is there any possibility that trump is playing 5d chess w/ zionists?

are you still browsing here?

Because you were commenting on the thread - I thought you might be interested.

https://archive.fo/HgaBW https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1491256 [this page]

agreed.

This is so much information thank you! Will definitely look into this.

My pleasure.

Thanks and yes i agree. This is getting down to the real crux of things. Dark people tune into and become controlled by these dark archetype AI thoughtforms. And yes I fully believe we have various anti-virus thought forms available, and im looking more into all that currently. As explained so well by Max Spiers just before he died, The dark side use frequencies transmitted through media (modern digital freeview) of an unhealthy nature that cause humanity to be more separate and disconnected.. Im just learning about the power of 432hz and what that frequency can do. Also in the emerald tablets Thoth the atlantean also talks of certain frequencies and pure notes that can break the spells of the dark side. We collectively are under a spell.. and that spell is recast virtually every day via various means to hold us in energetic control grid... the grid has/is collapsing, losing its hold :)

And here is the ultimate 💈 barber pole pill 💊: https://youtu.be/gcD1h9DYitg

Check out THIS Egypt! https://youtu.be/YPVHHwzR5gk

Awesome watch list. I'll be on Wi-Fi soon and can start. I like you 'Lies'. Is there anything included about 'The Epic of Gilgamesh'? I believe it predates Egypt.

We will likely find that as part of nature there are also predators after humans -- Think about the Twilight Zone program -- think it was called "To Serve Humankind" -- Punchline: It was a cookbook!

I never understood why my uncle was so paranoid. My mother's and his mother had an Illuminati name. Their cousin who shared that name worked for the government and there were two versions of how he died. My yncle found that there was a dossier on him. But that's standard when you own communications companies and he owned three radio stations. He became more religious after retiring. I gave him a large print beautiful Bible with his name in gold. My aunt said he carried it to church every Sunday. It is hard for me now to wrap my mind around hiim being ashriner and 33rd degree mason worshipping the devil. He was no angel. He was lustful and gluttonous and profane and I'm happy to say he overcame his racism streak. He dabbled in politics but didn't advance. The other shriner and masons who were friends of my fathers were devils. Bad. My dads best friend was murdered. My uncle lived several states away. I dont know what else to say. My fathers masonic family was dangerous. Some were rosicrucians. They said they were Quakers. My grandfather and great grandfather were healers. But I suspect they were witches. They did water divination and used tarot cards. I dont know much about them. My fathers brother and now his son joined the L Ron Hubbard cult and my cousin is now renowned in entertainment. But estranged from me. Which is fine.

Are you making fun?

I feel like it is also worth mentioning that Noah's Ark was real. You can see it on youtube, they found it on Mt Arafat in Turkey and it was fossilised. So saying that this ancient lineage of rulers and people in power created Christianity is probably not true. I've been doing a little reading, and I dont want to sound crazy and I probably will, but Noah might have been a Martian. Like from Mars. Bill Nye seems to think we are descended from martians.. Maybe there is something to it? I also read that thats where the Rh- blood type comes from. Noah.

"No one has been able to explain where people with the Rh negative blood type people came from. Most, familiar with blood factors, admit that these people must be the result of a random mutation, if not descendants of a different ancestor. What cause the mutation? Who was this unknown ancestor? There is some evidence that suggests the RH-negative blood group may have appeared about 35,000 years ago."

Good work. Commenting to come back

Awesome!! Thanks!

Just remember mason = asmon = "lamb"

At 7:02 of the Tianjin Disaster video -- what the fuck is that quicksilver shit? Catches fire with water?

At 30:34 of 'Revelation of the Pyramid' the trivium is shown. Nice.

Thanks for posting a link to this. I got here from Seamonster's (Seaman) 'public hanging' post. Advertise more. Normies need help.

He Will Nut Inside Us

I think I have an inkling of what this could be getting at. If my quantum mechanics courses taught me anything, it's that physics has taken many leaps of faith to get to where it is today. I think I understand what this theory may be. It's so simple, yet so well hidden. I will read the book.

