Yeah... MY POST TO VOAT / what, you think I took the photo in Congressional Hearings ?
You didn't discover it. Some anon did months ago. You just posted it to Voat.
Look at this pathetic moderator of 7 subs and his sad 3 day smear campaign on me.
Anyone reading my posts might use the word "sad", but not to describe me.
I'm not going anywhere faggot and this nigger jump you're running here is going to fall flatter than your OBAMA MOLOCH LARP...
I don't care if it's real or not. Your "debunking" of it was embarrassing for anyone with an ounce of integrity.
Since you still won't understand what I mean, let me say it in a different way:
That photo might be fake, but you were too stupid to prove it fake, and you claimed to be a PHOTOSHOP EXPERT when the most likely explanation now is that it wasn't BO, but someone else. You still haven't answered my extremely reasonable questions about photoshop, that an expert should be able to spell out for everyone.
This cunt is beginning to look like Millennial Falcon with a pussy between his legs.
That's really funny now that you're on the hook for explaining why you being a photoshop expert has anything to do with that image.
Wow... we may have to get this shitbag removed, just like MFer… He clearly is stepping over the line.
By doing what? What moderator thing did I do that would cause me to be removed? That sounds a lot like the "impeach Trump" crowd, to me.
Or... is this just MFer under an ALT ?? who knows about this site anymore...
You just keep going after making such embarrassing statements. It's so weird that you'd say such embarrassingly-easy-to-refute things, then go in a tirade attacking whomever is against you.
This is what OWi has in response to anyone holding him to his words. I asked him a very simple question in my post, and he has yet to respond. I'll copy the text here:
Since you are a photoshop expert, perhaps you could explain why this shows the image to be unlikely tampered with. How are these images wrong? What steps can we take with the original image on our own copies of photoshop in order to find out how this image is shopped?
Maybe it'll help if you compare it to this photo, which appears to show tampering, and tell us what's really going on here?
Don't keep bringing my name into this pissing match. Yeah, Ian stirs up shit. I stir up shit. We all stir up shit. We are "shit stirrers" because we bring up uncomfortable truths. Are we right 100% of the time? Hell no.
When I stir up shit, it's for a very specific reason. Suffice it to say I don't do anything unintentionally.
These subs are LOADED with paid disinformation specialists. They work solo and they work in tandem, with and w/o -alts. Most recently, the shills have adopted the cry baby tactic - they toned down the rhetoric for a few weeks and now they are applying righteous indignation to their complaints about mods and contributors.
For Crensch, Kevdude, and any other owners who are NOT regular contributors to this (or related) subs, I advise you to spend a month or three reading and reading and reading and learning about Pizzagate, Q, and related-topics, before passing judgment.
I know y'all think you are smart, but unless you are BALLS DEEP in Pizzagate, you really don't know what is going on, who the players are, and the TTPs of the shills.
I know y'all think you are smart, but unless you are BALLS DEEP in Pizzagate, you really don't know what is going on, who the players are, and the TTPs of the shills.
Did you know that some people don't have to be balls-deep in anything to point out inconsistencies and posting patterns of users like OWi?
Did you know that all he posts is regurgitated bullshit from 8ch, and the only original content he seems capable of submitting is attacks on anyone questioning why his being an expert on photoshop makes that image fake? (and other similarly absurd claims of his)
Did you know that I hadn't given 1.5 seconds thought about your existence until 10 minutes ago and it REALLY sounds like you are doing your best to discredit a specific user because you don't like him and/or his post?
Let me ask the obvious question: Given the large amount of BS which gets posted on the 3 pertinent subs, which you say nothing about, why would you choose an authentic photo of a sitting member of the US Congress wearing a pedo symbol for jewelry, confirmed by Q, to make your claim?
Occam would say that you are doing your best to discredit truth. WHo gives a flying rat's asshole if it was posted elsewhere previously? 90% of what gets posted is regurgitated.
Our job here is to do our best to authenticate and add context to the nonsensical content posted on the Chans.
Again - Why are you fighting this OP so hard in a sub you otherwise do not participate in?
Did you know that I hadn't given 1.5 seconds thought about your existence until 10 minutes ago and it REALLY sounds like you are doing your best to discredit a specific user because you don't like him and/or his post?
I'm sorry to bring both of you into this, but I think we all know this user is lying.
