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Vindicator ago

What Vampires have long known, Medicine has proven. Blood transfusions are more effective when they are transfused within hours from when the blood is drawn. This creates the imperative for literal human blood banks. UNDERGROUND MEDICINE IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING

@NOMOCHOMO, this is a very interesting theory, but you are taking several massive speculative leaps here that you haven't sufficiently supported. I'm sorry, but an emo vampire blog isn't sufficient evidence to support the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply.

The main problem you've got here is that vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse it -- which is a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass dating back at least a millennia. You need to show some evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims. You also need to show evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families. I've seen reports of flesh stolen, spinal fluid stolen and organs stolen -- but I have yet to see blood stolen. The genetic vampire theory is something we're going to have to treat as disinfo until further evidence comes in supporting it.

Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding.

This would also need some linked evidence supporting it. I've seen families obsessed with blood lines. I've never heard of a religious order obsessed with it. Typically, religious orders require you to forgo all ties to your family line.

I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair in the off chance real evidence exists to support these claims, but then you'll have to repost in our speculative subverse (which was made for stuff like this).

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thank you for the notice. Adding requested information now. But to immediately clarify, I'm using Vampirism as a metaphor. Though I will demonstrate that the first attempts at blood transfusion were done orally.

Vindicator ago

Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood. The links you provided do not give any evidence of this at all. You've added:

  • evidence of blood drinking as medicine from hundreds of years ago which is not relevant, since it is not actually efficacious for treatment
  • evidence of blood farming from adult men in India for local use

You have not edited your thread to make it clear you're "using Vampirism as a metaphor". Nor have you edited or removed the speculative claim from the vampire blog I already mentioned.

You provide no evidence whatsoever that

  • there is any connection between pedophilia among the elite (pizzagate) and this blood theory
  • the orphans that were brought from Greece were abused sexually or used for their blood
  • children anywhere are being abducted and raped for their blood

Therefore, I have to remove this thread per Rule 1.

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall: In your view, should we flair the rest of the threads in this "series" as Possible Disinfo?

NOMOCHOMO ago

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall

@Vindicator

  1. You're putting words in my mouth.

"Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood."

I've never made that thesis. I've avoided pedophilia/sexual abuse in all of my posts so far. Pizzagate includes the trafficking/abuse of children by Elites for reasons besides just pedophilia/SRA. You were closer when you summarized it as

"the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply"

...Still dismissive hyperbole. But closer. I'm saying that child & organ donation/blood trafficking are a part of Pizzagate. My post meets Rule 1: as it addresses "Physical abuse" & "Trafficking" by elites.

  1. I've satisfied your requested edits. You 1st asked me to provide evidence for 4 points:

A. "Main problem Vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse...a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass"

I provided 2 books referencing early medicine and its development of "Vampirism" & "Medical Cannibalism" by elites, scientists, royalty, and the Catholic Church itself. I next provided a book by two doctors on the history of blood transfusion, The book describes multiple historical child victims of these blood transfusion experiments.

B. "evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims"

I provided evidence of "blood-farming" in multiple cities in India from 2011-2015, A book entitled "The Red Market: On the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, and Child Traffickers," and an official declaration from the government of Slovenia: Combating trafficking in human beings: Trafficking in human organs, tissues and BLOOD.

C. "evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families"

I provided multiple examples, you didn't address them, so I assume they were sufficient.

D. "evidence supporting...Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding"

I provided examples of blood-line preservation in The Mormon Church, Shiite Islam, the Fundamentalist Mormon Church, Ancient Hawaiian Tribes, Ancient Incans, Ancient Egyptians, and American Anabaptist populations.

I completely answered all of your concerns. You then removed my post for issues you never asked me to clarify (moving the goalposts)

Vindicator ago

Where did you show children's blood was being harvested?

