CLAN OF WORMS PART 6: AHEPA & ANEMIA
In part 5, I covered how AHEPA & Sons Of Pericles President Stephen A Scopas escaped conviction in NY for operating an international orphan-stealing/dealing ring.
Here's his obituary: https://www.nytimes.com/1999/01/12/classified/paid-notice-deaths-scopas-stephen-s-sr.html
"Mr. Scopas served until his death as the National Chairman of the Ahepa Cooley's Anemia Foundation"
What is Cooley’s Anemia? It’s a genetic mutation that causes red blood cell irregularity. As a result, the blood is less capable of holding oxygen and iron.
http://www.thogde.org/c5/index.php/thalassemia-aid-without-borders/thalassemia/the-origins-of-thalassemia/
Thalassemia, also known as MEDITERRANIAN ANEMIA, is an ANCIENT group of diseases that have existed for over 7,000 years. The name thalassemia comes from the ANCIENT GREEK word for sea, thalassa, as the ancients believed it was an "illness that came from the sea". In 1925, pediatrician Thomas Benton Cooley published a work on thalassemia. This was the first description of the disorder, and for a long time it became known as Cooley's anemia.
Traditionally, beta thalassemia major is particularly prevalent in a belt stretching from West Africa through the Mediterranean, the Arabian Peninsula and the Black Sea to India, South China and South-East Asia. However, due to global mobility in modern times, sufferers are now found nearly everywhere. Throughout the world, it is estimated that 4.6 million children and adolescents are affected by thalassemia and every day hundreds of babies are born with this inherited disorder. A high number of CARRIERS of the thalassemia genetic trait are found in countries where MARRIAGE BETWEEN RELATIVES was, and still is, common practice and in third-world or emerging countries. Little or no schooling, social or religious stigmatization, and a lack of useful information and education all help to spread this genetic disorder. In many cultures, sick children, particularly girls, are often hidden away, abandoned or killed.
http://www.whonamedit.com/synd.cfm/2157.html
Countries like ITALY, GREECE, and Cyprus have the highest frequency of thalassaemia cases in the world, 10 percent of the Mediterranean population are carriers of this gene. There exists a thalassaemic "belt" that includes the Mediterranean passing through West and Central Asian countries like Turkey, Iran, Afghanistan onto Pakistan & India and passes on to the South East Asian countries like Indonesia, Burma & Thailand. Cooley and B. Lee (American physician) described the disease in children of Italian immigrants in the USA.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1521431/?page=1 (1952 article describing Mediterranean Anemia)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/06/050620003719.htm
Children's Hospital Oakland, a world recognized center for treatment and research of thalassemia, has formed an international network treating patients throughout the world. Thalassemia is the WORLD’S MOST COMMON GENETIC BLOOD DISORDER and it is RAPIDLY INCREASING. SEVEN PERCENT of the world's population are CARRIERS, and 400,000 affected babies are born each year. The World Health Organization (WHO) predicts a DOUBLING of these STATISTICS within the next few decades. Once rare in California, it has become the most frequent disorder detected in the state newborn screening program of over 700,000 annual births. Thalassemia is usually FATAL IN INFANCY unless ONGOING TRANSFUSIONS are initiated.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333734/ (study describing the ancient origins of Anemia in the Meditteranean, and (((Akzhiv-Israel)))...though it puts forth the totally unsupported claim that it developed in Africa)
http://www.pnas.org/content/88/1/310 (Evolution of a genetic disease in an ethnic isolate: beta-thalassemia in the Jews of Kurdistan 1991) “The present study constitutes an extensive molecular characterization of this disease in a small, highly inbred ethnic group with a high incidence of beta-thalassemia--the Jews of Kurdistan. An unusual mutational diversity was observed. In 42 sibships 13 different mutations were identified”
http://www.saintbarbara.org/our_parish/ahepa/
In 1972, the chapter joined hands with the Connecticut Campaign Against Cooley’s Anemia, and with Ahepan Congressman Robert Giaimo in introducing the Cooley’s Anemia Research Bill Act before the U.S. Congress, resulting in the National Funding for Cooley’s Anemia Research.
https://ahepa.org/programs/publichealth/
AHEPA Cooley's Anemia Foundation Cooley’s Anemia, also known as “Thalassemia”, is a rare but fatal genetic blood disorder. It mostly affects people of Mediterranean descent. In its most severe form it requires bone marrow transplants but usually those who are diagnosed experience symptoms of fatigue, weakness, paleness, and slow growth. Many are unaware they are carriers of the genetic disease until either their child suffers from it or a DNA test result is acquired. In it’s major form, Thalassemia “Cooley’s Anemia” is fatal and requires bone transplant surgery. In 1990, after the son of one of our chapter members was in need of this surgery, it quickly became obvious that an even greater need existed, thus the AHEPA Bone Marrow Donor Registry was incorporated. Today, there have been incredible breakthroughs in gene editing that may allow for children to live Thalassemia-free! Since 1947, AHEPA has supported the Aristotle University of Thessaloniki with the AHEPA Hospital wing. It has helped over 10 million patients and continues to serve the community of Thessaloniki today.
