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fogdryer ago

we understand their goal (s). we understand their collusion. what can we do if anything? there is nowhere to go, except 3 countries, it would be kinda senseless to fight since we are so few in number compared to them etc etc. in either case you have done a lot of work, took a lot of time...... thank you so much

argosciv ago

what can we do if anything?

If nothing else, we can keep looking where they don't want us to...


"Look at that natural disaster!"

"No, we want to know what you and your ilk are doing"

"Look at that serial killer/disappearance of an icon/gang violence/rioting!"

"No, we want to know what you and your ilk are doing"

"Look at that terrorist attack and our efforts to stop terrorism!"

"No, we want to know what you and your ilk are actually doing"


there is nowhere to go, except 3 countries

Running away from problems never solves anything anyway. Those who think the solution is to run away to another country, or to isolate themselves in the woods to escape society and etc, don't seem to realize that it does nothing to stop the issues from continuing and moreover, those same issues may very well find a way back to their doorstep anyway.

Whether we know and/or like it or not, we're all in this together.

it would be kinda senseless to fight since we are so few in number compared to them etc etc

Are we really? With respect, I disagree. We sorely outnumber them (made up figures, welcome to the internet:) 10000+ to 1, if (and only if) people begin to unanimously reject the lies and corruption playing out at our expense. Yes, their 'security forces'(police and etc) and other veils do create a proverbial army of sorts at their disposal, but, the control they have over said army, is based on fear and lies.

Spread the truth, embolden the fearful, turn the tides. If we expose what's going on in the background, now that the pedophile magicians are outta the way, more and more good, honest people will surely stand up for what is just.

"Might take a year or ten, generations of men. We've past the point of no return!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEc2f0MLmk Turisas - End of an Empire

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fogdryer ago

Running away is your interpretation I am physically sick watching what is being down and not having any power to stop it, living with lousy media and people who don't believe. I am physically sick Lost my family and friends over this. Spreading awareness is not enough

argosciv ago

Fair call, I shouldn't have directly implied that you yourself, are trying to run away from this.

I can absolutely empathize with your feeling physically sick from it, the same happens to me occasionally. Spreading awareness isn't enough on it's own, especially in the face of those who willingly look the other way; active research into corruption and initiatives to undo/overcome it, are essential also.

Ultimately, the pressure has to come from a variety of methods and on a massive scale, if those pulling the strings are to be held accountable in some capacity. Awareness is just a start.

fogdryer ago

Ultimately, the pressure has to come from a variety of methods and on a massive scale, yea the media would have helped but now they are out. How to we pressure them. I have only one idea, and I don't think it would get any volunteers so I can scratch that off the list. someone mentioned "getting the blackmailers themselves". would not that be equally fruitless since they all have the goods on each other? I remember reading that when Clinton was in DC Hillbot hired someone to collect dirty information on each and every person for future use.........idk

argosciv ago

I'm at a loss for answers there, getting the "blackmailers" and "string pullers" is definitely a worthy goal, but, forgive the pseudopsychology, we need to think in smaller steps between now and then; a multi-faceted approach which in some ways will include petitioning main-stream-media to stop burying their heads in the sand.

PrettyScary ago

"Look at this...look at that" Kinda what you're doing with these rambling jumbled posts meant to keep people chasing pink elephants instead of actual leads? Where does Wisconsin fit in here? You barely touch on this. They don't get hurricanes either.