NOMOCHOMO ago

"You need to show some evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims...I've seen reports of flesh stolen, spinal fluid stolen and organs stolen -- but I have yet to see blood stolen"

I proved that blood was harvested from trafficking victims like you asked. You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post. Nonetheless, I'd already provided sources with multiple examples:

https://www.ishim.net/Articles/Blood%20Transfusion%20in%20History.pdf

Historical Summary:

"The practicality of transfusion has, to some degree, paralleled and in some instances been the consequence of, developments in other sciences. The idea though of the theoretical beneficial effects of blood transfusion has been recognized for over three centuries. This older history is based on the traditional idea of blood as being the "living-force" of the body....Blood was recognized as having numerous mysterious properties, including initially that of carrying both the mental and physical characters of its owner. EARLY ATTEMPTS AT REPLACING LOST BLOOD involved the DRINKING OF BLOOD by the patient. By choice, this was from a YOUNG, HEALTHY, FIT PERSON or animal. The legend of the vampire originates from this concept. This somewhat mystical fascination with the properties of blood is to some degree still with us today" (pg 1)

Instance 1:

"On one occasion, after all means to revive the Pope had failed, it is reported that a physician (or mystic) of dubious reputation, named Abraham Meyre, appeared in the court and promised to save the Pope‟s life by transfusing him with the blood of young "donors". Apparently, three young 10-year-old shepherd boys were selected as donors and Villari states that the blood of the dying Pope was passed into the veins ofone of the boys, "... who gave him his own in exchange". The process was apparently repeated with the other two boys. All three boys apparently died shortly after the procedure, possibly as a result of air embolism, but there was no change to the Pope's condition.

This story is however controversial and is open to interpretation, being based on translations from the original script. It is possible that this presumed "transfusion" stems from an incorrect translation by Villari of an earlier account of the Pope's illness. If this is the case, what is likely to have happened is that the Pope was asked to drink the blood. In any event, all authors seem to agree that the three boys,"costing one ducat a piece", died shortly after the procedure, as apparently did the Pope." (pg 13)

Instance 2:

"In 1654 Florentine physician, Francesco Folli wrote: "This I pointed out in my pamphlet on life culture which was published for no other reason than to make known to all that blood transfusion had been invented by me at the end of 1654 and demonstrated to his Serene Highness Ferdinand II, Grande Duke of Tuscany, of undying memory. The novelty of it had pleased him, or the fascinating ingenuity or the considerable experimental elaboration. To no one else did I impart my idea, believing that if such an invention were successful, MONARCH ALONE WERE WORTHY OF IT."Later Folli described in some detail the apparatus required and the method of using it. He even postulates the presence of TWENTY YOUNG MEN AS BLOOD DONORS, so that the PATIENT MAY RECEIVE FRESH BLOOD of a FRESH DONOR every day over a considerable period." (pg 15)

There's a few other historical/mythological references in that book to young people being drained of blood to be transfused into ROYALTY.

Now there are also modern examples:

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-11/18/content_18931370.htm

BEIJING - The National Health and Family Planning Commission (NHFPC) issued a circular denouncing forced blood donations in Northwest China's Gansu province on Monday. China condemns illegal blood collection Seven arrested over China blood scandal. A total of ten victims, including seven under the age of 18 were forced to donate blood every month between November 2013 and May 2014, the circular said. Seven people in Wuwei, Gansu province were orchestrated the scandal. They were led by a man named Huang, who was identified as the deputy chief of a state-run blood center, and illegally collected 10,700 yuan ($ 1,742) from more than 48 forced blood donations.

Children were beaten and threatened if they did not cooperate. The scam was uncovered when one boy sought his parents' help after being beaten. Local police arrested six of the seven suspects, with one suspect declared exempt from criminal responsibility for being underage. NHFPC called on nationwide blood centers and pharmaceutical companies to learn from the scandal. It also required local drug administration to strengthen supervision to eliminate further violations.In China, the legal age for blood donation is from 18 to 55. Blood centers are required to double-check the donor's identity before taking blood

https://www.nrc.no/perspectives/2016/where-dead-childrens-bodies-are-big-business/

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-560011/Children-mutilated-drained-blood-ritual-killings-African-politicians-hoping-election-luck.html

http://www.liberiapastandpresent.org/NotOnlyInLiberia_Gabon.htm

http://thenationonlineng.net/police-uncover-illegal-blood-bank-at-bariga/

"Police Commissioner Imohimi Edgal led his men to arrest the suspect in his 18 Kusa Bus Stop, Bariga one-room apartment where he operated from. He was said to have collected blood from children there for sale to some clinics. It was gathered that the police recovered seven pints of blood from his home. According to residents, the suspect got into trouble on June 10, after a 17-year-old boy, Ayomide Adesanya, he collected two pints of blood from, passed out. He was said to have earlier drawn two pints of blood from the same victim on June 4. The suspect reportedly gave the victim N2,000 on each occasion. Edgal, who visited Adesanya in hospital, told reporters that the suspect lured underage children with N2,000. The suspect, the police chief said, had confessed that he sold the blood for N7,000."

