He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
In 2009, Barr was briefly of counsel to the firm Kirkland & Ellis. From 2010 until 2017, he advised corporations on government enforcement matters and regulatory litigation; he rejoined Kirkland and Ellis in 2017.[64]
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
An attorney who represented the victims of billionaire Jeffrey Epstein’s sexual assault said that in 2009, the only person that helped him was then citizen Donald Trump.
Question from reporter: Our current President has had relationships with Epstein in the past and there are those, Katy Johnson and maybe other victims who’ve accused Trump of being involved in things like this.
In my experience, Trump supporters will not listen to anything along those lines. Obviously we’re not in the court of law here right now, but are those claims, although that case was dropped, it was dropped before it went to court. In your opinion as a lawyer, in your experience is there anything you can say as to the validity of those claims and whether there will be anything more about that?
Edwards: Nothing at all. The only thing that I can say about President Trump is that he is the only person who, in 2009 when I served a lot of subpoenas on a lot of people, or at least gave notice to some pretty connected people, that I want to talk to them, is the only person who picked up the phone and said, let’s just talk. I’ll give you as much time as you want. I’ll tell you what you need to know, and was very helpful, in the information that he gave, and gave no indication whatsoever that he was involved in anything untoward whatsoever, but had good information. That checked out and that helped us and we didn’t have to take a deposition of him in 2009.
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
Then Barr made sure that Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
That is opinion stated as fact.
do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho.
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
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darkknight111 ago
Page 5 of PDF already has something important.
Look at the line “FM Director FBI.”
That means “From Director FBI”.
This actually tells us much about who was writing this pdf.
ROBERT MUELLER. The fucker who silenced the investigation into The Finders.
SandHog ago
He's built a [career on covering up for pedos]. Not mentioned in that article was his involvement in stonewalling Ted Gunderson's investigation into crooked FBI agents surrounding the Franklin scandal.
So that's Franklin, David Asimov, Epstein and now Finders that Mueller has played a major role in suppressing a case or recommending sweet plea deals. I suspect there are even more that we aren't yet aware of.
think- ago
Well, there's a reason he and William Barr have been close friends for more than 30 years....
SandHog ago
I saw the thing about Barr's dad and Epstein teaching at that school but that turned out to fake as far as I am aware. I didn't know he was pals with Mueller though. Still, if he is dirty why bring a case against Epstein after most of the public had forgotten all about him?
think- ago
There is contradicting information out there about who hired Epstein.
But Barr is dirty af. He tried to cover the Iran-Contra scandal up as best as he could for Bush.
Barr worked for Kirkland and Ellis, at a time when they represented Epstein (although he wasn't one of the attorneys directly involved), he refused to recuse himself from the new Epstein case (Trump should have fired him for that), and only recused himself from the old Florida Epstein case after the federal prosecutors had successfully lobbied for not reopening it, which means all the perps involved in the old trial will walk free, and justice will be denied to the vcictims.
Then Barr made sure theat Epstein was either taken out by the Mossad, or smuggled out of the prison, and covered that up as well.
Then he made sure Epstein's second island and his Zorro ranch were not raided.
He is asshole. Most likely a pedo - do you think that anyone could have worked as an AG under Bush, without being compromised - I don't.
As to your question - Epstein was removed from the CIA and Mossad sex trafficking operations because Julie Brown had investigated the case, and published the Miami Herald series about Epstein. So it was clear that the public would get interested in Epstein case again.
It was not the FBI or the DOJ who pushed this into the open, but an investigative journalist.
On a sidenote, Barr's father is still an interesting figure, because he worked for the CIA predecessor OSS, and published a novel about sex slaves.
kestrel9 ago
I think it's wrong to assume Barr is a pedo.
Call him an asshole, but saying he is likely a pedo because he worked at the firm representing Epstein is far reaching imho. Especially when his association to the company started after Epstein had already been convicted the previous year.
And while your animus against Trump isn't new and unlikely to ever change, it seems only fair to bring up this:
About Kirkland & Ellis
"Kirkland & Ellis LLP, sometimes referred to as Kirkland,[2] is an international law firm founded in 1909 in Chicago, Illinois, United States.
Kirkland is the largest law firm in the United States by revenue (US$3.76 billion in 2018), and the seventh largest in terms of number of attorneys (2,307 in 2019).[1]"
That is opinion stated as fact.
That sounds logical.
When CIA and Mossad are involved, how much leeway would the DOJ have had to interfere with their joint operations? How much could a citizen be expected to do?
@SandHog
think- ago
I didn't say that because of Kirkland and Ellis. I said it because I doubt that Bush would have chosen an AG who isn't a pedo, and thus could not have been controlled like the pedos can.
The other reason is that I have a very good spider sense when it comes to pedos (with an amazing accuracy). And Barr 100% triggers it. This is why I haven't called Barr a pedo on public threads so far - because you're right, I cannot prove it, it's just an assumption. (I wrote it this time, because I replied to SandHog.)
I can assure you that my hostility regarding Trump has only deepened after I found out that he actually admitted that he walked into the dressing room of the Miss Teen beauty pageants while the [15-19] year old girls were naked. It's on tape.
And you have seen the pic I posted during our last discussion about Trump, where he is on stage ogling the breasts of a 'Miss Teen' beauty queen. He even did it in public.
Plus I found out that he did business with John Casablancas, the model agency owner who has been accused of child trafficking. He married a 16 year old in, and later got divorced and married a 17 year old.
I can't even keep up with the number of Trump friends who are child rapists and traffickers.
And re the Edwards quote - of course Trump was very helpful when it came to Epstein. They fell apart over a real estate deal it seems, and then Trump did was he always does, and retaliated.
And btw. re the 'Trump threw Epstein out of Mar-a-Lago' story - there isn't any proof for that. Even when he was asked about Epstein during a presser, Trump didn't mention it. The only source is a friend of Trump, even Edwards said these were rumours.
If he had actually done it, he would certainly have mentioned it. He would go around and brag about it, like he usually does - but he never mentioned it at all.
As to the Katie Johnson allegations - I have always said I need to see more evidence before I am convinced he raped her. Until then I will presume he is innocent.
But taking into account all the stuff that is out there on tape and in pics, including his creepy behaviour and the creepy quotes when it comes to Ivanka, his behaviour is bordering on pedophilia. And I am being polite here.
SandHog ago
For the record, this thread is probably not the best place to have this discussion and I don't want to derail it from the Finders discussion so I'll not be participating beyond this point as it will just devolve into people fighting over Trump.
Besides, Fall is in full effect and I have a boatload of leaves to rake, bleh.
@kestrel9
think- ago
That's fine. You know I always get carried away when I start discussing Trump and Barr.... :-P
SandHog ago
Haha, yes I do.
think- ago
:-)