Don't even try to indoctrinate me or attempt to 'normalize' the crime of pedophilia. I don't care. Leave our children alone, you sick criminals. Don't even THINK about them in your sick minds.
So how many people who sexually lust after our children are 'just thinkin' but not acting on it"? YOU are apologizing for pedophiles. YOU are trying to influence people to feel sorry for the 'poor, emotionally troubled and sadly misunderstood molesters of our innocent children. Yet, you don't mention the anguish that millions of children are going thru because of these freaks. YOU are part of the problem.
Good point. These bad things always seem to start in California then spread from state to state....No wonder there are so many natural disasters there.
You are all, in my opinion, dumb as shit, but I can just ignore your comments like you can ignore this one. I don't agree but I don't care what most people who agree with me think either and I can ignore it at will.
I don't think sexuality is genetic. It doesn't make sense that a guy can be born attracted to children when it is clear that child molestation is a form of moral corruption.
This is being pushed because convicted pedophiles will be able to escape prison, citing mental illness. It is very important that we challenge the idea that "pedophilia is not a crime" wherever we see it. No, thoughts are not crimes, but the abuse of children is pure evil, and justifying it in any way is hateful. If this topic is ever brought up in your presence, hammer it home: "Pedos say it's a mental illness so they can avoid prison for their crimes."
This isn't like addiction. Someone is directly harmed abused and mentally scarred by Pedophilia. No one but the subject is harmed when you drink a beer or smoke a joint. Trying to equate pedophilia to victim-less crime is just gross. EVEN IF THEY HAVE ZERO CONTROL OVER IT. Just like a healthy organism must destroy bacteria and viruses that are chemically deterministic, society must have antibodies about victimed crime, even if you hold the belief that we have no free will and everything is a result of neuro-chemistry.
aren't these the same people who said that pizzagate is a hoax harassment campaign against those poor innocent victims listed as the most powerful people in DC?
A news post from 2014 is still very "right now"! Widen your search circle - what's happening now has been developing for many many years - all info posted like this helps truth researchers to build the bigger picture and the bigger agenda behind it....
But you can not say committing the act is not a crime, you can't.
Thats when they become a sexual predator / molester, on top of being a pedophile. Its an important distinction to make because while we can get rid of people breaking the law for violating the rights of others, we simply can't get rid of the entire group of people who could be labeled 'pedophile'. The mindset is similar in nature to those who imagine running people over, shooting their boss, robbing a bank, etc - not illegal to think it, illegal to do it. I know this seems nuanced but it really is important to make this separation because we can't get carried away in our pursuit for justice. And its also important to realize that just because someone thinks it or desires it, does not mean they will act on it.
I wouldn't trust the Jew York Times if they said the sky was blue. Their obvious political agenda bleeds through every piece of their writing and it's disgusting.
IIRC, treatment makes it somewhat less likely that a pedophile will act on their desires, but changing what someone is attracted to is not currently thought possible.
The problem, in the US anyway, is that laws in many states discourage pedophiles from seeking help, often resulting in many of the same punishments as an actual conviction. It makes it understandable then, even if undesirable, that not all pedophiles seek treatment.
Exactly my point. The case of Ethan Couch showed exactly how much a person with money can get away with, as long as they say "i'm sorry, i didn't know i couldn't do that"
And thus creating 'Allfuenza' - the rich man's disease. Such a joke. Cheers for the case study, had no idea who he was! Reminds me of the Standford rape case
The big difference between this and gay marriage is that gay marriage is between consenting adults, whereas acting upon pedo stuff results in diddling kids.
I agree. There is also a big dip in hormones as they age that takes away the urge. The men I deal with are all 50 or older and still have the fantasy in their heads but may not have the urge to act. Kinda like the idea of it is better than the actual act for them. With the registry enacted in the late 90's, sex offenders are watched for life on parole. Before that, if someone raped a kid and was out of jail by 1997, they never appeared on the registry and are unknown to their neighbors as sex offenders. That is the scary thing.
The sex offender registry and current sex offender laws only apply to people convicted and released from jail after September 1, 1997. Prior to this, an offender would be released from jail with a limited parole, average being 5-10 years with very little follow up. Just a metting with your PO once a week and maybe a few random house checks. That is it. These are the folks I am speaking off. The old timer sex offenders who got unlucky and busted once though they offended god knows how many times. Because they have managed to not get caught again, they are considered in the "treatment works" section.
Now the released offender is watche like a hawk and most likely on life time parole. If you were convicted and released prior to the above date, there is no way of knowing that information unless they were registered on a state or county level. Many of these state and county registries were not included in the federal data base if the parole board did not keep electronic records.
The current system is much different and I deal with sex offender from long ago that are not on parole or even being watched.
I wouldn't dwell on that... I'm sure lots of secretly pedophile people never did anything. They shouldn't be afraid to come forward so we can perform brain surgery to remove all sexual behaviors and give them an ankle monitor.
Guys you have to check out this link. I submitted this link on reddit. Its pretty fucked up. Kubrick had a way of telling us about what was happening and who was behind it all, in Eyes Wide Shut. I submit that pizzagate is part of the story that Kubrick was telling us and why he was killed.
"Pedophilia is a disorder, not a crime".
They make a distinction which is really a confusion. In a sense, it is trivial that "pedophilia" is not a crime: the condition of someone being sexually attracted to children is not criminous per se; it becomes a crime when one brings fruition to these disadjusted tendencies. When people say pedophilia is a crime they are talking about such ACTIONS, not about the underlying disorder existing in the agentes of those actions. Everyone knows that (though maybe not consciously). So, why obliterate this fact and completely confuse these two nuances/uses of the concept/word "pedophilia" (the tendency and the fruition of this tendency)? I wouldn't be surprised if their intent is to create semantic and mental confusion as a part of a slow process of conditioning the masses for the moral acceptance of ACTIONS of pedophilic behaviour -- not as acts of criminals, but as irremediable behaviour of sick people (and then of "people who are born this way and must be accepted").
It is not criminal or immoral to be sexually attracted to children. It is important to distinguish thoughts and feelings from actions. Only actions should be criminalized.
it 100% IS immoral! Thinking unclean thoughts is a sin. Making it socially acceptable for a person to "think" those thoughts, or "fantasize" in his/her mind is the work of the devil. It's now being viewed as a sexual "orientation" in the UK..
Well, let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I agree with you that indulging in certain thoughts or fantasies can be self-harmful to a person and cause degeneration in society. I agree with you that we should not promote or normalize pedophilia for those reasons. However, I think it is true that some people do naturally have 'deviant' sexual attractions (whether pedophilia, homosexuality or something else) through no fault of their own, as a result of their biology or childhood experiences. Unless they commit a criminal action we should not persecute these people for their troubles. Instead we should encourage them to resist their thoughts, and we should develop compassionate therapy and treatment for pedophilia. You know that strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life; we must help those that have lost the way.