BS21, I'll post proof of your lie if I have to. The users above saw what I wrote to you, and their copies will be dated before your own if they present screenshots.
Try lying to me again.
Let me ask the obvious question: Given the large amount of BS which gets posted on the 3 pertinent subs, which you say nothing about, why would you choose an authentic photo of a sitting member of the US Congress wearing a pedo symbol for jewelry, confirmed by Q, to make your claim?
Do you even read what you write?
OWi claimed Q acknowledged him, and pinged me directly here. Why wouldn't I be here refuting his lies?
Occam would say that you are doing your best to discredit truth. WHo gives a flying rat's asshole if it was posted elsewhere previously? 90% of what gets posted is regurgitated.
He's taking credit for it. He's calling himself a good researcher. Researchers aren't good because they regurgitate, they're good because they come up with information that was not previously known.
Our job here is to do our best to authenticate and add context to the nonsensical content posted on the Chans.
Then ask ian why his photoshop skills mattered in the debunking of that photo.
Again - Why are you fighting this OP so hard in a sub you otherwise do not participate in?
Did you knot see where I was pinged here? Did you not see where my points were completely reasonable?
I'm starting to wonder about you, and I don't think anyone reading this would think I'm alone in that.
You just like arguing for the sake of arguing. OWI original post was nothing but a link to 8CH. I'm still at a loss how you made a leap from that OP to your current position.
Everything else you commented is nothing but circuitous, argumentative BS designed to obfuscate. I'm not even sure what you are trying to glean at this point.
I can't comment on the PS issue. That's between you and him.
"Proof of my lie"....what lie? It now looks like you are tossing accusations out like a Palestinian tossing candy after a suicide bombing.
And now you're bringing in Vindicator and Think-?
You get Shitstirrer of the Week award. (sorry, you aren't good enough to qualify for the -of the Month award).
Does BS21's description ever accurately describe anything I post? What about here? Why does he think he can comment on what my words were "designed" to do? In my opinion, BS21 has a dog in this fight that he hasn't disclosed.
I'm not even sure what you are trying to glean at this point.
I've been nothing but exactly clear this entire time. What part do you not understand?
I can't comment on the PS issue. That's between you and him.
Fair enough.
"Proof of my lie"....what lie? It now looks like you are tossing accusations out like a Palestinian tossing candy after a suicide bombing.
Did you know that I hadn't given 1.5 seconds thought about your existence until 10 minutes ago
You spent far longer on that in your response to my PM to you about your pathetic PG post that you caused Vindicator and think- headaches over.
And now you're bringing in Vindicator and Think-?
They can prove that you lied. They know that your words there are a lie.
You get Shitstirrer of the Week award. (sorry, you aren't good enough to qualify for the -of the Month award).
Playing this off as some kind of game in order to look snarky.
Does anyone buy this kind of wannabe mic-drop horseshit anymore?
YOU ARE BUSTED. I HAVE PM'S WHERE I TOLD YOU THIS AND YOU SAID "FUCK YOU" TO ME AND TOOK THEIR SIDE! You are complicit. YOU KNEW. YOU FUCKING KNEW. I told your ass. You have harbored these fucking jews
You can be as defiant as you want. I got your ass. You knew! You've been okay with OWI, Blacksmith21, Dooob and Millennial Vulcans behavior up until this point. Now that ya'll are busted as larpers and trying to take credit for others work, Now its "oi vey boo hoo have pity on me".
I think my blacksmith means is that you guys would defend me even if I'm wrong. And I know for a fact that you guys would bust my balls if you thought I was wrong.
I'd be on your shit if I thought you were wrong and I damn sure know you would be on mine. You aren't wrong about what's going on here. Of course he would claim some bogus shit like he is. The rat is cornered
I've had you on <block> for months because you're a shill. I don't give two fucks about shills.
Congratulations, you just keep on shitting yourself. Block me, call me shill or pickle, call me whatever you like. It doesn't change the fact that I have already seen the kind of character inside you.
If you must have your last words to feed your male ego, by all means have your last words.
You don't answer legitimate questions about your words, it seems. You won't even answer what moderator tool I misused that makes you want to have me removed.
You are really trying to turn this into Reddit, aren't you?
More emotive outrage rhetoric. Do you think something like this convinces anyone? Well, maybe in your long-winded walls of garbage that you like to post, but look at what happens when I break down your words.