It isn't even standardized/regulated effectively in the USA

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/24018922_Critical_evaluation_of_informed_consent_forms_for_adult_and_minor_aged_whole_blood_donation_used_by_United_States_blood_centers

"Blood donation is a medical procedure with attendant risks, and thus blood donors should undergo acceptable informed consent. There are no guidelines for the informed consent forms (ICFs) for whole blood donors or for parental consent forms (PCFs) for minor age blood donors. The goal of the study was to determine if the majority of the generally accepted elements of informed consent are provided to volunteer allogeneic whole blood donors in the United States. ICFs and PCFs along with their accompanying general information forms (GIFs) from nonmilitary blood collection establishments for allogeneic whole blood donation were collected throughout the United States and scored using a system based on the essential elements of informed consent derived from guidelines of consent for research subjects. The overall score for each ICF and PCF was obtained. Twenty-one ICFs and 37 PCFs from 48 states representing major collection centers within the United States were scored. The mean score for the common essential elements ICFs was 35 percent (range, 10%-80%) and for PCFs was 46 percent (range, 10%-90%). None of the whole blood allogeneic donation informed consents surveyed contained all the common essential or specific blood donation information desired. There is a need for national guidelines for the informed consent process for both the donor and the parent of a minor to ensure adequate information is specified. "

Vindicator ago

You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post.

Wrong, dude. You can clearly see the sidebar, which lays out the definition of pizzagate being about the abuse of kids by the elite. You are welcome to complain to @Crensch if you think I unfairly pulled your post. I asked you to state your pizzagate thesis and support it directly with linked evidence. You added paragraphs of material and numerous links that did not do that. You also refused to edit the speculative statements I specifically called out.

NOMOCHOMO ago

@Vindicator

Wrong, dude. You can clearly see the sidebar, which lays out the definition of pizzagate being about the abuse of kids by the elite

Illegal blood transfusion is physical and medical abuse. Please refute my statements. Stop restating rules. You have already conceded your artificial restriction that my post be about Elite sexual abuse.

I asked you to state your pizzagate thesis and support it directly with linked evidence. You added paragraphs of material and numerous links that did not do that. You also refused to edit the speculative statements I specifically called out.

"called out" =/= remove/edit. I would have deleted the "emo blog" if you had asked me to. you asked for "sufficient evidence" I added multiple instances of children being drained of blood. From Early history through the modern day.

You first said I was taking "speculative leaps", Now you're saying I haven't edited the "speculative statements"

Can you please be specific instead of insulting and vague?

NOMOCHOMO ago

2005 article citing a case from September 2001 in the UK. Black boy drained of blood prompts British police to discover 300 missing black kids.

https://www.greensboro.com/news/world/britain-hunts-for-lost-children/article_40046eeb-8038-5b08-8946-5209088c69af.html

Britain hunts for 300 lost children: In September 2001, in the River Thames near the soaring columns of Tower Bridge, the police discovered the torso of a black-skinned child they called Adam. The suggestion from subsequent investigations was that he had died in some kind of ritualistic murder linked to West African witchcraft.

Years later, the discovery has brought another chilling fact to light: In the three months before the body was found, 300 other black boys between 4 and 7 years of age were missing or unaccounted for. “We were really looking at black children, black male children, aged between 4 and 7, and we found 300 of those that couldn’t be accounted for,” Detective Chief Inspector Will O’Reilly told British radio on Friday. “In the main, these were African children.” What happened to the boys remains a mystery. While the police said they had no evidence of murder, they also acknowledged that the absence of immigration records prevented the authorities from tracing the youngsters.

When the police discovered Adam’s body , they found it had been DRAINED OF BLOOD. Forensic tests found a poisonous bean in his stomach and traces of crushed bone and clay pellets studded with gold and quartz in his lower intestine.

The police questioned people who were supposed to be taking care of the missing children and were often told that they had returned to Africa. Only two of the missing children were traced. It is not unusual for African parents to send children to Britain and other places to be looked after by relatives and sent to school. But the people who look after them are not obliged to register with British authorities.

"THE PEOPLE WHO LOOK AFTER THEM ARE NOT OBLIGED TO REGISTER WITH BRITISH AUTHORITIES"

...it's almost like they are systematizing abuse with lax rules on international adoptions.....