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ilovepussy ago

@puttitout - I've made this proposal a couple of times in the past to both you and Atko, but alas, I never got a response. I will make this offer again. This time on your open post:

I have always agreed with your philosophy and the voat principles that are the foundation of what you have built.

As I stated in previous messages, I have no desire to change these fundamentals. My only goal is to provide material assistance with the hopes of being part of something bigger than the sum of the parts. Maybe, sometime in the future, there might be some tangible return on investment. Then again, if it is not in the cards, I would still consider it money well spent.

I would like to know what you see as your short and medium term goals. Is it to find sufficient funding to allow you to devote your full-time efforts to voat? Is it to have sufficient funding to cover hosting? Do you need development assistance, or other professional services? What I am really asking is; What are you looking for?

I want to help, and I have access to resources that could provide significant funding, and/or professional assistance.

If you are interested, please send me a PM, and I will provide hard contact information.

LostandFound ago

They need to get 2-3 Linux devs with .net experience for about 2-3 months to get away from azure. This should reduce down the hosting by about 75% then they need to appoint someone to sales and marketing to monitize in a sustainable and acceptable way. So 50-60k budget on dev time 18 - 24 in hosting fees in the interim. At that point hosting should be sub 2k per month. Banner ads on the top of each sub charged based on popularity of sub aim for average of 500 usd per month. Breitbart would love a banner on top of politics or news. Now you just need to sell 8 - 10 per month to cover hosting costs and initial basic wage for a salesperson.

Its so close but they do need an angel, but they could implement the banners today if there was a will to do it.

aztek ago

They need to get 2-3 Linux devs with .net experience for about 2-3 months to get away from azure. This should reduce down the hosting by about 75%

Have at it. Don't know how to write software you say? Then maybe you should stop telling everyone how many people are needed and how long it will take for something you know nothing about.

then they need to appoint someone to sales and marketing to monitize in a sustainable and acceptable way. So 50-60k budget on dev time 18 - 24 in hosting fees in the interim.

He has no money, how was he going to hire these people again?

Banner ads on the top of each sub charged based on popularity of sub aim for average of 500 usd per month. Breitbart would love a banner on top of politics or news. Now you just need to sell 8 - 10 per month to cover hosting costs and initial basic wage for a salesperson

Has anyone talked to Beitbart regarding this? Or are you just assuming they want to advertise here? Oh right, you're talking so far out of your ass it's a game of twister to keep from tasting shit.

Its so close but they do need an angel, but they could implement the banners today if there was a will to do it.

Putting a banner ad somewhere it easy. Finding someone willing to pay for the space is not.

SomewhatNeutral ago

Have at it. Don't know how to write software you say? Then maybe you should stop telling everyone how many people are needed and how long it will take for something you know nothing about.

Do you tell managers: "why don't you fucking learn $language?"

LostandFound ago

Used to run an ecom Web dev business lots of hands on time with long beards though my skills are less useful, now run a contact centre largely selling advertising spaces. Have you seen brietbarts website? they would buy ad space on your anus and flog jumpers from it. Selling highly targeted advertising with reliable user statistics is really really easy.

Trying to contribute from my experience, but cheers for taking a dump on the situation, perhaps they might change their mind on that ass you were offering them.

SkepticalMartian ago

This tells me you're little more than a stupid fag with zero industry experience trying to sound like he knows what he's talking about. If you did, you wouldn't be trying to make time and manpower estimates without looking at the code first.

LostandFound ago

Whats your issue goyim? Putt gave his estimations as he already looked into this, I know SFA about porting .NET

PuttItOut ago

Voat needs three things:

  1. We need full time staff (limited but some key positions need filled).
  2. We need to address our scalability issues as this is our number one issue technologically (we've made major improvements but we are nowhere where we need to be).
  3. We need to have operation costs taken care of.

Ideally I was hoping for a one year investment to see how far we can get and then reassess at that time on any future commitment.

Serious inquiries can always be sent to [email protected]

jhaluska ago

You need to focus on cost reduction instead of scalability.

aztek ago

You have bigger problems.

  1. You need an actual BUSINESS PLAN. Everything I've seen so far seems half assed. Good programmers don't always make good business people. Consider prioritizing someone who is willing to work out how to

  2. You need to find backers who don't care that you host racist, homophobic, and general hate speech. I have long since stopped giving a shit about what people say or how they say it much like everyone else here, but let's face it. That's going to be very hard to sell. Most advertisers won't want anything to do with that. I don't think you can survive on donations alone - most people would probably kick in a few bucks but I don't think many will make regular contributions.

  3. Solve the first two problems and all your other concerns mostly go away. I don't think you can solve the first two problems without significantly changing what makes Voat what it is. I'd be very surprised if Voat is around much longer.

Puttitout_Is_Fat ago

Voat needs three things: the removal of you criminal paid shills, here's a list of the main abusers to be removed the placement of good free-speech honoring people in voat's leadership once you and your cabal are gone, and a return to the transparency, no-censorship, no-behavioral-manipulation, community-participates-in-direction-building voat that it used to be before you shills took over.

ilovepussy ago

I've sent you an email in response.

Donbuster ago

Putt. In regards to the scaleability issues, there is considerable technological know-how on this site. I'm currently in the process of herding some cats goats into looking at the existing git repo, and seeing if we can rebuild your stack in a manner that readies the site for moving off azure onto cheaper platforms. We would appreciate any insight you might have https://voat.co/v/SavingVoat/1866511

Omnipresent ago

The git repository for this site? You mean this one? https://github.com/voat/voat

Donbuster ago

There is a more recent one

https://github.com/voat/voat/tree/Dev

but yes