I've reached my limit on allowing this vector of attack on my mods to continue. The following usernames seem to be the ones pushing all of this, and I'd very much appreciate every one of you airing your grievances, or telling your story as to why it's Vindicator, or some other mod's, fault that this cunt died.
I've seen the evidence that she spread disinfo and lied consistently, and I've seen it explained why she was banned from PG.
Now I want your side of the story. What leads did she give you that were so awesome? What information? What body of research of hers was so amazing that she gets to be a martyr here?
@Gothamgirl - You get a VIP pass on this one. I've seen your name pop up more than any other, and I have addressed you directly a few times, yet you seem to ignore the fact that you couldn't support your positions when challenged, but continue spouting your narrative anyway.
Make your case below.
@Carmencita - You've shown yourself multiple times to be an overemotional cuntbag who responds to complete horseshit comments and submissions as if they have an ounce of merit... and when shown otherwise, nothing but crickets from you. You're a weak-minded individual with no ability to deal with being wrong, and a significant overuse of your emotions when determining what you believe.
Nevertheless, I invite you to make your case below. Tell us why Jem777 was so awesome, and why it's the mods' fault.
@jangles - You edited this comment poorly, so I honestly do not know where you stand anymore. If you still believe any of the stuff you did when you originally made that comment, please post about it below.
@RIPJem - You seem to be almost rabid in your defense of Jem777 and this fishy-as-fuck narrative of her dying, and the ensuing push for her becoming a martyr and a justification to attack the PG mods. You write a lot of words, and you make a lot of claims, but you don't back your words up with any thing at all. The ONE exception is a link to the oann.com video that also seems suspicious.
Tell us why we're wrong, and use sources to support your claims below.
@Dressage2 - You made this post where you linked 2 submissions by the aforementioned cunt about how she was banned and had to move to DC and filed lawsuits and how awful the PG mods were/are.
Hey Dressage, I couldn't find those lawsuits anywhere. Where were they again?
Oh, right. She's a LIAR. A 007 LARPer that white knights like you fell for, hook, line, and sinker.
@pringle - Need to bounce, TBD
@Z14 Looks like this didn't turn out too well for you
@EffYouJohnPodesta - Need to bounce, TBD
@Cc1914 -- Need to bounce, TBD
@Oh_Well_ian - I would feel excellent if I had been the one to ban her. Where is the evidence that she had real information on anything at all? Is there even really any good evidence that she died - I don't really consider the latest news video to be evidence, as it's fishy as fuck... didn't know her last name? Naming FBI agent as person to contact? Kek.
But hey, I could be wrong - prove me wrong below.
@darkknight111 @thisistotallynotme destroyed your accusations towards AWS
@thisistotallynotme - I would sleep like a baby for banning a liar like Jem777. I'd sleep even better knowing she was dead.
Maybe I'm wrong about her being a liar, and all the evidence I've seen has some interpretation I haven't thought of. Or maybe you have other evidence of her doing more good than harm? Whatever your deal, make your case below.
@kosherhivekicker - You're one of my favourite goats, so I'll answer one of your questions:
"Evidence Requirements"?
Yes. Links to sources for claims made. She wouldn't do it because her cover story of being in WITSEC gives her special privileges where she can make claims and not back them up. Well, that's what she claimed, anyway.
@mergen - We're mods, not admins and there's a very real difference in the meanings of the words. Please make your case about how WE are corrupt or how Voat is a honeypot, along with whatever white-knighting you want to do for Jem777.
@Piscina - Where are these supposedly relevant threads? I post that you're a know-nothing cunt that wants to virtue-signal about how you're TOTALLY on the side of that POOR DEAD MARTYR.
@Kiwislave - Need to bounce, TBD
@dreamdigital - Need to bounce, TBD
@gamepwn - Need to bounce, TBD
@beastmodefreak - - Need to bounce, TBD
For those with TBD, I will be back to scour your comments and submissions later. The list was acquired from numerous sources, so if you are on here in error, my apologies.
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dreamdigital ago
I've said one thing in a statement saying that this is making one of your mods look bad. Take my name off the list.
srayzie ago
What mod looks bad?
dreamdigital ago
I was saying Vindicator was being made to look bad. I think I worded it wrong. But people need to stop almost blaming him for what has happened, it's ridiculous.
Vindicator ago
Worded it wrong? That's rich.
You told Voat I "slandered" her and as evidence linked to a thread by @gamepwn which
1.) did not include the thread she was banned for and
2.) repeated her numerous lies about how she was treated, including completely false claims that I ignored death threats she received and that a physical assault on her at home was the result of doxing of her here due to the sharing of her IP address.
Here's your actual comment:
Literally everything in this comment is untrue. You claim I made the rules for v/pizzagate when the users have repeatedly voted on the rules and can propose changes to them at any time. You claim Jem "had stuff" when no one, including her and Robin Gritz, has produced any such "stuff". You claim I "should have worked with her" implying I did not work with her, when I unbanned her, tried to help her make rule-compliant submissions, and only banned her when she left me no choice after she essentially gave one of our board owners the finger when HE tried to help her edit a post. She then proceeded to lie repeatedly about how and why she was banned, and tried to use it to convince people Voat would dox them for investigating pizzagate.
It sure as hell is. What's even more ridiculous is you claiming you innocently "worded it wrong". It's revisionism like this that has pretty much convinced me that Jem wasn't just an emotionally disturbed individual with authority issues but an actual disinfo pusher.
@Crensch @srayzie @think-
dreamdigital ago
No, I don't think she was disinfo, she was just trying to do her part. How is it not true when I said: "You were not made to look very good?" I was commenting on the actual thread. And by me saying she had stuff, the statement in the article claims she had something. Whether she died of natural or unnatural causes, that is up in the air. It sucks you were made to look like the bad guy. All of this info you are now sharing about what happened and how it went down, I researched none of it. The only thing I've seen was the thread I commented on. Then @Srayzie made a thread later regarding everything else. The only part I agree with what I said now in that comment is that in that thread you were not made to look very good. Sorry man, I hope everyone realizes and calms down because its' clearly no one's fault here. And again, do not say she was purposely spreading disinfo. That's not true. Could she have had something that was probably not accurate that she believed was accurate? Yes. We can all find trails and rabbit holes that lead nowhere. I think I needed more facts before I made that comment. I knew nothing about people saying you doxed her. All new to me.
Vindicator ago
Thanks for reevaluating, dreamdigital. I appreciate the clarification. One thing I'd like to ask you, though...
How do you reconcile "do not say she was purposely spreading disinfo. That's not true" with the fact that Jem -- not "people" -- Jem herself claimed I accessed her IP address and sent men to beat her up at her home? Those two statements can't both be true.
dreamdigital ago
And again, I want to apologize. I'm accusing you of nothing.
dreamdigital ago
Once again, I did not know any of this info about her saying this. Yes, I agree, that's disinfo, or what I like to call being so paranoid, anyone who questions you is out to get you. She was clearly paranoid. I had no idea she was saying you personally sent those guys after her? Where does did she say that? Was she just throwing out accusations in a rant or something? That sucks man, I'm sorry. And it's really messed up. With the comment I made, I posted a lot that day and honestly forgot what I had even said. I just knew at the end of the day what my opinion was. I feel like mods are always being attacked on here for stupid stuff anyway, but this, however, is quite extreme. I do not agree with any of this. Hopefully, everyone else reads this stuff and doesn't have the opinion you are somehow to blame.