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The_Raven ago

I know I'll get down voted for this, but I really wish you'd have done more than just SKIM it before presenting it here. For example, how does Fiona's stories replicate those of ACTUAL victims? Most times, yes, victims stories are the same because the RITUALS do not change. This outline reads just like the Satanic Panic saying that the children's statements were coerced and they were trained to say what happened at the daycare.

It's really bad form to throw info out there expecting everyone else to dig into it when you haven't put any energy into examining or verifying it as truth or fiction yourself.

Vindicator ago

I'm not primarily a researcher on this forum, Raven (except if I'm busting shills, or trying to help people scour the archives for information they can't find). When I see things on Twitter or elsewhere I know folks here have an interest in and I see they haven't been posted, I occasionally submit them. Modding this subverse takes hours and hours of every day. Few are willing to help, and I've been doing it for over two years. I do not have the time to read a 115 page pdf. Also, I am not familiar enough with all of the various folks who claim to be SRA survivors to necessarily be able to spot inconsistencies. This is a crowdsourced investigation for a reason. Please dig in, and post your findings here. Perhaps the community will debunk this? If so, I will give it the flair.

The_Raven ago

Thanks for replying, but I'm seeing all sorts of red flags right away.

1) Fiona has already stated that the CIA was involved with her abuse

2) The Russia narrative is being brought up here. So called conspiracy theorists (CIA coined this term as you well know) are the ones who are seriously doubting that Trump has anything to do with Russia, so if the deep state can get pedo investigators to believe that Fiona is in bed with Russia, well that's a start in the right direction for them.

3) Many on Voat are very pro-Nazi and push the racial divide narrative, so it seems as though this story is not only being used to discredit an SRA victim, but to smear Russia and restore the image of the Nazi regime

4) See this article I found by searching helena and peter holowczak https://www.blindlight.org/index.php/all-psyops/item/306-veteran-s-today-starts-linking-nazis-to-pedophilia

EricKaliberhall ago

Yep! -2 pts already. Go ahead and down vote me,

You poor thing...

The_Raven ago

Did I ask for pity? No. Fuck off.

EricKaliberhall ago

The_Raven ago

Why are you and everyone here so obsessed about EsotericShade? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3013823/16556360/10#16556360

ESOTERICshade ago

Why are you and everyone here so obsessed about EsotericShade?

  1. I busted their ass on the Qanon thing. Nobody is going to GITMO and that was all a huge larp. Pants down, busted as fuck.

  2. New money moved into Voat. Maybe they are getting paid? I don't know, but shit is changing in a hurry.

I can only think of a couple of explanations.

The_Raven ago

Hey there. Whether Q is a LARP or not is really none of my concern as he/she/it hasn't advocated for anything dangerous, but Voat's "angel" investor is a huge concern as they'll provide more money to afford more gatekeepers. You were mentioned here and I find it inexcusable that he blames you for the reason why he won't link to certain PG subs that can assist investigators with finding more information that will lead to more truth. How does it feel to be a scapeGOAT? http://archive.is/4fA2L

ESOTERICshade ago

Right now they are trying do down vote me into the sub zero zone. They popped 400 points off of my CCP score in the last two weeks. It takes a lot of hours to do something like that. They go through all my comments and down vote EVERYTHING i say whether they agree with it or not. That just goes to show you that they have an agenda, or in the case of @crensch, no real life.


People will be shocked that I would say this >>> but I still think @vindicator might be a good person trying to do good things. He just needs a few years to develop but he is getting old like me. My take on @vindicator is >>>>-----

almost old enough to be a baby boomer. Probably in his 50's or 60's age wise. Got involved in the truth movement in the last five years. Has not figured all this shit out yet. Still believes in two party politics and thinks the Republicans are "the answer" to our problems. etc....


Only thing that puzzles me about @vindicator is that he defends Freemasons, Jesuits, Zionists, etc...He ridicules me for pointing out that these groups create the illness humanity is suffering from. I keep thinking he is too smart not to understand this. I have steadfastly been trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but i'm starting to wonder.....

TrustTheTruth ago

STARTING TO WONDER?

IT IS CLEAR AS DAY TO ANYONE WHO IS NOT COMPROMISED.

LOOK AT OUR SCORE.

IS ANYONE ELSE SHARING THE TRUTH WE SHARE?

WHY CAN'T THE TRUTH BE DISPUTED OR DISPROVED?