You're suggesting an entire scientific community is trying to push pedophilia on us. Use Ockham's razor. It's far more likely that there IS a genetic link to pedophilia. That doesn't mean there aren't also environmental factors that could push some to become an actual molester, but apparently the science thus far suggests the attraction is often genetic.
a pity for them that more people are reading about pizzagate than those that read NYT. MSM is dying on its ass, they haven't got nearly as much leverage as they think they do.
im sure ages ago i saw a documentary on channel 4 (uk) stating along similar lines that the attraction to young people/ underage people is a condition that cant be helped. I can see pedophile sexuality being somewhat pushed and introduced to normalize it in society along the same route that homosexuality took.
Matthew 18:6
But if you cause one of these little ones who trusts in me to fall into sin, it would be better for you to have a large millstone tied around your neck and be drowned in the depths of the sea.
Right like there are schizos who are told to eat people's faces and think it's the voice of god but they know they are fucked and resist the order. Murder is the crime, having the voice isn't. We should give them the pedo's jobs in Hollywood instead. We'd probably get some fucking decent movies for a change.
Hey, I am german as well and always thought the NYT was the outstanding US newspaper until this election...
Guess better getting redpilled sooner than later huh?
You've never asked a dog to go for a walk have you.
Going to stop you at the "if untreated, leads to" bs. Because there's no treatment that prevents, cures or resolves, pretty much anything. It's pretty much all just chemical lobotomies. Does that actually help though? Or was that actual goal? The logic is a leap to begin with.
This is the real reason we are hearing so much about pedophilia in the news today. They are trying to get out ahead of the story in order to control the narrative. I'd upvote you but I'm apparently out of those.
Obviously. The pedo forgiveness message started when emails started being hacked and they knew someone would get caught. Podesta, Hillary, Soros, Whoever, doesn't matter.
What's truly sickening is that so many people don't buy it. I tried showing my own brother this information and before I could even show him anything he just says he refuses to believe some Reddit conspiracy. He doesn't even know the sub got shut down. This is what's fucked up though. Bunch of numbnuts will read this article and totally validate it.
This isn't really an apologetic article. It is akin to saying "Rape fantasy is not rape". Paedophilia is sexual attraction to 'sexlessness'. The state before secondary traits manifest.
I am not seeing anything in the article immediately as incorrect, or somehow 'wrong'. It is true that in the US very little effort goes into prevention of things, in part because of the stigmas attached. So, paedophiles tend to either become predators, or wind up in a situation they think will keep them from transgressing (such as becoming a priest), often to bad results.
Paedophilia is a mental illness. It is not an issue until some form of practice-because every sane person agrees that "Thought Crime" is bullshit.
So.. What exactly is the objection? Is this just witch hunting? The article is from a bit over two years ago. It isn't some form of deflection over the pizzagate stuff that is ongoing...
This sounds to me like they are preparing the next generation for kiddie diddlers...a societal change like this one will take longer to have the masses approve...
However, getting the idea out there (today) into softer heads (libs) is the first seed...
As it was in the days of Noah...
its a diversion attempt from reality. this is how obama can literally say the exact opposite and get away with it. same with hillary, this is well documented.
its pseudo journalism, political state run brainwashing on a large term. when they simply can say kid touchers are non issue, they have won.
welcome to voat, you have much to learn. and tagged as such
You beat me to it! Perfect brother/sister! Though when I think of all of this corruption and evil (not /just/ child rape), my mind goes to Matthew 24:37:
37“And as the days of Noaḥ, so also shall the coming of the Son of Aḏam be.
Being an arsonist is not a crime. Committing arson is a crime. Thing is, until you commit arson, you are not an arsonist.
There is no such thing as a non-offending arsonist.
There is no such thing as a non-offending pedophile.
Well, it is well known that male homosexuals are three times more likely to abuse children than heterosexual males. Per capita. Also, remember that the population demographic of homosexuals to heterosexuals is minute in comparison. When this is taken in to account, the sheer amount of abuse perpetrated by homosexuals as opposed to heterosexuals is astounding.
Normalize homosexuality then normalize pedophilia. This is why the "gay rights" advocate groups marched with and were associated with NAMBLA in the 80's.
NAMBLA was part of the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) until ILGA kicked NAMBLA out in order to secure UN funding. Upon that happening, several leading lights in the ILGA, including Harry Hay, one of the founders, resigned in protest, saying that we have no right to impose our views of sexuality on NAMBLA members.
They do no deserve the click money. Stop linking directly please. Take the extra step to help all of us vote with our wallets/clicks. The more clicks they see, the more they think people like reading this shit and the more they will publish.
I agree with that. When i say you cannot treat them, Iean you may be able to get them to atop acting on urges but they will continue to watch children in public and seek out videos and pics of children being raped to get off on. You can get them to stop abusing but they will continue seek out victims for fantasize about and view rape videos. They also continue to groom children to accept the behavior and normalize the thinking that children can be be with adults.
Many cases I have seen and heard of about pedos being "reformed" only include stats on actual crimes of rape. They do not include stats on pedos jacking it to vids and pedos grooming children to act on other children while they watch. To the MSM and sadly many MH professionals, not activly raping a child but watching video or having children molest other children for pleasure is still considered successful treatment.
This is brainwash people. When it benefits them:let's lock up (for the most part, true victimless) criminals like drug users. When it benefits them--pedophiles need help and our support, not jail time. Conflict in logic.
Yes, that is exactly what i learned in school as well. If these people can't control themselves, they need to be permanently separated from the rest of society. These kind of articles worry me. Next, we're going to see our most trusted celebrity come forward and explain how paedophilia is perfectly normal and natural.
Guy who raped me works in schools, in rural areas. Has 3 kids and a wife whose okay with his child-diddling ways. They know the laws are so lax where I'm from that even if I "did something" about it, he would only get a light slap on the wrist. He claims he's "damaged" from what he did as well, when him and his wife messaged me to remind me to shut my mouth. I'm worried about his kids, but just like all the freak enablers want - I am helpless.
If pedophilia is a sexual orientation and it is genetic in nature, then we'll eventually be able to turn it off using technology like CRISPR. What's really interesting about that is that we'll also be able to turn off homosexuality (or for that matter, heterosexuality). That's going to be an interesting conversation this country is going to have if this does end up being the case.
It is not genetic. It is a naturally occuring wiring problem in the brain. The same way that people find feet to be sexy and have a foot fetish. In our brains, the sexual stimulation portion is next to the portion that controls and feels our feet. One simple wire gets crossed in brain development and you get turned on by feet. As far as I know, there is not a genetic connection. Now there could be a genetic connection in the pattern in which a brain is wired throughout family lines but it is not dependant on a gene outright. You would not be able to isolate this because hormones dictate wiring as we grow up. A homosexual is not gay from conception but rather the wiring as we grow causes it. Again, certain wiring patterns may exist with defects in family genetics but I do not believe it can be changed or isolated on a gene level.