AHEPA-COOLEY ANEMIA partnered with NHLBI (leading blood researchers)
https://ahepa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/ahepa-public-policy-priorities-115th-Congress.pdf
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/results/NCT01319552?cond=%22beta+thalassemia%22&draw=3&rank=161 (Cooley-Anemia study: FRESH BLOOD IS BETTER ...National Heart, Lung, and Blood Institute (NHLBI-Partner with AHEPA-Cooley Anemia foundation) Steven L. Spitalnik, Columbia University)
What Vampires have long known, Medicine has proven. Blood transfusions are more effective when they are transfused within hours from when the blood is drawn. This creates the imperative for literal human blood banks. UNDERGROUND MEDICINE IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING
https://www.vampirerave.com/forum/message.php?message=28501&group=1&catid=1 (Vampirism Enthusiast forum: Anemia, is it related to vampires? Forum discusses Anemia being a source of Vampire legends, Individuals who practice Vampirism often have a form of Anemia, and inbreeding of families to keep wealth often led to Anemias)
All in all, I suspect that much of the PizzaGate, Ritual Sacrifice, Vampire/Werewolf Lore, Blood-letting and other blood-based cult activity has some biological, eugenic imperative. Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding. Inbreeding led to genetic diseases in wealthy families. These same organizations founded hospitals and have been doing inter-country medical research and population-wide genetic testing.
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Vindicator ago
@NOMOCHOMO, this is a very interesting theory, but you are taking several massive speculative leaps here that you haven't sufficiently supported. I'm sorry, but an emo vampire blog isn't sufficient evidence to support the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply.
The main problem you've got here is that vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse it -- which is a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass dating back at least a millennia. You need to show some evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims. You also need to show evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families. I've seen reports of flesh stolen, spinal fluid stolen and organs stolen -- but I have yet to see blood stolen. The genetic vampire theory is something we're going to have to treat as disinfo until further evidence comes in supporting it.
This would also need some linked evidence supporting it. I've seen families obsessed with blood lines. I've never heard of a religious order obsessed with it. Typically, religious orders require you to forgo all ties to your family line.
I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair in the off chance real evidence exists to support these claims, but then you'll have to repost in our speculative subverse (which was made for stuff like this).
@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
NOMOCHOMO ago
Thank you for the notice. Adding requested information now. But to immediately clarify, I'm using Vampirism as a metaphor. Though I will demonstrate that the first attempts at blood transfusion were done orally.
Vindicator ago
Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood. The links you provided do not give any evidence of this at all. You've added:
You have not edited your thread to make it clear you're "using Vampirism as a metaphor". Nor have you edited or removed the speculative claim from the vampire blog I already mentioned.
You provide no evidence whatsoever that
Therefore, I have to remove this thread per Rule 1.
@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall: In your view, should we flair the rest of the threads in this "series" as Possible Disinfo?
NOMOCHOMO ago
@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
@Vindicator
"Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood."
I've never made that thesis. I've avoided pedophilia/sexual abuse in all of my posts so far. Pizzagate includes the trafficking/abuse of children by Elites for reasons besides just pedophilia/SRA. You were closer when you summarized it as
"the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply"
...Still dismissive hyperbole. But closer. I'm saying that child & organ donation/blood trafficking are a part of Pizzagate. My post meets Rule 1: as it addresses "Physical abuse" & "Trafficking" by elites.
A. "Main problem Vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse...a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass"
I provided 2 books referencing early medicine and its development of "Vampirism" & "Medical Cannibalism" by elites, scientists, royalty, and the Catholic Church itself. I next provided a book by two doctors on the history of blood transfusion, The book describes multiple historical child victims of these blood transfusion experiments.
B. "evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims"
I provided evidence of "blood-farming" in multiple cities in India from 2011-2015, A book entitled "The Red Market: On the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, and Child Traffickers," and an official declaration from the government of Slovenia: Combating trafficking in human beings: Trafficking in human organs, tissues and BLOOD.
C. "evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families"
I provided multiple examples, you didn't address them, so I assume they were sufficient.
D. "evidence supporting...Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding"
I provided examples of blood-line preservation in The Mormon Church, Shiite Islam, the Fundamentalist Mormon Church, Ancient Hawaiian Tribes, Ancient Incans, Ancient Egyptians, and American Anabaptist populations.
I completely answered all of your concerns. You then removed my post for issues you never asked me to clarify (moving the goalposts)
Crensch ago
He doesn't need to ask for it to be "children's blood", it's in the fucking definition in the sidebar definition of pizzagate:
Now take your baffle-with-bullshit crap and fuck off to another subverse where @carmencita can suck your dick for writing a ton of complete nonsense whose only purpose is cause problems and detract from people serious about stopping child rapists and murderers.
@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @shizy
Crensch ago
Hey @Vindicator, remember when this faggot needed a mod to tell him PG needed to be about children and now he seems to need us to tell him it needs to be something ongoing so we can do something about it?