1 ) These people stacking up at the border ARE NOT Immigrants, they are Foreign Nationals. They do not have the right to break our laws and enter into our country illegally. They do not have Diplomatic Status and they are subject to ALL our laws, just like every American citizen. Any American who attempts to illegally breach a border or unlawfully enter into another country will be arrested and deported immediately. They will be banned or forever restricted from entering into that country ( or other countries ) in the future. Their passports ( if they have one ) will be revoked by our own State Department and they will be fined and possibly imprisoned.
2 ) Half the minor children that make it to the Southern Border are UNACCOMPANIED by their actual parents. That means they are more than likely victims of human trafficking, not victims of our laws. It would be morally irresponsible to turn these children loose in our country and subject them to the vast and predatory network of human trafficking.
3 ) The danger and threat to these children infinitely decreases the minute they are picked up by DHS, ICE and Border Patrol. The are protected from being victimized by Coyotes and traffickers. They are no longer subject to the harsh elements nor in danger of starvation or dehydration. They are fed, given shelter and water, blankets and a place to sleep while their status is determined. Almost none of these foreign nationals have documentation and it makes for an extremely complicated process of finding out who they are, their country of origin, and whether they are being trafficked. The delays are not cruelty and they are not being held a single day longer than they need to. They are not being incarcerated, they are being detained. ( I actually saw bleeding heart news story on MSNBC with a narrative about the inhumanity the poor children were suffering with an accompanying video of kids shooting pool and playing video games on a big screen TV. Probably the kids first ever experience with such horrible human cruelty. o_0)
4 ) Fast and Furious was more than just handing guns to Drug Cartels. That narrative lacks the central truth about Drug Cartels: THEY ARE HUMAN/SEX TRAFFICKERS, TOO!! The Obama/Clinton State Department was running guns deep into Central America, including Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. They were handing the guns directly to Drug/Human trafficking Cartels in a deliberate effort to destabilize those countries and facilitate human trafficking. Sound familiar? It should, because they did the same thing in Libya, Syria, Mogadishu, Liberia, Congo, and at least 10 other nations. This is the PLAN. Force refugees North to Europe and the United States and prey upon them every step of their journey. This is why you see mostly men in the massive wave that finally arrives at our ports and borders. The women and children have been picked like ripe fruit and swept into sex trafficking and slavery.
5 ) Lawmakers don't give two shits about this contrived and created problem. The President is the only person calling for a WALL and for Congress to act towards a solution. Democrats and Republicans alike are following the disingenuous narrative being laid out by the Orwellian MSM: 'Trump is destroying Families!! Oh, the humanity!!' <BARF> Human trafficking is big business and donors to both partiers are profiting enormously over the status quo. Politicians don't want a solution. They want a distraction to keep the train heading down the tracks.
Stating this for what reason? People ARE waking up. What's your point? That you somehow had something to do with it? All you do is regurgitate 8ch stuff here, and make long-winded posts where you try to take credit for what is already happening.
Tell me, does any of the other stuff you've written below explain how being a photoshop expert allows you to call that image fake? Or is all of the text just you copying what has been reported elsewhere, and typing it up here for internet points?
Do you type long-winded things like that in order to make it seem like you have a lot to say, and a lot to contribute? You could have just linked the articles that say basically the same thing, but without your editorializing.
Hell, another user could post all of those articles, and wouldn't harass other users, or break the rules of the subverses they posted them in constantly.
FWIW - I'm pretty confident I am not the only contributor on this sub who spends ZERO time on Reddit and the Chans.
Personally, I appreciate salient reposts from those subs here. Otherwise, I have to wait until they percolate up to the surface.
Also, OWI has never attempted to plagiarize any post to my knowledge. Who cares if he forgot the citation. I'm pretty sure any Pizzagater worth his weight in _________ has seen that photo and knows OWI isn't the content source.
What's next? Are you going to start enforcing Turabian and APA?
FWIW - I'm pretty confident I am not the only contributor on this sub who spends ZERO time on Reddit and the Chans.
That's fine. Think you could find someone to post stuff from there to here that isn't as intellectually vapid and/or as compromised as ian?
Personally, I appreciate salient reposts from those subs here. Otherwise, I have to wait until they percolate up to the surface.
