Yeah, I had to go back and fix my original comment to remove the bit about the Finders once I looked at the page you referenced and realized it couldn't have been Mueller.
He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
Perhaps you know about this, as I've brought it up here before, and it's not a pedophile case, as it rather involves Satanism and the CIA, but Mueller was involved in the later stages of the cover-up of the Jeffrey MacDonald case. The MacDonald case (Gunderson was hired as an investigator by MacDonald's lawyers) was what initially led Gunderson into the realm of Satanic conspiracies.
Hmm, I am not familiar with the MacDonald case or at least it isn't ringing a bell right at the moment. Nothing would surprise me about Mueller though. That guy has always been a snake.
The MacDonald case is not widely known about, but in my opinion it is important to know about. If you're interested, look on YouTube for the Jeffrey MacDonald documentary titled "False Witness". Or, here's a link (not sure it will work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCByoakms8 Ted Gunderson has said in talks that before the MacDonald case, he didn't know anything about Satanism or the Illuminati.
Trump was ridiculed by the media a few years ago for tweeting out a photo of Jeffrey MacDonald in relation to honoring Vietnam veterans. The journalists were trying to say that Trump was stupid for making this mistake, but I think it's more likely that he knew exactly who the photo was of.
Correct Mueller has played a role in the Bill Cohen Rod Hatham pedeo scandal, The Finders, Franklin, WTC 93, OKC 95, 9/11 and so many other false flags, psyops, and child sex/poorn/trafficking pedo operation scandals.
But its not just Mueller its the whole system even those designated to play half assed the "heroes
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
In 2009, Barr was briefly of counsel to the firm Kirkland & Ellis. From 2010 until 2017, he advised corporations on government enforcement matters and regulatory litigation; he rejoined Kirkland and Ellis in 2017.[64]
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
An attorney who represented the victims of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual assault said that in 2009, the only person that helped him was then citizen Donald Trump.
Question from reporter: Our current President has had relationships with Epstein in the past and there are those, Katy Johnson and maybe other victims who’ve accused Trump of being involved in things like this.
In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously we’re not in the court of law here right now, but are those claims, although that case was dropped, it was dropped before it went to court. In your opinion as a lawyer, in your experience is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims and whether there will be anything more about that?
Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
Then Barr made sure that Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
That is opinion stated as fact.
do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho.
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
Anything connected to CIA is 100% suspect. Did you compile any of this stuff somewhere? Incidentally, something I noticed when I went to verify the erroneous Mueller claim elsewhere in the thread was that there is only one person who has been Director of both the FBI and CIA: William H. Webster. I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
No, I didn't compile it. But I think I should do a post on v/ElitePedophilia, to have all info in one place. Thanks for inspiring me. :-)
Barr also worked for the CIA, in his younger years.
I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
I don't know enough about FBI history to really form an opinion on that. But I'd imagine that any government agency dealing with secret information and criminal investigations will attract corrupt people and pedos, and then I also think it's unlikely that the pedos controlling the government would not have made sure that both FBI and CIA have corrupt leaders.
Remember, this goes back centuries. It certainly didn't start in the 1980s. If anything, the pedo and corruption problem was even worse back in the days, because noone talked about these crimes, and high level perps always got away with it.
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darkknight111 ago
Page 5 of PDF already has something important.
Look at the line “FM Director FBI.”
That means “From Director FBI”.
This actually tells us much about who was writing this pdf.
ROBERT MUELLER. The fucker who silenced the investigation into The Finders.
Forgetmenot ago
Oh wow. I did not realize this.
think- ago
It's not true. Mueller wasn't even working for the FBI at the time. Which doesn't mean he's one of the good guys though.
TheSubversives ago
Maybe I'm not following correctly, but can you explain further?
Mueller wasn't director when these docs were written in 1993.
darkknight111 ago
IIRC he was in the FBI at that time.0
SandHog ago
Incorrect. Louis Freeh was the Director at that time. Mueller was in private practice as a lawyer from 1993-1998. He didn't join the FBI until 2001.
darkknight111 ago
Good to know. Must have misremembered it.