And notice they call Epstein's plane "The Lolita Express" as if somehow the young girls were wanting it? It puts the blame on the children and not the adults, like the adults were lured by young nymphos and had no control over their desires. Unbelievable!
As much as pedis condition the victims, they also condition themselves into thinking the girls are seducing them. So yeah, to them they areblittle Lolitas begging for attention.
as a lot of people been saying, the liberals and left is doing everything they can to normalize this monstrous behaviour that should be severely punished.
and of course it's a crime.
Seeing pedophile apologist's commenting and trying to socially condition people in these comments. People who've just joined like 5 hours ago.... These baby raping bastards must not be coddled. How could anyone in their right mind condone ANY of this bullshit? Keep on speaking out, people! Don't let these criminals get away with apologizing for or condoning criminal pedophilia and child rape.
WhatTheActual FUCK NYTimes!? and some one explain why on the left there are so many defenders of this islamic rapists and refugee invaders who attack children and are trying to enter Europe and people who defend these islamics who want to get into the USA? what the actual fuck is up with the socialjusticeperverts?
Raping children is 'not a crime'? Do you have kids? If one of these satanic scum bags took YOUR child and raped them how would YOU feel? Would that be 'problematic' to you? Pedophiles and their apologist's are everywhere. So easy to identify. Sick, criminal bastards.
This is being completely misinterpreted by alarmists. Not that I trust the NYT at all, but this article is not saying child molestation is not a heinous crime. It is based on the modern consensus in the American Psychological Association that pedophilia is innate (people are born with it). That doesn't mean child molestation isn't a crime, and it doesn't in any way justify child molestation, nor does it even mean that all child molestors have innate pedophilia. This is the kind of alarmist disinformation that will get us branded a bunch of lunatics.
The NYT also retwittered their Article about pizzagate today. The interesting thing about the article is that already in the subtitle it denounces the whole issue by mentioning that due to "fake news websites", "Hillary Clinton is abusing children at Comet Ping Pong".
First, to my knowledge nobody ever said that and secondly this image makes anyone reading the article instantly disbelieving it due to this outlandish claim. It is the classic gaslighting we all have come to know over the course of this year.
The article further does not address any of the valid concerns and issues like the codewords, the pedophilia symbols, the bizarre instagram photos, the Podesta "art" or all the connections to high DC players.
It only serves the purpose that people don't even dig deeper into the whole matter by making such a crazy premise which only validates our concerns.
We're beyond disgusted with it. How dare they attempt to normalize pedophilia? We were warned that the 'homosexual agenda' & 'the pedo agenda' were one and the same. Harry Hay, anyone? We will NEVER stay silent when it comes to protecting our children from these criminal freaks. Obama/Biden/Clinton/PlannedParenthood/The UN/ NAMBLA & many more are guilty. StandForFamiliesWorldwide has more info on that. Both written & a mind blowing documentary.
Why can't it be both a disorder and a crime? I'm all for personal freedoms unless they infringe on the rights of others, and I'm pretty sure that we've already established that sexual abuse is bad for kids, right?
Damn that's a smart reply! These people don't care what we think, tho. They have mad $ & power behind them. Evil doesn't consider the thoughts and feelings of others. Evil gives special privileges to the decrepit and robs the masses of their freedoms.
By some estimates, 1 percent of the male population continues, long after puberty, to find themselves attracted to prepubescent children.
> male population
Remember kids, when a woman diddles children, it's OK because they were male and wanted it! Doesn't matter that the kid was five. Also feminism is for equality.
See? That's how it ends. First it starts with fat acceptance. Then everyone should be accepted, even the child rapists have feelings too you monsters!!
It's a heinous crime and must continue to stay a crime but hearing California & others have become quite lax on these laws. Disturbing window into our entire country's future should we stay silent. How dare anyone think it's ok to rape and exploit an innocent child? Seems they & their apologist's are everywhere. One just attacked me on here stating he hated SJW's and that's what people who protect children, are. Guilty, 100% of being a sicko's himself. We ain't having it.
Look at the way that Hollywood rallied around Roman Polanski. The original charges against him was rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. Yet he still had so much support and excuses made for his behaviour by Hollywood.
You're a liar and a pedophile apologist. I'd lay $ that YOU are a pedophile. This isn't some SJ campaign, jackass. These our OUR CHILDREN. All decent people want to protect them. Your profile added to the voat pro-pedo-list, scumbag.
It's funny how often they risk taking children from loving parents and good homes for a bit of weed and give them over to pedos to look after them, innit? It's funny how that all feeds into itself.
Blocked several (or more) pro pedo accounts so far. Suddenly, Voat is over run by Rothchild Zionist scum, who're promoting systematic child abuse, widespread war, hating on Indian's while promoting gas companies, promoting both fracking and GMO industries, etc....ALL rothchild zionist agendas and creations. They insist that pedophilia isn't a crime. You can go to my profile & read thru all of the posts/comments, to see who is apologizing for pedos. I suspect that a few sicko's have multiple accs. Also Voat says it doesn't sensor but I think it certainly buries certain subjects. I wish more people would confront those who shill for these monsters. Thank you for your work to protect our kids from this vile NWO scum. LiberalPenquin wants us to know that "there's a difference between pedophilia & molestation" He is a pedophile apologist and attempting to normalize pedophilia thru propaganda.
What makes me even sadder is that more people don't speak up and denounce these articles and the actions of our rulers. The minds of average people sure have changed from the 1970's on...rapid devolution, it seems...
ANYONE who even thinks of touching a child is a scumbag. There is no difference. You, modern-day-Liberals ARE pro pedophile scumbags that are runing our children, families and world with your sick, depraved criminality. Karma always comes back. Know that. Yours too, will ripen one day. Baby raping scum. You have a lot of nerve to try to propagandize me.
Lol. They "live in terror" cuz they want to fuck kids. How fucking bizarre. No one seems to give a shit about the lives they ruin when they do get that long awaited opportunity.
I feel just pedophilia as a whole. I don't mean to be the thought police but all pedophiles will visualize having sex with a child or just pedo behavior itself and that is disgusting and horrible. I know it's not a crime (yet) to think of things but thoughts lead to actions which is why lots of them will view cp and some will do it.
I mean... no shit. Who even disagrees with that argument? It just seems way too fucking coincidental to come out with this shit RIGHT as all this is breaking. This has been common knowledge for decades. Who thinks someone should be locked up for thoughts??
Well, killing another person isn't a crime unless you actually perform the act. Robbery isn't a crime until you actually take something. Their logic is terrible.
Edit: I suppose the logic itself is sound, but the argument is meaningless, since any law broken follows the same logic, there's no reason to act like this one particular case (pedophilia) is special.
Anything but - and to be frank I'm not sure how you got that message from my earlier comment. I also tried to clarify what I meant a little.
