Does anyone know anything about La Mora? the mormons that got killed the other day were from there, and i recall that they had some human trafficking connections as well, but i am not 100% sure if my memory is correct.
The timing of it is setting off red flags. I have a sick feeling more leaks are coming soon.
FreeThinkers Commune 409 Macoy Avenue. Is this "The Mountain House"?
Seventy miles south of Washington, DC, is the town of Culpeper, Virginia, a pretty little burg of 10,000 with views of the Blue Ridge Mountains. The solid, red-brick corner house at 409 Macoy Avenue seems transplanted from another planet.
Pettie, 42, is launching a unique clubhouse--she calls it a social laboratory--for freethinkers. After she gives you the grand tour, curled up over steaming cups of tea in the cozy Biographies section, you ask her to clarify.
"It's a global, live-in or live-out, mutual aid society for experimenting with how to live well in a godless world." Sounds good. Who's invited? She rattles off: "Skeptics, free inquirers, perspectivists, agnostics, Franklinites, infidels, eupraxsophists, sinners, secularists, postconventionals, and other persons with a good sense of humor--a/k/a perspective."
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How can we find the identity of the redacted 'Game Caller' from the documents? On page 133 he is described as a white male, but all other information is redacted. It describes some of his ways of communicating and controlling the group.
MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL. Why did the Finders drop by FBI Vault include two documents related to McMartin Preschool? The documents are detailed accounts of the underground tunnels at McMartin that were later debunked. The tunnels as well as the McMartin case have nothing to do with the Finders cult. (Nothing overt that any of us know about.) So why would they be tucked into the Finders files? Is the FBI trying to tell us something? Was it a mistake?
BTW I'm not at all implying that the tunnels were not real. Just saying that the defense, etc, debunked their existence which ended up helping the McMartins go free.
p224 Sergeant John H. Stitcher MPD dead after investigating CIA Finders connection
part 3, p.8-10: interviews the SA (probably Special Agent Ramon Martinez) currently assigned to Internal Affairs who participated with the MPD in the Finders warehouse searches: TPD contacted Customs in DC to help them follow up on leads and Customs arranged contact between the TPD and MPD; the SA got involved because of suspicions that children were being sexually exploited and taken to Mexico; after the warehouse search, he tried repeatedly to get MPD to let him review the seized documents, and was unsuccessful until 1987/03/31 when he met with Sgt. John Stitcher of the MPD (now deceased).
The (two) Residential Properties at the end of the block back up to a large forested Whitehaven Park. From recent GPS sat maps it seems there is a community garden behind the units, reminding one of the Mothers pushing healthy eating habits, and the raw fruits and vegetables the children claimed to be surviving off. Whitehaven is attached to Glover Archbold Park making up quite a large swath of open forest land miles of hiking routs including Glover Archbold Trail. The park borders Georgetown University, Guy Mason Recreation Center and contains tunnels that lead to the Canal towpath.
On Dec. 15, a D.C. police detective observed a clearing in the rear of the 3900 block of W Street NW where "several round stones had been gathered" near a circle, as well as evidence that people had gathered there, according to the document, which stated that "this practice is sometimes used in satanic rituals." Armed with that information and the report from Tallahassee police of the allegedly abused children, D.C. police sought search warrants for the Glover Park residence and the warehouse.
PLAN CHECK for PROPOSED ADDITION OF A CELLAR/ BASEMENT April,2,2014 :
I looked for recent activity and found a Plan check document for the renovation and building of a CELLAR/BASEMENT Level. Besides the obvious suspect nature of a basement unit, they have two Unit 7s which are the same square footage but on different floors. Perhaps they wished to make one of these units disappear off the records.
Note they have two Unit 7s which are the same square footage but on different floors. Perhaps they wished to make one of these units disappear off the records.
The building itself actually has some grisly history dating back to the 1980s, when members of an obscure cult called the "Finders" allegedly used it and the adjoining unit to the west as a site for "brainwashing" rituals, according to a 1987 Washington Post article about the arrest of two of the alleged cult members. Others, like a college professor who briefly lived at the house, according to the Post piece, said the residents were "a close-knit group" of feminists who were discriminated against because of "their life style."
The rear of the property is bordered by Whitehaven Parkway, “offering a view that is hard to come across in the city,” she said. The building is located near Wisconsin Avenue and one block from a Metrobus stop.
This is not historical data, but current, with correlations to the Finders case and the trends from similar research. While there is no direct link to the Finders, this Aerospace Entrepreneur, GW University Professor, satellite/HAM/internet communications and data expert registered with the FCC, and convicted of CHILD PORN, -has an office walking distance from a warehouse notorious for the same crimes. He is not your run of the mill creep either, he has scientific papers published, is developing small satellites, and does not seem to be very affected by being on THE LIST.
Sumadra (maybe Samudra) Haque
Position: Aerospace Systems Integration Engineering Panel Secretary
Affiliation: George Washington University
Technical Areas of Interest: Aerospace Systems Integration Engineering
Resume: Engineering Director. B.S. Computer Science, M.S. Space Studies with Honors. Previous: Managing Director, PraDeshta Limited (1991-2005); Director Broadband Technologies, B2 Technology and Consulting Services, Inc. (2005-2010).
Good reading. But much is redacted as well. Particularly the leaders names, the CIA involvement, the NAVY connections, and most likely government official's names.
sorry, I'm completely in the dark to what I'm reading here, I mean I recognize a lot of the names involved, but what the hell is all this? Can someone give me a crash course?
This is about a child rape and trafficking cult, connected to the CIA and other government agencies and actors, and with ties to pedo rings abroad, called 'The Finders'.
Initially, a customs officer found evidence (you can read about it here in the linked PDF file https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3486505/21081755/10#21081755), but the investigation was squashed by the State Department (Reagan administration).
The Reagan administration has also been infamous for letting underage boys into the White House who were then sexually exploited (the trafficking was run by Craig Spence, a friend of Roy Cohn, who was Trump's friend and mentor).
This was exposed in the Franklin Scandal case. You can find videos on YouTube about it.
Brice Taylor, says in Thanks for the Memories , that Reagan used her as a presidential model......mind controlled sex slave.The most brutal of all the politicians was robert byrd .
My favorite part is where they claim the Finders were an arm of the CIA doing propaganda work for them. The guys that had 6 children dirty with no underwear on only spent 1o days in jail. Also they have a leader called the Game caller. He and a lady named Isabel were in fact agents from (redacted) from 1950 to 1971. Their original name is Finders Keepers. The farm in Virgina had caged for children. The Information from Gunderson about the Mc Martin case is fairly old,but interesting that they kept notes on his summary of events. The CIA is a very gross organization that needs to be dismantled.
xxxxxx also advised that he had been told that documentation had been located in the WMPD files to indicate that SGT. John Stycher (deceased), who had been his Sergeant during the Finders search, had been contacted by a xxxxxxxx who had told him to step away from the Finders case.
You know what would be great? If info like this wasn't redacted, or the FBI had done something about it, instead of sitting on it for 30 fucking years.
This is a thread I posted more than 2 and a half years ago. It includes the entire Ted Gunderson file, including the Finders' Cult and much, much more. It was then flagged as "possible disinformation" by Millenial Falcon which I didn't agree with but had to endure. I always believed Ted Gunderson was the real deal. Now we all know for sure. Thank you Lord for this!
