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dreamdigital ago

I've said one thing in a statement saying that this is making one of your mods look bad. Take my name off the list.

srayzie ago

What mod looks bad?

dreamdigital ago

I was saying Vindicator was being made to look bad. I think I worded it wrong. But people need to stop almost blaming him for what has happened, it's ridiculous.

srayzie ago

When I talked to you yesterday, you didn’t tell me that you said @Vindicator slandered Jem. When I said that Vindicator did nothing wrong, you totally agreed with me.

Ok, instead of telling Voat that Vindicator “slandered” her, what word did you mean to use? Because that words pretty harsh. I don’t see how that could have been some sort of mistake.

Do you mean to say that you’ve come to realize that Vindicator slandering her was untrue? Did you have a change of heart? What is it you’re saying?

dreamdigital ago

And your first statement, I never said he Slandered her. The thread said that. Where have I said, "He slandered her?" I'm actually not seeing anywhere that uses the word slander.

srayzie ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2672730/13544200

@Vindicator you are not made to look very good on this thread. I know you're just following the rules you all have set in place, but seriously man, this lady had stuff. Should have worked with her.

Gem777 Banned and slandered

Once again, he did nothing wrong. He did what mods are supposed to do. This is shitty. If you changed your view, just tell him that. He’s really reasonable. But to just change your story is pretty fucked up in my opinion. How would you feel being told something like that? It wouldn’t feel very good. Multiply that by many people at once saying it to you. It’s one of the most ridiculous attacks I’ve seen. He’s not paid to do this. He does this because he cares. Not only is he not appreciated enough for all that he does,but he gets his name slung thru the mud as well.

dreamdigital ago

What I said to @vindicator, my story is not changed, my opinion did and posted a lot that day. I honestly forgot what I had even posted that. And I agree, it's all ridiculous. People need to stop jumping on the same paranoid train she was on. If she was being chased after by people or got beat up by a bunch of dudes who told her to keep her mouth shut, I can see why she would lashing out at anyone who questioned her. But I agree, that's not fair to @vindicator. It sucks. I hope people back off.

srayzie ago

I don’t know. @Vindicator said you said that. Can’t you find it?

srayzie ago

Thank you. I’ll give it to him.

dreamdigital ago

That's what I'm saying. People were making everyone think he was somehow to blame. He's not.

srayzie ago

I agree

Vindicator ago

Worded it wrong? That's rich.

You told Voat I "slandered" her and as evidence linked to a thread by @gamepwn which

1.) did not include the thread she was banned for and

2.) repeated her numerous lies about how she was treated, including completely false claims that I ignored death threats she received and that a physical assault on her at home was the result of doxing of her here due to the sharing of her IP address.

Here's your actual comment:

@Vindicator you are not made to look very good on this thread. I know you're just following the rules you all have set in place, but seriously man, this lady had stuff. Should have worked with her.

Gem777 Banned and slandered

Literally everything in this comment is untrue. You claim I made the rules for v/pizzagate when the users have repeatedly voted on the rules and can propose changes to them at any time. You claim Jem "had stuff" when no one, including her and Robin Gritz, has produced any such "stuff". You claim I "should have worked with her" implying I did not work with her, when I unbanned her, tried to help her make rule-compliant submissions, and only banned her when she left me no choice after she essentially gave one of our board owners the finger when HE tried to help her edit a post. She then proceeded to lie repeatedly about how and why she was banned, and tried to use it to convince people Voat would dox them for investigating pizzagate.

People need to stop almost blaming him for what has happened, it's ridiculous.

It sure as hell is. What's even more ridiculous is you claiming you innocently "worded it wrong". It's revisionism like this that has pretty much convinced me that Jem wasn't just an emotionally disturbed individual with authority issues but an actual disinfo pusher.

@Crensch @srayzie @think-

dreamdigital ago

And sorry I'm confused. I put the link that says "Banned and Slandered." I understand what you're all saying now. I'm slow tonight. No, I don't agree with that statement. That thread was just an attack using her one-sided comments because she got banned. I should have had more evidence before I shared that. How would you like me to retract that? Or did I just do it? Again, though, I don't think she is a disinfo pusher by any means. She was actually in the field interviewing alleged victims.

dreamdigital ago

No, I don't think she was disinfo, she was just trying to do her part. How is it not true when I said: "You were not made to look very good?" I was commenting on the actual thread. And by me saying she had stuff, the statement in the article claims she had something. Whether she died of natural or unnatural causes, that is up in the air. It sucks you were made to look like the bad guy. All of this info you are now sharing about what happened and how it went down, I researched none of it. The only thing I've seen was the thread I commented on. Then @Srayzie made a thread later regarding everything else. The only part I agree with what I said now in that comment is that in that thread you were not made to look very good. Sorry man, I hope everyone realizes and calms down because its' clearly no one's fault here. And again, do not say she was purposely spreading disinfo. That's not true. Could she have had something that was probably not accurate that she believed was accurate? Yes. We can all find trails and rabbit holes that lead nowhere. I think I needed more facts before I made that comment. I knew nothing about people saying you doxed her. All new to me.

Vindicator ago

Thanks for reevaluating, dreamdigital. I appreciate the clarification. One thing I'd like to ask you, though...

How do you reconcile "do not say she was purposely spreading disinfo. That's not true" with the fact that Jem -- not "people" -- Jem herself claimed I accessed her IP address and sent men to beat her up at her home? Those two statements can't both be true.

dreamdigital ago

And again, I want to apologize. I'm accusing you of nothing.

dreamdigital ago

Once again, I did not know any of this info about her saying this. Yes, I agree, that's disinfo, or what I like to call being so paranoid, anyone who questions you is out to get you. She was clearly paranoid. I had no idea she was saying you personally sent those guys after her? Where does did she say that? Was she just throwing out accusations in a rant or something? That sucks man, I'm sorry. And it's really messed up. With the comment I made, I posted a lot that day and honestly forgot what I had even said. I just knew at the end of the day what my opinion was. I feel like mods are always being attacked on here for stupid stuff anyway, but this, however, is quite extreme. I do not agree with any of this. Hopefully, everyone else reads this stuff and doesn't have the opinion you are somehow to blame.

Crensch ago