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The_Raven ago

I know I'll get down voted for this, but I really wish you'd have done more than just SKIM it before presenting it here. For example, how does Fiona's stories replicate those of ACTUAL victims? Most times, yes, victims stories are the same because the RITUALS do not change. This outline reads just like the Satanic Panic saying that the children's statements were coerced and they were trained to say what happened at the daycare.

It's really bad form to throw info out there expecting everyone else to dig into it when you haven't put any energy into examining or verifying it as truth or fiction yourself.

Vindicator ago

I'm not primarily a researcher on this forum, Raven (except if I'm busting shills, or trying to help people scour the archives for information they can't find). When I see things on Twitter or elsewhere I know folks here have an interest in and I see they haven't been posted, I occasionally submit them. Modding this subverse takes hours and hours of every day. Few are willing to help, and I've been doing it for over two years. I do not have the time to read a 115 page pdf. Also, I am not familiar enough with all of the various folks who claim to be SRA survivors to necessarily be able to spot inconsistencies. This is a crowdsourced investigation for a reason. Please dig in, and post your findings here. Perhaps the community will debunk this? If so, I will give it the flair.

The_Raven ago

Thanks for replying, but I'm seeing all sorts of red flags right away.

1) Fiona has already stated that the CIA was involved with her abuse

2) The Russia narrative is being brought up here. So called conspiracy theorists (CIA coined this term as you well know) are the ones who are seriously doubting that Trump has anything to do with Russia, so if the deep state can get pedo investigators to believe that Fiona is in bed with Russia, well that's a start in the right direction for them.

3) Many on Voat are very pro-Nazi and push the racial divide narrative, so it seems as though this story is not only being used to discredit an SRA victim, but to smear Russia and restore the image of the Nazi regime

4) See this article I found by searching helena and peter holowczak https://www.blindlight.org/index.php/all-psyops/item/306-veteran-s-today-starts-linking-nazis-to-pedophilia

EricKaliberhall ago

Yep! -2 pts already. Go ahead and down vote me,

You poor thing...

The_Raven ago

Did I ask for pity? No. Fuck off.

EricKaliberhall ago

The_Raven ago

Why are you and everyone here so obsessed about EsotericShade? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/3013823/16556360/10#16556360

EricKaliberhall ago

I wouldn't call it obsessed... ESOTERICshade is not that interesting, intelligent or funny... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2965667

Why the fuck do you care, faggot?

The_Raven ago

I care that the mods here are more concerned with finding alts of users than investigating Pizzagate. This sub used to be great, but it's now become a joke. It's as if all the mods are so paranoid these days. Just the fact that the ES sticky is still up is a red flag to any new users that they will most likely be scrutinized if they even remotely step out of line. That's not a very nice 'Welcome' mat.

think- ago

This sub used to be great, but it's now become a joke.

You've been a member for five months, the Esoteric sticky has been up for about four months. So when exactly was the time 'the sub was great' before the 'paranoid mods' stickied the Esoteric post?

Just wonderin', you know.

[][Crensch)

The_Raven ago

ES was being attacked for months before that sticky appeared.

MolochHunter ago

deservedly so

if you dont understand that, dont act surprised when you get the same treatment

ESOTERICshade ago

deservedly so

if you dont understand that, dont act surprised when you get the same treatment

You are welcome to believe in the Qanon fantasy. Smoke that Hopium if it makes you feel good. BUT guess what?

It did not belong in v/pizzagate and pollute the hell out of pizzagate because pizzagate ain't no joke. Qanon is a fucking joke, but pizzagate is not a joke. Those two things should not be mixed together.

If you think otherwise you don't understand.

SrayzieHazScabies ago

deservedly so

Oh you mean the way Jem777 deserved it?

MolochHunter ago

If she is dead (no proof cited yet) she probably didn't deserve it. But who knows what sort of fuckery is going on with her. She CLAIMED to be a pizzagate researcher but then she was dating a guy who said James Alefantis was a 'good guy'

Who does that?

How about you, do you think Alefantis is a good guy?

Was Jem a fool to date the enemy, or was she in on it and part of something murky?

