I was following a lead, and I came across @WolfTrail7272. They haven’t posted in 3 months, and their last comment was
I know something, and anyone who has spoken with me in private messages should know, I think I have more than a small lead on what the wonderland club turned into.
on this thread: "pedophile rights movement" (PIE, PAL) and The Wonderland Club
Prior to three months ago, @WolfTrail7272 seems to have been an active user. They also mention having spoken to the FBI and witholding information in an attempt to force them to follow through on an issue:
Also, the info I spoke with the FBI with was not anything I've posted before. I'm holding it private unless I believe no action has been taken, then their hand can be forced. I do trust the FBI, to be clear, to do the right thing, and I think giving them time to collect data is the proper way to build a case. I will not rush them, but what I do want is for them to listen to me and I want to see/hear some confirmation that they have followed up. I trust they will give me this confirmation in time.
Should we follow up on Wonderland and other topics that @WolfTrail7272 may have been working on? I think they might have been onto something.
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Votescam ago
In looking at this thread: "pedophile rights movement" (PIE, PAL) and The Wonderland Club .... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1668187
I don't know if everyone would agree with me but as I look at it there are two separate issues ....
Other than by legal subterfuge, I see no way that the American public's opinion on pedophilia as something to be condemned and as a crime can be changed other than by legal subterfuge. The American public will not buy the idea that children can be sexually assaulted and that it would not be a crime. Nor will they buy the idea that children are capable of full and aware consent, especially such consent which would permit sexual activity between themselves and adults. However, legal subterfuge is something to be watched carefully, especially because of majority now of right wingers on the Supreme Court.
I am not saying that both aren't serious issues, but that they are different issues ....
The other issue ....
From the above, if the Wonderland Club still exists somewhere on the internet, I presume that pedophiles can be found there. And perhaps some information about their activities which might give some new insights as to how organized pedophiles may be there, and what role the Wonderland Club may play in child pornography, or child trafficking.
carmencita ago
I thought you might be interested in @Wolftrail7272 Submission on the Wonderland Club https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1604989
Votescam ago
Read it now and there is a LOT there .... of course again involving the Catholic Church and their pedophile priests ....
Sometimes I think the police might just as well camp outside all of the churches.
Obviously, some of the police must have tracked this back to that address ... right?
carmencita ago
Most definitely there is snuff going on. The Wonderland Club has just been relocated. As I have said before there is too much money to be made to just let it fade away. There is an article about the place called Club Ped. The priests are sent from all over the country to this place. It goes as high up as the Cardinal. http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news2010/05_06/2010_05_06_Ksdk_ClubPed.htm Part 1 There is a Part 2 as well. It will open your eyes. Also here is a link about Fr. Fred Lenczycki who came from Joliet Il. and ended up in Forest Park Hosp. http://www.bishop-accountability.org/news99/2002_04_24_Slowik_5thDiocesan.htm he is connected to Ricky McCormick https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1587392 That should be a good start. I feel like I am Wolftrail and you are me.
Votescam ago
Took me a while to get back to you -- didn't make note of your username ....
But did check out those websites -- and all of those priests should be in jail serving sentences. HOWEVER ... in cases where we are saying that pedophilia may be a sickness that can't be cured ... and it does seem that way, then imo they should be confined to a facility for the mentally ill. But they should never be left with the RCC in charge of what happens to them.
Was also happy to see SNAP involved with the investigations as was wondering if I should post your links to them.
The part of the story which deals with Ricky McCormick is also interesting as we can only believe that the real involvement in this trafficking and cover for it comes from Elites .... HOWEVER, we do know that there are thugs used for kidnappings if you're familiar with Belgium case/Dutroux and that likely they are pedophiles. And that many of them may know the names of higher up's.
I certainly couldn't break the "code" in the notes that were found on him -- and was very interested and reading the thread where someone thought they broke the code and now I can't find my way back to it. But I will check my "history" tomorrow and hopefully will find it again.
Anyway, the police never confirm that this was Ricky's handwriting. How do we know it was? Maybe these two notes were given to him by someone else. Obviously someone took his ID off of his person because they had to use fingerprints to ID him. Why would that person leave notes on him?
The whole hospital story is freakish and his visit to Forest Park and having been in jail with the priest who worked there-- but FBI don't say if they checked the hospital records to find out what he was doing there?
Or who he saw which presumably would have been a doctor. Not sure either what kind of work the priest was doing there?
Notice that he had heart & lung problems -- which would probably also make him a poor candidate for organ donations. Evidently he was on "disability" so presume the health problems were real.
The family and father denies that Ricky knew anything about codes. It's confusing ... as some o the info says he dropped out of high school, but he could read & write. Family again says he'd "jot nonsense and call it writing." Father says he could only write his name. No capacity to write such notes.
FBI had asked people to send in suggestions about the notes -- but I couldn't find the list of suggestions. But they mentioned that some said automotive terms -- instructions -- or serial numbers -- technical stuff. Vin #'s. Hospital terminology - or something to do with medications.
The fact that it has dots and at least one dash between letters suggests to me it could be URL's, but also notice it doesn't include any ////'s which are usually used in website addresses.
Looks also like he suffered a head injury.
Found only 5 days after last seen alive and weighed only 73 pounds.
Still not sure if "Wonderland Club" is an actual physical establishment or on internet -- and if latter, has anyone found a new link to it on internet?
Of course, we all want this to move faster and the whole thing to fall .... But I also think that this church stuff goes right to the top -- the Pope -- and always has .. except for Pope John XXIII who tried to make the church a democracy with Vatican II. In that regard I'm trusting that the women of the church and those who support birth control and a democratic church will continue to whittle away at it until it falls.
