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Vindicator ago

What Vampires have long known, Medicine has proven. Blood transfusions are more effective when they are transfused within hours from when the blood is drawn. This creates the imperative for literal human blood banks. UNDERGROUND MEDICINE IS HUMAN TRAFFICKING

@NOMOCHOMO, this is a very interesting theory, but you are taking several massive speculative leaps here that you haven't sufficiently supported. I'm sorry, but an emo vampire blog isn't sufficient evidence to support the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply.

The main problem you've got here is that vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse it -- which is a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass dating back at least a millennia. You need to show some evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims. You also need to show evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families. I've seen reports of flesh stolen, spinal fluid stolen and organs stolen -- but I have yet to see blood stolen. The genetic vampire theory is something we're going to have to treat as disinfo until further evidence comes in supporting it.

Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding.

This would also need some linked evidence supporting it. I've seen families obsessed with blood lines. I've never heard of a religious order obsessed with it. Typically, religious orders require you to forgo all ties to your family line.

I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair in the off chance real evidence exists to support these claims, but then you'll have to repost in our speculative subverse (which was made for stuff like this).

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall

NOMOCHOMO ago

Thank you for the notice. Adding requested information now. But to immediately clarify, I'm using Vampirism as a metaphor. Though I will demonstrate that the first attempts at blood transfusion were done orally.

Vindicator ago

Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood. The links you provided do not give any evidence of this at all. You've added:

  • evidence of blood drinking as medicine from hundreds of years ago which is not relevant, since it is not actually efficacious for treatment
  • evidence of blood farming from adult men in India for local use

You have not edited your thread to make it clear you're "using Vampirism as a metaphor". Nor have you edited or removed the speculative claim from the vampire blog I already mentioned.

You provide no evidence whatsoever that

  • there is any connection between pedophilia among the elite (pizzagate) and this blood theory
  • the orphans that were brought from Greece were abused sexually or used for their blood
  • children anywhere are being abducted and raped for their blood

Therefore, I have to remove this thread per Rule 1.

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall: In your view, should we flair the rest of the threads in this "series" as Possible Disinfo?

NOMOCHOMO ago

@think- @Crensch @EricKaliberhall

@Vindicator

  1. You're putting words in my mouth.

"Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood."

I've never made that thesis. I've avoided pedophilia/sexual abuse in all of my posts so far. Pizzagate includes the trafficking/abuse of children by Elites for reasons besides just pedophilia/SRA. You were closer when you summarized it as

"the theory that a cabal of anemic super-rich are behind global child trafficking for their blood supply"

...Still dismissive hyperbole. But closer. I'm saying that child & organ donation/blood trafficking are a part of Pizzagate. My post meets Rule 1: as it addresses "Physical abuse" & "Trafficking" by elites.

  1. I've satisfied your requested edits. You 1st asked me to provide evidence for 4 points:

A. "Main problem Vampires supposedly drink blood, not transfuse...a clear bastardization of the Catholic Mass"

I provided 2 books referencing early medicine and its development of "Vampirism" & "Medical Cannibalism" by elites, scientists, royalty, and the Catholic Church itself. I next provided a book by two doctors on the history of blood transfusion, The book describes multiple historical child victims of these blood transfusion experiments.

B. "evidence of blood being stolen from trafficking victims"

I provided evidence of "blood-farming" in multiple cities in India from 2011-2015, A book entitled "The Red Market: On the Trail of the World's Organ Brokers, Bone Thieves, Blood Farmers, and Child Traffickers," and an official declaration from the government of Slovenia: Combating trafficking in human beings: Trafficking in human organs, tissues and BLOOD.

C. "evidence of this anemia being prevalent in Cabal families"

I provided multiple examples, you didn't address them, so I assume they were sufficient.

D. "evidence supporting...Religious orders have long been obsessed with Blood-Lines which led to inbreeding"

I provided examples of blood-line preservation in The Mormon Church, Shiite Islam, the Fundamentalist Mormon Church, Ancient Hawaiian Tribes, Ancient Incans, Ancient Egyptians, and American Anabaptist populations.

I completely answered all of your concerns. You then removed my post for issues you never asked me to clarify (moving the goalposts)

Crensch ago

"Thank you for the additional links. Unfortunately, they do not help support the pizzagate thesis you appear to be trying to make here: that the elite are kidnapping and sexually abusing kids to take their blood."