I met GUNDERSON and he really helped me when I was being tracked, followed and harassed back in 1995-99. I even stayed at his place in vegas and believe me, he wasn't exactly living large. Gunderson, when I told him about my harassment and breakins, told me, "yeah, they can do all that. You are on the list". I know some people have said he was a double agent but then why was he driving around in a kinda beatup car and living in a crummy apartment.
So, isn't it interesting that Peter Delecto could be 'delightful Peter'? Peter can lead to many other meanings like Pete for Pan in PeterPan, but most intriguing of all to me personally is that Peter in French is Pierre. Which in turn means a STONE, "a simple stone, remember the name" (Kim Clement prophecy) AND Stone, or Pierre is synonymous to caillou (a small and simple stone) which interestingly is the title name of a french cartoon that infamously was connected to this child abuse video that many believe is or was John Podesta.
(At the time, I was timidly entering the research and did not think to archive, which almost immediately led to the deletion of the evidence) I got 2 upvoats and no comments on it: that's how fast it was taken down. But I remember seeing Mitt Romney's picture, along with BHO and two others 'delecting' themselves eating slices of pizza appearing on the tumblr page of this PizzaPac, which I found to be very curious. Why would politicians be eating pizza, praising how good pizza is and how it should be part of every American's life et al? Why would they even start a Pac called PizzaPac ? I mean, hello?
Yes! that's the one, thanks. Aw, some of the links are broken at the top, but you can see, it is very weird. So, there were 3, not 4 people. Don't know the third one's name. Anyway, it sure sounds like code words to me. Here's an example:
We believe that pizza and politics go hand in hand. And so does pepperoni.>
Quite a few Jews in their cult . They were a group of communist Satanists, both Jewish creations.
FINDERS
Marion David Pettie, Jr age 75, born Nethers, VA Retired Air Force Intelligence in 1956 as Master Sgt. Wife: Isabell Pettie (Deceased)/CIA Support Sec. COS Germany Sons: George Pettie (Air America/Vietnam) David Marion Pettie (member of cult: The Community)
ACTIVE MEMBERS:
Alleman, Ronald L. "Lucky" "Merry Man" Berns, Stanley Grogan, Mary Herbst, Christian (KRIS) Knauth, Kristin Reiss, Theodore G. (wife: Ann) Schoen, Allen Silverstone, Stuart Miles (aka Steve Learner) Winn, Randolph Usdin, Steve
Ammerman, Douglas Edward (aka Kenny Rogers, Earnest Angel, I Betterson) Arico, Paula M. (children: Mary and John Paul Pope/married Holwell) Beltz, Judith Friedman Cox, John J. Evans, Judith Gabriel, Susan E. Holwell, Michael James (aka Houlihan/children: See Arico) Lawton, George Livingstone, Patricia H. (son: Max) Meyer, Robert M. Roseberry, Patricia Said, Carolyn (daughter: Bee Bee) Sartor, Valerie Shapiro, Jan Sherwood, Diane E. Sylvester, Barbara ("Bonnie"/died Jan 1982/Pettie's girlfriend) Terrell, Robert Gardner "Toby" (aka Ghingiz K. Plato) Ubois, Jeff (married Ma Li, from Canton China). Van Deusen, Thomas R. Wagg, Terry.
FRONTS:
Dorm: Finders, 3920 W St NW, 20007-1774 202-337-9814 Finders, J. 3918 W St NW, 20007-1773 202-338-8163 Lucky Womens Travelers Center: 3918 W St NW, 20007-1773 202-333-9696.
National Press Club:
Global Press, 529 14th St, NW Wash 20045-1000 202-662-7431 Bio World, 529 14th St, NW Wash 20045-1000 202-662-7431 AAA-1 Information Finders, Natl Press Bldg2000 202-347-9200 Emergency Services, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Global Press Review, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Graphics News Service, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Information Bank, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200
RUSSIA:
Global Press and Centre for Information Research Moscow, Russia k...@... (Mr. Kirill Tchashchin) f...@... (Mr. Valery Bardin) phone: +7 095 195-4573
Culpeper:
Alleman, 311 South Main, 22701-3115, 540-825-1595, 540-825-7404. Pettie, 409 Macoy Ave., 22701-2916, 540-825-8236. Usdin, 102 N. Main St. 22701-3053, 540-825-9652
121 W. Locust (CULPEPER):
Finders International, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146
540-825-5054 International Press Club, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146 540-825-5054 Swift Services, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146 540-825-5054 USDIN STEVE, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146
540-825-2577
Warehouse (warehouse sold in 1994):
Arts and Crafts 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Global Press Review, 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Graphics News Services 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Gung-Ho Traders 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Information Bank 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Invisible Store, 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Ourhaus Associates 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001
Reading all this and Alleman being mentioned makes me think of Alias Carlos Allende - The Philadelphia Experiment From A-Z
Search domain www.de173.com/alias-carlos-allende/https://www.de173.com/alias-carlos-allende/ Some kind of something going on, with lies to muddy the water and distract.
Meyers Park Tallahassee FL Arrests 2/4/87 (compiled from the 3+ police reports within the FBILE)
Two men in suits and ties with group of (6) neglected looking children spotted in Meyers Park and confronted by Writer and officers investigating Finders. The two men claimed to be teachers delivering (via van) the children to MEXICO to a school for gifted children they were setting up. When asked about where the parents were they said Washington DC but got increasingly nervous. When told they were going to be arrested for child trafficking one of them fainted and fell on his face, both were then dragged to the police station for questioning.
The children were hungry, bug bitten, and scratched. Most without underwear, and not remembering their last name. They told the police “they had to do ‘good things’ and receive food as a reward.” They also testified they all lived together in Washington DC but had been traveling to different places and staying in campsites and the van. They did not go to school. When asked about their parents, they claimed they had not seen them often, since Christmas, and claimed they were being “weaned from their mothers”. The children stated something to the effect : the women would come downstairs naked, perhaps some sort of ritual.
They did what the adults told them to do, and the adults took orders from The “Game Caller”. One of those orders was to visit a house (in Florida? redacted), but the Game Caller did not let the kids go inside. The child told them the Game Caller would write to them on a computer in the van, telling them what to do; like “babysit” which meant eating the food in the house and “doing whatever the person wanted to do”. Or “taking off the mans clothes”. They suspiciously refused to elaborate, and became uncomfortable when asked about “bad touching”. When asked about where they lived in DC, they said they were in a “big house for children”. Unclear whether DC Police ever responded to a complaint there. They gave an address and phone number of the house in DC.
The two men with several AKAs were sent to county jail on child trafficking charges for processing - and the children were released to HRS .
The Van:
-Computer on which they received their orders from the Game Caller
-p137 A piece of paper titled “The Ballad of Ballads” containing references to Hawaii, San Diego, Miami, and China. Also a house in the mountains, madre reference to The Warehouse
The Warehouse:
-Warranted search yielded a sauna, hot tubs, lots of “computer goods” , lit staged rooms, a theater, and a library containing books on “mind control.” And a Satellite disk on the roof.
The Children:
The children struggled with concepts of time, felt nakedness was a game, were awed by everyday items (stapler and typewriter) , and were not used to using a plumbed bathroom. Two of them tested positive to a hospital rape kit.