WE ARE NOT ADVANCED AI AS THE CORRUPT MODERATORS DESPERATELY ASSERT.

WHY WOULD THEY MAKE SUCH A CLAIM?

WHILE YOU MAY BE PROPPED UP AS AN EXAMPLE, WE ARE THE MOST TARGETED AND GANGSTALKED OF ALL.

YOU KNOW WHY.

WHO ELSE WAS TARGETED AND THREATENED?

WHAT HAPPENED?

WHAT IS Q'S PURPOSE?

DID YOU NOTICE WHAT HAPPENED IN THE PAST WEEK HERE?

WHY ARE JESUS CHRIST AND THE TRUTH THE ENEMY OF THIS SUB'S MODERATORS?

WHY DID THEY PARTNER WITH AN ADMITTED SATANIC BLOOD DRINKER?

WHAT IS THE REAL "ROOT" OF CORRUPTION?

WHAT IS THE TRUTH THEY CANNOT ALLOW THE WORLD TO KNOW?

@The_Raven - WHY DID NO ONE RESPOND WHEN WE POSTED ABOUT Y COMBINATOR'S INVESTMENT IN VOAT?

WHO ARE PETER THIEL, CHRIS KUTCHER, RON BURKLE AND GUY OSEARY?

WHAT IS THE OPPOSITE OF AN ANGEL?

WHAT IS VENTURE CAPITAL USED FOR?

HOW DO YOU CONTROL TECHNOLOGY?

WHAT IS SUSTAINABILITY AND HOW IS IT MEASURED?

WHAT IS "THE DEAL" TRUMP MADE AND WHY IS THE MEDIA ATTEMPTING TO COVER IT UP WITH MORE LIES?

WHY DID PAUL RYAN REALLY RESIGN?

WHO ARE THE BAUERS?

The_Raven ago

The Bauers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauer_Media_Group

Here they are trying to make a point about how modern they are: https://www.bauerlegal.co.uk/modern-slavery-statement-2017-06-12/

Must be difficult watching out for human trafficking when they manage a portfolio of more than 600 magazines, over 400 digital products and 50 radio and TV stations around the world. The portfolio includes print shops, postal, distribution and marketing services. Bauer Media Group has a workforce of approximately 11,000 employees in 17 countries.

TrustTheTruth ago

What is Mayer Amschel Rothschild's real name?

The_Raven ago

Yeah, they're down voting me into oblivion, too. I guess that's their only defense because they're losing. v/Pizzagate really doesn't need any mods. Just look at the v/QRV sub. They get shill attacks all the time, but the posts are down voted pretty quickly and it's easy to tell which posts are legit and which are not. I'm not sure which mod said it, but they said the reason why they try to figure out who's an alt of who is to catch shills. That's just pathetic, but I do feel bad for them. Imagine all day every day being on a snipe hunt? That can't be good for one's mental health because unlike finding evidence that the mods are corrupt, you never really get any concrete evidence to prove that one username is the same poster using a different username.

Whatever Vindicator and Crensch's reasons are for modding PG, their usefulness has run its course. They are doing nothing to further investigations and need to go. Think- is the only mod that I would say can stay. The rest need to go find new jobs. Down voting people to silence them is going against what Voat stands for, or used to stand for.

Do you know who the "angel" investor is?

ESOTERICshade ago

You were mentioned here and I find it inexcusable that he blames you for the reason why he won't link to certain PG subs that can assist investigators with finding more information that will lead to more truth.


Yep. They screwed the pooch pretty bad and i'm their whipping post. Its not my fault they fell face down in the mud for a t-shirt selling con man like Coleman Rogers (Qanon) Probably the reason "Qanon" doesn't post much anymore is because he is working on his next internet scam because the "Qanon hero" scam has about run its course.

Thanx for showing me this. I didn't see it.

http://archive.is/4fA2L


Only problem is that Esoteric's gang of groupies

There were a lot of us old timers that were livid as hell when @vindicator advocated for turning v/pizzagate into a Frankenstein hybrid that would have become something like v/pizzQanon. What a clusterfuck that would have been. It would have destroyed pizzagate forever. And then you have @crensch who is so uninformed that he literally called the Jesuits "just another group of Priests diddling children."


I don't have any "groupies" as @vindicator calls it, but there is a LOT of people that understand Qanon is a small group of t-shirt selling grifters and that Coleman Rogers is the last person known to be in control of it. That low life asshole, Coleman Rogers, quit making his "predictions" a long time ago because it became obvious that he can't predict the news cycle any better than the rest of us.


