Edit:
I'm simply blown away with you goats. I was expecting a somber farewell in this thread but instead you've done the exact opposite; pulled off a rally at the bottom of the 9th. On a personal note, and this may seem sentimental, but you have given me a new hope for Voat at very dark time for me.
All I can say now is: Let's do this! I think your message is clear. We have a ton of work to do, a short window in which to do it, and I fully understand I can't do it alone. We will need all hands on deck if Voat is to have any chance at survival.
I will post the plans I have for Voat as well as a status update on your contributions by Monday.
P.S. Old goats, be nice to the new kids. ;)
Original Post
As I sit here about to write one of the most difficult announcements yet, I was just reminded that my account is one month shy of three years old. Nearly three years ago I came here from Reddit when the vote counts disappeared and I felt I could no longer trust what I saw. Nearly three years ago I met @Atko and started contributing code because I believed in him, his mission, and what he was doing. So much has happened during these last three years.
I know a lot of you are new, but Voat has been through a wild ride, and never at any point was it an easy one. My memories are bittersweet when it comes to Voat. I’ve sacrificed the best years of my life for Voat, I’ve lost my business partner whom I miss a lot, I’ve lost people in my life, I’ve given up golf which was my passion, and even with all this I still believe in Voat. I still see the dire need for Free Speech in this world, I fear a world without it, and I still will do anything I can to continue providing it.
But alas, I am powerless to keep Voat running without financial support. As of right now Voat has no solid commitments. Voat has always needed a financial partner whom had balls of steel and backing deep enough to give Voat the capabilities to run as an actual business (being able to hire staff and set itself apart from its competitors), not just a one man show. Potential investors have one or the other of these traits, but we have yet to find one with both. In this day and age, this is Voat’s unicorn.
In the past Voat has been lucky enough to be part of special programs designed for startup companies which gave us free licensing on various products and significantly reduced hosting costs. These programs have since expired and we are now paying full costs. Last month was our first non-discounted month on Azure and the usage was $6,600.90 USD. Donations, ads, and merchandise only put a dent in this and this is the primary reason why we have not launched another merchandise run. And begging for donations was always something we hated doing.
I’m writing this announcement to prepare this community, and the Voat family, for the possibility of a closure. I’m not certain on timing and I have too much invested in this place to give up just yet, so I cannot provide any timelines. In the meantime, I will soon be scaling back all Voat’s servers by at least 50%. I will also turn off some features that are resource intensive.
Voat needs funding. Without it, Voat will be no more.
Voat needs an Angel
Canary
https://voat.co/v/announcements/1330806
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NeedleStack ago
Closure? WTF? Why not tell us sooner so we could pull together for a huge donation drive? Anyway, what's done is done.
Prepare for donations but please don't let it slip like this again.
Be transparent and regularly let us know what reserves you have and what you need to keep running.
Edit: Please email me regarding the crochet goat auction. We need to lock down logistics.
Mew222 ago
You're a gangster and I got your back. Someone's gotta be the voice of Truth on this planet. Please reply. I'm very much vested in this.
NeedleStack ago
Hi. Ah, well what I wrote in that comment was pretty much it. Putt's busy as we all know but hopefully he'll respond with some kind of business plan (or financial breakdown) soon enough. Welcome to voat!
babajee ago
+10 man!! Reddit was SO happy that voat is shutting down!! They linked to this and it was on the frontpage for a while. Retards didn't knew we LOVE VOAT. Everyone is not a Libetard.
Anything for free speech! Voat will live on!!
RedditisPropaganda25 ago
Also, please try cutting down costs. $5K/mo ?!
negerlove ago
(((voat)))
flor1dausa ago
I want Voat to succeed and will offer my advice:
Message the top 100 users of twitter and ask for help promoting the medium.
Create a Kickstarter campaign.
Be more open with the community and ask for advertising.
Reach out to The Donald and other large Reddit communities offering a new medium.