Bergasser noted that during October 1993, xxxxx met with United States Congressmen Rose (Florida) to discuss allegations concerning a group known as "Finders". Both Congressman Rose and xxxxxxxxxx concerning these allegations to DOJ. He is concerned that several Congressional subcommittees may be looking at the "Finders" matter and that the TV documentary "48 Hours" plans to air a segment on it.
This really sounds like these people were worried that the FBI was investigating the Finders, not that they were concerned about child trafficking.
I'll add and investigate 3011 Dixwell Ave New Haven, Connecticut on my crosspost regarding addresses and indications They may be still operating. I have found numerous indications. Please feel free to copy paste or weigh in there too.
THE FINDERS WAREHOUSE : 1307 4th St D.C. , Tenant : Seven Seven Wholesale Inc (Est. 1987) and neighboring CP offender. Could THEY still be operating? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3497800
Yeah, I had to go back and fix my original comment to remove the bit about the Finders once I looked at the page you referenced and realized it couldn't have been Mueller.
He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
Perhaps you know about this, as I've brought it up here before, and it's not a pedophile case, as it rather involves Satanism and the CIA, but Mueller was involved in the later stages of the cover-up of the Jeffrey MacDonald case. The MacDonald case (Gunderson was hired as an investigator by MacDonald's lawyers) was what initially led Gunderson into the realm of Satanic conspiracies.
Hmm, I am not familiar with the MacDonald case or at least it isn't ringing a bell right at the moment. Nothing would surprise me about Mueller though. That guy has always been a snake.
The MacDonald case is not widely known about, but in my opinion it is important to know about. If you're interested, look on YouTube for the Jeffrey MacDonald documentary titled "False Witness". Or, here's a link (not sure it will work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCByoakms8 Ted Gunderson has said in talks that before the MacDonald case, he didn't know anything about Satanism or the Illuminati.
Trump was ridiculed by the media a few years ago for tweeting out a photo of Jeffrey MacDonald in relation to honoring Vietnam veterans. The journalists were trying to say that Trump was stupid for making this mistake, but I think it's more likely that he knew exactly who the photo was of.
Correct Mueller has played a role in the Bill Cohen Rod Hatham pedeo scandal, The Finders, Franklin, WTC 93, OKC 95, 9/11 and so many other false flags, psyops, and child sex/poorn/trafficking pedo operation scandals.
But its not just Mueller its the whole system even those designated to play half assed the "heroes
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
In 2009, Barr was briefly of counsel to the firm Kirkland & Ellis. From 2010 until 2017, he advised corporations on government enforcement matters and regulatory litigation; he rejoined Kirkland and Ellis in 2017.[64]
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
An attorney who represented the victims of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual assault said that in 2009, the only person that helped him was then citizen Donald Trump.
Question from reporter: Our current President has had relationships with Epstein in the past and there are those, Katy Johnson and maybe other victims who’ve accused Trump of being involved in things like this.
In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously we’re not in the court of law here right now, but are those claims, although that case was dropped, it was dropped before it went to court. In your opinion as a lawyer, in your experience is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims and whether there will be anything more about that?
Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
Then Barr made sure that Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
That is opinion stated as fact.
do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho.
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
Anything connected to CIA is 100% suspect. Did you compile any of this stuff somewhere? Incidentally, something I noticed when I went to verify the erroneous Mueller claim elsewhere in the thread was that there is only one person who has been Director of both the FBI and CIA: William H. Webster. I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
No, I didn't compile it. But I think I should do a post on v/ElitePedophilia, to have all info in one place. Thanks for inspiring me. :-)
Barr also worked for the CIA, in his younger years.
I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
I don't know enough about FBI history to really form an opinion on that. But I'd imagine that any government agency dealing with secret information and criminal investigations will attract corrupt people and pedos, and then I also think it's unlikely that the pedos controlling the government would not have made sure that both FBI and CIA have corrupt leaders.
Remember, this goes back centuries. It certainly didn't start in the 1980s. If anything, the pedo and corruption problem was even worse back in the days, because noone talked about these crimes, and high level perps always got away with it.
Current thinking is the criminal investigation - just announced by Durham - is the catalyst for revealing massive, long running fuckery by the federal government.
Many of us have known much of this material for years.
Alas, we all have been delegated to Tin Foil Hat land ... as you are probably aware.
One of the HUGE effects of this ~65 megabyte dump from the FBI is that there is now OFFICIAL acknowledgement that, yes, a few scruffy kids and 2 adult overseers were encountered in a Florida park 32 years ago.
And, yes, the intelligence bureaus of several police jurisdictions, detective bureaus, various state police units, the FBI COUNTERINTELLIGENCE unit, the CIA, the US Customs unit were ALL involved ... but, hey, nothing to see here, folks.
Not. Any. More.
This moment, there are multiple THOUSANDS of people all over the globe poring over Finders, Franklin, Dutroux, Gunderson, and many, more.
NOW is the time, Wynter, to educate any and all of these matters as the receptivity threshold has exploded.
Thank you very much for explaining what this entails. I am looking forward to hearing and reading everything that is bought to light. Also yes, I found it odd that everything was dropped as if it was nothing. What souless law enforcement would do so without a thought for those children and not think if they had just done something what the different outcome it could have had. I wonder if those children are adults now or if they perished. So sad.
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Page 46: About the 1979 beat up Ford Van, with 2 adult males, and 6 kids...
Investigation summary: They did nothing wrong. It's a short read, but they found that the kids traveling in the van were in good shape and given parental permission to take a trip with these two guys.
If there's more to it from the document, I didn't see, or find it. Please let me know in reply. I think it's in the file, cause of proximity to what was going on at the time, and the names may match certain parties under investigation. It's redacted, but it's probably Michael Acquino and his buddy Adam Schiff. Just musing. I don't know if that's who was redacted.
"The police had received an anonymous telephone call relative two well-dressed white men wearing suits and ties in Myers Park, (Tallahassee), apparently watching six dirty and unkempt children in the playground area. HOULIHAN and AMMERMAN were near a 1980 Blue Dodge van bearing Virginia license number XHW-557, the inside of which was later described as foul-smelling filled with maps, books, letters, with a mattress situated to the rear of the van which appeared as if it were used as a bed, and the overall appearance of the van gave the impression that all eight persons were living in it.
"The children were covered with insect bites, were very dirty, most of the children were not wearing underwear and all of the children had not been bathed in many days
"The men were arrested and charged with multiple counts of child abuse and lodged in the Leon County Jail. Once in custody the men were somewhat evasive in their answers to the police regarding the children and stated only that they both were the children's teachers and that all were enroute to Mexico to establish a school for brilliant children ...
You're citing a different incident. Though, it's interesting there were multiple 2 males, 6 children scenarios.
If it's the government involved, it makes sense that the party would involve 2 guards and 6 kids in the traveling party. Why they were traveling? Yours is also from 1967. So maybe Feds were doing this shit for a while. Maybe string up all the similar incidences into a spreadsheet? This is getting interesting. Those both went through Tallahassee. Maybe a hub? TPD is looking out for this stuff?