Oy..... How many of you doing practical work on pizzagate - you know, with real people that can be investigated and arrested - just wasted a heck of alot of your time and energy on a new rabbit trail???? How much time did it take away that you would have been spending on investigating pizzagate? As interesting as it is, I'm not sure how helpful it is right now. In fact, given the wasted time it has caused, i can't help but wonder if it's not a shill. Have you noticed that the mods are VERY lax the past week or so? Where'd all the shills go? They're using anther tactic - diversion. (This, antarctica... can't wait to see what's next)

I'll take a look at what you posted.

Do you think that Pope Francis' comments on "fake news" have anything to do with Pizzagate?

You have a right to be a Catholic, and I will defend that right until I die. Just because I am skeptical, doesn't mean you can argue without citing facts/figures/history. I need some evidence.

Good posting.

I am going to let you rediscover history on your own. You never watched any of the videos I posted. You are arguing with me, when you don't understand what I am even proposing.

Be careful, son of a widowed mother.

This is the most ridiculous post re: the Vatican I have ever seen on VOAT, this isn't even good schilling

Watch the videos.

You're retarded if you think the Catholic church is not implicated in any of this. I was raised a Catholic, however, this post has relatively little to do with Catholicism. Do you not remember the whole ongoing molestation scandals?

We aren't being told something which is fundamental to our past. How did the Egyptians figure out the speed of light? It wasn't aliens.

You answered your own question, but you are denying it. Yes, it absolutely had to do with aliens. Look up Zecharia Sitchin's works, the Annunaki (the Giants) and how they enslaved and sculpted mankind to their liking. It was not mankind that started to make buildings in alignment with the equinoxes and the solstices and New Years and so forth, these ideas were borrowed from these giants who were absolutely obsessed about such things. The shills at Wikipedia have denounced Sitchin through questionable means, which should tell you the establishment (you know who) doesn't want you to pay any attention to Sitchin. That means there is truth to be learned.

Be careful though, because aliens on this planet is a whole other rabbit hole that goes well beyond pizzagate. However, I will say that child sacrifice stems all the way back to those days in Sumer (and even beyond) where children were offered to the "gods" as sacrifice in exchange for some king to receive prolonged life or other blessings of the gods. These entities were all demonic and negative in orientation. And this is only a brief overview.

Do you believe the pedo code language using pizza is because a slice of pizza is triangular. Hope this doesn't sound obtuse. Just dawned on me. http://imgur.com/INNHdwf

I've been following this trail for a long time, from what I can make out however the people behind this philosophy whereby they enslave their fellow man, and practice such despicable ceremonies is a corruption of what may have been a scientific/religious philosophy practiced by an advanced civilization that predates the Egyptians and was destroyed in what Graham Hancock says was a meteorite or Comet impact which occurred around 10,000 BC. It would appear that the Egyptian priesthood subverted the religious beliefs in order to keep control of a growing population. What these people are practicing is not the true religion but a corrupted version used to gain and keep power.

Hi! So glad to hear from you. I am going to read out loud to a friend your descriptions of dissociation later. talk tomorrow then, just wanted you to know that I reposted your testimony on another thread here at voat about occult practices. The thread was already going to be removed by mods but those deleted threads still are on the site and I think it is important for more eyes to be able to find and take in what you have to say. I assume since you posted publicly that is ok. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1593161 BUT if you aren't comfortable with that I can remove them, just let me know. I don't plan on doing that a lot, just had the idea when I read that post. I hope you have a peaceful night. 😊 cheers. 😊

yes, please take care.