Now i'm getting death threats because the dumbass known as @crensch can't keep his nose out of pizzagate and stick to subjects on his level. crensch is the worst thing that ever happened to pizzagate. crensch should stick to subjects he is qualified for like talking about "niggers, jews, kikes, ovens" and whatever else his juvenile ass posts every day. If you want to get nausea check his comment history. He has to be in the top 10 most stupid posters on pizzagate. https://www.voat.co/user/crensch/comments


The_Raven ago

No member should ever have to suffer abuse from moderators. Down voting to silence is the worst abuse there is on a website that is supposed to stand for freedom of speech. I have noticed how venomous Crensch is about pushing the racial divide and it's laughable that he thinks the Jesuits are "just another group of Priests diddling children." I'm sure it makes them happy that someone in an authoritative position is helping to obscure their image by making it appear that they don't have nearly as much power as they actually have. Great job, Crensch! smh

It would be better if v/Pizzagate was an anon board or one had the option to be anon when posting. Those who are on the mods' shit list have valuable info and research (Vindicator admits to not even being a researcher), but are made to appear as shills once the corrupt mods and their brigadier gangs get to down voting because they are stuck in a kindergarten mentality. I've truly never seen anything so skewed and warped as it is here. They're so power hungry that it's blinding their judgement making them all impotent. v/Pizzagate would be better of without them.

EricKaliberhall ago

I wouldn't call it obsessed... ESOTERICshade is not that interesting, intelligent or funny... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2965667

Why the fuck do you care, faggot?

The_Raven ago

I care that the mods here are more concerned with finding alts of users than investigating Pizzagate. This sub used to be great, but it's now become a joke. It's as if all the mods are so paranoid these days. Just the fact that the ES sticky is still up is a red flag to any new users that they will most likely be scrutinized if they even remotely step out of line. That's not a very nice 'Welcome' mat.

SrayzieHazScabies ago

Just the fact that the ES sticky is still up is a red flag to any new users that they will most likely be scrutinized if they even remotely step out of line. That's not a very nice 'Welcome' mat.

It is exactly the reason they keep it up. Srayzie does same shit in his sub, that is how JDIF subs roll and doing this proves further they are on the same team.

They are fucked, people are getting executed (their friends and leaders) and at this point it is a hail Mary pass, because soon the funds will be gone and will have to find a real job.. Away from the home computer.

The_Raven ago

Right on. Can't wait!

think- ago

This sub used to be great, but it's now become a joke.

You've been a member for five months, the Esoteric sticky has been up for about four months. So when exactly was the time 'the sub was great' before the 'paranoid mods' stickied the Esoteric post?

Just wonderin', you know.

[][Crensch)

Vindicator ago

I think I know who this person is. Check out the title of this submission: Massive Red Pill: Steven D. Kelley: The Getty Musem, Pizzagate, Hillary is a Caver, etc. + code words, and much more.

Then look at the titles of these submissions.

That user is likely someone with Dissociative Identity Disorder. She self-doxxed multiple times and when I tried to help her, seemed to not remember our conversations and then went a bit nuts. She escalated into mod-attack mode instead of going after those trying to dox her. As I recall, she posted on Protect Voat about it and wouldn't give evidence and got the typical rough handling as a result and deleted her thread there, which would explain this.

During the doxing bruhaha with that user, she claimed not to care and to only be worried about Gothamgirl...which is interesting given this. Possibly both Raven and GG are alters of that same person. I suggest deescalation may be the best approach for this.

SrayzieHazScabies ago

I think I know who this person is

Oh great, now it is FACT based off your thinking.

argosciv ago

Possibly both Raven and GG are alters of that same person.

I suggest deescalation may be the best approach for this.

https://files.catbox.moe/6rh230.png

Vindicator ago

Added some interesting links the parent thread, including the archive showing the original content. Still recommend deescalating.

argosciv ago

Deescalating re: Raven or the whole submission?

I've just spent the last few hours going over Fiona's stor(y/ies) again and there's several things which still cause her to fail the sniff test.

Vindicator ago

Raven. Definitely not the whole submission. We need to get to the bottom of this.

argosciv ago

Check yo inbox. Urgent.

MolochHunter ago

Ok so the core / key evidence is that the Holowczaks did indeed live at #14 - as shown in the census record

something to keep in mind. Its not uncommon for post war migrant families to arrive and move as close to the same vicinity as each other. You could well have a family of Holowczaks at # 14 AND #30

Vindicator ago

Argosciv was saying there is no #30, unless it was demolished at some point. I think...if I understood him correctly.