I've never made that thesis. I've avoided pedophilia/sexual abuse in all of my posts so far. Pizzagate includes the trafficking/abuse of children by Elites for reasons besides just pedophilia/SRA. You were closer when you summarized it as

I proved that blood was harvested from trafficking victims like you asked. You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post. Nonetheless, I'd already provided sources with multiple examples:

He doesn't need to ask for it to be "children's blood", it's in the fucking definition in the sidebar definition of pizzagate:

Relevant submissions would be any content that can be linked (by the OP in a sourced explanation) to organized human trafficking of children, the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of those children, and/or the systematic cover up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities.

Now take your baffle-with-bullshit crap and fuck off to another subverse where @carmencita can suck your dick for writing a ton of complete nonsense whose only purpose is cause problems and detract from people serious about stopping child rapists and murderers.

@Vindicator @think- @srayzie @shizy

NOMOCHOMO ago

@CRENSCH

"Relevant submissions would be any content that can be linked (by the OP in a sourced explanation) to organized human trafficking of children, the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of those children, and/or the systematic cover up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities."

"I proved that blood was harvested from trafficking victims like you asked. You didn't ask for "children's blood" until after you deleted my post. Nonetheless, I'd already provided sources with multiple examples:"

Both you and @Vindicator have still ignored my clarifying citation:

THE HISTORY OF BLOOD TRANSFUSION(https://www.ishim.net/Articles/Blood%20Transfusion%20in%20History.pdf) by Dr. Abdul Nasser Kaadan, 2009 Chairman, History of Medicine Department, Aleppo University, Syria. The President of International Society for the History of Islamic Medicine (www.ishim.net). MD, PhD & Dr. Mahmud Angrini, MD Master Degree Student, History of Medicine Department, Aleppo University, Syria. Master Degree in Laboratory Medicine

"it is reported that a physician (or mystic) of dubious reputation, named Abraham Meyre, appeared in the court and promised to save the Pope's life by transfusing him with the blood of young "donors". Apparently, THREE young 10-YEAR-OLD BOYS were selected as donors and Villari states that the blood of the dying Pope was passed into the veins of one of the boys, "... who gave him his own in exchange". The process was apparently repeated with the other two boys. All three boys apparently died shortly after the procedure, possibly as a result of air embolism, but there was no change to the Pope's condition. This story is however controversial and is open to interpretation, being based on translations from the original script. It is possible that this presumed transfusion‟ stems from an incorrect translation by Villari of an earlier account of the Pope's illness. If this is the case, what is likely to have happened is that the Pope was asked to drink the blood. In any event, all authors seem to agree that the three boys,"... costing one ducat a piece" died shortly after the procedure, as apparently did the Pope (presumably from his renal condition.

@Crensch, you and @Vindicator have still not addressed these instances of CHILDREN being drained of blood from the 2000s

CHINA By the STATE-RUN BLOOD CENTER

http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2014-11/18/content_18931370.htm

"A total of ten victims, 7 under the age of 18"

INDIA

http://www.indiamedicaltimes.com/2015/08/09/blood-bank-sealed-for-luring-children-into-donating-blood-for-money/

" Three employees of the Kohli Blood Bank and Components...were booked on Friday for LURING CHILDREN — AS YOUNG AS 8 YEARS — into REPEATEDLY DONATING BLOOD. Allegedly run by Dr V K Kohli and his wife Dr Chitra Kohli, the Kohli Blood Bank and Components Pvt Ltd

AFRICA

http://thenationonlineng.net/police-uncover-illegal-blood-bank-at-bariga/

"Police Commissioner Imohimi Edgal led his men to arrest the suspect in his 18 Kusa Bus Stop, Bariga one-room apartment where he operated from. He was said to have collected blood from children there for sale to some clinics.

I don't mind editing my post for clarity. But deleting it, and flagging me as "disinfo" because you've misrepresented my evidence isn't right.

Crensch ago

Oh, cool. You finally got around to adding that in.

And grats on finding bad things happening to children in shithole countries like China, India, and, if I'm not mistaken, every country on the continent of Africa.

If you can clarify that in a post, I currently have no problems with it, but I'm not a day-to-day mod like @Vindicator and @think-. @Vindicator seems to be taking point on your BS posts, so be sure to work with him on that.

It takes a lot of effort to put up with long-winded faggots like you, who think needing CHILDREN addressed in a PIZZAGATE subverse is something a mod should have to mention.

If I wind up having to be the one to deal with you, nobody will wind up happy, so please make nice with the sickeningly nice and patient mods here so I don't have to bother.