That is an interesting line of thinking though. At what point does the idea become the action - we can't legally arrest someone for writing a story where they make themselves into a serial killer or master burglar, as long as they keep such stories and ideas to themselves. If someone wrote a story where they were sexually abusing underage kids, would it be justified to arrest them or punish them somehow even if they never acted upon it? Where does the line get drawn? I certainly don't have the answer to that question.
How many of these sicko's are actually abstaining from harming our children? Nil to none. It's just spin on their ugly path to normalize pedophilia. Harry Hay himself proves that homo/pedo agendas are the same damned thing. Buncha' criminal sicko's that think they have the right to harm our innocent children.
What? Of course it's not killing until you actually KILL someone, just like you can DREAM of robbing somebody, but it's not robbery until it's acted upon. These terms refer to the actions, not the thoughts of an individual. We don't punish people based on thoughts, although that's essentially what the Left would like with their cries of racism, sexism, etc.
The article is saying that pedophilia is a term referring to a person's thoughts, whereas molestation or rape are terms referring to the action that a pedophile MAY carry out.
I'm not saying they aren't pushing a leftist agenda, because they probably are, but I also don't think the logic is flawed.
I suppose I didn't word my comment very well. What I meant was that the statement "pedophilia isn't a crime until it's acted upon" is effectively meaningless, because every crime works that way. The logic of the statement is true, but it doesn't actually say anything.
I do think that there should be some way to help people who have such urges - but then it becomes a question of human nature and the flexibility (or inflexibility, rather) of sexual preference. Are pedophiles hard-wired to be that way and there's no hope of changing it? I'm not qualified to speak on such matters and I'm not sure if anyone really understands the human brain well enough to do so.
TheKFCNyanCat ago
This is literally some SJW who thinks transgender women shouldn't be considered women because "muh male privelege."
BlackTara108 ago
Don't even try to indoctrinate me or attempt to 'normalize' the crime of pedophilia. I don't care. Leave our children alone, you sick criminals. Don't even THINK about them in your sick minds.
BlackTara108 ago
So how many people who sexually lust after our children are 'just thinkin' but not acting on it"? YOU are apologizing for pedophiles. YOU are trying to influence people to feel sorry for the 'poor, emotionally troubled and sadly misunderstood molesters of our innocent children. Yet, you don't mention the anguish that millions of children are going thru because of these freaks. YOU are part of the problem.
BlackTara108 ago
Good point. These bad things always seem to start in California then spread from state to state....No wonder there are so many natural disasters there.
bidentime ago
The move to normalize pedophelia has been going on for years. That will be much easier to normalize than human trafficking, though.
ARodge ago
You are all, in my opinion, dumb as shit, but I can just ignore your comments like you can ignore this one. I don't agree but I don't care what most people who agree with me think either and I can ignore it at will.
404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago
No, you're buying into their BS. They have done something wrong, gluttony is wrong.
TheKFCNyanCat ago
Being a pedophile is not a crime, but I usually only hear the word "pedophilia" used to refer to pedophiliac acts.
franzkb ago
Even the New York Times is involved. I hope they all burn.
Mistah_monstah ago
I don't think sexuality is genetic. It doesn't make sense that a guy can be born attracted to children when it is clear that child molestation is a form of moral corruption.
ItsReal ago
This is being pushed because convicted pedophiles will be able to escape prison, citing mental illness. It is very important that we challenge the idea that "pedophilia is not a crime" wherever we see it. No, thoughts are not crimes, but the abuse of children is pure evil, and justifying it in any way is hateful. If this topic is ever brought up in your presence, hammer it home: "Pedos say it's a mental illness so they can avoid prison for their crimes."
TheKFCNyanCat ago
I'm a believer that the elites do it as a form of mind control; they don't derive pleasure from it (well, the Podestas might be an exception.)
TheKFCNyanCat ago
It's a crime and a disorder
Mistah_monstah ago
I could swear there's a shill downvoting comments on this thread.
Lag-wagon ago
Being a pedophile is not a crime. Acting on it is.
Fatsack ago
This isn't like addiction. Someone is directly harmed abused and mentally scarred by Pedophilia. No one but the subject is harmed when you drink a beer or smoke a joint. Trying to equate pedophilia to victim-less crime is just gross. EVEN IF THEY HAVE ZERO CONTROL OVER IT. Just like a healthy organism must destroy bacteria and viruses that are chemically deterministic, society must have antibodies about victimed crime, even if you hold the belief that we have no free will and everything is a result of neuro-chemistry.
29328 ago
The devil rules the world right now! Don't wish, pray instead! #truth
Apostatis ago
New York Times is the new Mary Sue.
ArcherMcTaco ago
aren't these the same people who said that pizzagate is a hoax harassment campaign against those poor innocent victims listed as the most powerful people in DC?
uk7zgzB66VPq ago
Go blog about pussy. Nobody gives a fuck what you think.
thisistotallynotme ago
Post is from 2014.
what's "right now" about this?
Naalu ago
I didnt see that when i posted. My friend send it to me and i tought its new.
29328 ago
A news post from 2014 is still very "right now"! Widen your search circle - what's happening now has been developing for many many years - all info posted like this helps truth researchers to build the bigger picture and the bigger agenda behind it....
pizzapartywithkids ago
Thats when they become a sexual predator / molester, on top of being a pedophile. Its an important distinction to make because while we can get rid of people breaking the law for violating the rights of others, we simply can't get rid of the entire group of people who could be labeled 'pedophile'. The mindset is similar in nature to those who imagine running people over, shooting their boss, robbing a bank, etc - not illegal to think it, illegal to do it. I know this seems nuanced but it really is important to make this separation because we can't get carried away in our pursuit for justice. And its also important to realize that just because someone thinks it or desires it, does not mean they will act on it.
DexterM1776 ago
Remember when they said how stupid we where when we talked about that slippery slope?
Eat_The_Gungans ago
I wouldn't trust the Jew York Times if they said the sky was blue. Their obvious political agenda bleeds through every piece of their writing and it's disgusting.
FPSFairy ago
IIRC, treatment makes it somewhat less likely that a pedophile will act on their desires, but changing what someone is attracted to is not currently thought possible.
The problem, in the US anyway, is that laws in many states discourage pedophiles from seeking help, often resulting in many of the same punishments as an actual conviction. It makes it understandable then, even if undesirable, that not all pedophiles seek treatment.
theinternets ago
In sunny England, it's reported as an up and coming 'orientation'. [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/paedophilia-sexual-orientation-straight-gay-criminal-psychologist-child-sex-abuse-a6965956.html]
LuminaryAziraphale ago
What in the absolute fuck is this? If it wasn't a crime then why do all of the modern cultures have it prohibited and criminalized.
theinternets ago
Prohibited and criminalized to those without enough power or money.
