying the user base.

Rename the account to DMCA-Takedown-{unique-id}, done.

Can we start a blue check mark system? ✅ /s

Nigger coffee can go fuck themselves. Its time to goycott

BlackRifleNiggerDickRimJobCockSuckerCoffeeCo. Because we goats don't like black people or black coffee.

Just rewrite the database username to 'BlackCuntCoffeeCo'

I find it interesting that the idea of this was likely to disassociate the name of their company with Voat but the result is that this post will be highly rated and more well visited making it more likely to show up in searches drawing more attention to their actions regarding the DMCA

Maybe have a bot that flags users with certain keywords in their name for review?

@puttitout, just rename the username in the database and tell us that you did so. That's transparent and doesn't delete any content.

/u/notBlackRifleCoffeeCo would be parody and not subject to DMCA in any case.

Could you his name just be changed?

As already pointed out, DMCA is a copyright law, meant to deal with claims to copyright. There are penalties listed in the DMCA for asserting improper claims under the DMCA (e.g., to assert trademark rights). See the relevant article regarding potential section 512(f) liability for asserting trademark rights using the DMCA here: Using a DMCA takedown notice to assert a trademark claim may lead to section 512(f) liability

There is no claim to copyright in this case, so this is very arguably a material misrepresentation with regards to copyright infringement as discussed in the article. Trademarks were not meant to be streamlined in enforcement using the DMCA.

@ChiComs @TheBuddha

You guys are both speaking the correct language here just making sure you have seen each others answers in case you can help each other.

https://voat.co/v/Voat/2959815/15994507 / https://voat.co/v/Voat/2959815/15994961

Sounds fair. I noticed Black Rifle on the boards of an NHL hockey game this week. They are coming up. The order makes sense.

I am very understanding. - yes we are free speech but some rules of course are necessary. Doxxing child porn and trademark infringement - these are a legitimate reasons. Do what you need to do Putt.

You got nothing to worry about. The letter asks for it to be removed from voat.com not this website voat.co. I'm sure it's a misunderstanding.

Fuckem in the ass with that one.

Make it public as you did so we can rub shit in their face and boycott them if need be.

Evan Hafer is the CEO.
I'd try [email protected], or evan.hafer, or ehafer.
Hard to find much third-party bio on the net, though.

You may be dealing with their (potentially a-hole) lawyers or legal policy rather than truly the company itself. So, maybe this aggressive strategy is fully endorsed by the company, maybe not.

I wrote them an email pretty much saying back the fuck off or I will stop drinking your coffee, but in a more professional manner. The auto response indicated a higher than normal email volume. Hit up their inbox.

Can you make all the posts associated with the account go anon? That removes all mention of the name on any posts. Don't know about the user profile page thought.

Can you just change the name on the account? The account formerly known as BRCC?

can the account name be changed? or would that not work?

woah, imagine faggots using other copyrighted usernames and DMCA flooding this place

Can't you just rename the account?

I listen to some radio shows and podcasts supported by black rifle coffee.

I'm going to stop my coffee subscription from them because of their actions towards this site.

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Edit the name on the account? Change it to something like "BlackRifleCoffeeUnofficialAcct." Or perhaps add a tag of some kind that denotes the account as not being affiliated with the company?

Other ideas: Change the color of the name text to match whatever background it appears on. The name and account is still there, but invisible to the eye.

Also, how hard can it be to simply delete it?

I insist you delete all of my comments, too.

Just change the name slightly to something like @BlackCoffeeRifleCo

Fuck them and their DMCA. Tell them to get bent. We don't have to satisfy anything from these faggots. It's not up to you to police people's usernames. I really don't think that would even qualify as protected content.

All I know for sure is that the voat boycott of this coffee company and anything they promote needs to be on. Fuck these fucking assholes.

Fuck 'em.

Fuck 'em right in the ear.

Is there a way to leave the comments up, but change the account name to reflect that a DMCA request was made?

Thanks for the transparency as always. We have always understood that this website would operate within the confines of the law and this is understandable given the circumstances. I second the 'DMCA_GHOST####' option with a table to get more info on the missing post and the reason for the takedown.

Easier said than done though says you!