I'm sure someone else would happily step up that wouldn't act like doing so makes him a top researcher.
Also, OWI has never attempted to plagiarize any post to my knowledge. Who cares if he forgot the citation. I'm pretty sure any Pizzagater worth his weight in _________ has seen that photo and knows OWI isn't the content source.
He sure takes credit for that sheila jackson photo. Why should I think he hasn't done that elsewhere? Why should I think that's not his modus operandi?
What's next? Are you going to start enforcing Turabian and APA?
Am I enforcing anything? What have I done as a mod here? When will OWi answer my extremely reasonable photoshop question?
And why is it that you asked me to:
Don't keep bringing my name into this pissing match.
You tagged me twice so I feel obliged. FWIW, I don't have an innate urge to argue with anyone, but I also don't back down.
I'm not seeing anything which would indicate that OWi laid claim to being the origin of that photo. I would be the absolute first person to call out anyone, I mean ANYONE, who would attempt to pass off a post as their own if I could prove otherwise.
FWIW, I don't have an innate urge to argue with anyone, but I also don't back down.
Maybe, and yes, you do.
I'm not seeing anything which would indicate that OWi laid claim to being the origin of that photo.
Did you read OP?
Let me help:
Mod @Crensch Calling Me a 'NIGGER-TIER' User on Voat in Smear Campaign in 3 Subs / QAnon Just Posted My Sheila Jackson Lee Pedo Triangle Ring Pic / Thanks Q !!! XD
Do you see something fishy there? Something that doesn't match with your characterization of his words?
I would be the absolute first person to call out anyone, I mean ANYONE, who would attempt to pass off a post as their own if I could prove otherwise.
It's funny how you can't establish your credibility as a man of substance. What's the matter Crensch? Did you dox yourself and some boogey man sent you hate mail?
Lie. I destroyed you in a DM that @Vindicator and @think- were copied on. You removed a post because of it; a post you'd fought for over a day to keep up otherwise.
Occam would say that you are doing your best to discredit truth.
From the link above.
What truth? You claim I'm trying to discredit truth. What truth? Not quite a lie, but dishonest, surely.
Again - Why are you fighting this OP so hard in a sub you otherwise do not participate in?
Also in the link above - acting like I had no business being there, and that I shouldn't respond when I'm pinged in the submission specifically. Not a lie, per-se, but really REALLY shows either a deep, disturbing stupidity, or dishonesty. You choose.
Outright lie. You deleted a post that you wouldn't have otherwise deleted because of my DM to you. Are you saying a man not of substance did that to you?
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Crensch ago
YOUR Sheila Jackson Lee Pedo Tringale Ring Pic from... wait for it... 8ch.net.
You reposted 8ch material here. You rode someone else's wave, and now you're taking credit for it since you've been exposed.
@Blacksmith21 @bopper @valk2 @Brizznazz
OWi's only real contributions are posting others' work here. Watch what he does when there's a narrative he wants buried.
Oh_Well_ian ago
Yeah... MY POST TO VOAT / what, you think I took the photo in Congressional Hearings ?
Look at this pathetic moderator of 7 subs and his sad 3 day smear campaign on me.
I'm not going anywhere faggot and this nigger jump you're running here is going to fall flatter than your OBAMA MOLOCH LARP...
This cunt is beginning to look like Millennial Falcon with a pussy between his legs.
Wow... may have to get this shitbag removed, just like MFer… He clearly is stepping over the line.
Crensch ago
You didn't discover it. Some anon did months ago. You just posted it to Voat.
Anyone reading my posts might use the word "sad", but not to describe me.
I don't care if it's real or not. Your "debunking" of it was embarrassing for anyone with an ounce of integrity.
Since you still won't understand what I mean, let me say it in a different way:
That photo might be fake, but you were too stupid to prove it fake, and you claimed to be a PHOTOSHOP EXPERT when the most likely explanation now is that it wasn't BO, but someone else. You still haven't answered my extremely reasonable questions about photoshop, that an expert should be able to spell out for everyone.
That's really funny now that you're on the hook for explaining why you being a photoshop expert has anything to do with that image.
By doing what? What moderator thing did I do that would cause me to be removed? That sounds a lot like the "impeach Trump" crowd, to me.
You just keep going after making such embarrassing statements. It's so weird that you'd say such embarrassingly-easy-to-refute things, then go in a tirade attacking whomever is against you.