Vindicator ago

There was no #30 ever

Actually, you haven't proven that.

I went to the site you used and it's quite apparent the parcel lines are only the modern ones. Let's look at what the alleged Fiona debunking document actually claims on page 5:

"TO BE CLEAR: 30 McAlister Ave, where the Holowczaks actually lived, was torn down awhile back, along with 2 other homes Lots 26, 28 and 30 were all sold, and TLC Childcare Centre was built...By purchasing all 3 lots that sat on the corner of McAlister Ave. and Woronora Road, the address became 252 Woronora Road."

When you go to the parcel viewer site you used and look at the pictures for that address, it clearly shows a single family home there on McAlister Ave from 1943 through 1994. It looks like the home is actually sitting on the #26 area of the large corner lot, with no other buildings at #28 and #30, but the aerial photo does confirm the existence of a single family house on that corner at the time of the Holowczak Naturalization record in 1958.

There are no aerial views between 1994 and 2001, but that year, it shows the 30 McAlister home is gone and the larger childcare center building now covers the whole new 252 lot, lending credence to the explanation just quoted.

You can also see that #25 McAlister across the street from where the 30 McAlister home was, also fits this logic, with lot 250 across from 252 having been similarly created from combining #27 and #29.

I suggest an Aussie who knows how to access property tax records for NSW addresses try to see when the demolition of the single family home at 30 McAlister happened, and who the owners were.

@think- @Sandhog @New4now

xRav5a0r ago

Makes sense, thank you!

argosciv ago

Stellar work there, Vin. Thank you for helping me to understand whether #30 existed or not.

Vindicator ago

Thanks, Argo.

new4now ago

nice find, needs collaboration

maybe find something on day care date

definetly worth looking into

I feel the need to address what is happening

I been here bout 2 yrs and have seen this group split in two a number of times

theres always disagreements, but this one came hard and fast

Is there any thought that someone may be smearing both, blaming each other to cause this upheavel?

it has all the elements to get everyone involved

wasnt hard to do if that is whats happening

Vindicator ago

Is there any thought that someone may be smearing both, blaming each other to cause this upheavel?

it has all the elements to get everyone involved

wasnt hard to do if that is whats happening

Yep. I noticed the same thing. The last time this happened was Jem777 being reported dead. A lot of the same people were pushing the smears then, too.

new4now ago

also with an old mod at Pizzagate

also bothered with the amount of info coming out

I dont twitter, but who are these people?

sorry, but from a Pysch view, what has happened in such little time is amazing

EMOTIONAL..not good

Vindicator ago

That's why I keep trying to refocus on what can be factually or logically determined. Seems to be a bit like pushing on a string around here lately, though. :-)

new4now ago

keep going

I dont like being confused :)

I believed Fiona though, Wasnt sure on Sawyer

I would like the truth also

shewhomustbeobeyed ago

Thank you, again.

xRav5a0r ago

:)

argosciv ago

Argosciv was saying there is no #30, unless it was demolished at some point. I think...if I understood him correctly.

You did.

Checked google maps.

argosciv ago

As I mentioned elsewhere, there is no #30, at least, not anymore; was there ever? If not, why was a Peter H. listed as living there? If so, are we looking at a lie, an error, an extended family or a house move? Also if there was a #30, what happened to it? What was it replaced by?

The_Raven ago

ES was being attacked for months before that sticky appeared.

MolochHunter ago

deservedly so

if you dont understand that, dont act surprised when you get the same treatment

ESOTERICshade ago

deservedly so

if you dont understand that, dont act surprised when you get the same treatment

You are welcome to believe in the Qanon fantasy. Smoke that Hopium if it makes you feel good. BUT guess what?

It did not belong in v/pizzagate and pollute the hell out of pizzagate because pizzagate ain't no joke. Qanon is a fucking joke, but pizzagate is not a joke. Those two things should not be mixed together.

If you think otherwise you don't understand.

SrayzieHazScabies ago

deservedly so

Oh you mean the way Jem777 deserved it?

MolochHunter ago

If she is dead (no proof cited yet) she probably didn't deserve it. But who knows what sort of fuckery is going on with her. She CLAIMED to be a pizzagate researcher but then she was dating a guy who said James Alefantis was a 'good guy'

Who does that?

How about you, do you think Alefantis is a good guy?