I sit and take in what you write for periods of time. Then I write what quesitons I have. I want to assure you I am not being flippant, even if I ask about a detail. I am just writing down what questions rise up after I have absorbed what you say which is of course shocking but has to be integrated if we are to unmask and understand what is going on. Did you ever have an idea that there was a political side to the abusers - city, state, local churchpeople even? When you talk about people eating hearts, do they like wolf it down like an animal, or just eat a portion but really dont have a huge taste for it, or do they relish it? Do they eat the whole thing? don't people get physically sick from ingesting raw flesh and blood?
Did you need to go to a doctor often? hospital?
Did any adult ever suspect something was going on with you that wasn't in on it? I know that your alters were created to cover up. Just wondering about doctors, nurses, teachers.
How often could they stage one of the full rituals in the woods - 4 times a year?
Did any of these people think they actually benefited from sacrifices and all this effort? Like suddenly have a lot of money or something? In the end, why were you allowed to survive? Are the adults doing this stuff also fractured into alters that maybe close off what they are doing to their own minds?
Did any of them go insane? Did they pay their bills on time? I know it sounds trivial but you think, how could anybody function doing this stuff regularly? Who made the robes? Did they go to the fabric store and shop for robe fabric? lol I'm serious I am not being trite, it is just hard to understand how this whole lifestyle can be maintained and hidden 24/7 Do you think that what has been uncovered in the Instagrams and Podesta emails and at CPP relates to POSSIBLE actual abuse going on somehow in DC? OK I'll stop just pick and choose.

WOW>

I am absolutely mesmerized. What you have done is very lucidly take me to altered states and visuals through description. I really am able to sense and kind of feel the way you describe a part of you up front, and part of you behind, lack of being able to speak, all the other things. You write much better than most "associated" people - ha ha if that is what I am. The angels are incredible. Everything just gives me more questions - do you think you saw the shape of the angels and their aethetic because of art you had seen, or because it is something "innate" to a class of etheric being called angels, or because you made them that way, like an original artist? More pondering that, no need to come up with a specific answer, but this is just a small part of where your narrative takes me.

I am thinking that perhaps human cruelty has been so pervasive since antiquity, maybe a WHOLE lot more people have actually had dissociative cognition because of trauma than we realize? And they were artists, writers, musicians, and many other things. I will say that William Blake's works came to my mind when you described the angels. But not to get stuck on them, I read the link and am unfamiliar with that level of analysis of how this works. You'd think that a whole lot of therapists would be "in the know" that there are a lot of trauma victims out there, but then they get discredited very fast in the media and attacked professionally don't they? yes, they do.
Is one part of you covering for your father? Surely he must have known something was going on with you... Why would he have been killed, maybe he would have fought?

I think you have a book in this. Make sure you save your posts! Keep it up, your ability to communicate the reality of what happened to you is a gift. But don't tax yourself either. Another thing you might consider is talking into a recorder then transcribing what you say, so the physical act of writing doesn't seem so slow and daunting. And thank you, I look forward to whatever you next share.

That is so great. I am so glad I asked in an appropriate and sensitive way and look forward to reading anything you want to share. Please private message me if you like unless you would like it to be on the public forum for others to read - your call completely. best wishes.

Thank you for posting legitimate information that more people need to be aware of. If more people were aware of things like this - we could finally focus on the whole picture (and hopefully stop wasting time and effort on nonsensical wild goose chases about insignificant crap related to Comet Ping Pong / etc.)

I had wanted to make a post including many of the things you brought up, but hadn't gotten around to doing it - so I'm glad you did. :)

Sooner or later I'll get around to making a post related to a lot of this, as well as some other points that weren't brought up in this post.

I really hope people read this post. This is all very important for people to realize, and this is nicely written and well formatted for people to use as a starting point until they go on their own and research things more in depth. Knowing things like this is the next step - PizzaGate just scratches the surface of everything that "they" don't want us to know about.

Hi - first thanks for opening up here. I hope that maybe seeing how many people are upset and disturbed about it all is some very small helpful thing to see for survivors like yourself.

I am curious about things because I want to understand better - do you think you would be interested in answering questions I have about how this happens? For example, I would ask what actually does it feel like to dissociate - do you "snap" out of your body? float above the scene? or is it more like blacking out and waking up later not knowing what happened? or something entirely different? I would ask things like do they actually wear robes, are their ceremonies very structured, like facing different directions, calling on entities and saying very proscribed things, maybe from a book, or do they just make it up as they go? or are they crazy chaotic things, and are they loud or quiet about it, do they chant? use modern music?