I don't know if there is or not. I was doing some research on MA. On one hand, he looks like Eddy Munster, so he's hard to take seriously. On the other, he was in San Francisco, and involved with the Presidio day care child abuse investigations back in the 80s. Army closed the facility. He was also in the intel community, and probably had/has hooks in DC, other government areas.
Adam Schiff has a connections in Intelligence, and The Standard Hotel; so maybe some overlap. I have never seen a direct connection between the two, but that "Finders" thing gets me thinking maybe they knew each other somehow. Also this video with MA interview, the buy at 2:41 looks like a young Adam to me. Did you know Adam Schiff's wife's name is Eve? Isn't that kinda weird? source
Like, wouldn't it be kinda a perfect circle if this MA guy, who's basically says he's Satan, got with Adam and Eve and got them doing pedo shit? How fucked would that be?
Here's the memo special agent Ramon Martinez wrote at the time.
A Customs memo written by special agent Ramon Martinez (CSR) refers to files “relating to the activities of the organization in different parts of the world, including “London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and Europe.”
Martinez’s memo notes multiple #Finders’ telexes including the ordered purchase of two children in Hong Kong, interest in “bank secrecy situations,” high-tech transfers to the U.K., the group’s interest in terrorism, explosives, and the evasion of law enforcement.
Martinez describes the swift end to his investigation: he was told that all the data was turned over to the State Department which, in turn, advised that “all travel and use of passports by the holders was within the law and no action would be taken."
This despite the fact that passports had been issued to locations including Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam from the late 50's to the mid 70's.
This guy went through an absolute hell. If they weren't trying to kill him or poisoning him, they were trying to discredit him by calling him a disinformation agent. I am so glad he's finally being vindicated. May his soul rest in peace. Amen.
You may want to watch the interviews of Paul Bonacci and Troy Boner (online via utube) as they were young victims in that scandal and interviewed by Gary Caradori.
Caradori himself - along with his 8 year old son - was killed when they were flying back to Nebraska from Chicago (plane blown up) with incriminating photos of high level pedos taken by photographer Rusty Nelson.
Troy Boner was killed while unsuccessfully fleeing his tormentors.
This shit is VERY deep, VERY dark, and absolutely needs an all hands push to bring these abominations to an end.
senpaithatignoresyou ago
Does anyone know anything about La Mora? the mormons that got killed the other day were from there, and i recall that they had some human trafficking connections as well, but i am not 100% sure if my memory is correct.
The timing of it is setting off red flags. I have a sick feeling more leaks are coming soon.
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Huge dig on The Finders:
https://pastebin.com/Tk0DwjX3
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
McMartin PreSchool Tunnels !?!? p. 48-49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V73VcRyRDlI
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
FreeThinkers Commune 409 Macoy Avenue. Is this "The Mountain House"?
https://infidels.org/kiosk/article/a-freethinkers-haven-grows-inculpeper-257.html
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Podge512 ago
Metokur did a stream on the docs. They make reference to the McMartin preschool abuse case and secret tunnels under Washington D.C.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3iqUcok0nwjs/
catsickle ago
How can we find the identity of the redacted 'Game Caller' from the documents? On page 133 he is described as a white male, but all other information is redacted. It describes some of his ways of communicating and controlling the group.
3141592653 ago
Marion Pettie
darkknight111 ago
https://gab.com/FranklinFreek/posts/103046874798340003
Some nice sumnations of a /pol dig into the Finders.
Potential connections to NXIVM.
darkknight111 ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/CodesUcq/status/1188181711667884032
Near Broward County.
toknwok ago
MCMARTIN PRESCHOOL. Why did the Finders drop by FBI Vault include two documents related to McMartin Preschool? The documents are detailed accounts of the underground tunnels at McMartin that were later debunked. The tunnels as well as the McMartin case have nothing to do with the Finders cult. (Nothing overt that any of us know about.) So why would they be tucked into the Finders files? Is the FBI trying to tell us something? Was it a mistake?
3141592653 ago
The tunnels were NOT debunked
bdmthrfkr ago
(((debunked))) why does this word keep popping up?
3141592653 ago
Disinfo campaigns
toknwok ago
I dunno... did you read my comment below my post?
toknwok ago
BTW I'm not at all implying that the tunnels were not real. Just saying that the defense, etc, debunked their existence which ended up helping the McMartins go free.
kestrel9 ago
I found this video helpful Who Will Find What The Finders Hide? (Full Documentary)
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
p224 Sergeant John H. Stitcher MPD dead after investigating CIA Finders connection
http://www.cavdef.org/w/index.php?title=The_Finders
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
The DC Cult House :
3918-3920 West Street N.W. Washington DC
The (two) Residential Properties at the end of the block back up to a large forested Whitehaven Park. From recent GPS sat maps it seems there is a community garden behind the units, reminding one of the Mothers pushing healthy eating habits, and the raw fruits and vegetables the children claimed to be surviving off. Whitehaven is attached to Glover Archbold Park making up quite a large swath of open forest land miles of hiking routs including Glover Archbold Trail. The park borders Georgetown University, Guy Mason Recreation Center and contains tunnels that lead to the Canal towpath.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1987/02/07/officials-describe-cult-rituals-in-child-abuse-case/11f05df1-48e0-41f7-b46d-249c0bd2bc39/
Glover Park looks like a place to get lost, scratched and bug bitten:
https://www.yelp.com/biz/glover-archbold-trail-washington
https://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/glover-archbold-trail-washington?select=IvOul7ZlofrRWsfLIVCJpw&utm_campaign=www_photo_share_popup&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_source=(direct)
PLAN CHECK for PROPOSED ADDITION OF A CELLAR/ BASEMENT April,2,2014 :
I looked for recent activity and found a Plan check document for the renovation and building of a CELLAR/BASEMENT Level. Besides the obvious suspect nature of a basement unit, they have two Unit 7s which are the same square footage but on different floors. Perhaps they wished to make one of these units disappear off the records.
https://dcra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcra/release_content/attachments/Plan%20Set%20dated%204-2-14.pdf
Note they have two Unit 7s which are the same square footage but on different floors. Perhaps they wished to make one of these units disappear off the records.
https://dcra.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcra/release_content/attachments/Det%20Let%20re%203918%20W%20Street%2C%20NW%20to%20Schneck%2011-14-14.pdf
AND A SEX OFFENDER STILL LIVES THERE!
Registered SEX OFFENDER Clemente Lara (Eleazer), 45
http://sor.csosa.net/ViewImage.aspx?src=8121
http://sor.csosa.net/GenerateBulletinPublic.aspx?id=vzL%2bKRDf5kTMuBSyHTrm0Q%3d%3d
CHARGE: Sexual Contact No Consent … Insanity Plea … Time Served
Date of Conviction : 03-14-2005
Class of Offense : A
Place of Conviction : Colorado
Case No. : C004CR1920
Date of Birth : 01/07/1974
Age : 45
Height : 5.7"
Weight : 180
Hair : Black
Eyes : Brown
Identifying Marks:
Cut mark on left rear side of neck
HOME
3918 W STREET NW
3900 Block of W STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20007
Map Address
WORK
1100 Block of 15TH STREET NW
WASHINGTON DC 20005
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
ALSO FOUND A CHILD PORN SEX OFFENDER NEAR THE WAREHOUSE PROPERTY: 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001
http://www.industriousre.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Screen-Shot-2017-04-06-at-9.14.39-AM.png
http://www.industriousrealty.com/portfolio/1307-4th-st/
This is not historical data, but current, with correlations to the Finders case and the trends from similar research. While there is no direct link to the Finders, this Aerospace Entrepreneur, GW University Professor, satellite/HAM/internet communications and data expert registered with the FCC, and convicted of CHILD PORN, -has an office walking distance from a warehouse notorious for the same crimes. He is not your run of the mill creep either, he has scientific papers published, is developing small satellites, and does not seem to be very affected by being on THE LIST.