Don't let him forget that he needed this info from a mod.
srayzie ago
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NOMOCHOMO ago
@CRENSCH
"I proved that blood was harvested from trafficking victims like you asked. You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post. Nonetheless, I'd already provided sources with multiple examples:"
Both you and @Vindicator have still ignored my clarifying citation:
THE HISTORY OF BLOOD TRANSFUSION(https://www.ishim.net/Articles/Blood%20Transfusion%20in%20History.pdf) by Dr. Abdul Nasser Kaadan, 2009 Chairman, History of Medicine Department, Aleppo University, Syria. The President of International Society for the History of Islamic Medicine (www.ishim.net). MD, PhD & Dr. Mahmud Angrini, MD Master Degree Student, History of Medicine Department, Aleppo University, Syria. Master Degree in Laboratory Medicine
"it is reported that a physician (or mystic) of dubious reputation, named Abraham Meyre, appeared in the court and promised to save the Pope's life by transfusing him with the blood of young "donors". Apparently, THREE young 10-YEAR-OLD BOYS were selected as donors and Villari states that the blood of the dying Pope was passed into the veins of one of the boys, "... who gave him his own in exchange". The process was apparently repeated with the other two boys. All three boys apparently died shortly after the procedure, possibly as a result of air embolism, but there was no change to the Pope's condition. This story is however controversial and is open to interpretation, being based on translations from the original script. It is possible that this presumed transfusion‟ stems from an incorrect translation by Villari of an earlier account of the Pope's illness. If this is the case, what is likely to have happened is that the Pope was asked to drink the blood. In any event, all authors seem to agree that the three boys,"... costing one ducat a piece" died shortly after the procedure, as apparently did the Pope (presumably from his renal condition.
@Crensch, you and @Vindicator have still not addressed these instances of CHILDREN being drained of blood from the 2000s
CHINA By the STATE-RUN BLOOD CENTER
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-11/18/content_18931370.htm
"A total of ten victims, 7 under the age of 18"
INDIA
http://www.indiamedicaltimes.com/2015/08/09/blood-bank-sealed-for-luring-children-into-donating-blood-for-money/
" Three employees of the Kohli Blood Bank and Components...were booked on Friday for LURING CHILDREN — AS YOUNG AS 8 YEARS — into REPEATEDLY DONATING BLOOD. Allegedly run by Dr V K Kohli and his wife Dr Chitra Kohli, the Kohli Blood Bank and Components Pvt Ltd
AFRICA
http://thenationonlineng.net/police-uncover-illegal-blood-bank-at-bariga/
"Police Commissioner Imohimi Edgal led his men to arrest the suspect in his 18 Kusa Bus Stop, Bariga one-room apartment where he operated from. He was said to have collected blood from children there for sale to some clinics.
I don't mind editing my post for clarity. But deleting it, and flagging me as "disinfo" because you've misrepresented my evidence isn't right.
Vindicator ago
You provided no edits to the body of the post that included this link, nor in the link you did add to the body of the post as an extended edit.. You left in the BS about "what vampires have long known" which you were told either needed to be proven or removed, waving it off as "just a metaphor".
You have not shown how any of these instances is directly connected to the people we are investigating in this sub or any of the global elite, for that matter. Rule 1 requires that.
If you don't mind, then why didn't you do it during the 24 Hour Grace? None of the links you provided having to do with abuse of kids or blood harvesting of kids directly connect to to the people we are investigating in this sub. None.
It absolutely IS right when you refuse to edit, instead dump tons of baffle-with-bullshit ancient history into the post burying any relevant info, and then claim mods are "misrepresenting your evidence". That is why this subverse has moderators. We have a long history of disinfo pushers who try this tactic every month or two. You've chosen to present your information in as obscure, scattershot, indirect, throw-a-ton-of-shit-at-the-wall-and-see-what-sticks a way as possible and then blame moderators when it is removed. That is shillish behavior, Nomo. If you're not pushing disinfo, why are you doing it?
We've had many people who want to explore the ancient history of secret societies, SRA, adrenochrome, child sacrifice and the people and organizations from the far past who may have contributed to the current power structure. They all make their submissions in v/pizzagatewhatever when they can't establish a direct link to focus of v/pizzagate. Why should you be allowed to clutter the main board with indirectly related or speculative material when people like @argosciv or @3141592653 are not?
A furthermore, you were on Voat just 10 days before making this mess of a post. Do you really think it's appropriate to come into a community and start telling them how things should be run when you've done nothing to contribute to building it, protecting it from disinfo and disruption by its enemies, or otherwise earn the respect of it's members? Does that sound like the behavior of someone operating out of good will?
@think- @EricKaliberhall
NOMOCHOMO ago
Rule 1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities
Are we investigating the Elite or not? Catholic Church, Masonic Organizations, Royalty, and Elite Scientists? My evidence links directly to the Alefantis family. In my previous post I demonstrated how AHEPA's St Basil was harboring a 14 year old orphan for organ donation to her brother. In the next part of the series I show how the Granddaughter of Ahepa's most powerful president has medical and genomics holdings.
The entire organ donation industry is based on an extensive medical history of child abuse and child trafficking. all organ donations are at a demand surplus. Every time a kid is found to have been abused/organs stolen/blood drawn by the medical industry, it's to cure an ELITE wealthy member of society.
"the protection or assistance provided to people who engage in said activities" So the whole grey market organ system. From the poor indian, to the wealthier doctor, to the Elite transplant.