NOMOCHOMO ago

"Oh, cool. You finally got around to adding that in."

Dude. in my original edit I linked evidence of child blood harvesting/transfusion/consumption for the Pope, Elite, and Royalty. I've continued linking a "History of Blood Transfusion" which documents how the entire concept of blood transfusions came from the idea that "young-blood" had healing capabilities.

I only added further evidence because @Vindicator moved the goalposts again and complains:

"evidence of blood drinking as medicine from hundreds of years ago which is not relevant, since it is not actually efficacious for treatment"

Vindicator cites "catholic mass going back millenia," but 17th, & 18th century experiments by the British Royal Society are "hundreds of years ago" and "not relevant/efficacious for treatment"

Efficacy is a made up standard. You don't require people posting about ritual aspects to prove that their magic works.

Crensch ago

Dude. in my original edit I linked evidence of child blood harvesting/transfusion/consumption for the Pope, Elite, and Royalty. I've continued linking a "History of Blood Transfusion" which documents how the entire concept of blood transfusions came from the idea that "young-blood" had healing capabilities.

I honestly don't care, since nothing in your post indicates where your edited content is. I'm not parsing your entire submission to find where you fucked up but chose not to highlight what changed.

I only added further evidence because @Vindicator moved the goalposts again and complains:

Again? He did this more than once?

Vindicator cites "catholic mass going back millenia," but 17th, & 18th century experiments by the British Royal Society are "hundreds of years ago" and "not relevant/efficacious for treatment"

Pontificating over hundreds-of-years-old abuses is kind of stupid. And his part about it NOT BEING RELEVANT is that a hundreds-of-years-old lie of a medicinal practice that doesn't continue to today and isn't continued to today is irrelevant.

I don't read horseshit - did you link that old dusty shit to something relevant where someone could actually get a prison sentence, or are you just combing through history to feel important?

Efficacy is a made up standard. You don't require people posting about ritual aspects to prove that their magic works.

If it worked, it could be linked to other practices known to have X effect. If it's horseshit, there is no connection.

And, again, linking to ISLAMIC abuse of children - as if that'll somehow get someone arrested, or really make a difference to anyone at any point in time. Well played.

NOMOCHOMO ago

You just admitted that you didn't read the post before enforcement...

And you don't read "old dusty shit"...another straw man.

I followed moderator advice to add a link to a comment including the edits in the body of the post.

"A hundreds-of-years-old lie of a medicinal practice that doesn't continue today, and isn't continued today"

Is it a lie? Or does it not continue today? Which is it? You are the one asserting 2 contradictory statements WITHOUT any evidence.

History is the only way to contextualize trafficking. The medical industry developed due to institutionalized child abuse. By tracing the historical connections, it informs where to look for criminals today. Not to mention I'm explicitly naming the modern descendants of these people and their current medical and genetic company holdings.

"If it worked it, it could be linked to other practices known to have X effect. If it's horseshit there is no connection"

By that logic, Mengele didn't traffick and abuse kids because his twin experiments were dismal failures.

That's a very narrow view. Information and logic builds on itself. Even failures Especially in medicine. The motivation for child trafficking isn't the point. The trafficking is all that matters

Finally, the only way we can reform the law is by understanding the historical precedent and resulting abuses. Do you want to actually stop this trafficking trade, or just lust for pedo prison justice?

Yeah @Vindicator has repeatedly moved his goalposts. I don't think it's malicious and he hasn't denied it.

Idk what you're on about Islam. I'm not a fan of the religion. But it's a forum slide. Stay on topic. Medical Child Trafficking.

Vindicator ago

Yeah @Vindicator has repeatedly moved his goalposts. I don't think it's malicious and he hasn't denied it.

Wrong Nomo. The goalposts are those established by the community -- the ruleset, which is in the sidebar. I attempted to give you some pointers about some of the things wrong with this thread. You ignored my suggestions. It's not incumbent on mods to rewrite shitty posts so that they meet the submission guidelines. We give you pointers because we care about this place and those trying to help the kids, not because we have to.

If you don't want posts removed, write tighter, to-the-point submissions. If you want the community and/or mods to help you edit posts that aren't quite on point, don't dumb six massive submissions on the board in 48 hours, and don't bury the most relevant information way down in the Comment section.

You just admitted that you didn't read the post before enforcement...