Sumadra (maybe Samudra) Haque
Position: Aerospace Systems Integration Engineering Panel Secretary
Affiliation: George Washington University
Technical Areas of Interest: Aerospace Systems Integration Engineering
Email: [email protected]
Address: Washington DC
Resume: Engineering Director. B.S. Computer Science, M.S. Space Studies with Honors. Previous: Managing Director, PraDeshta Limited (1991-2005); Director Broadband Technologies, B2 Technology and Consulting Services, Inc. (2005-2010).
Company: Tek Terrain LLC
Engineering Director
https://www.tekterrain.com/blwp/
1425 4th St SW #A115
Washington, DC 20024
United States
Inquiries: (202) 812-3325
E-mail: [email protected]
Affiliated Aerospace Organization
http://ieee-aess.org/contact/samudra-haque
He is also registered as a Technician for the FCC
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/license.jsp?licKey=679304
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Registered to the 3920 address in case they are bold enough to be continuing operations...
Stonewalls a Non Profit and an LLC for Rebecca Dickson (from Reno NV)
http://www.nonprofitfacts.com/DC/Thestonewalls.html
https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2bsm7q/rebecca-dickson
80087355 ago
Good reading. But much is redacted as well. Particularly the leaders names, the CIA involvement, the NAVY connections, and most likely government official's names.
SandHog ago
Here is an article that helps fill in the blanks to a lot of the names that were redacted and includes some interviews with the people involved.
80087355 ago
Worth the read. But overall still seems like honest answers.
We all know it is like to disconnect from the matrix or learn how to do it.
Hive minds will always try to suck you back in or eat you alive.
Still say it is stargate/centerlane/gateway program/grillflame/gondola wish/ related.
80087355 ago
ty
darkknight111 ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/TweetStreetInt1/status/1187828307338776576
Some results on Pages 48 and 49. Confirmed tunnels under one of the schools mentioned in the case.
think- ago
Convo on this thread:
@SandHog @gamepwn
darkknight111 ago
Page 43. Sergeant Stycher was told to “step away from the Finders case.
Page 42 claims parental consent. Possible accomplices?
wolfman411 ago
sorry, I'm completely in the dark to what I'm reading here, I mean I recognize a lot of the names involved, but what the hell is all this? Can someone give me a crash course?
think- ago
This is about a child rape and trafficking cult, connected to the CIA and other government agencies and actors, and with ties to pedo rings abroad, called 'The Finders'.
Initially, a customs officer found evidence (you can read about it here in the linked PDF file https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3486505/21081755/10#21081755), but the investigation was squashed by the State Department (Reagan administration).
The Reagan administration has also been infamous for letting underage boys into the White House who were then sexually exploited (the trafficking was run by Craig Spence, a friend of Roy Cohn, who was Trump's friend and mentor).
This was exposed in the Franklin Scandal case. You can find videos on YouTube about it.
Lansing-Michigan ago
Brice Taylor, says in Thanks for the Memories , that Reagan used her as a presidential model......mind controlled sex slave.The most brutal of all the politicians was robert byrd .
Fetalpig ago
My favorite part is where they claim the Finders were an arm of the CIA doing propaganda work for them. The guys that had 6 children dirty with no underwear on only spent 1o days in jail. Also they have a leader called the Game caller. He and a lady named Isabel were in fact agents from (redacted) from 1950 to 1971. Their original name is Finders Keepers. The farm in Virgina had caged for children. The Information from Gunderson about the Mc Martin case is fairly old,but interesting that they kept notes on his summary of events. The CIA is a very gross organization that needs to be dismantled.
urbanmoving ago
fun fact..it was 10 children...that became 6
YogSoggoth ago
But 2 were adopted? I am bad at math ... but Hey now!
allahead ago
pg 43
You know what would be great? If info like this wasn't redacted, or the FBI had done something about it, instead of sitting on it for 30 fucking years.
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Xxxxx!? Xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxx xx xxxxx xxxx....
Right?! Flabbergasted by these redactions and inactions....
Pg 137 after finding an underground CP studio and spa, equipped with a satellite, and a bunch of computer goods :
rickman2 ago
Reminds me of that place in Hawaii.
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Which place in Hawaii?
This was definitely a large scale operation if they had a sat link way back then...
allahead ago
Probably too busy jerking off.
YingYangMom ago
This is a thread I posted more than 2 and a half years ago. It includes the entire Ted Gunderson file, including the Finders' Cult and much, much more. It was then flagged as "possible disinformation" by Millenial Falcon which I didn't agree with but had to endure. I always believed Ted Gunderson was the real deal. Now we all know for sure. Thank you Lord for this!
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1517987
Joe10jo ago
So happy to hear you say that about Gunderson!
21yearsofdigging ago
I met GUNDERSON and he really helped me when I was being tracked, followed and harassed back in 1995-99. I even stayed at his place in vegas and believe me, he wasn't exactly living large. Gunderson, when I told him about my harassment and breakins, told me, "yeah, they can do all that. You are on the list". I know some people have said he was a double agent but then why was he driving around in a kinda beatup car and living in a crummy apartment.
Wynterwhisper ago
What's with the last name Delecto? Like Romney had a last name for a fake Twitter account with the same last name right?
YingYangMom ago
PierrE DelectO (first and last letters capitalized) = PEDO
I discovered on this thread http://archive.is/n86BU
So, isn't it interesting that Peter Delecto could be 'delightful Peter'? Peter can lead to many other meanings like Pete for Pan in PeterPan, but most intriguing of all to me personally is that Peter in French is Pierre. Which in turn means a STONE, "a simple stone, remember the name" (Kim Clement prophecy) AND Stone, or Pierre is synonymous to caillou (a small and simple stone) which interestingly is the title name of a french cartoon that infamously was connected to this child abuse video that many believe is or was John Podesta.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1672360
Whats more, on my first ever post here titled "What is Pizza PAC" https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1466521
(At the time, I was timidly entering the research and did not think to archive, which almost immediately led to the deletion of the evidence) I got 2 upvoats and no comments on it: that's how fast it was taken down. But I remember seeing Mitt Romney's picture, along with BHO and two others 'delecting' themselves eating slices of pizza appearing on the tumblr page of this PizzaPac, which I found to be very curious. Why would politicians be eating pizza, praising how good pizza is and how it should be part of every American's life et al? Why would they even start a Pac called PizzaPac ? I mean, hello?
Wynterwhisper ago
That's precisely why I bought it up. Good investigating. I found it interesting that this author of the article chose that same last name.
auchtung ago
https://web.archive.org/web/20161211014356/http://pizzapac.tumblr.com:80/
YingYangMom ago
Yes! that's the one, thanks. Aw, some of the links are broken at the top, but you can see, it is very weird. So, there were 3, not 4 people. Don't know the third one's name. Anyway, it sure sounds like code words to me. Here's an example:
Ahem.
