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The_Raven ago

I know I'll get down voted for this, but I really wish you'd have done more than just SKIM it before presenting it here. For example, how does Fiona's stories replicate those of ACTUAL victims? Most times, yes, victims stories are the same because the RITUALS do not change. This outline reads just like the Satanic Panic saying that the children's statements were coerced and they were trained to say what happened at the daycare.

It's really bad form to throw info out there expecting everyone else to dig into it when you haven't put any energy into examining or verifying it as truth or fiction yourself.

Vindicator ago

I'm not primarily a researcher on this forum, Raven (except if I'm busting shills, or trying to help people scour the archives for information they can't find). When I see things on Twitter or elsewhere I know folks here have an interest in and I see they haven't been posted, I occasionally submit them. Modding this subverse takes hours and hours of every day. Few are willing to help, and I've been doing it for over two years. I do not have the time to read a 115 page pdf. Also, I am not familiar enough with all of the various folks who claim to be SRA survivors to necessarily be able to spot inconsistencies. This is a crowdsourced investigation for a reason. Please dig in, and post your findings here. Perhaps the community will debunk this? If so, I will give it the flair.

The_Raven ago

Thanks for replying, but I'm seeing all sorts of red flags right away.

1) Fiona has already stated that the CIA was involved with her abuse

2) The Russia narrative is being brought up here. So called conspiracy theorists (CIA coined this term as you well know) are the ones who are seriously doubting that Trump has anything to do with Russia, so if the deep state can get pedo investigators to believe that Fiona is in bed with Russia, well that's a start in the right direction for them.

3) Many on Voat are very pro-Nazi and push the racial divide narrative, so it seems as though this story is not only being used to discredit an SRA victim, but to smear Russia and restore the image of the Nazi regime

4) See this article I found by searching helena and peter holowczak https://www.blindlight.org/index.php/all-psyops/item/306-veteran-s-today-starts-linking-nazis-to-pedophilia

EricKaliberhall ago

Yep! -2 pts already. Go ahead and down vote me,

You poor thing...

The_Raven ago

Did I ask for pity? No. Fuck off.

EricKaliberhall ago

The_Raven ago

Why are you and everyone here so obsessed about EsotericShade? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3013823/16556360/10#16556360

EricKaliberhall ago

I wouldn't call it obsessed... ESOTERICshade is not that interesting, intelligent or funny... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2965667

Why the fuck do you care, faggot?

The_Raven ago

I care that the mods here are more concerned with finding alts of users than investigating Pizzagate. This sub used to be great, but it's now become a joke. It's as if all the mods are so paranoid these days. Just the fact that the ES sticky is still up is a red flag to any new users that they will most likely be scrutinized if they even remotely step out of line. That's not a very nice 'Welcome' mat.

EricKaliberhall ago

I care that the mods here are more concerned with finding alts of users than investigating Pizzagate.

I can tell that you are new here! We do both here, 'shill-hunting' and serious investigations. We are a well-oiled machine, so no need to worry. My advice would be to lurk more... Maybe you'll learn something!

The_Raven ago

I'm not new here, at all. I've been here from the beginning. I remember Millennial Falcon and had many of my threads removed by him because I was one of the first to bring up adrenochrome. That is when I started becoming weary of mods, especially since nobody would listen to myself and others when we'd show them that he was a danger to the sub. Yet, nobody would listen until months went by. Yet, here we are with a bunch of mods that are preoccupied with who's an alt of who and disrespecting members by calling them faggots and whores and accusing them of being alts of members without so much as a shred of proof. This place is acidic it's actually starting to disintegrate my swamp boots.

EricKaliberhall ago

I'm not new here, at all. I've been here from the beginning. I remember Millennial Falcon and had many of my threads removed by him because I was one of the first to bring up adrenochrome.

What was your username? I've had several interesting and wild debates on adrenochrome here at v/pizzagate...

The_Raven ago

That's not important. It's apparent you already don't want to have an intelligent discussion with me since you never even addressed my reply to the post you originally responded to on this thread except to give it a down vote with no explanation, then simply went took a disrespectful tone going so far as to tell me I need to lurk moar, which translates to shut up and go away. I'm not going to be baited into giving you my first identity for obvious reasons.

EricKaliberhall ago

That's not important.

That's what a weak nobody would say...

The_Raven ago

Whatever you think. Everything is perception anyway.

EricKaliberhall ago

A weak nobody who's always the victim... Good luck with that.