@dooob @Vindicator @think- @srayzie @MadWorld
Oh_Well_ian ago
you have no integrity, nigger
That is exactly why you should resign from all your subs.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
This rat is cornered. ah ah ah Time to stomp on it!
Crensch ago
@Blacksmith21 @bopper @valk2 @Brizznazz
This is what OWi has in response to anyone holding him to his words. I asked him a very simple question in my post, and he has yet to respond. I'll copy the text here:
My questions to @Oh_Well_ian:
Since you are a photoshop expert , perhaps you could explain why this shows the image to be unlikely tampered with. How are these images wrong? What steps can we take with the original image on our own copies of photoshop in order to find out how this image is shopped?
Maybe it'll help if you compare it to this photo, which appears to show tampering, and tell us what's really going on here?
Blacksmith21 ago
Don't keep bringing my name into this pissing match. Yeah, Ian stirs up shit. I stir up shit. We all stir up shit. We are "shit stirrers" because we bring up uncomfortable truths. Are we right 100% of the time? Hell no.
When I stir up shit, it's for a very specific reason. Suffice it to say I don't do anything unintentionally.
These subs are LOADED with paid disinformation specialists. They work solo and they work in tandem, with and w/o -alts. Most recently, the shills have adopted the cry baby tactic - they toned down the rhetoric for a few weeks and now they are applying righteous indignation to their complaints about mods and contributors.
For Crensch, Kevdude, and any other owners who are NOT regular contributors to this (or related) subs, I advise you to spend a month or three reading and reading and reading and learning about Pizzagate, Q, and related-topics, before passing judgment.
I know y'all think you are smart, but unless you are BALLS DEEP in Pizzagate, you really don't know what is going on, who the players are, and the TTPs of the shills.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Didn't I tell you, jew boy?? Didn't I?? Its time to pay the fuckin piper, bitch face
Crensch ago
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2600196/13081906/10#13081906
Why is he getting credit?
Did you know that some people don't have to be balls-deep in anything to point out inconsistencies and posting patterns of users like OWi?
Did you know that all he posts is regurgitated bullshit from 8ch, and the only original content he seems capable of submitting is attacks on anyone questioning why his being an expert on photoshop makes that image fake? (and other similarly absurd claims of his)
Blacksmith21 ago
Did you know that I hadn't given 1.5 seconds thought about your existence until 10 minutes ago and it REALLY sounds like you are doing your best to discredit a specific user because you don't like him and/or his post?
Let me ask the obvious question: Given the large amount of BS which gets posted on the 3 pertinent subs, which you say nothing about, why would you choose an authentic photo of a sitting member of the US Congress wearing a pedo symbol for jewelry, confirmed by Q, to make your claim?
Occam would say that you are doing your best to discredit truth. WHo gives a flying rat's asshole if it was posted elsewhere previously? 90% of what gets posted is regurgitated.
Our job here is to do our best to authenticate and add context to the nonsensical content posted on the Chans.
Again - Why are you fighting this OP so hard in a sub you otherwise do not participate in?
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think-
I'm sorry to bring both of you into this, but I think we all know this user is lying.
BS21, I'll post proof of your lie if I have to. The users above saw what I wrote to you, and their copies will be dated before your own if they present screenshots.
Try lying to me again.
Do you even read what you write?
OWi claimed Q acknowledged him, and pinged me directly here. Why wouldn't I be here refuting his lies?
He's taking credit for it. He's calling himself a good researcher. Researchers aren't good because they regurgitate, they're good because they come up with information that was not previously known.
Then ask ian why his photoshop skills mattered in the debunking of that photo.
Did you knot see where I was pinged here? Did you not see where my points were completely reasonable?
I'm starting to wonder about you, and I don't think anyone reading this would think I'm alone in that.
Blacksmith21 ago
You just like arguing for the sake of arguing. OWI original post was nothing but a link to 8CH. I'm still at a loss how you made a leap from that OP to your current position.
Everything else you commented is nothing but circuitous, argumentative BS designed to obfuscate. I'm not even sure what you are trying to glean at this point.
I can't comment on the PS issue. That's between you and him.
"Proof of my lie"....what lie? It now looks like you are tossing accusations out like a Palestinian tossing candy after a suicide bombing.
And now you're bringing in Vindicator and Think-?