SandHog ago
Yeah, I had to go back and fix my original comment to remove the bit about the Finders once I looked at the page you referenced and realized it couldn't have been Mueller.
SandHog ago
He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
Zorrilla ago
Perhaps you know about this, as I've brought it up here before, and it's not a pedophile case, as it rather involves Satanism and the CIA, but Mueller was involved in the later stages of the cover-up of the Jeffrey MacDonald case. The MacDonald case (Gunderson was hired as an investigator by MacDonald's lawyers) was what initially led Gunderson into the realm of Satanic conspiracies.
SandHog ago
Hmm, I am not familiar with the MacDonald case or at least it isn't ringing a bell right at the moment. Nothing would surprise me about Mueller though. That guy has always been a snake.
Zorrilla ago
The MacDonald case is not widely known about, but in my opinion it is important to know about. If you're interested, look on YouTube for the Jeffrey MacDonald documentary titled "False Witness". Or, here's a link (not sure it will work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxCByoakms8 Ted Gunderson has said in talks that before the MacDonald case, he didn't know anything about Satanism or the Illuminati.
Trump was ridiculed by the media a few years ago for tweeting out a photo of Jeffrey MacDonald in relation to honoring Vietnam veterans. The journalists were trying to say that Trump was stupid for making this mistake, but I think it's more likely that he knew exactly who the photo was of.
SandHog ago
Thanks, that is very interesting. I'll have to check it out as I am definitely unfamiliar with this case.
Zorrilla ago
You're welcome - I think you will find it worth looking into. Here's an article by one of MacDonald's lawyers in which he describes his encounters with Mueller: https://www.wgbh.org/news/2017/10/17/silverglate-how-robert-mueller-tried-entrap-me
urbanmoving ago
Correct Mueller has played a role in the Bill Cohen Rod Hatham pedeo scandal, The Finders, Franklin, WTC 93, OKC 95, 9/11 and so many other false flags, psyops, and child sex/poorn/trafficking pedo operation scandals.
But its not just Mueller its the whole system even those designated to play half assed the "heroes
SandHog ago
Agreed.
think- ago
Well, there's a reason he and William Barr have been close friends for more than 30 years....
SandHog ago
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
think- ago
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
kestrel9 ago
I think it's wrong to assume Barr is a pedo.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
About Kirkland & Ellis
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
That is opinion stated as fact.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
@SandHog
think- ago
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
SandHog ago
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
@kestrel9
think- ago
That's fine. You know I always get carried away when I start discussing Trump and Barr.... :-P
SandHog ago
Haha, yes I do.
think- ago
:-)
think- ago
@SandHog, apologies, forgot to the @ in my comment above when I tagged you.
SandHog ago
No worries :)
think- ago
:-)
SandHog ago
Anything connected to CIA is 100% suspect. Did you compile any of this stuff somewhere? Incidentally, something I noticed when I went to verify the erroneous Mueller claim elsewhere in the thread was that there is only one person who has been Director of both the FBI and CIA: William H. Webster. I can't help but wonder if that cross-pollination is what led to the corruption in the FBI.
Coloradical2 ago
The FBI has always been corrupt. They have been framing and blackmailing innocent people since the days of J. Edgar Hoover.
think- ago
Yep, exactly.
think- ago
No, I didn't compile it. But I think I should do a post on v/ElitePedophilia, to have all info in one place. Thanks for inspiring me. :-)
Barr also worked for the CIA, in his younger years.
I don't know enough about FBI history to really form an opinion on that. But I'd imagine that any government agency dealing with secret information and criminal investigations will attract corrupt people and pedos, and then I also think it's unlikely that the pedos controlling the government would not have made sure that both FBI and CIA have corrupt leaders.
Remember, this goes back centuries. It certainly didn't start in the 1980s. If anything, the pedo and corruption problem was even worse back in the days, because noone talked about these crimes, and high level perps always got away with it.
MolochHunter ago
Mueller also party to the Franklin coverup
https://twitter.com/AussieComitatus/status/1187887957543272448