They look fairly "woke" from reading their stuff. Maybe their legal counsel works for Zuckerberg. "The store sells prepared coffee, bagged coffee (both ground and beans) and Black Rifle Company gear. They also give discounts to active duty military, veterans and law enforcement (pretty sure the lefties at Starbucks don't do that). The company in general supports America and its constitution (again, lacking in Starbucks' business plan)."

Unfortunately, BRC has to do this because of how trademark law in the US is written. Basically, trademark law demands that if you want to keep your trademark, you must challenge its infringement during any and all circumstances, no matter how frivolous it may seem. If you don't, your trademark can be revoked. The law literally forces companies to aggressively pursue any infringement of their trademark, even if they don't really care about it. We saw a textbook example of this during the Elder Scrolls/Scrolls incident. A few years ago Mojang published a game called Scrolls and were subsequently sued by Bethesda for it (This was before they went neoliberal BTW). They sued them because they were worried that the similarity between the names of their games would cause them to lose their "Elder Scrolls" trademark. They didn't actually care that Mojang called their game Scrolls. They were just worried that they might lose their trademark. After Bethesda lost the case they added the item "Notched pickaxe" into Elder Scrolls V to show Notch that there were no hard feelings between the two companies. It's a bullshit law, designed to give lawyers more work, but that's what companies these days have to deal with. Yes, BRC could've handled the situation better, but that wouldn't change anything either.

Send them a cease & desist explaining that voat is run as a safe space for niggers and their company does not have a monopoly on the word "black", however their company name is racist and if they don't change it we're going to send our kike lawyers after them.

Write a program to remove the text and put in place this DMCA reference number, and change the username to a random code, or something. If it has to be done, it has to be done...

Report each DMCA to the users with a sticky so people can see the infringing content and make copies before it is removed, so it is not actually gone down the memory hole.

Perhaps the real answer is to rewrite the code so that you can't "spez" users comments without changing an original one way Hash of the comment itself, so people know it was edited without permission by the author, and that's how it works.

Got to wonder if Voat's new angel is BlackRifleCoffeeCo. Who is Voat's knew angel Putt? Is is Whiz or Vados or BlackRifleCoffeeCo?

Why not just change the account name to [Name Redacted Acct 123456] and add some information about why to the hover information?

You could do the same with posts (although that's much worse from a freedom of speech perspective). I'd say do what you have to do, but just don't try to hide the censorship. Replacing the post with [Deleted due to DMCA] would at least let us know why it's gone.

That is the gayest DMCA request I have ever heard. Just a username and they're fagging out.

Now to figure out how to do this.

If you guys have any ideas on how we can satisfy DMCA requests like this and still log that they occurred, I’m all ears. These situations are likely to only increase.

Are all trademarks going to be considered before someone creates a username? What about companies that have created their trademark after a username was already created? A username is not an identity, and the problem with catering with this request is that users of this site will now to assume the Owners of the website and Moderators of subverses are taking the responsibility of confirming the identity of ever user and that they have the legal authority to use that name, and that these laws and rules are actually keeping the internet safe.
However, in reality, it is impossible to stop people from pretending to be other people and immature internet users need to learn to be safe on their own, and not rely on government and individual websites to police the internet.

If you don't know that a guy with the username Bill Gates might not actually be Bill Gates, is it up to someone else to make sure you are not fooled, or mistaken? Is the internet supposed to be used with kid gloves?

I understand the comapny’s request, but unless the account representatives itself as a member of the company (which at this point, would be hard to find out if it was an employee or ex-employee) wouldn’t it fit under tribute or parody.

As well, osnt the user protected under the first admendment as well? They can ask for a cease-and-disest, which they got when the user took down their account.

The only thing I could suggest is when an account is deleted, they name is changed to [deleted] a DMCA is posted like this but the posted material stays. That is the only way the integrity of the VOAT can be maintained and satisfied some uppity, thing-wearing CEO.

I would look more into trademark and copyright law. It is my understanding that they are very specific what they cover and BRCC is overreaching the extend of the law with their request that ALL information is removed.

You're a faggot putt. You censor the spech of newcumers cause they are not like you.