I'm sorry if it's disorganized, There are a ton of pieces and I was hoping to provide as much context as possible. As a history dude, I look at things as long term trends not isolated incidents. But there's a difference between ineptitude and shilling.
I'm not trying to get anyone demodded, I'm maintaining the conversation in a deleted post. I understand the paranoia though. I'm working on a version of this for pg-whatever based on @think- 's suggestions.
NOMOCHOMO ago
WRONG DUDE. Its the 2nd link on my "supplementary" comment. You either missed it, or are lying.
Here is the link to the comment: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2813591/14689436
So yes. You still are misrepresenting my evidence. Maybe unintentionally. But that's why I'm flipping out. I'm not telling you how to do your job. I'm defending my arguments.
Vindicator ago
It was not there when I looked at your edit, NOMO. And I'd be careful who you claim is lying, since you edited that comment at some point, without noting what you changed.
It doesn't really matter, though, because the link doesn't prove anything. It's just more historical stuff you failed to directly connect to anything our rules require.
It does not solve the essential problem with this thread -- it still breaks the damn rules. You've established no direct connection between all these scattered bits of history and the people we are investigating. Your refusal to take responsibility for this fact, while continuing to insist I am the problem is quite telling.
NOMOCHOMO ago
"either/or" I accused you of nothing @vindicator. I gave you a polite out, by saying you could have "missed it"
Now you are accusing me of lying by saying "it was not there when I looked at your edit"
Well (and I'm trying to be civil) that's BS. You refuse to accept that you might have made a mistake. I edited for formatting. The content was always there.
Well why didn't you say that the first time, as opposed to doubling down on the FALSE CLAIM that I didn't link the evidence?
I'm fine with you criticizing structure , order of the post, and quality of the evidence. But you've accused me of not supporting my claims...by falsely stating I haven't provided evidence. Then you used that as an excuse to try to discredit the rest of my posts.
I post historical evidence of the POPE being transfused with 3 10-year-olds blood, Royal Society members transfusing childrens' blood, a history of animal blood treatments for Anemia, and It seems like you and @crensch are arbitrarily deciding historical info is "too old", "dusty old shit", or not "connected" to the "people we are investigating"
Does AHEPA not count? How old does a post have to be about Catholic Church abuse to not apply towards pizzagate? I've seen posts about St Louis, NY, and many other dioceses that extend 50+ years. I see posts about Ritual Abuse that don't have ANY direct connection to the Alefantis/Podesta/Washington clan.
Do posts about elite child trafficking have a "statute of limitations" if they aren't related to pedophilia? because you haven't made that clear at all.
Rule 1 says Elite. and it doesn't provide any relevant time periods. So your argument that my evidence doesn't apply seems arbitrary. My post demonstrates the motivation behind multiple historical trafficking networks for the purpose of life extending technologies. And the catholic church is one obvious example. The technology was developed and drives much of child orphan/organ trafficking.
What are the people you are investigating? Is there a list I can reference? I thought it was any/all elite?
And for historical child trafficking networks? How old is too old?
Crensch ago
The kinds of relevant time periods that fucking matter in order to expose current happenings, you stupid fuck. Nobody gives a fuck about your history lessons of shit nobody can do anything about.
OF COURSE it's current shit.
@Vindicator this fuckwad wants to argue about historical networks not linked to current activity, it seems.
Go visit your family rehab center, you fucking meth head.
NOMOCHOMO ago
History forms the present @Crensch
Those who don't know the past are doomed to repeat it. I've proven the elite care about bloodlines. Nobody has contested that. So the history matters, and leads us to the hidden elite of modernity.
Read my submissions. most have been about current activity. LIKE REFORMING ADOPTION and DONOR laws to prevent AHEPA from trafficking children, and exposing the people profiting from this repugnant industry.
Your ad-hominems are so tiring. I can't prove a negative. You'll keep calling me Esoteric Shade because he's evidently poisoned the well on this topic.
Crensch ago
You are truly one stupid motherfucker, did you know that?
@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @shizy @EricKaliberhall
Lookie what I found here!
I never called him Esoteric Shade. Not once. I wonder where he got that from?
Shizy ago
Hmmmmm! Very interesting on a 16 day old account.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@Crensch
Vindicator:
....so yeah, dude, ya'll have been. I read your stickied post like @Vindicator asked, got context, and can see your lack of subtlety in insulting me/accusing me of being Esoteric
keep tilting at windmills dude. And keep appealing to ridicule. I'm gonna keep posting my research and try to ignore your weak bait.
srayzie ago
Where is the link of @Crensch saying this to you?
NOMOCHOMO ago
@srayzie
https://voat.co/v/JewsBlendingIn/2809338
"My referencing of meth is based on his sudden outburst accusing me of being a meth head; I can only conclude he has some kind of personal problems with a meth head in his life, so I make sure not to let him forget it."
really? Its not his pet insult. It's pointed.
Crensch ago
Anyone buying what you're selling yet, meth head?
NOMOCHOMO ago
Not selling anything dude. You keep proving my point.
Crensch ago
Nice backpedal from:
Kek.
NOMOCHOMO ago
No backpedal. "You'll" is future tense.