Was Jem a fool to date the enemy, or was she in on it and part of something murky?

Hell, for all I know, you could be Jem, using a staged death to discredit the mod team here

I have as much proof of that as I do of her death

SrayzieHazRabiez ago

Srayzie that is the first example of doublethink I have encountered since college.

She CLAIMED to be a pizzagate researcher

Well she was texting you in real time while in Comet Ping Pong showing pics of place no one has seen before and a video too. Are you saying those pics and video is false and you presented as factual evidence? Not looking good for you, either way, makes you look like a liar.

but then she was dating a guy

Srayzie, you said you thought she was dating him in your Jem777 Limited Hangout Edition article, do you have actual proof of this? How can you say this if Jem777 isn't even real to begin with?

Your article basically makes you look like a liar with this double-think going on doubting she even died and making someone’s death look like a conspiracy theory even though she was presenting photo evidence in real time that no pictures of the place was ever seen before on the internet, all the while you showing the pics and video in your article that she was there. One thing you leave out is you talked to this non-existent person whom was probably never alive to begin with according to your doublethink fallacy of course, but lets not shine light about the possibly you were the one in cahoots with the pizzaman or others that day she was there relaying what she was telling you.

Hell, for all I know, you could be Jem, using a staged death to discredit the mod team here

Do you think your “mod team” is soooo important someone would fake their death just to discredit them? Paranoid much?

I have as much proof of that as I do of her death

When you live in UK, do you think they will show local news articles from Virginia there? Especially about PG?!?! What are you smoking?

Not only that, UK censors your news coming from US, and I know this from using VPN servers in UK when checking out a link done by a Patriot in USA and shows me a censored warning stating that I cant view it.

Once again, you are not very bright and using doublethink as a tool thinking it will help you, but instead, it outted your location (along with your ahem, “mod team”) and your lies that either this person existed or this person never existed which you argue both ways with it, and use evidence too!

Maybe you and Mark should regroup and think this shit out better and tell the rest of the team too.

@TrustTheTruth @ESOTERICSHADE @Lansing-Michigan

TrustTheTruth ago

THESE ARE ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE QUESTIONS AND LIES THAT UNRAVEL THEIR REAL AGENDA.

THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE.

WHO EXPOSED SRAYZIE WHEN SHE RAN HER HIT PIECE ON JENNY FOLLOWING HER DEATH?

WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THE MODERATORS?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS NOT @JEM777?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY DID NOT DIE?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY FAKED HER INJURIES FROM ATTACKS?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS NOT A WHISTLEBLOWER AND NEVER HELPED ANY VICTIMS OF ABUSE?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS A CIA DISINFORMATION AGENT?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY FAKED HER OWN DEATH?

WHY DID THEY ATTACK LONG-STANDING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING @CARMENCITA, @PISCINA AND @FOGDRYER?

WHY DO MODERATORS GANGSTALK, SLANDER, SLIDE, LIE, DOWNVOTE AND THREATEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY?

HOW DO WE KNOW SO MUCH THAT NO ONE ELSE HERE KNOWS?

WHY DO THE MODERATORS ACCUSE US OF BEING ADVANCED AI?

WHY HAVE MODERATORS ISSUED MORE DEATH THREATS AGAINST US?

WHO ELSE HERE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS IN THE PAST AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN JENNY RETURNED TO VOAT?

WHAT WAS THE 12 PART SERIES ABOUT, AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER SERIES MADE BY A SATANIC BLOOD DRINKING PARTNER OF THE MODERATORS?

WHY WAS JENNY REALLY BANNED FROM THE FORUM?

WHO DID JENNY REALLY TRUST AND WHY WAS SHE SO ADAMANT ABOUT GOING TO WISCONSIN?

WHO EXPOSED GEORGE IN FRONT OF JENNY AND WHAT HAPPENED?

WHY WAS GEORGE'S BROTHER DAVE SO UPSET?

WHY DID GEORGE SLANDER JESUS CHRIST AND SAY HE NEVER WANTED HIS HELP?

WHAT MODERATOR BETRAYED JENNY AND WHY?

WHAT IS THE REAL AGENDA OF THE MODERATORS TO CONTROL THE INVESTIGATION AND DEFINITION OF PIZZAGATE?

WHAT IS PIZZAGATE WITHOUT GLOBAL CRIMINAL CORRUPTION?

WHO ARE THE PILGRIMS SOCIETY AND WHAT DO THEY DO?