I just have so many questions. There is so much that is glossed over and I don't trust that for example Stanley Kubrik isn't just being cinematic when he deptics things - that's a movie not real testimony. You can hit my name and private message me by hitting a button on my account page so it doesn't have to be here - or answer here if you felt like it. It is of course your call and you may not want to discuss it, so think about it, up to you.

I sincerely wish you healing and enlightenment on this very difficult life journey you are on, I know in my heart you will find real peace and comfort one day.

Hi - Glad you posted the link here on another thread. You are a good clear writer. The first video looks good, going to watch it now - remember how there was an Egyptian style sarcaphagi at Whitney Houston's funeral? I thought it was strange. you can google Whitney Houston memorial, egyptian and see pics of it.

I am going to stop responding to you because if you are an agency you would continue with non-nonsensical bullshit to try to get my IP with lantern. gl hf. I am typing this on a potato in a marsh in Patagonia for all you know. My tor/VPN layering is over 9000. Gtfo

gas?

HOLY FUCK

I wonder if Scott Onstott could find us a better 3d model of DC than just google earth, isn't he a CAD expert?

I see. Hang in there. I cannot imagine what it must be/have been like for you, and it would be incorrect for me to think that I could. These guys are going down. All of it. It's all going down. I know that this is a hollow consolation for the worst things that human's can do to each other, but I hope that you, nonetheless, find joy in the burning that's to come. Life is a fucking roller coaster. You aren't crazy either. Nobody is crazy. We are all just living projections of our past, thrown through the filter of our hearts. My friend is a psychiatrist of 40 years. He has seen everything in the book. One thing he told me, nobody is the same. We need you. We need people to know, let alone communicate, reality. I hope you liked the videos on my post.

Thanks dude. It means a fucking lot.

Thanks OP. I've privately archived this. I'll red pill all I can

:) cool shit man. Thanks for all the rabbit holes.

SO. yk what I gotta ask you. How old do you think humanity is? (agriculture)

I trust you and we will be talking. I am going to look into all of these links. Give me some time, and message me if I forget to message you back. I am starting a busy couple of months teaching at Univ, but this is up there on my priority list.

I think there is hope. I think that there is reason in all this nonsense.

Good stuff, falls in line with much of my own research into Saturn and related Molech worship stuff.. Some good clues here also into the nature of these "people".. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1543202

Were talking about generational psychopaths, and as I have discussed in other threads reincarnational psychopaths.. what i mean is the same nasty beings keep popping up in history lifetime after lifetime playing the same control agendas and games.. I could post many proofs of this but well you can google it.. Akhenaten and Obama is just one example. Same with the "good guys".. David Wilcock and Edgar Cayce as one example.. same being in both lives. So do I believe in reincarnation, yes.. because the evidence points to it.. and it is part of this whole story.. Because were not just talking about bloodlines and passing down of psychopathy through the generations, but were talking about the same beings doing the same sick shit again and again. And once you realise that then some things make more sense. I feel Cathy OBriens book Tranceformation of America holds many clues and insights into these people and what they believe about themselves. They do think they are superior, of a pre-adamite race of humans. I don't believe they invented creationism, and no i'm not religiousmyselff. I just follow the evidence. I believe the freemasons pushed and created evolutionism, and the big bang and all that became modern theories of the creation of the universe and the whole primordial soup story and all that. When you examine the science, you may discover as I did that the evidence for the big bang, evolution (species evolving to another species) is not based on any sound scientific evidence whatsoever! This is important to understand. Because the freemasons pushed this whole idea that we are an insignificant blip in a vast universe. That we were created my random mutations and survival of the fittest (which has some truths to it in limited terms, like species adaptation).. So I would not call creationism a conspiracy at all.. In fact these freemasons are satanic, which doesn't mean they are necessarily anti-creationism.. but they despise whatever god is. I could say more here about the nature of space and so on.. but I will lose all credibility if I start on that topic, because even the most open minded here have such a huge cognitive dissonance when it comes to what the earth is and where we are and what this reality really is.. There are far more crazy considerations than what has even been touched on in this thread. The_lies_oh_the_lies ... we have so much to talk about and understand and comprehend going forward with this. Because yes it all goes back a long way.. and yes it spans lifetimes and so do the agendas.. and whether or not we believe in fantastical beings like Satan for example these elites most certainly do! And some very sane and pretty believable people have even come out and said they have met this being in person, and made deals with it, and that it (whatever it is) has a hold on this planet. Yes I said i'm not religious. But i've come to the conclusion that for want of a better word "demons" do exist, at least in the form of a "thought form".. what i mean is that our thoughts have power and a frequency.. Russians discovered the frequencies first and started to play with them back in the 1970s.. these days the tech is much more refined in the usa and elsewhere.. We create in the thought frequencies and they are like radio stations that the human mind picks up. A "thought form" can have its own type of rudimentary intelligence.. Any character or being or even famous person that millions of people think about will have a corresponding thought form of them in that frequency range.. the more people focus on a being then the more thought power that being possesses. Thoughts can influence the outcome of experiments. (the Hollographic Universe a good book for research into this).. This has been scientifically validated time and time again. This is real phenomena folks, and we need to understand this also if we are to get a handle on what these elites are up to, because they know all this and they have used this sacred knowledge to their advantage for hundreds or even thousands of years. See where im going here? Thought forms have their own kind of survival instinct, because they were created by us.. so they have our weaknesses and fears built into them.. might be a clue to some things. When enough of us stop believing the lies of history and the controllers bullshit, then they start tolosee actual power over us.. actual mind power, thought power. As long as we believe in a system.. modern democracy and the political personalities and accept them as our leaders then they have power over us. But their control is tenuous, more so now than ever. Becausee people are turning away from their bullshit, notbelievingg their lies anymore. We don'tt need them to govern us, and were waking up to the fact that governance is slavery.

