Poll: Let''s hear your opinion on proposed changes and amendments to our Submission Rules! (pizzagate)

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Hi all! We suggest several clarifications, amendments and changes to the submission rules. These changes would include:

  • A: Language from the community-developed definition of Pizzagate will be included directly in the wording of Rule 1.

  • B: A link with examples of posts that do or do not pass Rule 1 is already available.

  • C: Rule 2 will include what was formerly a part of Rule 4 (all posts need at least one link)

  • D: We suggest disabling of "share a link" posts (you would still be able to post a link as a discussion post). The reason for suggesting to delete this option is to encourage good descriptions (i.e. attention to Rule 3), which often are not possible with the character limit for titles. (We asked our developer to re-install the 'share a link' buttons until the community has decided)

  • E: Clarification of Rule 3 to state that a good title must establish direct relevance to Pizzagate.

  • F: Amendment of Rule 3 to require descriptions of unembedded links in posts. (It is much easier for users to make sense of a post if you tell us the significance of your links.)

  • G: Rule 4 will be much more clear. (It isn't really a rule, so much as it is directing where to post certain posts that don't pass Rule 1). It will also specify that memes and sourced activism/publicity posts are now allowed.

  • H: Rule 5 (no standalone memes) will be axed, and rule 6 (NSFW posts must be labeled) will take its place. Standalone memes will be allowed, so long as they support the investigation.

You can compare the old and suggested new versions here:

OLD NEW
For Submitters Submission Rules
Below are the Submission Requirements. Please review before you submit content. Submissions not meeting these requirements will be removed. See also "subverse best practices"
1 ALL submissions should be directly related to Pizzagate, and this is how we define Pizzagate. It is the responsibility of the poster to demonstrate relevance. In most cases this will require a Discussion post where you provide a brief explanation of how your content relates to the investigation. Sometimes there will be content (like an article on Pizzagate) where a link post with an accurate, descriptive title will be enough to satisfy this requirement. 1: Relevance: Posts must be directly relevant to investigation of Pizzagate: the sexual/physical abuse and/or murder of children by elites, child trafficking organized by elites, and/or cover-up of these activities and/or the protection/assistance provided to the people who engage in said activities. See definition of Pizzagate and examples of relevant posts.
2 EVERY claim that is made as part of your post needs to be sourced. If you are asking a question, give a brief summary of what led to your question, and provide sources for those elements. If you are giving an explanation of how your content relates to Pizzagate (satisfying Rule 1), and you need to connect a few dots to do so, please provide sources for your "dots". If you wish to ask general questions about Pizzagate, please do so here. 2: Empiricism: EACH factual claim that is not common knowledge must be sourced with a link. If you ask a question: Explain what led to your question and provide sources. If you present opinion/argument, connect your dots and provide sources for them. Avoid baseless speculation. ALL posts must include at least one link.
3 LINK posts (VIDEO, IMAGE, ARTICLE, etc.) all need to include an accurate description of the actual content. If you can't provide an accurate summary in the title of a Link post then you must submit it as a Discussion post where you provide the link with a brief description of the content. 3: Clarity: All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to Pizzagate. EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post (except when markup is used to embed links in the specific text they support). To help ensure adequate descriptions, "share a link" posts are not allowed.
4 META submissions and general discussion submissions without sources will be removed. To avoid diluting the front page, please make those sorts of submissions here. Please bring any meta concerns you have here (this is also where the mods will discuss moderating the sub, so you are welcome to participate in those conversations as well). 4: Please submit indirectly relevant posts to /v/pizzagatewhatever and unsourced questions to /v/AskPizzagate. Sourced activism / publicity posts and memes are allowed. Posts about the subverse itself go to /v/pizzagatemods.
5 Standalone MEMES will be removed. Please post standalone memes here. If you feel that a given meme can be used to raise awareness, please link it as part of a Discussion post where you source the elements that it is related to and discuss the best ways to use it. If you want to discuss the accuracy of a meme, again, link it in a Discussion post that sources the relevant elements from the investigation. (N.A.)
6 NSFW submissions (gore, nudity, etc.) must be labeled as such. This is not an adult subverse. 5: You must label NSFW posts (“Not safe for work”; for example gore, nudity etc.) as such when submitting.
Adspam, illegal content, and personal info about Voat subscribers will be removed, and the offender will be banned. Adspam, illegal content, and personal info about Voat subscribers will be removed, and the offender will be banned.
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remedy4reality ago

yeah... So all you mods are looking like a bunch of fucking lazy commies who make work while others DO WORK..

As a whole, I feel you're a bunch of lazy cunts who get off on controlling the narrative, rather than helping towards the end goal of the INVESTIGATION. I hate @MillenniumFalcon, with a passion. I actually think he is a pedophile.. Fuck your changes. Fuck your micromanaging.. Get the FUCK out of the way.

Fuck you.