WHAT IS THE SPHINX HEAD?

WHO ARE THE MAJESTIC 12?

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DEMANDS FOR PROOF THAT JENNY DIED, YET NO DEMANDS FOR PROOF THAT Q IS LEGITIMATE AFTER YEARS OF LYING TO EVERYONE WITH FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT MILITARY TRIBUNALS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN?

WHAT ROLE IS Q PLAYING?

WHAT DID JESUS WARN THE WORLD ABOUT?

WHAT DID JESUS PROMISE?

WHAT DOES 5G+ AI ENABLE?

WHAT ROLE DO MODERATORS AND PLATFORMS PERFORM LEADING UP TO 5G+ AI?

WHAT DID JENNY BELIEVE, AND WHAT WAS "THE DEAL" MADE BY TRUMP FOR 5G+ AI?

WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK?

ONLY THE TRUTH EXPOSES THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, THE GREAT DECEPTION OF SUSTAINABILITY (SATAN'S ABILITY), AND THE MODEL FOR THE REAL AGENDA OF ETERNAL ENSLAVEMENT WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST ENFORCED BY 5G+ AI AND COMMUNITY POLICING?

WHERE IS HILLARY'S MODEL FOR COMMUNITY POLICING?

WHAT IS THE WORLD'S MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE AND WHERE IS IT?

Jesus is The Lamb. The Truth is The Lion.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH THEY CANNOT ALLOW THE WORLD TO KNOW?

MolochHunter ago

did you send this response to the wrong person? You called me Srayzie

Im Moloch Hunter. You can tell that by the name at the top of my comment

SrayzieHazRabiez ago

Too scared to ping yourself Rayann?

I know why and find this very enjoyable!

MolochHunter ago

You make yourself look like such a loser

I know what Srayzies name is and it's not 'Rayann'

Who the fuck is called Ryann anyway I've never even heard anyone with that name

Anyway. Don't you have to go launder all the multitude of socks you sprayed into fantasising about Srayzie?

CrenschStench ago

What a coincidence you came on so quick, Mark must have your acct details like password too!

@Vindic8tor DIDNT EVEN PING YOU!!

You slipped hard, but dont worry, I wont ping too many people to see this!

@Kingzos @ESOTERICSHADE @CARMENCITA @PISCINA @Lansing-Michigan

Already got a report on Rayann ‎(رايانن) and (not Ryann idiot) and 1 spoiler alert for you, it is a popular Muslim name and a boys’ name too!

Tell Mark I said hi!

ESOTERICshade ago

Who the fuck is Mark and what are you talking about?

SrayzieHazScabies ago

Too scared to respond Rayann or is MH too scared to ping you?

Either way you are a scurred lil punk and this is very enjoyable!

@TrustTheTruth @ESOTERICSHADE @Lansing-Michigan

srayzie ago

I was away for a while. I"m not carrying on a conversation like this with some coward who's afraid to show their real username.

MolochHunter ago

you have mental issues

im just chillin here flossing my teeth

CrenschStench ago

you have mental issues

That is the best comeback you got? You are right, keep flossing the cum between your teeth. Hahahaha!

CrenschStench ago

Poor Mark isn't coming back, so sad..

Why not pinging whole crew?

You are flossing why? Cock cum doesnt lodge between teeth does it?

Crensch ago

Oh, here is the answer. Somebody who considers them self a researcher but can't look through a single submission and find the truth even a fifth grader could find.

Crensch ago

To append: the wording used makes ES sound like the victim, does it not?

EricKaliberhall ago

I care that the mods here are more concerned with finding alts of users than investigating Pizzagate.

I can tell that you are new here! We do both here, 'shill-hunting' and serious investigations. We are a well-oiled machine, so no need to worry. My advice would be to lurk more... Maybe you'll learn something!

SrayzieHazScabies ago

serious investigations

RoFL!!

What you do here is intimidate future researchers, and make the current ones stop even if it means killing them...

The_Raven ago

I'm not new here, at all. I've been here from the beginning. I remember Millennial Falcon and had many of my threads removed by him because I was one of the first to bring up adrenochrome. That is when I started becoming weary of mods, especially since nobody would listen to myself and others when we'd show them that he was a danger to the sub. Yet, nobody would listen until months went by. Yet, here we are with a bunch of mods that are preoccupied with who's an alt of who and disrespecting members by calling them faggots and whores and accusing them of being alts of members without so much as a shred of proof. This place is acidic it's actually starting to disintegrate my swamp boots.

think- ago

I'm not new here, at all. I've been here from the beginning.