Awesomesauce! This will keep me busy for a while

I like where you are coming from with this. Should be fun

Ok so I get that there are groups of people in positions of power, who are in positions of power due to the power of their ancestors, going back 1000s of years. And that they have their own traditions and religion and symbols and numbers and rituals, all sick depraved stuff. And they commit terrible crimes and view themselves as infinitely superior to the rest of the human race. But why do they have to be extra dimensional reptilian soul-parasites? It's not as thought this reptilian theory explains something that can't be explained any other way, and there isn't any proof of it at all, other than some videos where peoples' eyes look a bit funny. You take thousands of hours of footage of any person and you'll be able to find some weird anomaly/glitch/reflection etc that you could use to support an 'everyone's a reptile' theory.

All the stuff with the numbers and units of measurement and golden ratio etc makes sense without the existence of any paranormal lizard king, or without the existence of anything 'paranormal' at all.

Ohhhhhhhhhh. I thought you meant that the rapist pedocrats who own us were trying to tell us the message about the pyramids. Yeah I also definitely believe there was a key. Napoleon scrubbed a bunch of the walls when he went down to Egypt. Something is up.

It's crazy stuff. Stay in touch.

They aren't the same people (fucking =/= building per say). Here is my understanding of the powet structure: 1) guys at the very tippy top who rule the world 2) bankers like Rothschilds, whose names we know 3) CIA heads and intelligence officers (trade drugs and people 4) high level politicians

My understanding is that the child sacrifice/rape is both a hobby (sick addiction) and a means of control for politicians. The intelligence officers and politicians have a pact whereby the trafticking of people is covered up. Everyone is fucked over if they slip up or try to break out of the circle because, as we have seen in recent weeks, the media is personally and unilaterally owned by the layer above the politicians. The above layer can fuck over particular politicians and public figureheads (pick and choose).

So to summarize, it is a hobby of the very top tier, as it comes from long ago. It is also used as a means of solidification of power between the upper tiers and the layers below them. Look at who we are being allowed to have proof against. John Podesta. Why John Podesta? We know they all do it. We know the FBI has Hillary's emails. Because he was supposed to get Hillary elected, and he fucked up.

Take a look around

No. They have markedly kept it secret. And eating babies doesn't make them the good guys, imho.

The people who rule us are part of the cult/group that built (or knew how they were) the pyramids. Beyond that I am left at speculation. I don't want to feed you speculation.