LuminaryAziraphale ago
Exactly my point. The case of Ethan Couch showed exactly how much a person with money can get away with, as long as they say "i'm sorry, i didn't know i couldn't do that"
theinternets ago
And thus creating 'Allfuenza' - the rich man's disease. Such a joke. Cheers for the case study, had no idea who he was! Reminds me of the Standford rape case
VoteOrDie ago
The big difference between this and gay marriage is that gay marriage is between consenting adults, whereas acting upon pedo stuff results in diddling kids.
DopeandDiamonds ago
I agree. There is also a big dip in hormones as they age that takes away the urge. The men I deal with are all 50 or older and still have the fantasy in their heads but may not have the urge to act. Kinda like the idea of it is better than the actual act for them. With the registry enacted in the late 90's, sex offenders are watched for life on parole. Before that, if someone raped a kid and was out of jail by 1997, they never appeared on the registry and are unknown to their neighbors as sex offenders. That is the scary thing.
mildseven ago
This article is 2 years old. Even still it's a strange approach to an article. Does she want us to sympathize with them? Very strange.
DopeandDiamonds ago
The sex offender registry and current sex offender laws only apply to people convicted and released from jail after September 1, 1997. Prior to this, an offender would be released from jail with a limited parole, average being 5-10 years with very little follow up. Just a metting with your PO once a week and maybe a few random house checks. That is it. These are the folks I am speaking off. The old timer sex offenders who got unlucky and busted once though they offended god knows how many times. Because they have managed to not get caught again, they are considered in the "treatment works" section.
Now the released offender is watche like a hawk and most likely on life time parole. If you were convicted and released prior to the above date, there is no way of knowing that information unless they were registered on a state or county level. Many of these state and county registries were not included in the federal data base if the parole board did not keep electronic records.
The current system is much different and I deal with sex offender from long ago that are not on parole or even being watched.
co2_emitter ago
ARE YOU FUCKIN" KIDDING ME?!?! There are people in prison for serious time for sending SPAM.
18934732897 ago
I wouldn't dwell on that... I'm sure lots of secretly pedophile people never did anything. They shouldn't be afraid to come forward so we can perform brain surgery to remove all sexual behaviors and give them an ankle monitor.
Uncle_Skeeter ago
Of course pedophilia isn't a crime, but acting on it just is. That includes any sort of dealing with cheese pizza and of course molesting children.
That's why you choose a short, appropriately-aged chick with A-cups or smaller and not actual actual kids.
Julian55 ago
Guys you have to check out this link. I submitted this link on reddit. Its pretty fucked up. Kubrick had a way of telling us about what was happening and who was behind it all, in Eyes Wide Shut. I submit that pizzagate is part of the story that Kubrick was telling us and why he was killed.
https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/5ej5ht/i_saw_the_original_kubrick_eyes_wide_shut_with_an/
BiscuitFever ago
Alright, if you're attracted to prepubescent kids you have a mental disorder, but until you act on it there's no crime.
rrdesc ago
"Pedophilia is a disorder, not a crime". They make a distinction which is really a confusion. In a sense, it is trivial that "pedophilia" is not a crime: the condition of someone being sexually attracted to children is not criminous per se; it becomes a crime when one brings fruition to these disadjusted tendencies. When people say pedophilia is a crime they are talking about such ACTIONS, not about the underlying disorder existing in the agentes of those actions. Everyone knows that (though maybe not consciously). So, why obliterate this fact and completely confuse these two nuances/uses of the concept/word "pedophilia" (the tendency and the fruition of this tendency)? I wouldn't be surprised if their intent is to create semantic and mental confusion as a part of a slow process of conditioning the masses for the moral acceptance of ACTIONS of pedophilic behaviour -- not as acts of criminals, but as irremediable behaviour of sick people (and then of "people who are born this way and must be accepted").
Volkisch ago
It is not criminal or immoral to be sexually attracted to children. It is important to distinguish thoughts and feelings from actions. Only actions should be criminalized.
29328 ago
it 100% IS immoral! Thinking unclean thoughts is a sin. Making it socially acceptable for a person to "think" those thoughts, or "fantasize" in his/her mind is the work of the devil. It's now being viewed as a sexual "orientation" in the UK..
Volkisch ago
Well, let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I agree with you that indulging in certain thoughts or fantasies can be self-harmful to a person and cause degeneration in society. I agree with you that we should not promote or normalize pedophilia for those reasons. However, I think it is true that some people do naturally have 'deviant' sexual attractions (whether pedophilia, homosexuality or something else) through no fault of their own, as a result of their biology or childhood experiences. Unless they commit a criminal action we should not persecute these people for their troubles. Instead we should encourage them to resist their thoughts, and we should develop compassionate therapy and treatment for pedophilia. You know that strait is the gate and narrow is the way that leads to life; we must help those that have lost the way.
Millennial_Falcon ago
You're suggesting an entire scientific community is trying to push pedophilia on us. Use Ockham's razor. It's far more likely that there IS a genetic link to pedophilia. That doesn't mean there aren't also environmental factors that could push some to become an actual molester, but apparently the science thus far suggests the attraction is often genetic.
Dragonfly44 ago
a pity for them that more people are reading about pizzagate than those that read NYT. MSM is dying on its ass, they haven't got nearly as much leverage as they think they do.
ThePuppetShow ago
Salon has been pushing this bullshit too... http://www.infowars.com/no-salon-com-i-dont-need-to-understand-the-plight-of-pedophiles/ http://www.infowars.com/salon-pushes-pedophile-sympathy-again/
shin-kicked ago
im sure ages ago i saw a documentary on channel 4 (uk) stating along similar lines that the attraction to young people/ underage people is a condition that cant be helped. I can see pedophile sexuality being somewhat pushed and introduced to normalize it in society along the same route that homosexuality took.
sleepingbeautycan ago
SecretAccountNo47 ago
Isn't "wanting to eat human flesh" a disorder as well?
That doesn't mean frying up a human's bicep (that you've harvested) isn't a crime.
vacvape ago
Right like there are schizos who are told to eat people's faces and think it's the voice of god but they know they are fucked and resist the order. Murder is the crime, having the voice isn't. We should give them the pedo's jobs in Hollywood instead. We'd probably get some fucking decent movies for a change.
Rusdy ago
Hey, I am german as well and always thought the NYT was the outstanding US newspaper until this election... Guess better getting redpilled sooner than later huh?
vacvape ago
You've never asked a dog to go for a walk have you.
Going to stop you at the "if untreated, leads to" bs. Because there's no treatment that prevents, cures or resolves, pretty much anything. It's pretty much all just chemical lobotomies. Does that actually help though? Or was that actual goal? The logic is a leap to begin with.
White_Phillip ago
(((Margo Kaplan)))
AJ-Styles ago
Trying to normalize pedophilia
Schrodingers_Spy ago
I'd recommend linking to an archived page so as to not indirectly contribute to nytimes.
Sleuth222 ago
Since children can't consent, there is no choice but to rape them. Gay people can fuck each other with their consent, they don't have to rape.
Sleuth222 ago
This is the real reason we are hearing so much about pedophilia in the news today. They are trying to get out ahead of the story in order to control the narrative. I'd upvote you but I'm apparently out of those.