Start spreading this, time for people who were supporting them because of American values to stop. I actually feel like the CEO and who ever came up with the business plan was trying to prey on us rather than holding these values. I don't like that one bit and their coffee is fucking expensive as fuck because they know white people will support them.

Bring it down.

what about changing the user name that posted so it will no longer Google search as @BlackRifleCoffeeCo change the user to @Spez

Lol there is no real freedom anymore. Company or not, if the name is inactive and banned unless the comapny wants to use it, that should satisfy the company. Now Im just going to go out and talk shit about them. I hate companies like this.

Black rifle company eats dicks? Would that be an OK username?

Remove any profile and/or any/all references to Black Rifle Coffee Company, then block or restrict the entry(s) and images(s) referencing the same from any future incursion into the Database or Board.

I'm their target customer and have spent stupid amounts of money for gifts at @BlackRifleCoffeeCo.

So disappointed for several reasons. Everyone loves coffee and the people I purchase for love the 2nd- it was a win win.

Now I have to find another place to purchase gifts for my extremely large extended family. Am also going to have to backtrack on social media and explain to everyone why we have to change coffee brands....again. Sigh.

Let me see if I understand this correctly. I'd ask via PM but I don't think adding to your stuffed inbox is the best solution.

They are using DMCA to assert trademark infringement? If so, I am willing to throw a few lawyer hours at it. I'm not sure DMCA covers trademark and this may open them to a counter suit for misrepresentation. I'd have to have someone check, as I am not a lawyer.

Hope they enjoy never getting my business. What a bunch of pricks. Hey BRCC, suck on my nuts.

Doesn't Black Rifle Company use Amazon for shipping and purchase processing? Amazon sucks big time. So when I saw the connection I decided to never buy from BRC. Bezos is a Trump-hater so it is ironic that BRC tries to be a patriot but uses services from Bezos' Amazon.

If the (Ghosted) accounts are all posted in a specific subverse /v/GhostedGoats with a brief explanation, then I don't see a problem at all.

Just make it a 100% public process for all to see.

Can you make a bot to add a signature to each of the user's post that says "this account has no affiliation with Black Rifle Coffee company (r) and these posts do not reflect the company's policies or values." Or some legal bs like that?

FUCK YOUR SHIT WEBSITE! BUNCH OF CRYBABY NAAAAAZIS IS WHAT YOU ARE!

Just slightly change the old user name

That's a solid move, alienate a group of people that not only are your target consumers but value loyalty, not being a fussy bitch and have a tradition of voting with their wallet. This move is losing more money than some old forgotten account ever was.

What if he did this in order to setup the situation for a DMCA takedown request? Thanks for posting that link it gives me a clearer feeling on this motherfucker. Does not seem like a good dude to me.

17 U.S. Code § 512 - Limitations on liability relating to material online

(j)Injunctions —The following rules shall apply in the case of any application for an injunction under section 502 against a service provider that is not subject to monetary remedies under this section:

(1) Scope of relief.—

(B) If the service provider qualifies for the limitation on remedies described in subsection (a), the court may only grant injunctive relief in one or both of the following forms:

(i) An order restraining the service provider from providing access to a subscriber or account holder of the service provider’s system or network who is using the provider’s service to engage in infringing activity and is identified in the order, by terminating the accounts of the subscriber or account holder that are specified in the order.

I am not a lawyer, but that reads like as long as you lock the account you are covered from monetary damages.

Their coffee is shit anyways. Over roasted, burnt-as-fuck, and evidently a bit salty. Its coffee for people who REALLY like coffee, otherwise no one would drink the shit.

What if we all make BlackRifleCoffeeCo accounts now? Will they make us all delete our accounts?

I think this claim might fall into the bogus territory.

You may want to add a username as "first come first serve" policy.

With trademarks, they would have to prove that a casual observer would be confused among other things.

The burden of proof is on black rifle company to prove that the username caused confusion for their customers or generally misrepresented their company.

Because I am an asshole, I would make them properly complete the DMCA request and give the URLs and dates where this user falsely claimed to be a representative of company or show that the existence of this username has deprived them of profit.

They have to provide you proof. Never forget that.

And don't waste you time unless they actually "file" a DMCA. Many times they don't.