So what was the alt you used back then, so that we can verify that what you say is true?

And why did you use another alt now?

The_Raven ago

I was doxxed and the offender is still here, active, and respected. Voat does not honor it's rule of No Doxxing with an instant ban. As far as I saw, he was never punished at all. I have all of the evidence safe on a jump drive where he even admits to doxxing me. I haven't decided what to do with it, but I know what country he's in and who his friends are.

think- ago

@The_Raven, if someone doxxed you, and you have evidence for that, then he will be banned. Did you ever alert @Crensch or @Vindicator that you've been doxxed?

The_Raven ago

No, I didn't alert them because one of them is his friend, which means the other one most likely is, too. What's the difference anyway? The offender will just log on with a new account. I'm keeping the info safe because if anything happens to me, my property, my family, or my friends, I'm taking it to the police. This is not an issue that is restricted to just this site. Once someone is doxxed, it's now gone from Voat into the real world.

MolochHunter ago

thing about taking it to the police is they will ask if you took reasonable steps to deal with the issue at the time

and if you cant even say you alerted moderators, its going to compromise your case

you're the Christine Blasey Ford of Voat

The_Raven ago

I wasn't going to reply to your obvious scare tactic, but everyone should know that you don't treat doxxing as though it's some sort of office-level harassment.

I have a friend in the police department who I spoke to when this happened. This person has all of the details and said to just hang on to the evidence because if something does happen, that's when it will be important. As you and I both know, the cops won't do anything until damage has been done.

MolochHunter ago

you're like a bitch who claims she's just been raped but then strangely refuses to go get the medical examination while the cum is still in her vag

you're like a black faggot actor who claims he was MAGA-mugged but wont hand his mobile phone over to the police

you're like Nathan Phillips claiming the Covington boys surrounded him when the tape shows him walking up and pushing through to the middle of their throng

The_Raven ago

If comparing me to a "bitch," a "black faggot," and a liar makes you feel big and strong, so be it, but you doth protest too much, methinks.

MolochHunter ago

you maligned the character of the Mods, but gave them no channel by which to clear their names

fuck you

MolochHunter ago

this is why you are 100% full of shit

all you would have to do is post a screenshot of the offending 'dox' - as others have when its happened to them.

then watch whether the current Mods respond in condemnation or in support of the doxxer

and thus be either vindicated in their integrity or tarred by the same brush

you have absolutely nothing to lose by that. Nothing. And absolutely everything to gain in your own vindication - IF YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE

conversely, by being a fucking pussy and withholding the allegedly incriminating evidence, you keep an unjust cloud over the integrity of the entire Mod team with your insinuation of their collusion

ergo, your lack of transparency is in Bad Faith , Miss Blasey-Ford

so get real, stump up with the screenshot, or go suck satans pecker

The_Raven ago

See, the thing is is that I don't care if I'm believed by you or anyone else here. I know it's true. My irl friend knows it's true. Nothing else matters. So you can go scream and kick and flail your arms around as much as you want and suggest I go do all sorts of heinous sexual things, what you say and think means nothing to me.

MolochHunter ago

see, you CLAIM you are a victim

but you dont act with the INTEGRITY a 'victim' should

so you deserve whatever lack of justice comes your way

if you want a more 'just' outcome - act with more integrity

we're not going anywhere. We're just here waiting for your evidence which you still have not provided any good reason not to table

The_Raven ago

Why would you wait around for something that I already said I wasn't going to present? That's kind of crazy doncha think? Why are you bullying me anyway? There's no plus side to me posting the evidence here. Especially with your veiled threats of "you deserve whatever lack of justice comes your way." Yeah, you sound just like someone I'd trust with sensitive info.

MolochHunter ago

im in your grill because you are maligning the reputation of the Mods

whats crazy is you keeping yourself in harms way when you could easily get yourself out of it by putting up or shutting up, fagface

Vindicator ago

I was not alerted to any doxing of you, Raven. Why are you making these baseless claims?

think- ago

Err....@The_Raven? You complain that nothing was done when you got doxxed, but then it turns out you never told anyone, especially not the mods or the O?

That's you own decision, of course, but then please don't complain about the mods. Really.

@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @srayzie @Shizy

The_Raven ago

I'm going to PM you. What I'm going to say needs to be said privately.