Owlhunter ago
I agree, there is an agenda being promoted to make pedos socially accepted. Upvoted
the_magic_man ago
The article is from over 2 years ago
Sleuth222 ago
Yes. Around the same time Hillary's private email servers were discovered.
FormerDiggUser ago
What's that got to do with this article?
PizzaGate started from Podesta's emails. Not Hillary's.
Sleuth222 ago
Obviously. The pedo forgiveness message started when emails started being hacked and they knew someone would get caught. Podesta, Hillary, Soros, Whoever, doesn't matter.
AJ-Styles ago
What's truly sickening is that so many people don't buy it. I tried showing my own brother this information and before I could even show him anything he just says he refuses to believe some Reddit conspiracy. He doesn't even know the sub got shut down. This is what's fucked up though. Bunch of numbnuts will read this article and totally validate it.
Bfwilley ago
Wow the NYT has followed Salon.
lordtyp0 ago
This isn't really an apologetic article. It is akin to saying "Rape fantasy is not rape". Paedophilia is sexual attraction to 'sexlessness'. The state before secondary traits manifest.
I am not seeing anything in the article immediately as incorrect, or somehow 'wrong'. It is true that in the US very little effort goes into prevention of things, in part because of the stigmas attached. So, paedophiles tend to either become predators, or wind up in a situation they think will keep them from transgressing (such as becoming a priest), often to bad results.
Paedophilia is a mental illness. It is not an issue until some form of practice-because every sane person agrees that "Thought Crime" is bullshit.
So.. What exactly is the objection? Is this just witch hunting? The article is from a bit over two years ago. It isn't some form of deflection over the pizzagate stuff that is ongoing...
samhara ago
The Times article is from October 5th. Didn't the Pizza story break after that? Or did they know it was on it's way, by then?
DentHouper ago
2014
Dragonfly44 ago
Not a crime?
Consent is at the very heart of legality.
How does an innocent child without the knowledge, experience or strength to resist, consent? They can't, and so must be protected.
NYT are focussing on the plight of the pedos.
We are interested in the wellbeing of the children.
We are on the right side of this. There can be no argument otherwise. None.
Fuck you NYT, disgusting rag.
FreedSpirit ago
This just further cements my conviction that the only reason they push for Sex Ed courses in school curriculum to kid at 8 is for two main things.
1- Talk and manipulate kids on transgenderism
2- Teach them on consent and how to give/pick up sexual clues
3- Teach kids to identify sexual predators and their signs and how to consent
4- Teach kids about safe sex
5- Help them identify membla signs
Wahaha ago
....wat?
derpity-do-dah ago
This sounds to me like they are preparing the next generation for kiddie diddlers...a societal change like this one will take longer to have the masses approve... However, getting the idea out there (today) into softer heads (libs) is the first seed... As it was in the days of Noah...
Never_Over ago
you should do psycho therapy to reverse those thoughts.
Never_Over ago
its a diversion attempt from reality. this is how obama can literally say the exact opposite and get away with it. same with hillary, this is well documented.
its pseudo journalism, political state run brainwashing on a large term. when they simply can say kid touchers are non issue, they have won.
welcome to voat, you have much to learn. and tagged as such
derpity-do-dah ago
You beat me to it! Perfect brother/sister! Though when I think of all of this corruption and evil (not /just/ child rape), my mind goes to Matthew 24:37:
37“And as the days of Noaḥ, so also shall the coming of the Son of Aḏam be.
alphatango ago
Neither is racism, homophobia, misandry or misogyny. When am I going to see a NYT article defending any of these 'conditions'?
DentHouper ago
Being an arsonist is not a crime. Committing arson is a crime. Thing is, until you commit arson, you are not an arsonist. There is no such thing as a non-offending arsonist.
There is no such thing as a non-offending pedophile.
tallorder ago
Well, it is well known that male homosexuals are three times more likely to abuse children than heterosexual males. Per capita. Also, remember that the population demographic of homosexuals to heterosexuals is minute in comparison. When this is taken in to account, the sheer amount of abuse perpetrated by homosexuals as opposed to heterosexuals is astounding. Normalize homosexuality then normalize pedophilia. This is why the "gay rights" advocate groups marched with and were associated with NAMBLA in the 80's.
The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual pedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1556756
NAMBLA was part of the International Lesbian and Gay Association (ILGA) until ILGA kicked NAMBLA out in order to secure UN funding. Upon that happening, several leading lights in the ILGA, including Harry Hay, one of the founders, resigned in protest, saying that we have no right to impose our views of sexuality on NAMBLA members.
http://www.un.org/press/en/2002/ECOSOC6004.doc.htm
Harry Hay was a parade captain of the San Francisco Gay Pride parade... and later arrested for child pornography.
Look into the homosexual/pedophilia link.
piratse ago
They do no deserve the click money. Stop linking directly please. Take the extra step to help all of us vote with our wallets/clicks. The more clicks they see, the more they think people like reading this shit and the more they will publish.
DopeandDiamonds ago
I agree with that. When i say you cannot treat them, Iean you may be able to get them to atop acting on urges but they will continue to watch children in public and seek out videos and pics of children being raped to get off on. You can get them to stop abusing but they will continue seek out victims for fantasize about and view rape videos. They also continue to groom children to accept the behavior and normalize the thinking that children can be be with adults.
Many cases I have seen and heard of about pedos being "reformed" only include stats on actual crimes of rape. They do not include stats on pedos jacking it to vids and pedos grooming children to act on other children while they watch. To the MSM and sadly many MH professionals, not activly raping a child but watching video or having children molest other children for pleasure is still considered successful treatment.
TheDude2 ago
Margo is ill informed and playing a word game.
bdmthrfkr ago
This is fucking disgusting!!
it_was_foretold ago
This is brainwash people. When it benefits them:let's lock up (for the most part, true victimless) criminals like drug users. When it benefits them--pedophiles need help and our support, not jail time. Conflict in logic.
Arauna ago
All studies say it cannot be treated. These people are permanently broken.
18934732897 ago
I'm sure in time we could figure out which part of the brain to remove. Just gotta some do experiments...
algernon4peace ago
Yes, that is exactly what i learned in school as well. If these people can't control themselves, they need to be permanently separated from the rest of society. These kind of articles worry me. Next, we're going to see our most trusted celebrity come forward and explain how paedophilia is perfectly normal and natural.
LetTheAshesFly ago
They should worry everyone.
Guy who raped me works in schools, in rural areas. Has 3 kids and a wife whose okay with his child-diddling ways. They know the laws are so lax where I'm from that even if I "did something" about it, he would only get a light slap on the wrist. He claims he's "damaged" from what he did as well, when him and his wife messaged me to remind me to shut my mouth. I'm worried about his kids, but just like all the freak enablers want - I am helpless.
Crux ago
Conditions like that are what vigilantism springs out of.