So -- basically I've added nothing to this but will remain tuned in for updates.
I'm generally around here at some point every day/evening.
carmencita ago
No one has broken the code, the person that said they did, did not break it. Ricky was known to have his own way of communicating and writing in HIS own way or code. People knew about it and there was not any rhyme or reason to it, it was his own design. Ricky was a pedophile and had a couple of kids with teens, underage. Also, I am going to tell you that Ricky had the coloboma eye. He befriended the priest who was a horrible priest from Joliet Il. Wolf and I figured he may have been robbed of organs for he was way too light. About the Wonderland Club, look up Operation Cathedral which was a global raid on CP. It no longer exists under that name. Wolf seems to think it has morphed into something else and so do I. Also the Jane Doe of St. Louis case is extremely fascinating and is listed on Wikipedia. Wolf always tried to impress upon me that Obama's favorite pizza place was PI Pizza in St. Louis. Reggie Love is from St. Louis. Yes this goes all the way to the top. Bishop Carlson is in control of it all. Also very important is Westlake Landfill. Loaded with Uranium from the Manhattan Project. There is a never ending burning fire there. Also Organ harvesting is a big biz in St. Louis. That's enough for now. I would suggest to look at his Submissions. Will be busy tomorrow but can write in eve. Great to hear your interest.
Votescam ago
Hi -- Will take a look when I have time -- Just want to mention -- and no need for reply -- that in looking at the situation with male circumcision, they are using the tissue for various commercial products - quite expensive, actually. Don't know if you've seen any of my posts on this subject (See: The Bloodstained Men) but the foreskin is actually a sexual organ which they are removing ... obviously to make masturbation and intercourse less pleasurable. Others have also said that it creates an irritation, more frequent erections, premature ejaculation. https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylc=X3oDMTFiN25laTRvBF9TAzIwMjM1MzgwNzUEaXRjAzEEc2VjA3NyY2hfcWEEc2xrA3NyY2h3ZWI-?p=male+foreskin+tissue+being+used+in+commercial+products&fr=yfp-t&fp=1&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8
Votescam ago
OK -- I haven't looked at everything that's archived on Wolf, but fairly caught up. There is too much, of course, to hold in your mind but the record will be very important for those researching.
I'll look at these links tonight --
I've been aware of John Stockwell former CIA but this year is the first time I heard him say that the CIA is "Catholics In Action." Also believe they've been very involved in campaign to demonize Muslims -- a large part of it covert over 40 years -- and CIA involved in trying in every way to create a more violent wing of Islam.
Wonderland Club is simply website -- right? Is there a new link to it?
Gotta go -- have some things to do --
SNOWDEN movie will play on cable Sunday night/Showtime
Just Watching some of "Burn Motherf..., Burn! The squeeze of LAPD racism and humiliation of the citizens combined with CIA's "Dark Alliance."
Thanks for the info - CIA is key to all of this, imo. But it's a really immense agenda to serve Elites who want everything.
Cable companies now given huge monopolies to spread violent porn -- and they keep moving CP into the mix, imo -- and as others have pointed out here (I think) into other regular programming.
Think YouTube is another target where Google takeover signals use as a tool for right wing ... to stop info about Pizza-gate, but also to destroy the effort at truth-telling which YouTube has been part of over decades now.
It's promising that both the left and the right can come together on this issue of sexual abuse of children. Really like that -- !!
carmencita ago
I am glad too that we can unite on something so important too, for I believe that we all agree on so many things if we just stop to think. Wonderland has morphed into another type of moneymaker, that is something that Wolftrail told me, but I know and feel that he cannot divulge.As far as I know, he may not be positive as to what it is, and I don't either. All I know is that they would never give up a way to make money. Yes, CIA was Catholics In Action before they hijacked it and stuffed it full of Nazis and Jesuits. Same with the Vatican. The info I sent you was just something to get you going and there is no rush, for this stuff is not easy.
Votescam ago
Hi -- thanks -- I'm working my way through the thread -- and will add this link to others.
:)
Jem777 ago
You can't possibly believe what you are writing. Why in the world would you attempt over and over in your posts to blame right-wingers now mentioning the Supreme Court while championing "Democratic Socialism" This is not a political argument where you use child trafficking as a tool. There are no moral heroes in any political party or ideology. We will not look into PIE & the Wonderland Club to gain new insights as into how organized pedophiles may be there if they still exist as you say! We don't need insight, what other insight do you need. Take action. We need more @Wolftrail7272. Get on them and pressure them 24/7 and call your senators and Congressman and the President. I have over & over. There are others that have sent letters and others naming names. Yes it is dangerous but what are the options do we just let these kids and these heroes down?
@carmecita @jangles @dressage2
Votescam ago
Jem --
Why would I blame right wingers? Are you kidding me? Just who do you think the !% are? Who do you think Elites are? Who do you think corporations are? Who do you think the people who control government and our political parties are?
Who do you think our Founders put in control of our people's government? Who do you think our Founders redistributed the nation's wealth to other than the right wing?
Democratic socialism is a liberal concept -- don't confuse it with what Hitler did to Nazi party or with the fakery of Russian communism. Democratic socialism has nothing whatsoever to do with them.
You don't recognize that the balance of the Supreme Court is now in the hands of the right wing? Actually, even those appointed by Obama are right-wing in the sense that they are corporate shills.
And ... What in the heck does this mean?
Here's what I said about Wonderland Club ... based in the poster's idea that we should be finding out more about pedophiles and how they work ....
And we do need "insight" into every issue that we are trying to understand and deal with and hope to overturn.
I've long been active in contacting Congress and media -- phones, email, snail mail, etal.