I'll put it on a first grade level for you. And double down.
"You will keep calling me Esoteric Shade because he has poisoned the well"
I got rid of "evidently". That's a pretty big word if you can't understand contractions
Crensch ago
@Carmencita
Do you see this, you stupid cunt? Your PEDOPHILE lost child, ESOTERICshade couldn't rub two neurons together long enough to keep a username alive for more than 16 days without being caught.
Keep supporting these faggots, you stupid whore; I'm starting to think all the child-fuckers you support that post here are really low IQ.
Crensch ago
Oh, cool. You finally got around to adding that in.
And grats on finding bad things happening to children in shithole countries like China, India, and, if I'm not mistaken, every country on the continent of Africa.
If you can clarify that in a post, I currently have no problems with it, but I'm not a day-to-day mod like @Vindicator and @think-. @Vindicator seems to be taking point on your BS posts, so be sure to work with him on that.
It takes a lot of effort to put up with long-winded faggots like you, who think needing CHILDREN addressed in a PIZZAGATE subverse is something a mod should have to mention.
If I wind up having to be the one to deal with you, nobody will wind up happy, so please make nice with the sickeningly nice and patient mods here so I don't have to bother.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Dude. in my original edit I linked evidence of child blood harvesting/transfusion/consumption for the Pope, Elite, and Royalty. I've continued linking a "History of Blood Transfusion" which documents how the entire concept of blood transfusions came from the idea that "young-blood" had healing capabilities.
I only added further evidence because @Vindicator moved the goalposts again and complains:
Vindicator cites "catholic mass going back millenia," but 17th, & 18th century experiments by the British Royal Society are "hundreds of years ago" and "not relevant/efficacious for treatment"
Efficacy is a made up standard. You don't require people posting about ritual aspects to prove that their magic works.
Crensch ago
I honestly don't care, since nothing in your post indicates where your edited content is. I'm not parsing your entire submission to find where you fucked up but chose not to highlight what changed.
Again? He did this more than once?
Pontificating over hundreds-of-years-old abuses is kind of stupid. And his part about it NOT BEING RELEVANT is that a hundreds-of-years-old lie of a medicinal practice that doesn't continue to today and isn't continued to today is irrelevant.
I don't read horseshit - did you link that old dusty shit to something relevant where someone could actually get a prison sentence, or are you just combing through history to feel important?
If it worked, it could be linked to other practices known to have X effect. If it's horseshit, there is no connection.
And, again, linking to ISLAMIC abuse of children - as if that'll somehow get someone arrested, or really make a difference to anyone at any point in time. Well played.
NOMOCHOMO ago
You just admitted that you didn't read the post before enforcement...
And you don't read "old dusty shit"...another straw man.
I followed moderator advice to add a link to a comment including the edits in the body of the post.
Is it a lie? Or does it not continue today? Which is it? You are the one asserting 2 contradictory statements WITHOUT any evidence.
History is the only way to contextualize trafficking. The medical industry developed due to institutionalized child abuse. By tracing the historical connections, it informs where to look for criminals today. Not to mention I'm explicitly naming the modern descendants of these people and their current medical and genetic company holdings.
By that logic, Mengele didn't traffick and abuse kids because his twin experiments were dismal failures.
That's a very narrow view. Information and logic builds on itself. Even failures Especially in medicine. The motivation for child trafficking isn't the point. The trafficking is all that matters
Finally, the only way we can reform the law is by understanding the historical precedent and resulting abuses. Do you want to actually stop this trafficking trade, or just lust for pedo prison justice?
Yeah @Vindicator has repeatedly moved his goalposts. I don't think it's malicious and he hasn't denied it.
Idk what you're on about Islam. I'm not a fan of the religion. But it's a forum slide. Stay on topic. Medical Child Trafficking.
Vindicator ago
Wrong Nomo. The goalposts are those established by the community -- the ruleset, which is in the sidebar. I attempted to give you some pointers about some of the things wrong with this thread. You ignored my suggestions. It's not incumbent on mods to rewrite shitty posts so that they meet the submission guidelines. We give you pointers because we care about this place and those trying to help the kids, not because we have to.
If you don't want posts removed, write tighter, to-the-point submissions. If you want the community and/or mods to help you edit posts that aren't quite on point, don't dumb six massive submissions on the board in 48 hours, and don't bury the most relevant information way down in the Comment section.
@Crensch @think- @kevdude this ^^^^ is exactly the same tactic that EsotericShade used to get Falcon demodded. I'd say it's looking more clear by the minute that NomoChomo is a new ES alt, sadly.
NOMOCHOMO ago
dude. by goalposts. I'm talking about the suggestions you claim I ignored.
You asked for more evidence. @think- told me it was fine to add a link to the comments with the requested citations (and also has been super helpful btw)
The only reason Crensch was summoned was because you misread or ignored my supplementary citations. I included specific secondary sources. I'm fine making it tighter. But don't fucking call me a shill while simultaneously acknowledging the quality of my other posts. You ignored my citation; Crensch didn't read it, and called "dusty old shit"
Vindicator ago
I didn't ignore it, NOMO. It wasn't there when I read the comment. Nor did it help your case, even after you added it. Your headline claims Alefantis and his Greek pals are draining kid's blood. That link did not prove that claim.