You get Shitstirrer of the Week award. (sorry, you aren't good enough to qualify for the -of the Month award).
Crensch ago
You keep trying to make this stick, it's not going to stick. I'm here because I was pinged here. I'm RIGHT, just like I was about your submission.
He. Claimed. Credit. For. It.
In the OP above. Read it. Go on, read the OP you've been posting under this whole time.
@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @kevdude
Does BS21's description ever accurately describe anything I post? What about here? Why does he think he can comment on what my words were "designed" to do? In my opinion, BS21 has a dog in this fight that he hasn't disclosed.
I've been nothing but exactly clear this entire time. What part do you not understand?
Fair enough.
You spent far longer on that in your response to my PM to you about your pathetic PG post that you caused Vindicator and think- headaches over.
They can prove that you lied. They know that your words there are a lie.
Playing this off as some kind of game in order to look snarky.
Does anyone buy this kind of wannabe mic-drop horseshit anymore?
srayzie ago
@oh_Well_ian said this? Wow
No Ian. You’ve won that award every week for months.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
YOU ARE BUSTED. I HAVE PM'S WHERE I TOLD YOU THIS AND YOU SAID "FUCK YOU" TO ME AND TOOK THEIR SIDE! You are complicit. YOU KNEW. YOU FUCKING KNEW. I told your ass. You have harbored these fucking jews
srayzie ago
You’re a freak. I may not like his ass but he’s not a Jew. Go suck a dick.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
You can be as defiant as you want. I got your ass. You knew! You've been okay with OWI, Blacksmith21, Dooob and Millennial Vulcans behavior up until this point. Now that ya'll are busted as larpers and trying to take credit for others work, Now its "oi vey boo hoo have pity on me".
Blacksmith21 ago
Oh they are all just lining up to defend you....
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Many here will defend Crench. You can bet your jew ass on that
Crensch ago
I think my blacksmith means is that you guys would defend me even if I'm wrong. And I know for a fact that you guys would bust my balls if you thought I was wrong.
CheeseboogersGhost ago
I'd be on your shit if I thought you were wrong and I damn sure know you would be on mine. You aren't wrong about what's going on here. Of course he would claim some bogus shit like he is. The rat is cornered
MadWorld ago
His altitude has already spoken enough of his personal character. That's enough for me to know and get by. Thank you!
CheeseboogersGhost ago
Look at all the rats scurrying!
Oh_Well_ian ago
I've had you on <block> for months because you're a shill. I don't give two fucks about shills.
Funny, on my screen all you niggers are blocked and it looks very organized, like files full of feces, little tabs of turds.
MadWorld ago
Congratulations, you just keep on shitting yourself. Block me, call me shill or pickle, call me whatever you like. It doesn't change the fact that I have already seen the kind of character inside you.
If you must have your last words to feed your male ego, by all means have your last words.
Oh_Well_ian ago
I don't answer compromised mods with agendas.
You are really trying to turn this into Reddit, aren't you?
Crensch ago
You don't answer legitimate questions about your words, it seems. You won't even answer what moderator tool I misused that makes you want to have me removed.
More emotive outrage rhetoric. Do you think something like this convinces anyone? Well, maybe in your long-winded walls of garbage that you like to post, but look at what happens when I break down your words.
Everyone can see what you really are, OWi.
Oh_Well_ian ago
and everyone can see who you are, faggot...
You mean walls of garbage like this >>
People are waking up >> https://voat.co/v/whatever/2598250 >> https://voat.co/v/whatever/2598414
1 ) These people stacking up at the border ARE NOT Immigrants, they are Foreign Nationals. They do not have the right to break our laws and enter into our country illegally. They do not have Diplomatic Status and they are subject to ALL our laws, just like every American citizen. Any American who attempts to illegally breach a border or unlawfully enter into another country will be arrested and deported immediately. They will be banned or forever restricted from entering into that country ( or other countries ) in the future. Their passports ( if they have one ) will be revoked by our own State Department and they will be fined and possibly imprisoned.
2 ) Half the minor children that make it to the Southern Border are UNACCOMPANIED by their actual parents. That means they are more than likely victims of human trafficking, not victims of our laws. It would be morally irresponsible to turn these children loose in our country and subject them to the vast and predatory network of human trafficking.
