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Vindicator ago

Proposal #3: Change mods/owners (various ideas)

Please vote and comment -- be specific about what you are voting for or against please

Silverlining ago

@Millennial_Falcon should be encouraged to resign. He spends hours here and adds nothing, just upsetting people.

I would be happy to resign ownership of https://voat.co/v/MillennialFalcon in his favor, if he leaves off moderating this subverse.

He would get his life back.

And @kingkongwaswrong might as well move on at the same time. Absentee landlords are so last century, if not the one before that!

Millennial_Falcon ago

Spent a full week writing the executive summary. Spend ~1 hour+ of my time every day refreshing /new to maintain the quality of the sub and prevent shills from spamming nonsense, disinfo, and off-topic slide posts, something that nobody else has been willing to do so far.

"adds nothing, just upsetting people"

pick one.

There are two kinds of people who get upset by my moderating. One is shills/trolls like Amalek. Another is paranoid types (a great recent example is @hojoruku) who think I'm trying to censor them because I ask them to take 2 minutes to add needed info to their post. Well, to be fair, there's a third issue. Some users simply don't understand that actual evidence is important and it gets buried and hidden if we allow the slippery slope of tons of barely-relevant posts.

UgTr2 ago

@Silverlining is right, you should resign. Banning people for a single comment which draws attention a contentious issue is not about spam, regardless of what you put in the deletion log.

Millennial_Falcon ago

Banning people for a single comment which draws attention a contentious issue

Thanks for the input, 8-day-old account, but I haven't done any such thing. I ban users for spamming posts (i.e. reposting already-removed posts) that break the rules (and sometimes that takes the form of the user linking their post in a new post complaining about the removal). I have been cracking down on Amalek (aka spamalek) alt accounts, though, and I may have been a bit overzealous, in that I experimented with "test-banning" accounts that are inexplicably supportive of his shitposts, to see if those accounts are just sockpuppets or not. I have always been reasonable about bans. If the user is well-intentioned, I will always reverse the ban, often without even being asked.

That said, I would be happy to step down if there were someone to take my place. As it is, I've been the only one willing to do the job consistently and persistently.

UgTr2 ago

Thanks for the input, 8-day-old account, but I haven't done any such thing.

Actually, you have. This account is relatively new because you banned me as Ugly Truth after I posted this

If the user is well-intentioned, I will always reverse the ban, often without even being asked.

How are you going to know if they are well intentioned or not if they're banned? You could have simply looked at their post history.

Millennial_Falcon ago

lol. you practically asked me to ban you ("will MF ban me too?"). Jem777 was banned to test if s/he is an Amalek sockpuppet. I did the same to test your account. If you had messaged me to ask me about it, I would have reversed the ban right away. Account history doesn't really prove anything. Amalek knows how to create fake personas.

UgTr2 ago

Asking a question is not the same as requesting a ban. The reason that people get banned should be because they're not abiding by the rules rather than some other arbitrary criteria. Account histories give a good indication of intent, proof of intent is a difficult thing to measure. If your test was even meaningful, then why haven't you unbanned me?

Millennial_Falcon ago

If your test was even meaningful, then why haven't you unbanned me?

Because you never messaged me in response to the ban. Hence, I concluded you either don't log into the account very often (sockpuppet) or you don't care much about it (sockpuppet).

UgTr2 ago

Why would I message you about it when we've been discussing the issue on this thread?