NOMOCHOMO ago
Dude, you must have missed it. I have my internet history (https://ibb.co/hPkP8L) and document drafts of my post. If it wasn't formatted properly I apologize, but the link and quoted text was posted in the initial comment
No. that isn't what my headline claims.
"Clan of Worms: The Vampires of AHEPA (Pt. 6 AHEPA & Thalassemia)"
Please stop putting words in my mouth.
My argument has been this: 1. Inbreeding creates genetic disorders 2. There was heavy inbreeding in Greece which led to most ethnic greeks carrying defective genes 3. These defective genes require consistent blood transfusions, bone marrow transplants 4. AHEPA pioneered research/blood drives because many of its members had blood diseases.
you then asked me to prove "elite/royalty/cabal" have anemia, prove "blood" was harvested from "trafficking victims", and prove that "religious orders" encouraged inbreeding
I did that, and you have consistently misrepresented my response.
Vindicator ago
This is a lie, on it's face. You chose the words, Nomo. "Vampire" means "draining blood".
None of those four points satisfy Rule 1, Nomo. So if that is your argument, I suggest you stop wasting everyone's time, repost this in v/pizzagatewhatever and demonstrate you actually care about this subverse and respect the rules the community has set up. In the future, I recommend you clearly state your thesis and how and why it is directly related to the abuse of kids by the global elite. Directly related means demonstrably connected to people alive today. I recommend you don't write ambiguous headlines that don't meet Rule 3 or make claims you aren't prepared to back up, since titles cannot be edited after 10 minutes. To put it another way, I recommend you not write submissions that are a "can of worms".
I also recommend that you avoid turning mod attempts to give you the benefit of the doubt and point you in the right direction into endless quibbling and argument. It just makes you look like someone who cares more about your pet subject and ego than your fellow v/pizzagate users who want mods, want the submission rules, and expect everyone to abide by them.
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/vampire
Vampire doesn't mean "draining blood". That's "exsanguination"
Vampire (Noun) 1. (in European folklore) a corpse supposed to leave its grave at night to drink the blood of the living by biting their necks with long pointed canine teeth.
1.1 A person who preys ruthlessly on others. ‘the protectionist vampires in the Congress’
Origin Mid 18th century: from French, from Hungarian vampir, perhaps from Turkish uber ‘witch’.
The term is widely used in political discourse. I've never accused AHEPA of literally drinking blood. All of my posts have been titled "Vampires of Ahepa" because the organization itself is parasitic in nature. As OSS operatives they destabilized Greece for US policy purposes. Then they imported orphans illegally. Then they began funding/sponsoring blood drives/research for a parasitic medical industry.
Thank you for your clarity in this response. I am revising accordingly.
Crensch ago
Yes. I didn't read your shit post. Because I didn't enforce anything on your shit post.
I also explained to you why your shit post is still a shit post.
Now you can stop arguing like a dishonest esoteric faggot on meth.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@Crensch
Current Definition of "Pizzagate" https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1533862
Relevant areas of research may include but are not limited to:
Any entities or events with domestic or global connections to organized pedophilia and human trafficking of minors
** Organ trafficking linked to disposing of the victims of pedophilia and child trafficking**
Explain to me how I'm not meeting the submission guidelines.
Vindicator ago
Where did you show children's blood was being harvested?
NOMOCHOMO ago
"You need to show some evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims...I've seen reports of flesh stolen, spinal fluid stolen and organs stolen -- but I have yet to see blood stolen"
I proved that blood was harvested from trafficking victims like you asked. You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post. Nonetheless, I'd already provided sources with multiple examples:
https://www.ishim.net/Articles/Blood%20Transfusion%20in%20History.pdf
Historical Summary:
"The practicality of transfusion has, to some degree, paralleled and in some instances been the consequence of, developments in other sciences. The idea though of the theoretical beneficial effects of blood transfusion has been recognized for over three centuries. This older history is based on the traditional idea of blood as being the "living-force" of the body....Blood was recognized as having numerous mysterious properties, including initially that of carrying both the mental and physical characters of its owner. EARLY ATTEMPTS AT REPLACING LOST BLOOD involved the DRINKING OF BLOOD by the patient. By choice, this was from a YOUNG, HEALTHY, FIT PERSON or animal. The legend of the vampire originates from this concept. This somewhat mystical fascination with the properties of blood is to some degree still with us today" (pg 1)
Instance 1:
"On one occasion, after all means to revive the Pope had failed, it is reported that a physician (or mystic) of dubious reputation, named Abraham Meyre, appeared in the court and promised to save the Pope‟s life by transfusing him with the blood of young "donors". Apparently, three young 10-year-old shepherd boys were selected as donors and Villari states that the blood of the dying Pope was passed into the veins ofone of the boys, "... who gave him his own in exchange". The process was apparently repeated with the other two boys. All three boys apparently died shortly after the procedure, possibly as a result of air embolism, but there was no change to the Pope's condition.
