Well, killing another person isn't a crime unless you actually perform the act. Robbery isn't a crime until you actually take something. Their logic is terrible.
Edit: I suppose the logic itself is sound, but the argument is meaningless, since any law broken follows the same logic, there's no reason to act like this one particular case (pedophilia) is special.
Anything but - and to be frank I'm not sure how you got that message from my earlier comment. I also tried to clarify what I meant a little.
That is an interesting line of thinking though. At what point does the idea become the action - we can't legally arrest someone for writing a story where they make themselves into a serial killer or master burglar, as long as they keep such stories and ideas to themselves. If someone wrote a story where they were sexually abusing underage kids, would it be justified to arrest them or punish them somehow even if they never acted upon it? Where does the line get drawn? I certainly don't have the answer to that question.
How many of these sicko's are actually abstaining from harming our children? Nil to none. It's just spin on their ugly path to normalize pedophilia. Harry Hay himself proves that homo/pedo agendas are the same damned thing. Buncha' criminal sicko's that think they have the right to harm our innocent children.
What? Of course it's not killing until you actually KILL someone, just like you can DREAM of robbing somebody, but it's not robbery until it's acted upon. These terms refer to the actions, not the thoughts of an individual. We don't punish people based on thoughts, although that's essentially what the Left would like with their cries of racism, sexism, etc.
The article is saying that pedophilia is a term referring to a person's thoughts, whereas molestation or rape are terms referring to the action that a pedophile MAY carry out.
I'm not saying they aren't pushing a leftist agenda, because they probably are, but I also don't think the logic is flawed.
I suppose I didn't word my comment very well. What I meant was that the statement "pedophilia isn't a crime until it's acted upon" is effectively meaningless, because every crime works that way. The logic of the statement is true, but it doesn't actually say anything.
I do think that there should be some way to help people who have such urges - but then it becomes a question of human nature and the flexibility (or inflexibility, rather) of sexual preference. Are pedophiles hard-wired to be that way and there's no hope of changing it? I'm not qualified to speak on such matters and I'm not sure if anyone really understands the human brain well enough to do so.
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justice4all ago
So are they just saying pedophilia isn't a crime unless you act on it or are they saying that all of it isn't a crime
Naalu ago
Yeah basically they're saying that its not a crime if you dont act on it.
OneTrueCube ago
Well, killing another person isn't a crime unless you actually perform the act. Robbery isn't a crime until you actually take something. Their logic is terrible.
Edit: I suppose the logic itself is sound, but the argument is meaningless, since any law broken follows the same logic, there's no reason to act like this one particular case (pedophilia) is special.
ManTank ago
Are you advocating locking people up for thoughtcrime?
OneTrueCube ago
Anything but - and to be frank I'm not sure how you got that message from my earlier comment. I also tried to clarify what I meant a little.
That is an interesting line of thinking though. At what point does the idea become the action - we can't legally arrest someone for writing a story where they make themselves into a serial killer or master burglar, as long as they keep such stories and ideas to themselves. If someone wrote a story where they were sexually abusing underage kids, would it be justified to arrest them or punish them somehow even if they never acted upon it? Where does the line get drawn? I certainly don't have the answer to that question.
BlackTara108 ago
How many of these sicko's are actually abstaining from harming our children? Nil to none. It's just spin on their ugly path to normalize pedophilia. Harry Hay himself proves that homo/pedo agendas are the same damned thing. Buncha' criminal sicko's that think they have the right to harm our innocent children.
informed-voater ago
What? Of course it's not killing until you actually KILL someone, just like you can DREAM of robbing somebody, but it's not robbery until it's acted upon. These terms refer to the actions, not the thoughts of an individual. We don't punish people based on thoughts, although that's essentially what the Left would like with their cries of racism, sexism, etc.
The article is saying that pedophilia is a term referring to a person's thoughts, whereas molestation or rape are terms referring to the action that a pedophile MAY carry out.
I'm not saying they aren't pushing a leftist agenda, because they probably are, but I also don't think the logic is flawed.
OneTrueCube ago
I suppose I didn't word my comment very well. What I meant was that the statement "pedophilia isn't a crime until it's acted upon" is effectively meaningless, because every crime works that way. The logic of the statement is true, but it doesn't actually say anything.
I do think that there should be some way to help people who have such urges - but then it becomes a question of human nature and the flexibility (or inflexibility, rather) of sexual preference. Are pedophiles hard-wired to be that way and there's no hope of changing it? I'm not qualified to speak on such matters and I'm not sure if anyone really understands the human brain well enough to do so.