Edit:
I'm simply blown away with you goats. I was expecting a somber farewell in this thread but instead you've done the exact opposite; pulled off a rally at the bottom of the 9th. On a personal note, and this may seem sentimental, but you have given me a new hope for Voat at very dark time for me.
All I can say now is: Let's do this! I think your message is clear. We have a ton of work to do, a short window in which to do it, and I fully understand I can't do it alone. We will need all hands on deck if Voat is to have any chance at survival.
I will post the plans I have for Voat as well as a status update on your contributions by Monday.
P.S. Old goats, be nice to the new kids. ;)
Original Post
As I sit here about to write one of the most difficult announcements yet, I was just reminded that my account is one month shy of three years old. Nearly three years ago I came here from Reddit when the vote counts disappeared and I felt I could no longer trust what I saw. Nearly three years ago I met @Atko and started contributing code because I believed in him, his mission, and what he was doing. So much has happened during these last three years.
I know a lot of you are new, but Voat has been through a wild ride, and never at any point was it an easy one. My memories are bittersweet when it comes to Voat. I’ve sacrificed the best years of my life for Voat, I’ve lost my business partner whom I miss a lot, I’ve lost people in my life, I’ve given up golf which was my passion, and even with all this I still believe in Voat. I still see the dire need for Free Speech in this world, I fear a world without it, and I still will do anything I can to continue providing it.
But alas, I am powerless to keep Voat running without financial support. As of right now Voat has no solid commitments. Voat has always needed a financial partner whom had balls of steel and backing deep enough to give Voat the capabilities to run as an actual business (being able to hire staff and set itself apart from its competitors), not just a one man show. Potential investors have one or the other of these traits, but we have yet to find one with both. In this day and age, this is Voat’s unicorn.
In the past Voat has been lucky enough to be part of special programs designed for startup companies which gave us free licensing on various products and significantly reduced hosting costs. These programs have since expired and we are now paying full costs. Last month was our first non-discounted month on Azure and the usage was $6,600.90 USD. Donations, ads, and merchandise only put a dent in this and this is the primary reason why we have not launched another merchandise run. And begging for donations was always something we hated doing.
I’m writing this announcement to prepare this community, and the Voat family, for the possibility of a closure. I’m not certain on timing and I have too much invested in this place to give up just yet, so I cannot provide any timelines. In the meantime, I will soon be scaling back all Voat’s servers by at least 50%. I will also turn off some features that are resource intensive.
Voat needs funding. Without it, Voat will be no more.
Voat needs an Angel
Canary
https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
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ilovepussy ago
@puttitout - I've made this proposal a couple of times in the past to both you and Atko, but alas, I never got a response. I will make this offer again. This time on your open post:
I have always agreed with your philosophy and the voat principles that are the foundation of what you have built.
As I stated in previous messages, I have no desire to change these fundamentals. My only goal is to provide material assistance with the hopes of being part of something bigger than the sum of the parts. Maybe, sometime in the future, there might be some tangible return on investment. Then again, if it is not in the cards, I would still consider it money well spent.
I would like to know what you see as your short and medium term goals. Is it to find sufficient funding to allow you to devote your full-time efforts to voat? Is it to have sufficient funding to cover hosting? Do you need development assistance, or other professional services? What I am really asking is; What are you looking for?
I want to help, and I have access to resources that could provide significant funding, and/or professional assistance.
If you are interested, please send me a PM, and I will provide hard contact information.
PuttItOut ago
Voat needs three things:
Ideally I was hoping for a one year investment to see how far we can get and then reassess at that time on any future commitment.
Serious inquiries can always be sent to [email protected]
jhaluska ago
You need to focus on cost reduction instead of scalability.
aztek ago
You have bigger problems.
You need an actual BUSINESS PLAN. Everything I've seen so far seems half assed. Good programmers don't always make good business people. Consider prioritizing someone who is willing to work out how to
You need to find backers who don't care that you host racist, homophobic, and general hate speech. I have long since stopped giving a shit about what people say or how they say it much like everyone else here, but let's face it. That's going to be very hard to sell. Most advertisers won't want anything to do with that. I don't think you can survive on donations alone - most people would probably kick in a few bucks but I don't think many will make regular contributions.
Solve the first two problems and all your other concerns mostly go away. I don't think you can solve the first two problems without significantly changing what makes Voat what it is. I'd be very surprised if Voat is around much longer.
Puttitout_Is_Fat ago
ilovepussy ago
I've sent you an email in response.
Donbuster ago
Putt. In regards to the scaleability issues, there is considerable technological know-how on this site. I'm currently in the process of herding some
catsgoats into looking at the existing git repo, and seeing if we can rebuild your stack in a manner that readies the site for moving off azure onto cheaper platforms. We would appreciate any insight you might have https://voat.co/v/SavingVoat/1866511Omnipresent ago
The git repository for this site? You mean this one? https://github.com/voat/voat
Donbuster ago
There is a more recent one
https://github.com/voat/voat/tree/Dev
but yes