Hell, for all I know, you could be Jem, using a staged death to discredit the mod team here

I have as much proof of that as I do of her death

SrayzieHazRabiez ago

Srayzie that is the first example of doublethink I have encountered since college.

She CLAIMED to be a pizzagate researcher

Well she was texting you in real time while in Comet Ping Pong showing pics of place no one has seen before and a video too. Are you saying those pics and video is false and you presented as factual evidence? Not looking good for you, either way, makes you look like a liar.

but then she was dating a guy

Srayzie, you said you thought she was dating him in your Jem777 Limited Hangout Edition article, do you have actual proof of this? How can you say this if Jem777 isn't even real to begin with?

Your article basically makes you look like a liar with this double-think going on doubting she even died and making someone’s death look like a conspiracy theory even though she was presenting photo evidence in real time that no pictures of the place was ever seen before on the internet, all the while you showing the pics and video in your article that she was there. One thing you leave out is you talked to this non-existent person whom was probably never alive to begin with according to your doublethink fallacy of course, but lets not shine light about the possibly you were the one in cahoots with the pizzaman or others that day she was there relaying what she was telling you.

Hell, for all I know, you could be Jem, using a staged death to discredit the mod team here

Do you think your “mod team” is soooo important someone would fake their death just to discredit them? Paranoid much?

I have as much proof of that as I do of her death

When you live in UK, do you think they will show local news articles from Virginia there? Especially about PG?!?! What are you smoking?

Not only that, UK censors your news coming from US, and I know this from using VPN servers in UK when checking out a link done by a Patriot in USA and shows me a censored warning stating that I cant view it.

Once again, you are not very bright and using doublethink as a tool thinking it will help you, but instead, it outted your location (along with your ahem, “mod team”) and your lies that either this person existed or this person never existed which you argue both ways with it, and use evidence too!

Maybe you and Mark should regroup and think this shit out better and tell the rest of the team too.

@TrustTheTruth @ESOTERICSHADE @Lansing-Michigan

TrustTheTruth ago

THESE ARE ONLY THE BEGINNING OF THE QUESTIONS AND LIES THAT UNRAVEL THEIR REAL AGENDA.

THIS IS MUCH BIGGER THAN ANYONE CAN IMAGINE.

WHO EXPOSED SRAYZIE WHEN SHE RAN HER HIT PIECE ON JENNY FOLLOWING HER DEATH?

WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE FROM THE MODERATORS?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS NOT @JEM777?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY DID NOT DIE?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY FAKED HER INJURIES FROM ATTACKS?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS NOT A WHISTLEBLOWER AND NEVER HELPED ANY VICTIMS OF ABUSE?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY WAS A CIA DISINFORMATION AGENT?

WHY DID SOME OF THEM CLAIM THAT JENNY FAKED HER OWN DEATH?

WHY DID THEY ATTACK LONG-STANDING MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY INCLUDING @CARMENCITA, @PISCINA AND @FOGDRYER?

WHY DO MODERATORS GANGSTALK, SLANDER, SLIDE, LIE, DOWNVOTE AND THREATEN MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY?

HOW DO WE KNOW SO MUCH THAT NO ONE ELSE HERE KNOWS?

WHY DO THE MODERATORS ACCUSE US OF BEING ADVANCED AI?

WHY HAVE MODERATORS ISSUED MORE DEATH THREATS AGAINST US?

WHO ELSE HERE RECEIVED DEATH THREATS IN THE PAST AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN JENNY RETURNED TO VOAT?

WHAT WAS THE 12 PART SERIES ABOUT, AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER SERIES MADE BY A SATANIC BLOOD DRINKING PARTNER OF THE MODERATORS?

WHY WAS JENNY REALLY BANNED FROM THE FORUM?

WHO DID JENNY REALLY TRUST AND WHY WAS SHE SO ADAMANT ABOUT GOING TO WISCONSIN?

WHO EXPOSED GEORGE IN FRONT OF JENNY AND WHAT HAPPENED?

WHY WAS GEORGE'S BROTHER DAVE SO UPSET?