@Gabara is a kike that drinks folgers

Sorry to hear that - it maybe that a lawyer advised them they have to defend their trademark or they may have some legal responsibility - unless they're just dicks.

Perhaps mod the bio, or prefix the username and upon login attempt let the user know the DCMA issue, they can always create a new account.

Perhaps if everyone asks the question (politely) they might respond - it's a secretaries job to give the brush off.

General Questions: [email protected] Order Support: [email protected] Coffee Club Support: [email protected]

DMCA from Black Rifle Coffee Company®

Hi, Daniel Hollaway - VP Marketing at Black Rifle Coffee Company here!

I'm sorry about the confusion we've put you through here. It never was our intention to upset our loyal coffee drinking fans! We're working on a brand re-alignment to more closely reflect our core values, as a organization and family. In keeping with that, we're changing our official Voat account to @NiggerRifleCoffeeCo. Please, direct any questions, comments or concerns you may have to our offical Voat account, and keep enjoying our products!

You can probably rename the account to 'NOT_BLACKRIFLECO'. Not sure how your code works, but if you register the above name, and Crtl+H that should satisfy.

If they had issue with specific posts, those would probably need to me manually removed or altered.

First, thank you for letting us know. Second, I don't have any better suggestions than those I have already read in the comments. Third, I do however have many questions that come to mind reading this. Most important question is what the intention is behind the request, is it simply as it appears or is this part of a greater (((agenda)))?

How to register our displeasure with Black Rifle Coffee Company?

They should thank the guy, honestly. I had never heard of the company before that account.

How about you give those assholes the finger, and off to resolve the matter by fucking their mums.

Haha, I remember that post. Even @UltraRibbed stepped in to shill up the joint

I would think for everyone's sake and maintaining the integrity of Voat as a free speech platform this can go one of two ways:

1. Keep trying to get a hold of the boss and explain the situation. Chances are it was a peon down the chain doing their job and they probably offered a half baked explanation of the situation to the boss before receiving the OK to proceed. Once they are aware of the situation and the actions taken thus far they will likely simmer down and withdraw.

2. Slap them across the face with the US constitution and lawyer up.

But what do I know. I'm not a lawyer or a business owner.

Don't worry. We'll talk to them and see what comes up. Goats, here's their public contact info:

General Questions:

[email protected]

Order Support:

[email protected]

Coffee Club Support:

[email protected]

Still, I couldn't find a phone number... but maybe these guys would know?

https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/collections/partner-products

Voat and BRCC user here. (I think I found BRCC on Voat, in fact.)

Anyhow, can you change the user name to remove the offending trademark? It doesn't seem to have any postings whatsoever, and the DCMA is really about the profile at the URL.

For that matter, it seems that the complaint would be resolved with a quick mod_rewrite. (Or the equivalent for whatever web server you are actually using.) Just return a 404.

From a policy standpoint, there are a bunch of companies that would be happy to sue for similar events. Harley-Davidson and Disney come to mind. So you should probably have a TRADEMARK removal mechanism in any event. Not knowing your schema, I assume that you are using real keys, so the user name would need to be modified globally in order to prevent orphan records. PITA, yes, but again, if IP lawyers have your in their sights, you will eventually need to build some trademark-killer tools and/or scripts.

And if the user name is an attribute instead of a key, then just change the string. I propose s/BlackRifleCoffeeCo/TrademarkTroll001.

REFUSE AND OBJECT! Make them PROVE YOU ARE MAKING MONEY via stolen COPYRIGHTED materials and tradedress,

REFUSE!

They will NOT WIN!

Also... get the hell off of CloudFlare so that you can have real properly encrypted https streams!

I guess it's possible but it seems oddly specific.

I think we should just erase the whole internet and start over fresh.

hmmm i considered buying coffee from them.... must consider moar now

Run a db op to change the name, but not delete the account. Something like "DMCAaccount1".

Since you've come here and explained to us and you have a legal obligation to give a best effort compliance, go all spez on that shit. We know, you did due diligence and let us know. That means a lot and thank you.

it appears this account was not affiliated with Black Rifle Coffee Company

Nuke it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure.