3 ) The danger and threat to these children infinitely decreases the minute they are picked up by DHS, ICE and Border Patrol. The are protected from being victimized by Coyotes and traffickers. They are no longer subject to the harsh elements nor in danger of starvation or dehydration. They are fed, given shelter and water, blankets and a place to sleep while their status is determined. Almost none of these foreign nationals have documentation and it makes for an extremely complicated process of finding out who they are, their country of origin, and whether they are being trafficked. The delays are not cruelty and they are not being held a single day longer than they need to. They are not being incarcerated, they are being detained. ( I actually saw bleeding heart news story on MSNBC with a narrative about the inhumanity the poor children were suffering with an accompanying video of kids shooting pool and playing video games on a big screen TV. Probably the kids first ever experience with such horrible human cruelty. o_0)
4 ) Fast and Furious was more than just handing guns to Drug Cartels. That narrative lacks the central truth about Drug Cartels: THEY ARE HUMAN/SEX TRAFFICKERS, TOO!! The Obama/Clinton State Department was running guns deep into Central America, including Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua. They were handing the guns directly to Drug/Human trafficking Cartels in a deliberate effort to destabilize those countries and facilitate human trafficking. Sound familiar? It should, because they did the same thing in Libya, Syria, Mogadishu, Liberia, Congo, and at least 10 other nations. This is the PLAN. Force refugees North to Europe and the United States and prey upon them every step of their journey. This is why you see mostly men in the massive wave that finally arrives at our ports and borders. The women and children have been picked like ripe fruit and swept into sex trafficking and slavery.
5 ) Lawmakers don't give two shits about this contrived and created problem. The President is the only person calling for a WALL and for Congress to act towards a solution. Democrats and Republicans alike are following the disingenuous narrative being laid out by the Orwellian MSM: 'Trump is destroying Families!! Oh, the humanity!!' <BARF> Human trafficking is big business and donors to both partiers are profiting enormously over the status quo. Politicians don't want a solution. They want a distraction to keep the train heading down the tracks.
Crensch ago
Yes, they can, and I'm happy they're beginning to see both of us for who we are. It seems you're not very happy about that, though.
Exactly like that.
Stating this for what reason? People ARE waking up. What's your point? That you somehow had something to do with it? All you do is regurgitate 8ch stuff here, and make long-winded posts where you try to take credit for what is already happening.
Tell me, does any of the other stuff you've written below explain how being a photoshop expert allows you to call that image fake? Or is all of the text just you copying what has been reported elsewhere, and typing it up here for internet points?
Do you type long-winded things like that in order to make it seem like you have a lot to say, and a lot to contribute? You could have just linked the articles that say basically the same thing, but without your editorializing.
Hell, another user could post all of those articles, and wouldn't harass other users, or break the rules of the subverses they posted them in constantly.
Blacksmith21 ago
FWIW - I'm pretty confident I am not the only contributor on this sub who spends ZERO time on Reddit and the Chans.
Personally, I appreciate salient reposts from those subs here. Otherwise, I have to wait until they percolate up to the surface.
Also, OWI has never attempted to plagiarize any post to my knowledge. Who cares if he forgot the citation. I'm pretty sure any Pizzagater worth his weight in _________ has seen that photo and knows OWI isn't the content source.
What's next? Are you going to start enforcing Turabian and APA?
Crensch ago
That's fine. Think you could find someone to post stuff from there to here that isn't as intellectually vapid and/or as compromised as ian?
I'm sure someone else would happily step up that wouldn't act like doing so makes him a top researcher.
He sure takes credit for that sheila jackson photo. Why should I think he hasn't done that elsewhere? Why should I think that's not his modus operandi?
Am I enforcing anything? What have I done as a mod here? When will OWi answer my extremely reasonable photoshop question?
And why is it that you asked me to:
Here but you're continuing to be a part of it?
Blacksmith21 ago
You tagged me twice so I feel obliged. FWIW, I don't have an innate urge to argue with anyone, but I also don't back down.
I'm not seeing anything which would indicate that OWi laid claim to being the origin of that photo. I would be the absolute first person to call out anyone, I mean ANYONE, who would attempt to pass off a post as their own if I could prove otherwise.
That's on OWi re Photoshop.
Again - Why the cause celebre?
Crensch ago
Did I?I did. Fair enough.Maybe, and yes, you do.