HeavyBrain ago
Not yet, only when their spin snaps.
pocketForceNapkin ago
Don't thank god, thank us, you, me. We did this.
zquad ago
Males only... this is bullshit. But from what I understand pedophilia cannot be cured.
antipedo ago
Such a manipulative article must contain a grain of truth and here it is: pedophilia is a disorder. That's true, it's not a crime.
But acting on those urges is.
DopeandDiamonds ago
Worked in mental health for 13 years. Pedos cannot be treated.
We need to stop calling it child porn. Porn is between consenting adults. Children cannot consent. This is child rape and child sexual abuse.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
If pedophilia is a sexual orientation and it is genetic in nature, then we'll eventually be able to turn it off using technology like CRISPR. What's really interesting about that is that we'll also be able to turn off homosexuality (or for that matter, heterosexuality). That's going to be an interesting conversation this country is going to have if this does end up being the case.
DopeandDiamonds ago
It is not genetic. It is a naturally occuring wiring problem in the brain. The same way that people find feet to be sexy and have a foot fetish. In our brains, the sexual stimulation portion is next to the portion that controls and feels our feet. One simple wire gets crossed in brain development and you get turned on by feet. As far as I know, there is not a genetic connection. Now there could be a genetic connection in the pattern in which a brain is wired throughout family lines but it is not dependant on a gene outright. You would not be able to isolate this because hormones dictate wiring as we grow up. A homosexual is not gay from conception but rather the wiring as we grow causes it. Again, certain wiring patterns may exist with defects in family genetics but I do not believe it can be changed or isolated on a gene level.
oedipusaurus_rex ago
That's cool. Is that the consensus?
Commonwombat ago
And notice they call Epstein's plane "The Lolita Express" as if somehow the young girls were wanting it? It puts the blame on the children and not the adults, like the adults were lured by young nymphos and had no control over their desires. Unbelievable!
DopeandDiamonds ago
As much as pedis condition the victims, they also condition themselves into thinking the girls are seducing them. So yeah, to them they areblittle Lolitas begging for attention.
ovigia ago
as a lot of people been saying, the liberals and left is doing everything they can to normalize this monstrous behaviour that should be severely punished. and of course it's a crime.
BlackTara108 ago
Seeing pedophile apologist's commenting and trying to socially condition people in these comments. People who've just joined like 5 hours ago.... These baby raping bastards must not be coddled. How could anyone in their right mind condone ANY of this bullshit? Keep on speaking out, people! Don't let these criminals get away with apologizing for or condoning criminal pedophilia and child rape.
nimblenav ago
Salon pushed it as well.
They have been going for it for a while, gender identity bullshit and making children transgender is just the first step towards it.
ArtsyLiberationz ago
WhatTheActual FUCK NYTimes!? and some one explain why on the left there are so many defenders of this islamic rapists and refugee invaders who attack children and are trying to enter Europe and people who defend these islamics who want to get into the USA? what the actual fuck is up with the socialjusticeperverts?
BlackTara108 ago
Raping children is 'not a crime'? Do you have kids? If one of these satanic scum bags took YOUR child and raped them how would YOU feel? Would that be 'problematic' to you? Pedophiles and their apologist's are everywhere. So easy to identify. Sick, criminal bastards.
32890902389089023 ago
They are trying to normalize it through propaganda like this then legalize it. We must fight back.
Millennial_Falcon ago
This is being completely misinterpreted by alarmists. Not that I trust the NYT at all, but this article is not saying child molestation is not a heinous crime. It is based on the modern consensus in the American Psychological Association that pedophilia is innate (people are born with it). That doesn't mean child molestation isn't a crime, and it doesn't in any way justify child molestation, nor does it even mean that all child molestors have innate pedophilia. This is the kind of alarmist disinformation that will get us branded a bunch of lunatics.
Drain0 ago
But again, liberal logic says all men are rapist so therefore using that logic all fags will rape you.
Rusdy ago
The NYT also retwittered their Article about pizzagate today. The interesting thing about the article is that already in the subtitle it denounces the whole issue by mentioning that due to "fake news websites", "Hillary Clinton is abusing children at Comet Ping Pong".
First, to my knowledge nobody ever said that and secondly this image makes anyone reading the article instantly disbelieving it due to this outlandish claim. It is the classic gaslighting we all have come to know over the course of this year.
The article further does not address any of the valid concerns and issues like the codewords, the pedophilia symbols, the bizarre instagram photos, the Podesta "art" or all the connections to high DC players.
It only serves the purpose that people don't even dig deeper into the whole matter by making such a crazy premise which only validates our concerns.
EarlPoncho ago
you should just do everyone a favor and end it
aileron_ron ago
America is learning from Germany's mistakes,
make Pedophilia legal.
bring in Muslim refugees.
BlackTara108 ago
We're beyond disgusted with it. How dare they attempt to normalize pedophilia? We were warned that the 'homosexual agenda' & 'the pedo agenda' were one and the same. Harry Hay, anyone? We will NEVER stay silent when it comes to protecting our children from these criminal freaks. Obama/Biden/Clinton/PlannedParenthood/The UN/ NAMBLA & many more are guilty. StandForFamiliesWorldwide has more info on that. Both written & a mind blowing documentary.
PrinceOfLies ago
OK, they have no choice. Then put them down like the dangerous, defective animals that they are.
oldchangling ago
Here you go: http://archive.is/m8wU8
Drain0 ago
Well good. With this logic we can now say faggots and trannies are not normal, they have disorders.
TheKFCNyanCat ago
Yes, but gays and transgenders don't infringe on the freedoms of others.
shakin_my_head ago
In the natural order of things you could argue that they do have a disorder.
Drain0 ago
I'm definitely not one to argue against such a claim.
VoteOrDie ago
Why can't it be both a disorder and a crime? I'm all for personal freedoms unless they infringe on the rights of others, and I'm pretty sure that we've already established that sexual abuse is bad for kids, right?
the_magic_man ago
You can't punished someone for what they're thinking.
BlackTara108 ago
Damn that's a smart reply! These people don't care what we think, tho. They have mad $ & power behind them. Evil doesn't consider the thoughts and feelings of others. Evil gives special privileges to the decrepit and robs the masses of their freedoms.
SelfReferenceParadox ago
> male population
Remember kids, when a woman diddles children, it's OK because they were male and wanted it! Doesn't matter that the kid was five. Also feminism is for equality.
Riva ago
It was her turn, you sexist! /s
BlackTara108 ago
Traditional families were destroyed by this bullshit.
Gorillion ago
Destruction of the nuclear family is part of the agenda, if not one of the central goals.
The last bastion to fall is the sanctity of the child.
BlackTara108 ago
How can we stop it? How can we when 3/4 of American's are drugged into oblivion by pharmaceuticals and won't even read/watch anything but msm?
FormerDiggUser ago
What exactly do you think this "Agenda's" end goal is?
Do you think that differing sexual preferences are a choice?