If I make an account called @Apple or @Nintendo, but never make any claim or implication to represent the company, and only act like a random user, perhaps a fanboy, could they DMCA to have my account expunged?

I'm not a legal expert, but I find this rather odd. Would it not fall under fair use or something similar?

I know that there have been many cases of major companies forgetting to renew domains and having someone steal them. Even Microsoft had to resort to buying the domain back from the "thief" rather than leaning on legal means.

If DMCA does not apply to domains, how can it apply to account names? Especially without any implied or explicit claims of association?

Ive tried their coffee. Its shit.

Object, always. Every single time. (In this case, also mention that the account already voluntarily removed material in question.)

Have a standard template for objection.

Affirmative Defense #1: They did not "consider" Fair Use applicability before sending the notice. Black Rifle Coffee Company failed to actually consider whether this qualified as fair use or not and, instead, had a knee jerk reaction at seeing a close facsimile, but not exact replication, of their company name. Instead, they had a "knee jerk" reaction.

Affirmative Defense #2: The account was not a misrepresentation, but merely a similar username and usernames are not copyrighted.

Affirmative Defense #3: The account did not post any infringing material.

Affirmative Defense#4: Since Black Rifle Coffee Company did not take into consideration legally required issues before sending the DMCA, the DMCA notice they initiated was, ITSELF, A MISREPRESENTATION, and therefore, Voat is entitled to tany legal fees that arise from their misrepresentation of the issue.

A copyright holder who pays lip service to the consideration of fair use by claiming it formed a good faith belief when there is evidence to the contrary is still subject to Section 512(f) liability.

If you are okay with deleting the content but you want a log for transparency, you could do what google does and use ChillingEffects (now Lumen) to keep a record that the request was made and fulfilled, while actually wiping the data from voat. You could also archive it using any of the several tools or websites out there. You could probably put some sort of “DMCA takedown” command in the code that automatically archives it somewhere else when something is deleted if you are worried about the ability to delete or modify things without a record.

I just appreciate this has been dragged into the open like this.

Maybe someday they will realize how much pointless abuse of DMCA hurts their brand.

Is @NiggerRifleCoffeeCo taken yet?

I don't trust their image portrayal anyway. Over-the-top satire is a pretty good indicator of deception.

And the best part is that we will realize that some of our local cafes already bother to ship beans to our towns and roast them up fresh for us. Dont amazon your goddamn foodstuffs. Go out and support local business.

If they don't want to talk with you, then fuck them. As simple as it gets.

Yea but it's still stupid, I could literally go on any internet forum with that username and do the same stuff. In fact...that might not be a bad idea.

Uh...you own the database. Change the username where ever it's mentioned.

Can you simply change the name of the user? It would seem if in the user table, they are given an id, then everywhere else it could just look up on that user table. Not sure how the db is designed however.

Let them know how you feel.

[email protected] [email protected] [email protected]

I used to think highly of this company, Even bought there coffee a few times. Probably not anymore though, Instead, I'll give my cash to a company thats not ran by assholes.

For user name, "Deleted per DMCA request." and in the comment box below the name, delete the information, and put in a link to the DMCA take down page you was talking about. Would there be some type of trouble for then hosting all of the actual users postings and deleted data/comments on another board that isn't shown unless searched? Like an obvious "secret" board

well this is gonna backfire in their face good job retards

Can you just change the username to whiteRifleCoffeeco?

Wait, so looking at the profile, it has listed no comments and no submissions. So does that mean any prior comments/subs were removed, or do they still exist and are credited to 'deleted'? In either case, doesn't that indicate there's no issue? Particularly in light of the length of time since the account's deletion?

It may be technically unfeasible, but you could replace all instances of offending content with something indicating it was changed to comply with a DMCA request. You could number them some way like DMCA#1, DMCA#2, etc. Then you could have a list to the DMCA requests which would be likewise numbered. While it wouldn’t completely make it impossible to show you were pulling a spez, it would make it less likely and give it some integrity along with a record.

How the hell is VOAT supposed to be held responsible for some asshole registering a copyrighted or trademarked name as a user on an open forum?

Deleting / Banning the account should be all that's required by law. This could be a huge can of worms.