SandHog ago
Third person looks like Herman Cain. He was CEO of Godfathers pizza for a decade or so.
deleteme123 ago
Reposting old dig into Finders
Quite a few Jews in their cult . They were a group of communist Satanists, both Jewish creations.
FINDERS
Marion David Pettie, Jr age 75, born Nethers, VA Retired Air Force Intelligence in 1956 as Master Sgt. Wife: Isabell Pettie (Deceased)/CIA Support Sec. COS Germany Sons: George Pettie (Air America/Vietnam) David Marion Pettie (member of cult: The Community)
ACTIVE MEMBERS:
Alleman, Ronald L. "Lucky" "Merry Man" Berns, Stanley Grogan, Mary Herbst, Christian (KRIS) Knauth, Kristin Reiss, Theodore G. (wife: Ann) Schoen, Allen Silverstone, Stuart Miles (aka Steve Learner) Winn, Randolph Usdin, Steve
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
OUT OF FINDERS:
Ammerman, Douglas Edward (aka Kenny Rogers, Earnest Angel, I Betterson) Arico, Paula M. (children: Mary and John Paul Pope/married Holwell) Beltz, Judith Friedman Cox, John J. Evans, Judith Gabriel, Susan E. Holwell, Michael James (aka Houlihan/children: See Arico) Lawton, George Livingstone, Patricia H. (son: Max) Meyer, Robert M. Roseberry, Patricia Said, Carolyn (daughter: Bee Bee) Sartor, Valerie Shapiro, Jan Sherwood, Diane E. Sylvester, Barbara ("Bonnie"/died Jan 1982/Pettie's girlfriend) Terrell, Robert Gardner "Toby" (aka Ghingiz K. Plato) Ubois, Jeff (married Ma Li, from Canton China). Van Deusen, Thomas R. Wagg, Terry.
FRONTS:
Dorm: Finders, 3920 W St NW, 20007-1774 202-337-9814 Finders, J. 3918 W St NW, 20007-1773 202-338-8163 Lucky Womens Travelers Center: 3918 W St NW, 20007-1773 202-333-9696.
National Press Club:
Global Press, 529 14th St, NW Wash 20045-1000 202-662-7431 Bio World, 529 14th St, NW Wash 20045-1000 202-662-7431 AAA-1 Information Finders, Natl Press Bldg2000 202-347-9200 Emergency Services, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Global Press Review, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Graphics News Service, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200 Information Bank, Natl Press Bldg, 20004 202-347-9200
RUSSIA:
Global Press and Centre for Information Research Moscow, Russia k...@... (Mr. Kirill Tchashchin) f...@... (Mr. Valery Bardin) phone: +7 095 195-4573
Culpeper:
Alleman, 311 South Main, 22701-3115, 540-825-1595, 540-825-7404. Pettie, 409 Macoy Ave., 22701-2916, 540-825-8236. Usdin, 102 N. Main St. 22701-3053, 540-825-9652
121 W. Locust (CULPEPER):
Finders International, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146
540-825-5054 International Press Club, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146 540-825-5054 Swift Services, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146 540-825-5054 USDIN STEVE, 121 W LOCUST ST, CULPEPER, VA 22701-3146
540-825-2577
Warehouse (warehouse sold in 1994):
Arts and Crafts 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Global Press Review, 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Graphics News Services 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Gung-Ho Traders 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Information Bank 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Invisible Store, 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001 Ourhaus Associates 1307 4th St NE 20002-7001
Internet:
http://www.clark.net/pub/global/home.html glo...@... (Kris Herbst) sus...@... (Steve Usdin) 1-202-662-7431 and Fax 662-7433
skept...@... (unknown/but definitely a Finder)
http://www.georgetown.edu/reiss/home.html
http://xville.com/xville/ (now inactive) The Xville home page was produced by Ted Reiss:
rei...@... (Ted Reiss) tedre...@... (Ted Reiss)
Much more @
http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board2/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=37950&start=15
YogSoggoth ago
Reading all this and Alleman being mentioned makes me think of Alias Carlos Allende - The Philadelphia Experiment From A-Z
Search domain www.de173.com/alias-carlos-allende/https://www.de173.com/alias-carlos-allende/ Some kind of something going on, with lies to muddy the water and distract.
Forgetmenot ago
Wow good dig.
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Meyers Park Tallahassee FL Arrests 2/4/87 (compiled from the 3+ police reports within the FBILE)
Two men in suits and ties with group of (6) neglected looking children spotted in Meyers Park and confronted by Writer and officers investigating Finders. The two men claimed to be teachers delivering (via van) the children to MEXICO to a school for gifted children they were setting up. When asked about where the parents were they said Washington DC but got increasingly nervous. When told they were going to be arrested for child trafficking one of them fainted and fell on his face, both were then dragged to the police station for questioning.
The children were hungry, bug bitten, and scratched. Most without underwear, and not remembering their last name. They told the police “they had to do ‘good things’ and receive food as a reward.” They also testified they all lived together in Washington DC but had been traveling to different places and staying in campsites and the van. They did not go to school. When asked about their parents, they claimed they had not seen them often, since Christmas, and claimed they were being “weaned from their mothers”. The children stated something to the effect : the women would come downstairs naked, perhaps some sort of ritual.
They did what the adults told them to do, and the adults took orders from The “Game Caller”. One of those orders was to visit a house (in Florida? redacted), but the Game Caller did not let the kids go inside. The child told them the Game Caller would write to them on a computer in the van, telling them what to do; like “babysit” which meant eating the food in the house and “doing whatever the person wanted to do”. Or “taking off the mans clothes”. They suspiciously refused to elaborate, and became uncomfortable when asked about “bad touching”. When asked about where they lived in DC, they said they were in a “big house for children”. Unclear whether DC Police ever responded to a complaint there. They gave an address and phone number of the house in DC.
The two men with several AKAs were sent to county jail on child trafficking charges for processing - and the children were released to HRS .
The Van:
-Computer on which they received their orders from the Game Caller
-p137 A piece of paper titled “The Ballad of Ballads” containing references to Hawaii, San Diego, Miami, and China. Also a house in the mountains, madre reference to The Warehouse
The Warehouse:
-Warranted search yielded a sauna, hot tubs, lots of “computer goods” , lit staged rooms, a theater, and a library containing books on “mind control.” And a Satellite disk on the roof.
The Children:
The children struggled with concepts of time, felt nakedness was a game, were awed by everyday items (stapler and typewriter) , and were not used to using a plumbed bathroom. Two of them tested positive to a hospital rape kit.
MolochHunter ago
rumored Tunnels under McMartin preschool - denied by the media at the time - were known to be confirmed by FBI
https://twitter.com/TweetStreetInt1/status/1187828307338776576
allahead ago
This really sounds like these people were worried that the FBI was investigating the Finders, not that they were concerned about child trafficking.
think- ago
Absolutely. We should look into Congressman Rose.
deleteme123 ago
Page 192 of PDF has the following address:
Here's info on the property:
..wtf..
YogSoggoth ago
Built in 1900? Is that a typo? If not, it would be one of the oldest office spaces in the USA.
rickman2 ago
Check out that address on Google maps.