WHY DID GEORGE SLANDER JESUS CHRIST AND SAY HE NEVER WANTED HIS HELP?

WHAT MODERATOR BETRAYED JENNY AND WHY?

WHAT IS THE REAL AGENDA OF THE MODERATORS TO CONTROL THE INVESTIGATION AND DEFINITION OF PIZZAGATE?

WHAT IS PIZZAGATE WITHOUT GLOBAL CRIMINAL CORRUPTION?

WHO ARE THE PILGRIMS SOCIETY AND WHAT DO THEY DO?

WHAT IS THE SPHINX HEAD?

WHO ARE THE MAJESTIC 12?

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY DEMANDS FOR PROOF THAT JENNY DIED, YET NO DEMANDS FOR PROOF THAT Q IS LEGITIMATE AFTER YEARS OF LYING TO EVERYONE WITH FALSE CLAIMS ABOUT MILITARY TRIBUNALS THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN?

WHAT ROLE IS Q PLAYING?

WHAT DID JESUS WARN THE WORLD ABOUT?

WHAT DID JESUS PROMISE?

WHAT DOES 5G+ AI ENABLE?

WHAT ROLE DO MODERATORS AND PLATFORMS PERFORM LEADING UP TO 5G+ AI?

WHAT DID JENNY BELIEVE, AND WHAT WAS "THE DEAL" MADE BY TRUMP FOR 5G+ AI?

WHAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK?

ONLY THE TRUTH EXPOSES THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL, THE GREAT DECEPTION OF SUSTAINABILITY (SATAN'S ABILITY), AND THE MODEL FOR THE REAL AGENDA OF ETERNAL ENSLAVEMENT WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST ENFORCED BY 5G+ AI AND COMMUNITY POLICING?

WHERE IS HILLARY'S MODEL FOR COMMUNITY POLICING?

WHAT IS THE WORLD'S MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE AND WHERE IS IT?

Jesus is The Lamb. The Truth is The Lion.

WHAT IS THE TRUTH THEY CANNOT ALLOW THE WORLD TO KNOW?

MolochHunter ago

did you send this response to the wrong person? You called me Srayzie

Im Moloch Hunter. You can tell that by the name at the top of my comment

SrayzieHazRabiez ago

Too scared to ping yourself Rayann?

I know why and find this very enjoyable!

MolochHunter ago

You make yourself look like such a loser

I know what Srayzies name is and it's not 'Rayann'

Who the fuck is called Ryann anyway I've never even heard anyone with that name

Anyway. Don't you have to go launder all the multitude of socks you sprayed into fantasising about Srayzie?

CrenschStench ago

What a coincidence you came on so quick, Mark must have your acct details like password too!

@Vindic8tor DIDNT EVEN PING YOU!!

You slipped hard, but dont worry, I wont ping too many people to see this!

@Kingzos @ESOTERICSHADE @CARMENCITA @PISCINA @Lansing-Michigan

Already got a report on Rayann ‎(رايانن) and (not Ryann idiot) and 1 spoiler alert for you, it is a popular Muslim name and a boys’ name too!

Tell Mark I said hi!

ESOTERICshade ago

Who the fuck is Mark and what are you talking about?

SrayzieHazScabies ago

Too scared to respond Rayann or is MH too scared to ping you?

Either way you are a scurred lil punk and this is very enjoyable!

@TrustTheTruth @ESOTERICSHADE @Lansing-Michigan

srayzie ago

I was away for a while. I"m not carrying on a conversation like this with some coward who's afraid to show their real username.

MolochHunter ago

you have mental issues

im just chillin here flossing my teeth

CrenschStench ago

you have mental issues

That is the best comeback you got? You are right, keep flossing the cum between your teeth. Hahahaha!

CrenschStench ago

Poor Mark isn't coming back, so sad..

Why not pinging whole crew?

You are flossing why? Cock cum doesnt lodge between teeth does it?

Crensch ago

Oh, here is the answer. Somebody who considers them self a researcher but can't look through a single submission and find the truth even a fifth grader could find.

Crensch ago

To append: the wording used makes ES sound like the victim, does it not?