We are not in the age of Pisces any longer. That 2000 year stint is over. It is the Age of Aquarius and the water bearer is flooding our planet with truths. Look at all that's coming to light exponentially compared to decades before. Don't despair oh the lies. Geez everyone, please don't give me grief for not providing links. Haven't been here long and have not been to finalize something I was looking into in the donor list, but your desparation compelled me

Wow. up voat +1,000,000 times.... this is gold and should be pinned at the top of #pizzagate.... Can we get a mod to add this to that huge list of Pizzagate topics? This is literally the holy grail of understanding the WAY THEY THINK... IF we understand the way they think we can better implicate them and even predict what, when, where, and how they are going to target who they're going to target. This is extremely helpful...>>> Very EXCELLENT post!

Please don't delete the thread as I need time to go over the links. Also, I would let go of trying to get it stickied. Know that there are only a certain percentage of people who can synthesize the bigger picture. Most people on this sub don't have the attention span, but the ones who do will notice. Trust in that.

Someone mentioned Archons and it sounded like that was a new idea to you, so thought I would share a link on John Lash, who I know for a fact takes credit for the concept being distilled enough to communicate. http://www.metahistory.org/

Great work. I will respond after reading/watching. Good work

You should dig a little into an old philosophical idea about consciousness. Panpsychism. This is the thesis that consciousness is something all-permeating on a sub-atomic level. Combine this with what the Gnostics wrote about Archons and you'll get a better understanding of what the alien conspiracy theorists are all about.

As to whether aliens exist or not the answer is yes but not the way they are portrayed by the media. Just do research on Lucis trust and you will get the real answer as to who these beings are, - according to the elites. But the truth cannot be understood unless you believe in a spiritual creation that seeks to influence to humanity. That's where many westerners fall short.

A lot of the alien sex stuff might be screen memories for SRA.

Hey man I agree about being a little off topic but, straight up love some of the knowledge you're dropping on here. Thanks.

All these things are starting to converge. You are not crazy

All of this very well may be partly or wholly accurate. It's good for background and insights into the psychology of the criminals involved. Unfortunately, beyond that, it doesn't really help with the task at hand, which is coming up with links between the various actors.

Sorry you're so frustrated, perhaps you'll have more luck in a different venue.

@Crensch Do you mind reading this submission through for yourself and watching all of the videos or having a mod read it. When you realize that it is legit maybe we can sticky it?

Ok I believe you Have an upvote It goes way back, we get it Now post something relevant to the current events being investigated

Whether or not all of this is accurate - I really don't know what you're expecting this particular investigation to gain from it. It's a nice history lesson, but we are here trying to find the actual details and evidence that is going to bring about some action. We already know what's going on, we are dedicating our time to proving it with real evidence.

I understand the concern for people being hesitant to believe in any of this stuff in the first place, but I think that this is more believable in many ways. You can start by showing people that we are being completely lied to regarding key facts about ancient history. There is a much smaller barrier to entry, especially with those who don't even study science or history anyways. They can then be slowly shown that our leaders haven't changed since back then.

Anyways, I appreciate the constructive criticism.

There's a truckload of information about esoteric topics out there, how specifically is your information meaningful in the context of PizzaGate?

Many of them are just too worried about a pizza parlor. They should also read Revelations (see BIBLE), and ALL scientific info regarding Planet X or Nibiru (too many to link). And Anarctica (see map and ALL stories) and underground bunkers. CHILD ABUSE, sex, sin, elite- everything you say and this is ALL related. Just remember WE are the low man on the totem pole. They don't care and don't think they can be defeated. As in underground cities and bunkers. Forest for the trees gang....@THE_LIES_OH_THE_LIES

You don't sound like a shill to me. You just seem to be sort off-target for the subverse, maybe? You're here trying to persuade everyone to believe your theory of how things developed from thousands of years ago, got people in other threads trying to Bible thump me. This isn't /r/conspiracy man. I know you feel very strongly that you are right and everyone who thinks otherwise is just "retarded" (I'm sure that's not getting you any hostility that you then pretend is unprovoked bullying /s). Come on, let's all just chill with it and see what we can find digging. You have your own method of digging/analyzing. Cool, use it, let us know if you find something.