Did you read OP?
Let me help:
Do you see something fishy there? Something that doesn't match with your characterization of his words?
Apparently not.
Fair enough.
Ambiguous antecedent.
Blacksmith21 ago
I'm starting to see a pattern:
JewsBlendingIn [O]
pizzagate [O]
pizzagatemods [O]
politicalnews [O]
ProtectVoat [O]
Shekelverse [O]
Shitlist [O]
TrailOfTacos [O]
VoatHistory [O]
WritersoftheReich [O]
Crensch ago
And?
Are you taking a pot-shot at me being a mod again? Show me where I DID something as a mod that is questionable.
Blacksmith21 ago
How about being a mod posting genocidal comments on their own OP?
https://voat.co/v/whatever/2583183
Crensch ago
Show me where I DID something as a mod that is questionable.
You're showing exactly how much winning this means to you. I was right about you having a dog in this fight.
Blacksmith21 ago
I have a dog in this fight as an American. You know what you posted.
"Every one of these subhumans should be slaughtered, along with their families visiting them, and the doctors and nurses treating them."
I hope the HIPAA 5-0 don't come looking for you.....LOLOLOL.
Crensch ago
It's so funny how you can't win on the subject matter here so you have to bring up something else completely irrelevant to the subject at hand.
Blacksmith21 ago
Or maybe it's because you are blinded by racism?
Blacksmith21 ago
It's funny how you can't establish your credibility as a man of substance. What's the matter Crensch? Did you dox yourself and some boogey man sent you hate mail?
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think- @kevdude @xenoPsychologist @MadWorld
Blacksmith21 ago
@vindicator @srayzie @oh_well_ian @think- @crensch
Which side of the fight are you on?
Q #1573
"They want you DIVIDED!
They call us names.
They make threats.
They censor.
They lie.
They project.
They cheat."
Crensch ago
Who has lied here? You and ian.
Blacksmith21 ago
"Who has lied here?"
You sound like that little outraged bitch from the DNC who got punked on Tucker last night.
Would you like to apply Robert's Rules of Order?
Crensch ago
So you have no response, just a snarky comparison and a rhetorical question?
You lied about multiple things here, and even strawmanned my argument pretty consistently, which I also consider a lie.
Blacksmith21 ago
And not rhetorical. Any well-heeled gentleman, such as yourself, should most honestly embrace Robert's Rules of Order.
Have you ever been to Mt. Vernon? Maybe you should.
Blacksmith21 ago
Please cite my "lies". Oh manly man.
Crensch ago
Lie. I destroyed you in a DM that @Vindicator and @think- were copied on. You removed a post because of it; a post you'd fought for over a day to keep up otherwise.
From the link above.
What truth? You claim I'm trying to discredit truth. What truth? Not quite a lie, but dishonest, surely.
Also in the link above - acting like I had no business being there, and that I shouldn't respond when I'm pinged in the submission specifically. Not a lie, per-se, but really REALLY shows either a deep, disturbing stupidity, or dishonesty. You choose.
Outright lie. You didn't source your claim, because you cannot. But this is, of course, an invitation to prove me wrong.
Outright lie. And also completely irrelevant to the subject-matter. As above, can you prove me wrong?
Outright lie. You deleted a post that you wouldn't have otherwise deleted because of my DM to you. Are you saying a man not of substance did that to you?
It was rhetorical. It was a grandstanding attempt to make yourself sound smart when your position is so weak.
Outright lie. He passes it off as his own in the subject line of the OP you're responding in.
Outright lie. You deleted that post after my DM.
You're lying here, too. It doesn't prove that. You deleted your post because of a guy like that?
Blacksmith21 ago
Jesus kid...you are giving me a headache. Go take your meds and stop getting triggered. I didn't delete shit. You are "Kirking out".
Damn....LMAO....you are freaking the fuck out. Scared little boy. WTF? Was I a bit too close to home? Go check the back door...
Crensch ago
@Vindicator @think-
No more pings from me. This is BS21. I don't think anything more needs to be said.
Blacksmith21 ago
Enjoy your keyboard, boy.
Blacksmith21 ago
@xenopsychologist ^^^
xenoPsychologist ago
i see. they keep shouting racism like its supposed to win the argument. it says a lot.
Blacksmith21 ago
Someone got sand in their mangina. Snitch.