VieBleu ago

LOL wow your anger put a real smile on my face. thank you.

The fact that this broken place dares to ask for thousands of dollars per month when it can't even keep a search engine running on a INVESTIGATION forum, then comes back with this kind of backpeddling bs sticky because they have no traffic anymore is pure farce - makes me laugh, but not with the genuine joy that I get from reading your in the face comment mi amigo.

AngryMimi ago

Well, don't hold back, tell us how you really feel.

neverobey ago

wherever I see @remedy4reality he/she spits fire. No way criticising anything without swearing. Maybe should work on your technique in criticising people. Yesterday cou called me a cunt in a discussion because I wasn't the same opinion as you were. Here you do it again. Maybe give yourself a rest? Do you think it could be helpful to devide all of us?

birthdaysuit11 ago

Anyone is a cunt who censors information and micromanages the shit out of other peoples research.

VieBleu ago

Sometimes you've got to light some fires to keep cold complacency from settling in permanently.

If you don't think this place has been scorched and abused and divided long ago by the people who run it, you just don't know the history of this place well enough. At the very beginning, I was attacked by moderators and drained of comment points so that I was silenced for a couple of weeks, just for bringing in an influx of almost 500 new subscribers. Many other commenters were drained of points in the same couple of days, because the mods needed to control and groom the forum - their twisted version of "free speech". I was attacked by mods and accused of trying to build voting brigades or some such nonsense - I didn't even know what they were talking about.

And that was just the begining. So don't worry too much about @remedy4reality 's or anybody's curse words dividing anyone here - that is handled by the professionals at the top, and always has been.

grlldcheese ago

I told you once, back when, about powermods.

Darling, you err on the side of powermod culture. Be careful.

The mods at a place like this doubt people like you more than people like me. That's a trained behavior from nonsense you probably didn't experience. I guess what I'm saying is:

I always see you fighting imperfect moderation. But perfection isn't possible. And you blame people who have been trained, steeped, and taught to fight the people who preach the things you preach. You're playing the line between virtue signaling and earnest progress.

But you're missing a very important fact. This place. Us. You included, now. We're this generations niggers. And you smell like a dogooder who doesn't fully grasp our plight.

Not that there are no shill mods and no fuckery. But do you really believe the solution is different mods or yourself in control? I believe that this culture is built on a belief in basically no moderation. And the actual solution is minimal janitorial moderation. And preaching righteous, unassailable moderation decisions might be missing the point entirely.

Doesn't matter much. Shits progressing beautifully in the world.

VieBleu ago

thanks but I'm not here enough anymore to "be careful". I scan through posts once in awhile and comment very infrequently. Once in awhile interesting tidbits surface here despite the mods. Couldn't resist getting in some history on this thread for future readers who are studying what went wrong here.

No group with a serious aim should have to put up with the unending volleys of bullshit that are regularly launched around here from the top down - it is like an abusive family unto itself with all the ugly power dynamics and victimization which that brings. MOST FORUMS ARE NOT LIKE THIS ONE. "Don't post your protest info here" is just one line of grafitti on the giant black iceburg of cautionary tales that should be passed along here, not "be careful" or a toxic mod culture might yet again sabotage the effort. What a joke.

This place is absolutely NOT me. And yes a place like this (I wouldn't work on the same continent as some of the bigot mods here so not this place) would most definitely be run much better if I was in charge, or any of a handful of respected commentors including you. Actually anyone with the integrity of a loan shark would be an improvement.

druhill007 ago

hope all is well champ

VieBleu ago

Thanks my friend, you as well.

Silverlining ago

I think you'll find it is @Millenial_Falcon Always happy to help!

birthdaysuit11 ago

M falcon is a fucking idiot. Why is he still a MOD can't we kick him the fuck out?

remedy4reality ago

yeah... 6 months on this sub and he's nothing but a fucking lazy fucking piece of shit..

fuck him.. He guidance has reduced daily veiws by 60% in 90 days... He's a fucker. I hate him.

Altmight ago

Everyone hates him.

Silverlining ago

Not to put too fine a point on it!

remedy4reality ago

look at the numbers, kid.

You have no idea what it feels like to have 25-30 hours of your work DELETED

Walk a MILE, grasshopper.

Silverlining ago

Oops! @Millennial_Falcon

remedy4reality ago

the jury is in @silverlining

He sucks. In SPADES.

Silverlining ago

Just in case you didn't realise, your deleted submissions live, but in the "removed submissions" link in the moderation logs on the RHS column. They also remain in your submission history, I believe. Whether they would show up in the "search" when it is up and running again, that I don't know. I didn't realize you only get ten hits on searchvoat.co

remedy4reality ago

yeah... no shit

why do you mindlessly follow these Mods? You've been here almost as long as I have and you sound like a chump. what gives?

Silverlining ago

Bump for Chump!

FE_Rebekah ago

That dude deleted my first post. Punch to the gut honestly.