404_SLEEP_NOT_FOUND ago
See? That's how it ends. First it starts with fat acceptance. Then everyone should be accepted, even the child rapists have feelings too you monsters!!
Naalu ago
I was more inclined on the angle how its indicative that all of this is going mainstream at this time when Pizzagate and other stuff is uncovered.
bikergang_accountant ago
Well it's true. Abuse of children is a crime.
BlackTara108 ago
It's a heinous crime and must continue to stay a crime but hearing California & others have become quite lax on these laws. Disturbing window into our entire country's future should we stay silent. How dare anyone think it's ok to rape and exploit an innocent child? Seems they & their apologist's are everywhere. One just attacked me on here stating he hated SJW's and that's what people who protect children, are. Guilty, 100% of being a sicko's himself. We ain't having it.
Norm85 ago
Look at the way that Hollywood rallied around Roman Polanski. The original charges against him was rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance to a minor. Yet he still had so much support and excuses made for his behaviour by Hollywood.
BlackTara108 ago
Good example, thank you.
sleepingbeautycan ago
If only SJW's protect children from pedos, I will go dye my hair and start complaining about micro-aggressions.
BlackTara108 ago
You're a liar and a pedophile apologist. I'd lay $ that YOU are a pedophile. This isn't some SJ campaign, jackass. These our OUR CHILDREN. All decent people want to protect them. Your profile added to the voat pro-pedo-list, scumbag.
vacvape ago
It's funny how often they risk taking children from loving parents and good homes for a bit of weed and give them over to pedos to look after them, innit? It's funny how that all feeds into itself.
BlackTara108 ago
Rothchild zionist agenda is funny like that...They come at us at all angles.
shakin_my_head ago
Who was it? I would like to attack him back.
BlackTara108 ago
Blocked several (or more) pro pedo accounts so far. Suddenly, Voat is over run by Rothchild Zionist scum, who're promoting systematic child abuse, widespread war, hating on Indian's while promoting gas companies, promoting both fracking and GMO industries, etc....ALL rothchild zionist agendas and creations. They insist that pedophilia isn't a crime. You can go to my profile & read thru all of the posts/comments, to see who is apologizing for pedos. I suspect that a few sicko's have multiple accs. Also Voat says it doesn't sensor but I think it certainly buries certain subjects. I wish more people would confront those who shill for these monsters. Thank you for your work to protect our kids from this vile NWO scum. LiberalPenquin wants us to know that "there's a difference between pedophilia & molestation" He is a pedophile apologist and attempting to normalize pedophilia thru propaganda.
shakin_my_head ago
Indeed! Its the saddest thing in the world to see them try justify their desires through others actions.
BlackTara108 ago
What makes me even sadder is that more people don't speak up and denounce these articles and the actions of our rulers. The minds of average people sure have changed from the 1970's on...rapid devolution, it seems...
LiberalPenguin ago
Who says it is? Do you really not know the difference between child molestation and pedophilia?
BlackTara108 ago
ANYONE who even thinks of touching a child is a scumbag. There is no difference. You, modern-day-Liberals ARE pro pedophile scumbags that are runing our children, families and world with your sick, depraved criminality. Karma always comes back. Know that. Yours too, will ripen one day. Baby raping scum. You have a lot of nerve to try to propagandize me.
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LetTheAshesFly ago
Lol. They "live in terror" cuz they want to fuck kids. How fucking bizarre. No one seems to give a shit about the lives they ruin when they do get that long awaited opportunity.
justice4all ago
So are they just saying pedophilia isn't a crime unless you act on it or are they saying that all of it isn't a crime
sleepingbeautycan ago
but child pornography is acting on it, right?
justice4all ago
I feel just pedophilia as a whole. I don't mean to be the thought police but all pedophiles will visualize having sex with a child or just pedo behavior itself and that is disgusting and horrible. I know it's not a crime (yet) to think of things but thoughts lead to actions which is why lots of them will view cp and some will do it.
Naalu ago
Yeah basically they're saying that its not a crime if you dont act on it.
FormerDiggUser ago
Are you trying to promote thought crime?
Naalu ago
No, as I've said already. I found it interesting how we read about pedophilia now everywhere,
Shook ago
I mean... no shit. Who even disagrees with that argument? It just seems way too fucking coincidental to come out with this shit RIGHT as all this is breaking. This has been common knowledge for decades. Who thinks someone should be locked up for thoughts??
LinoleumFulcrum ago
If you don't act on it, it is only a thought.
Thoughts belong to ourselves only, actions belong to everyone.
Gorillion ago
But when you start pride groups and trying to normalize it as an "orientation" rather than a pathology, your endgame is full acceptance.
Fuck them all the death.
OneTrueCube ago
Well, killing another person isn't a crime unless you actually perform the act. Robbery isn't a crime until you actually take something. Their logic is terrible.
Edit: I suppose the logic itself is sound, but the argument is meaningless, since any law broken follows the same logic, there's no reason to act like this one particular case (pedophilia) is special.
ManTank ago
Are you advocating locking people up for thoughtcrime?
OneTrueCube ago
Anything but - and to be frank I'm not sure how you got that message from my earlier comment. I also tried to clarify what I meant a little.
That is an interesting line of thinking though. At what point does the idea become the action - we can't legally arrest someone for writing a story where they make themselves into a serial killer or master burglar, as long as they keep such stories and ideas to themselves. If someone wrote a story where they were sexually abusing underage kids, would it be justified to arrest them or punish them somehow even if they never acted upon it? Where does the line get drawn? I certainly don't have the answer to that question.
BlackTara108 ago
How many of these sicko's are actually abstaining from harming our children? Nil to none. It's just spin on their ugly path to normalize pedophilia. Harry Hay himself proves that homo/pedo agendas are the same damned thing. Buncha' criminal sicko's that think they have the right to harm our innocent children.
informed-voater ago
What? Of course it's not killing until you actually KILL someone, just like you can DREAM of robbing somebody, but it's not robbery until it's acted upon. These terms refer to the actions, not the thoughts of an individual. We don't punish people based on thoughts, although that's essentially what the Left would like with their cries of racism, sexism, etc.
The article is saying that pedophilia is a term referring to a person's thoughts, whereas molestation or rape are terms referring to the action that a pedophile MAY carry out.
I'm not saying they aren't pushing a leftist agenda, because they probably are, but I also don't think the logic is flawed.
OneTrueCube ago
I suppose I didn't word my comment very well. What I meant was that the statement "pedophilia isn't a crime until it's acted upon" is effectively meaningless, because every crime works that way. The logic of the statement is true, but it doesn't actually say anything.
I do think that there should be some way to help people who have such urges - but then it becomes a question of human nature and the flexibility (or inflexibility, rather) of sexual preference. Are pedophiles hard-wired to be that way and there's no hope of changing it? I'm not qualified to speak on such matters and I'm not sure if anyone really understands the human brain well enough to do so.