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Millennial_Falcon ago

@DuffBeer4Me

So your evidence against @reasonedandinformed is simply that an account commented complaining about a supportive comment being downvoted, which had not actually been downvoted? I can think of a couple other explanations for that. One, it could be a frame-up to create drama and distraction. Two, and more likely, it is definitely plausible the account complaining about downvoting was talking about other threads on the topic being downvoted. I just don't see any evidence here worthy of the accusation. Feel free to go through the user's history and try to find evidence, but for now, I'm flairing this "Accuracy in question."

Edit: Looked at @Evidenceforthings' account. Looks pretty human to me.

Edit 2: OK, it's been 3 hours and I still haven't received adequate evidence of bots or of reasonedandinformed's alleged shilling. As this could be a CTR tactic to create discord and distraction, I'm changing flair from "accuracy in question" to "debunked" until such times as real evidence is provided. @kingkongwaswrong

DuffBeer4Me ago

No, that is not the only thing. See my third point in OP.

reasonedandinformed magically produced proof (screencap) of legionwill framing kingkongwashere at the exact same time I called legionwill out with a pile of proof. It was a controlled effort to sacrifice legionwill to protect the ctr bot operation.

reasonedandinformed current posts look identical to what legionwill was posting. Massive upvoats. No real substance. Duplicated topics. Bot accounts replying. Huge upvotes and comment activity.

Millennial_Falcon ago

reasonedandinformed magically produced proof (screencap) of legionwill framing kingkongwashere

Isn't it possible another user was suspicious of LegionWill besides you? I had been suspicious of him myself.

reasonedandinformed current posts look identical to what legionwill was posting.

Looked for myself. Doesn't seem that way. Can you explain an example of what you mean?

DuffBeer4Me ago

You wouldn't happen to be the mod who flaired this post "Breakthrough"?

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1456741

I was watching this post and the slide post rising together. I know there is a compromised mod helping the bots bury the original post.

And you are replying to me like you have not even read what I posted. Like it is completely normal to say "oh why was that downvoted" in relation to a post on a totally different forum! What absolute bullshit!

Meanwhile bot posts on this very thread have been tampered with and fixed to look somewhat normal.

Coverup much.

Millennial_Falcon ago

I don't know if you're a shill or just trigger-happy, but you have provided no real evidence of shilling by the user you're accusing. You are attacking a user who makes a lot of submissions, yet you can't even point to a single submission as evidence of shilling? This makes me question why you're attacking this user.

@kingkongwaswrong

DuffBeer4Me ago

Simple test for @kingkongwaswrong

Lock out other mods, or just revoke permissions temporarily so they can't interfere. Don't tell mods when test will be run so they can't turn the bots off. Write some test posts. This will find the existence of hundreds of bots here. Refer to this post and the tests this guy has run. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478927 The guy from this post can probably help.

Millennial_Falcon ago

Now you thinks MODS are running bots? What the hell are you basing this on?

DuffBeer4Me ago

I'm not saying mods are running bots.

I am saying this forum is infested with bots. An isolation test needs to be done. This means isolating mod influence and having a blind test at unannounced time, to be sure that a mod is not interfering.

There has already been interference with cleaning up of bot posts on this very thread, suggesting a compromised mod *edit.. or bot manager fixing bots gone crazy.

@SaneGoatiSwear found a bot without much searching, had a bizzare bot conversation here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478749/7173350

Read my original post. For anyone with half a brain there is enough proof there to warrant looking into it. @kingkongwaswrong

kingkongwaswrong ago

Not sure what you want me to do? We have very limited 'technical' functions available to us. Prettty much just deleting and flairing actually - we can't edit existing posts or comments or anything.

Not sure what you;re thinking for your blind test?

DuffBeer4Me ago

Test is to look for strangeness like this; http://sli.mg/StBfBG

This was one of the first replies on this thread before whoever is operating the bots came and fixed them. Here is a link to the post now; https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478569/7172373

Method:

  1. Make some accounts for testing.
  2. Post new topic. SaneGoatiSwear can probably suggest some good tests and keywords, he seems to know how bots work.
  3. Reply to the new topic with the test accounts, get some activity on the thread to attract bots.
  4. Reply also to some of the more rubbish posts on 'new' and see what happens
  5. Wait for bots to arrive.
  6. Try to have a conversation with the bots.

Problem is you can't let the bot operators know when the test is happening or the details of the test, they will just clean it up. See my screenshot and post linked above for what I mean by cleanup. Maybe it's best you do the test on your own at a random time.

Millennial_Falcon ago

SaneGoatiSwear found a bot without much searching, had a bizzare bot conversation here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478749/7173350

I had a discussion with same user (Iamyouandyouareme) today. I think he's just a little autism-y, maybe.

There has already been interference with cleaning up of bot posts on this very thread, suggesting a compromised mod.

What interference? Are you accusing me again? You realize none of us asked to be mods, right?

SaneGoatiSwear ago

just a little autism-y, maybe

try some of the ways to confuse a bot on it. have fun!

hm? are you talking to me? no you're talking to duff ok.

DuffBeer4Me ago

Tell me this guy has autism too... One of the first posts on this thread which has nothing to do with the OP.

http://sli.mg/v4A8BJ

Millennial_Falcon ago

(1) Why did you crop out all context? Why not just post link to the comment in context?

(2) Definitely an oddly formatted comment, almost as if it was intentionally made by a sockpuppet as fake evidence for bots.

DuffBeer4Me ago

Here is the link to the comment - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1478569/7172373

It has since been edited. And had the fuck downvoted out of it so no one sees it.

Here is another screenshot, the file name reflects the time of capture in GMT. http://sli.mg/StBfBG

I crop screencaps out of habit for OpSec reasons.

reasonedandinformed ago

He needs time to work on it since the user histories debuk his crap.

reasonedandinformed ago

He cannot because he is relying on people not actually looking at things. This guy is either CTR or incredibly stupid.

DuffBeer4Me ago

I will write something later, gotta go now and it will probably take me half an hour to write it all up.