ORDOTEMPLIINTERNETIS ago
Great digging @rickman2 and @deleteme123 !!
I'll add and investigate 3011 Dixwell Ave New Haven, Connecticut on my crosspost regarding addresses and indications They may be still operating. I have found numerous indications. Please feel free to copy paste or weigh in there too.
Can I include you goat's research ?
deleteme123 ago
Good find. Still operating, ya think?
rickman2 ago
I guess so. The address is still on their website.
Here are some shots from Google maps - https://imgur.com/a/e0nC9hb
darkknight111 ago
https://mobile.twitter.com/KachinaGTTO/status/1187862431365615616
One of the men who helped silence this case is currently one of the FISA court judges involved in the Russian Collusion Hoax.
rickman2 ago
And his wife was a director for a kids charity.
fogdryer ago
Roberts?
darkknight111 ago
Page 5 of PDF already has something important.
Look at the line “FM Director FBI.”
That means “From Director FBI”.
This actually tells us much about who was writing this pdf.
ROBERT MUELLER. The fucker who silenced the investigation into The Finders.
Forgetmenot ago
Oh wow. I did not realize this.
think- ago
It's not true. Mueller wasn't even working for the FBI at the time. Which doesn't mean he's one of the good guys though.
TheSubversives ago
Maybe I'm not following correctly, but can you explain further?
Mueller wasn't director when these docs were written in 1993.
darkknight111 ago
IIRC he was in the FBI at that time.0
SandHog ago
Incorrect. Louis Freeh was the Director at that time. Mueller was in private practice as a lawyer from 1993-1998. He didn't join the FBI until 2001.
darkknight111 ago
Good to know. Must have misremembered it.
SandHog ago
Yeah, I had to go back and fix my original comment to remove the bit about the Finders once I looked at the page you referenced and realized it couldn't have been Mueller.
SandHog ago
He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
Zorrilla ago
Perhaps you know about this, as I've brought it up here before, and it's not a pedophile case, as it rather involves Satanism and the CIA, but Mueller was involved in the later stages of the cover-up of the Jeffrey MacDonald case. The MacDonald case (Gunderson was hired as an investigator by MacDonald's lawyers) was what initially led Gunderson into the realm of Satanic conspiracies.
SandHog ago
Hmm, I am not familiar with the MacDonald case or at least it isn't ringing a bell right at the moment. Nothing would surprise me about Mueller though. That guy has always been a snake.
Zorrilla ago
The MacDonald case is not widely known about, but in my opinion it is important to know about. If you're interested, look on YouTube for the Jeffrey MacDonald documentary titled "False Witness". Or, here's a link (not sure it will work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCByoakms8 Ted Gunderson has said in talks that before the MacDonald case, he didn't know anything about Satanism or the Illuminati.
Trump was ridiculed by the media a few years ago for tweeting out a photo of Jeffrey MacDonald in relation to honoring Vietnam veterans. The journalists were trying to say that Trump was stupid for making this mistake, but I think it's more likely that he knew exactly who the photo was of.
SandHog ago
Thanks, that is very interesting. I'll have to check it out as I am definitely unfamiliar with this case.
Zorrilla ago
You're welcome - I think you will find it worth looking into. Here's an article by one of MacDonald's lawyers in which he describes his encounters with Mueller: https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017/10/17/silverglate-how-robert-mueller-tried-entrap-me
urbanmoving ago
Correct Mueller has played a role in the Bill Cohen Rod Hatham pedeo scandal, The Finders, Franklin, WTC 93, OKC 95, 9/11 and so many other false flags, psyops, and child sex/poorn/trafficking pedo operation scandals.
But its not just Mueller its the whole system even those designated to play half assed the "heroes
SandHog ago
Agreed.
think- ago
Well, there's a reason he and William Barr have been close friends for more than 30 years....
SandHog ago
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
think- ago
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
kestrel9 ago
I think it's wrong to assume Barr is a pedo.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
About Kirkland & Ellis
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
That is opinion stated as fact.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
@SandHog
think- ago
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
SandHog ago
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
@kestrel9
think- ago
That's fine. You know I always get carried away when I start discussing Trump and Barr.... :-P
SandHog ago
Haha, yes I do.
think- ago
:-)
think- ago
@SandHog, apologies, forgot to the @ in my comment above when I tagged you.
SandHog ago
No worries :)
think- ago
:-)
SandHog ago
Anything connected to CIA is 100% suspect. Did you compile any of this stuff somewhere? Incidentally, something I noticed when I went to verify the erroneous Mueller claim elsewhere in the thread was that there is only one person who has been Director of both the FBI and CIA: William H. Webster. I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
Coloradical2 ago
The FBI has always been corrupt. They have been framing and blackmailing innocent people since the days of J. Edgar Hoover.
think- ago
Yep, exactly.
think- ago
No, I didn't compile it. But I think I should do a post on v/ElitePedophilia, to have all info in one place. Thanks for inspiring me. :-)
Barr also worked for the CIA, in his younger years.
I don't know enough about FBI history to really form an opinion on that. But I'd imagine that any government agency dealing with secret information and criminal investigations will attract corrupt people and pedos, and then I also think it's unlikely that the pedos controlling the government would not have made sure that both FBI and CIA have corrupt leaders.
Remember, this goes back centuries. It certainly didn't start in the 1980s. If anything, the pedo and corruption problem was even worse back in the days, because noone talked about these crimes, and high level perps always got away with it.
MolochHunter ago
Mueller also party to the Franklin coverup
https://twitter.com/AussieComitatus/status/1187887957543272448
mintmachine ago
CIA whistleblower on The Finders https://cathyfox.wordpress.com/2017/03/17/secrets-of-the-cias-global-sex-slave-industry-2-by-sue-arrigo-md/
MolochHunter ago
why did they do this the day after Barr upgrades the Russia probe to a criminal investigation?
does it dovetail, or are they trying to distract us
Onetime1 ago
Moloch
Current thinking is the criminal investigation - just announced by Durham - is the catalyst for revealing massive, long running fuckery by the federal government.
Wynterwhisper ago
There's no way this was just released.. I read about this a long time ago. Are you saying this was just released?
think- ago
The document you might be referring to was the document the customs agent wrote at the time -
https://voat.co/v/ElitePedophilia/3404362
This has been public for a long time.
There were also contemporary newspaper articles discussing the case, and of course citizen investigators had looked into it.
But now they released many of the contemporary documents the agencies and the State Department wrote, discussing the (coverup of) the case.
That's why this is HUGE. :-)
Wynterwhisper ago
Thanks so much! I think you are correct! Any drops so far? Been so busy lately with so much I haven't been on in a couple days.
think- ago
No, we are still sifting through the documents. Wish I had more time, sigh.
I will ping you if I think something might be interesting. :-)
Wynterwhisper ago
Much appreciated!
think- ago
Anytime. :-)
Onetime1 ago
Wynter
Many of us have known much of this material for years.
Alas, we all have been delegated to Tin Foil Hat land ... as you are probably aware.
One of the HUGE effects of this ~65 megabyte dump from the FBI is that there is now OFFICIAL acknowledgement that, yes, a few scruffy kids and 2 adult overseers were encountered in a Florida park 32 years ago.