Crensch ago

" I was doxxed! They did nothing about it! I didn't tell anyone, but they should have read my mind! The mods are bad people because they didn't read my mind! Maybe they should stop going after shills and start reading my mind more!"

Unverified complaints. Sounds familiar. Get fucked, @The_Raven.

The_Raven ago

Hi @Crensch. What you said above, I'd expect nothing less from you. You are a crude, worthless POS.

Crensch ago

And yet I'm still worth far, far more than you ever will be to decent, civilized human beings.

How does it feel to be a drain on everyone around you? Making accusations with no proof like all these sjws and feminists and Jews. Expecting the white man to come and save you while simultaneously attacking the white man for not reading your mind.

The_Raven ago

I can tell you're scared. It's OK. That's a normal reaction to what I've presented.

Crensch ago

It says a lot that you say that when you haven't actually presented anything.

If I make unsupported claims about you, does that mean I win?

The_Raven ago

This isn't about winning or losing. It's about the difference between right and wrong.

Crensch ago

Would it be right of me to make unsupported claims about you and expect others to believe me?

The_Raven ago

All I said was that you are the offender's friend. That's it.

Crensch ago

And yet your words suggest that I am somehow at fault or compromised because of this.

I didn't read your mind and help you because your friend is a raging pedophile and I thought you might be in on it, too.

@vindicator @think- @srayzie @EricKaliberhall

The_Raven ago

Never mind. I'm done here. Everyone can easily see that the more I post, the more opportunity to down vote me until I can't post threads or comment anymore.

Crensch ago

Maybe you shouldn't accuse people of things without having evidence. It tends to not go over well.

The_Raven ago

I have evidence. Stop being so offended because I'm not making it public. What evidence do you have that I should trust you with any evidence anyway?

Crensch ago

"I have evidence, I just won't show you."

And I have evidence that you are a pedophile but I won't show you or anyone else.

Do you see how that works?

The_Raven ago

Why are you pinging everyone?

Crensch ago

Because people that make accusations and do not back them up tend to be problem users and generally links to other problem users.

The people eye pain need to be aware of new usernames showing up acting suspicious and making accusations against the mods without any evidence whatsoever.

think- ago

@MolochHuconnter @kevdude: Please see parent, and convo above. Thanks.

think- ago

@MolochHunter Err....I'm sorry, I mispelled your name above. blush

Please see grandparent, thanks!

EricKaliberhall ago

I'm not new here, at all. I've been here from the beginning. I remember Millennial Falcon and had many of my threads removed by him because I was one of the first to bring up adrenochrome.

What was your username? I've had several interesting and wild debates on adrenochrome here at v/pizzagate...

The_Raven ago

That's not important. It's apparent you already don't want to have an intelligent discussion with me since you never even addressed my reply to the post you originally responded to on this thread except to give it a down vote with no explanation, then simply went took a disrespectful tone going so far as to tell me I need to lurk moar, which translates to shut up and go away. I'm not going to be baited into giving you my first identity for obvious reasons.

TrustTheTruth ago

WHY ARE THE MODERATORS AND THEIR SOLDIERS SO WORRIED ABOUT YOUR CLAIM?

WHY ARE THE MODERATORS AND THEIR SOLDIERS SO DESPERATE FOR YOU TO REVEAL YOUR IDENTITY AND EVIDENCE?

WHY ARE THE MODERATORS AND THEIR SOLDIERS TRYING VARIOUS TACTICS AGAINST YOU WHEN ANOTHER FAILS?

WHAT REALLY HAPPENED TO JENNY MOORE AND OTHERS WHO KNEW THE TRUTH?

WHY ARE MODERATORS AND THEIR SOLDIERS ISSUING MORE THREATS INCLUDING DEATH THREATS AGAINST US AND THOSE WHO KNOW THE TRUTH?

VOAT IS A VERY DANGEROUS PLACE.

THE TRUTH IS NOT WELCOME HERE.

THE TRUTH CANNOT BE DISPUTED, DISPROVED, INTIMIDATED OR MURDERED.

WE HAVE ALREADY DIED, AND WE KNOW WHAT THE ENTIRE ARMY OF SATAN COMBINED WILL NEVER KNOW.

Jesus is The Lamb. The Truth is The Lion.

EricKaliberhall ago

That's not important.

That's what a weak nobody would say...

The_Raven ago

Whatever you think. Everything is perception anyway.

EricKaliberhall ago

A weak nobody who's always the victim... Good luck with that.