@Crensch @think- @kevdude this ^^^^ is exactly the same tactic that EsotericShade used to get Falcon demodded. I'd say it's looking more clear by the minute that NomoChomo is a new ES alt, sadly.

NOMOCHOMO ago

dude. by goalposts. I'm talking about the suggestions you claim I ignored.

"I will give this the 24 Hour Grace flair in the off chance real evidence exists to support these claims, but then you'll have to repost in our speculative subverse (which was made for stuff like this)."

You asked for more evidence. @think- told me it was fine to add a link to the comments with the requested citations (and also has been super helpful btw)

The only reason Crensch was summoned was because you misread or ignored my supplementary citations. I included specific secondary sources. I'm fine making it tighter. But don't fucking call me a shill while simultaneously acknowledging the quality of my other posts. You ignored my citation; Crensch didn't read it, and called "dusty old shit"

Vindicator ago

I didn't ignore it, NOMO. It wasn't there when I read the comment. Nor did it help your case, even after you added it. Your headline claims Alefantis and his Greek pals are draining kid's blood. That link did not prove that claim.

NOMOCHOMO ago

"I didn't ignore it, NOMO. It wasn't there when I read the comment."

Dude, you must have missed it. I have my internet history (https://ibb.co/hPkP8L) and document drafts of my post. If it wasn't formatted properly I apologize, but the link and quoted text was posted in the initial comment

"Your headline claims Alefantis and his Greek pals are draining kid's blood. That link did not prove that claim."

No. that isn't what my headline claims.

"Clan of Worms: The Vampires of AHEPA (Pt. 6 AHEPA & Thalassemia)"

Please stop putting words in my mouth.

My argument has been this: 1. Inbreeding creates genetic disorders 2. There was heavy inbreeding in Greece which led to most ethnic greeks carrying defective genes 3. These defective genes require consistent blood transfusions, bone marrow transplants 4. AHEPA pioneered research/blood drives because many of its members had blood diseases.

you then asked me to prove "elite/royalty/cabal" have anemia, prove "blood" was harvested from "trafficking victims", and prove that "religious orders" encouraged inbreeding

I did that, and you have consistently misrepresented my response.

Vindicator ago

"Your headline claims Alefantis and his Greek pals are draining kid's blood. That link did not prove that claim."

No. that isn't what my headline claims.

"Clan of Worms: The Vampires of AHEPA (Pt. 6 AHEPA & Thalassemia)"

Please stop putting words in my mouth.

This is a lie, on it's face. You chose the words, Nomo. "Vampire" means "draining blood".

My argument has been this:

  1. Inbreeding creates genetic disorders
  2. There was heavy inbreeding in Greece which led to most ethnic greeks carrying defective genes
  3. These defective genes require consistent blood transfusions, bone marrow transplants
  4. AHEPA pioneered research/blood drives because many of its members had these blood diseases.

None of those four points satisfy Rule 1, Nomo. So if that is your argument, I suggest you stop wasting everyone's time, repost this in v/pizzagatewhatever and demonstrate you actually care about this subverse and respect the rules the community has set up. In the future, I recommend you clearly state your thesis and how and why it is directly related to the abuse of kids by the global elite. Directly related means demonstrably connected to people alive today. I recommend you don't write ambiguous headlines that don't meet Rule 3 or make claims you aren't prepared to back up, since titles cannot be edited after 10 minutes. To put it another way, I recommend you not write submissions that are a "can of worms".

I also recommend that you avoid turning mod attempts to give you the benefit of the doubt and point you in the right direction into endless quibbling and argument. It just makes you look like someone who cares more about your pet subject and ego than your fellow v/pizzagate users who want mods, want the submission rules, and expect everyone to abide by them.

NOMOCHOMO ago

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/vampire

Vampire doesn't mean "draining blood". That's "exsanguination"

Vampire (Noun) 1. (in European folklore) a corpse supposed to leave its grave at night to drink the blood of the living by biting their necks with long pointed canine teeth.

1.1 A person who preys ruthlessly on others. ‘the protectionist vampires in the Congress’

Origin Mid 18th century: from French, from Hungarian vampir, perhaps from Turkish uber ‘witch’.

The term is widely used in political discourse. I've never accused AHEPA of literally drinking blood. All of my posts have been titled "Vampires of Ahepa" because the organization itself is parasitic in nature. As OSS operatives they destabilized Greece for US policy purposes. Then they imported orphans illegally. Then they began funding/sponsoring blood drives/research for a parasitic medical industry.

Thank you for your clarity in this response. I am revising accordingly.