And, yes, the intelligence bureaus of several police jurisdictions, detective bureaus, various state police units, the FBI COUNTERINTELLIGENCE unit, the CIA, the US Customs unit were ALL involved ... but, hey, nothing to see here, folks.
Not. Any. More.
This moment, there are multiple THOUSANDS of people all over the globe poring over Finders, Franklin, Dutroux, Gunderson, and many, more.
NOW is the time, Wynter, to educate any and all of these matters as the receptivity threshold has exploded.
Wynterwhisper ago
Where can I follow what comes out? Or will there be threads posted?
think- ago
Yep, we will post about it on v/pizzagate.
Wynterwhisper ago
Looking forward to to it! Thank you! Wish I had time to really go through everything!
Wynterwhisper ago
Thank you very much for explaining what this entails. I am looking forward to hearing and reading everything that is bought to light. Also yes, I found it odd that everything was dropped as if it was nothing. What souless law enforcement would do so without a thought for those children and not think if they had just done something what the different outcome it could have had. I wonder if those children are adults now or if they perished. So sad.
MolochHunter ago
i dont know when the info was released on the FBI website, but the FBI twitter account just tweeted the link 6 hours ago
Wynterwhisper ago
Thanks for letting me know. I was twilight zone for a sec there. Lol
BarbaricHamSammy ago
Did the finders get Adam Walsh? That shit scarred my community in Florida for decades.
Mammy ago
Current active thread on /pol here: Finders Thread
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OnSeveralWatchLists ago
I dunno what's going on, but I'll figure it out and help. Somehow. I quess. No matter what, yet another copy is saved for posterity.
littlestown ago
MOAB!
think- ago
@darkknight111 @gamepwn @kestrel9 @new4now @SandHog - we need help digging over here. :-)
kestrel9 ago
Thank you for the ping, when I'm able I will dig (have been and going to be away from computer)
think- ago
Welcome, @kestrel9. No worries, just thought you mind find the new documents drop interesting. :-)
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sinclair ago
Page 46: About the 1979 beat up Ford Van, with 2 adult males, and 6 kids...
Investigation summary: They did nothing wrong. It's a short read, but they found that the kids traveling in the van were in good shape and given parental permission to take a trip with these two guys.
If there's more to it from the document, I didn't see, or find it. Please let me know in reply. I think it's in the file, cause of proximity to what was going on at the time, and the names may match certain parties under investigation. It's redacted, but it's probably Michael Acquino and his buddy Adam Schiff. Just musing. I don't know if that's who was redacted.
parnellsUprising ago
Nothing wrong huh?
https://archive.org/stream/ConspiracyOfSilenceTranscriptFranklinCoverUp/Finders-Document-35_djvu.txt
sinclair ago
You're citing a different incident. Though, it's interesting there were multiple 2 males, 6 children scenarios.
If it's the government involved, it makes sense that the party would involve 2 guards and 6 kids in the traveling party. Why they were traveling? Yours is also from 1967. So maybe Feds were doing this shit for a while. Maybe string up all the similar incidences into a spreadsheet? This is getting interesting. Those both went through Tallahassee. Maybe a hub? TPD is looking out for this stuff?
Donutterrian ago
Not the guy you replied to but I see he didn't respond... That source should be a transcript of the Conspiracy of Silence documentary.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/conspiracy-of-silence/
sinclair ago
oic. Thanks, that clears things up a bit. The other source was a bit choppy.
think- ago
There is a Michael Aquino connection to Adam Schiff - for real, or are you just kidding?
sinclair ago
I don't know if there is or not. I was doing some research on MA. On one hand, he looks like Eddy Munster, so he's hard to take seriously. On the other, he was in San Francisco, and involved with the Presidio day care child abuse investigations back in the 80s. Army closed the facility. He was also in the intel community, and probably had/has hooks in DC, other government areas.
Adam Schiff has a connections in Intelligence, and The Standard Hotel; so maybe some overlap. I have never seen a direct connection between the two, but that "Finders" thing gets me thinking maybe they knew each other somehow. Also this video with MA interview, the buy at 2:41 looks like a young Adam to me. Did you know Adam Schiff's wife's name is Eve? Isn't that kinda weird? source
Like, wouldn't it be kinda a perfect circle if this MA guy, who's basically says he's Satan, got with Adam and Eve and got them doing pedo shit? How fucked would that be?
veteran88 ago
Find the finders
Slay them all
Fetalpig ago
FTF.
think- ago
Oh wow.
Here's the memo special agent Ramon Martinez wrote at the time.
A Customs memo written by special agent Ramon Martinez (CSR) refers to files “relating to the activities of the organization in different parts of the world, including “London, Germany, the Bahamas, Japan, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Africa, Costa Rica, and Europe.”
Martinez’s memo notes multiple #Finders’ telexes including the ordered purchase of two children in Hong Kong, interest in “bank secrecy situations,” high-tech transfers to the U.K., the group’s interest in terrorism, explosives, and the evasion of law enforcement.
Martinez describes the swift end to his investigation: he was told that all the data was turned over to the State Department which, in turn, advised that “all travel and use of passports by the holders was within the law and no action would be taken."
This despite the fact that passports had been issued to locations including Moscow, North Korea, and North Vietnam from the late 50's to the mid 70's.
https://twitter.com/ElizabethleaVos/status/1165745189140520960
PDF warning
https://web.archive.org/web/20190302092638/http://tedgunderson.info/index_htm_files/US%20Customs%20Service%20Report%20of%20Investigation%20FINDERS.pdf
WaPo article about the arrest of two Finders members -
https://archive.is/GT8QX
CIA and-State Department decided that no further investigation was necessary. Of course... :-(
Onetime1 ago
Outstanding and important!!!
As of this (6:00 PM EST posting, Friday, 10/25) the pol autists are going nuts tearing into this stuff.
Very preliminary look seems to vindicate Ted Gunderson, SRA victim stories, amongst other revelations.
YingYangMom ago
This guy went through an absolute hell. If they weren't trying to kill him or poisoning him, they were trying to discredit him by calling him a disinformation agent. I am so glad he's finally being vindicated. May his soul rest in peace. Amen.
Edit: grammatical error fixed.
Vindicator ago
Giving this the Help flair and stickying. Thanks for posting :-)
bdmthrfkr ago
As a mod you should give some of your best researchers assignments, i.e. you do page 10-20 etc. and you do page 20-30.
Here is an archive of the /pol/ page on this:
https://archive.is/zpdoR
Just my 2 cents but this is a big one.
parnellsUprising ago
Some sick fuckers, this should give a good description of the crimes committed if you may be ignorant of this travesty like I was:
https://archive.org/stream/ConspiracyOfSilenceTranscriptFranklinCoverUp/Finders-Document-35_djvu.txt
Onetime1 ago
Parnell
You may want to watch the interviews of Paul Bonacci and Troy Boner (online via utube) as they were young victims in that scandal and interviewed by Gary Caradori.
Caradori himself - along with his 8 year old son - was killed when they were flying back to Nebraska from Chicago (plane blown up) with incriminating photos of high level pedos taken by photographer Rusty Nelson.
Troy Boner was killed while unsuccessfully fleeing his tormentors.
This shit is VERY deep, VERY dark, and absolutely needs an all hands push to bring these abominations to an end.
Diggernicks ago
Smoke the /pol pay the toll