This story is however controversial and is open to interpretation, being based on translations from the original script. It is possible that this presumed "transfusion" stems from an incorrect translation by Villari of an earlier account of the Pope's illness. If this is the case, what is likely to have happened is that the Pope was asked to drink the blood. In any event, all authors seem to agree that the three boys,"costing one ducat a piece", died shortly after the procedure, as apparently did the Pope." (pg 13)
Instance 2:
"In 1654 Florentine physician, Francesco Folli wrote: "This I pointed out in my pamphlet on life culture which was published for no other reason than to make known to all that blood transfusion had been invented by me at the end of 1654 and demonstrated to his Serene Highness Ferdinand II, Grande Duke of Tuscany, of undying memory. The novelty of it had pleased him, or the fascinating ingenuity or the considerable experimental elaboration. To no one else did I impart my idea, believing that if such an invention were successful, MONARCH ALONE WERE WORTHY OF IT."Later Folli described in some detail the apparatus required and the method of using it. He even postulates the presence of TWENTY YOUNG MEN AS BLOOD DONORS, so that the PATIENT MAY RECEIVE FRESH BLOOD of a FRESH DONOR every day over a considerable period." (pg 15)
There's a few other historical/mythological references in that book to young people being drained of blood to be transfused into ROYALTY.
Now there are also modern examples:
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-11/18/content_18931370.htm
BEIJING - The National Health and Family Planning Commission (NHFPC) issued a circular denouncing forced blood donations in Northwest China's Gansu province on Monday. China condemns illegal blood collection Seven arrested over China blood scandal. A total of ten victims, including seven under the age of 18 were forced to donate blood every month between November 2013 and May 2014, the circular said. Seven people in Wuwei, Gansu province were orchestrated the scandal. They were led by a man named Huang, who was identified as the deputy chief of a state-run blood center, and illegally collected 10,700 yuan ($ 1,742) from more than 48 forced blood donations.
Children were beaten and threatened if they did not cooperate. The scam was uncovered when one boy sought his parents' help after being beaten. Local police arrested six of the seven suspects, with one suspect declared exempt from criminal responsibility for being underage. NHFPC called on nationwide blood centers and pharmaceutical companies to learn from the scandal. It also required local drug administration to strengthen supervision to eliminate further violations.In China, the legal age for blood donation is from 18 to 55. Blood centers are required to double-check the donor's identity before taking blood
https://www.nrc.no/perspectives/2016/where-dead-childrens-bodies-are-big-business/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560011/Children-mutilated-drained-blood-ritual-killings-African-politicians-hoping-election-luck.html
http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/NotOnlyInLiberia_Gabon.htm
http://thenationonlineng.net/police-uncover-illegal-blood-bank-at-bariga/
"Police Commissioner Imohimi Edgal led his men to arrest the suspect in his 18 Kusa Bus Stop, Bariga one-room apartment where he operated from. He was said to have collected blood from children there for sale to some clinics. It was gathered that the police recovered seven pints of blood from his home. According to residents, the suspect got into trouble on June 10, after a 17-year-old boy, Ayomide Adesanya, he collected two pints of blood from, passed out. He was said to have earlier drawn two pints of blood from the same victim on June 4. The suspect reportedly gave the victim N2,000 on each occasion. Edgal, who visited Adesanya in hospital, told reporters that the suspect lured underage children with N2,000. The suspect, the police chief said, had confessed that he sold the blood for N7,000."
It isn't even standardized/regulated effectively in the USA
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24018922_Critical_evaluation_of_informed_consent_forms_for_adult_and_minor_aged_whole_blood_donation_used_by_United_States_blood_centers
"Blood donation is a medical procedure with attendant risks, and thus blood donors should undergo acceptable informed consent. There are no guidelines for the informed consent forms (ICFs) for whole blood donors or for parental consent forms (PCFs) for minor age blood donors. The goal of the study was to determine if the majority of the generally accepted elements of informed consent are provided to volunteer allogeneic whole blood donors in the United States. ICFs and PCFs along with their accompanying general information forms (GIFs) from nonmilitary blood collection establishments for allogeneic whole blood donation were collected throughout the United States and scored using a system based on the essential elements of informed consent derived from guidelines of consent for research subjects. The overall score for each ICF and PCF was obtained. Twenty-one ICFs and 37 PCFs from 48 states representing major collection centers within the United States were scored. The mean score for the common essential elements ICFs was 35 percent (range, 10%-80%) and for PCFs was 46 percent (range, 10%-90%). None of the whole blood allogeneic donation informed consents surveyed contained all the common essential or specific blood donation information desired. There is a need for national guidelines for the informed consent process for both the donor and the parent of a minor to ensure adequate information is specified. "
Vindicator ago
Wrong, dude. You can clearly see the sidebar, which lays out the definition of pizzagate being about the abuse of kids by the elite. You are welcome to complain to @Crensch if you think I unfairly pulled your post. I asked you to state your pizzagate thesis and support it directly with linked evidence. You added paragraphs of material and numerous links that did not do that. You also refused to edit the speculative statements I specifically called out.
NOMOCHOMO ago
@Vindicator
Illegal blood transfusion is physical and medical abuse. Please refute my statements. Stop restating rules. You have already conceded your artificial restriction that my post be about Elite sexual abuse.
"called out" =/= remove/edit. I would have deleted the "emo blog" if you had asked me to. you asked for "sufficient evidence" I added multiple instances of children being drained of blood. From Early history through the modern day.
You first said I was taking "speculative leaps", Now you're saying I haven't edited the "speculative statements"
Can you please be specific instead of insulting and vague?
NOMOCHOMO ago
And @carmencita provided this gem from 2011
BBC "African children trafficked to UK for blood rituals"
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-15280776
I've already previously provided links to AFRICAN body/blood brokering
https://www.nrc.no/perspectives/2016/where-dead-childrens-bodies-are-big-business/
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560011/Children-mutilated-drained-blood-ritual-killings-African-politicians-hoping-election-luck.html
http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/NotOnlyInLiberia_Gabon.htm
http://thenationonlineng.net/police-uncover-illegal-blood-bank-at-bariga/
NOMOCHOMO ago
2005 article citing a case from September 2001 in the UK. Black boy drained of blood prompts British police to discover 300 missing black kids.
https://www.greensboro.com/news/world/britain-hunts-for-lost-children/article_40046eeb-8038-5b08-8946-5209088c69af.html
Britain hunts for 300 lost children: In September 2001, in the River Thames near the soaring columns of Tower Bridge, the police discovered the torso of a black-skinned child they called Adam. The suggestion from subsequent investigations was that he had died in some kind of ritualistic murder linked to West African witchcraft.
Years later, the discovery has brought another chilling fact to light: In the three months before the body was found, 300 other black boys between 4 and 7 years of age were missing or unaccounted for. “We were really looking at black children, black male children, aged between 4 and 7, and we found 300 of those that couldn’t be accounted for,” Detective Chief Inspector Will O’Reilly told British radio on Friday. “In the main, these were African children.” What happened to the boys remains a mystery. While the police said they had no evidence of murder, they also acknowledged that the absence of immigration records prevented the authorities from tracing the youngsters.
When the police discovered Adam’s body , they found it had been DRAINED OF BLOOD. Forensic tests found a poisonous bean in his stomach and traces of crushed bone and clay pellets studded with gold and quartz in his lower intestine.
The police questioned people who were supposed to be taking care of the missing children and were often told that they had returned to Africa. Only two of the missing children were traced. It is not unusual for African parents to send children to Britain and other places to be looked after by relatives and sent to school. But the people who look after them are not obliged to register with British authorities.
"THE PEOPLE WHO LOOK AFTER THEM ARE NOT OBLIGED TO REGISTER WITH BRITISH AUTHORITIES"
...it's almost like they are systematizing abuse with lax rules on international adoptions.....
NOMOCHOMO ago
https://digitalcommons.wcl.american.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=1439&context=auilr
As early as 1995 scholars have noted the ethics of child-blood and organ transplantation are poorly enforced/implemented
NOMOCHOMO ago
@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
@Vindicator
Moved Goalposts & Misrepresentations of Evidence:
My posted evidence clearly indicates it IS EFFECTIVE and used in MODERN TIMES. You didn't address the longstanding SUCCESSFUL medical treatments of EATING cowsblood for anemics/pregnant women. You also didn't address Dr. Steven Gruenstein, a hematologist at Mount Sinai Hospital in New York, who says some people may be drawn to DRINKING BLOOD due to an IRON DEFICIENCY (anemia) or the absence of another mineral.
Nowhere does the article say the "17 people freed" were all adult men. You again forgot Slovenia. I can give you more countries, and instances of underage donors, but you didn't ask for children, you asked for trafficking victims. You also didn't address the 2011 book "The Red Market" which includes "blood farming, and child trafficking" in its title. Also the articles explicitly state the blood industry in India is driven by child Beta-Thalassemics!
You didn't ask me to to do this, I volunteered the clarification. Its an incredibly apt and accurate metaphor (from a historical, linguistic perspective, and in modern political discourse).
You didn't ask me to edit/remove, you asked for real evidence exists to support these claims
Pedophilia is not my focus in any of these posts! Again you are excluding medical abuse and trafficking by elites from your definition of Pizzagate. My posts meet rule 1. I'm not going to attempt to prove your strawman.
Totally new concern you're asking me to substantiate. But I've previously demonstrated a Greek orphan named "KT" was brought to the US for organ donation to her "brother". She resided in the AHEPA supported Stephan Scopas founded orphanage St. Basil's Academy. The NY family services dept brought a lawsuit against them for it, claiming she was brought here illegally.
I can happily substantiate underage children are abducted for their blood. Not necessarily raped again, you're putting words in my mouth.
My main point is our current system allows for LEGALIZED medical child abuse. To effectively stop this evil of child trafficking, we need to focus on the adoption and medical structures that create the child-trafficking pipelines. One of the first is legalized/mandated anonymity of the birth parents/source donor. We need this information tracked and documented, not destroyed or legally censored.
NOMOCHOMO ago
"Both phenomena [Human & Tissue Trafficking] are under the domain of well-organised CRIMINAL NETWORKS in which TRAVEL AGENCIES, PRIVATE CLINICS, HEALTH WORKERS, PEOPLE SOLICITING VICTIMS and others COOPERATE ."
If we only focus on pedophilia, we are missing the forest for the trees.