CanadianPatriot ago
I agree, time for the higher fucktioning autists to prepare weapons grade memes. best of luck to us all and god save the queen
TAThatBoomerang ago
You're kind of missing the point. Donations every now and then aren't enough to keep this website running. Voat needs a regular supply of cash.
mightnotbearobot ago
You fucking socialist
Tor1 ago
Puttler did nothing wrong.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-aCftF6bV02E/V6FZmPHV9GI/AAAAAAAA7Hc/w9wRK_mbxlocWc1Xz3p_8_OjocG_Ke2tQCL0B/Facebook-80b2dc.pngPNG
Mad_Dog91 ago
Yeah, if I knew the situation is this dire I'd even throw a few bucks
issueninja ago
I had no idea Voat needed money like RIGHT NOW. I think I donated $25 a while back, but never got any information that it was received.
I would be happy to kick in $100 or so, but not if hundreds of thousands are needed and $100 won't do any good.
Chiefpacman ago
I would gold this comment if I could.
@puttitout
weezkitty ago
Yeah. Why wasn't this announced BEFORE it happened
mirimar ago
I think what he is saying is that these measures are not enough or too hard to implement alone. What he really wants is a sugar daddy to end the funding nightmare.
llllIIIIllllIII ago
This. I've noticed a running theme with Voat. Late to upgrade their engine to handle traffic, late to ask for donations.
234234242 ago
come by discord, my dear old friend. i may share another picture of my kitty.
PhilaFerret ago
You're the best - crochet goat auction!
NeedleStack ago
Maaaaahhh!
PhilaFerret ago
Tease!
markrod420 ago
have you somehow been out of the loop on voat's funding issues? I thought it was pretty obvious voat is in need of funding. if I had any spare money I would be doing my best to help. that and if I believed that we have any real power left in this world. but sadly I think our power is basically limited to circle jerking on message boards.
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
Of course we still have real power in this world. If we didn't, the jews would control our entire media, our entire entertainment industry, be ridiculously over-represented in all branches of our government, and openly be calling for our people to be bred out of existence. And that would just be the tip of the iceberg...
Reed_Solomon ago
dang. All the way to the top.
Tsilent_Tsunami ago
(((iceberg)))!
markrod420 ago
yes... if we had no power all of those things would be happening... rofl.
etzefeck ago
Wait a second....
NeedleStack ago
No one had an inkling the state of finances were this dire. An earlier heads-up would have been helpful to prevent such straits.
Tor1 ago
This just happened.
It's the first bill at full price.
Donbuster ago
Exactly, I asked several times for additional transparency months ago, and got a decent amount of attention, but no response. I've donated myself several times, and as much as I don't want to see this place go, I feel at this point, seeing that nice big 6.6k a month number, that, unless I see actual progress towards financial stability. Money is tight, and I don't want to simply piss it away, seeing as that comes to nearly 10 bucks an hour to keep running. The ads, too, even if we filled up every day (and I can't remember the last time we had an ad buy), aren't nearly enough, seeing as for a full day of having your ad run, we get less than 3 hours of time.
Something needs to change. Either we need to get a sponsorship (which won't be all that appreciated by the voat community, though if we were able to get the attention of a free speech group like journalists without borders or the EFF, or a similar group, I imagine backlash would be minimal), or we need to dramatically reduce costs.
Even if we do cut costs, we still need a reliable source of funding. Much as I know many here hate the concept of price gating features, a "reddit gold" style of monetization might be highly effective. If, again, our costs at current capacity are $10 an hour, and it costs, lets say $3 to guild yourself or someone else, then we MIGHT be able to generate enough income.
As far as sponsorship shit goes, this is really the only thing I could find with an organization that aligns with Voat's beliefs in regards to free speech. https://rsf.org/en/supporting-media-outlets-and-ngos
We aren't a media outlet in and of ourselves, and this is CLEARLY more intended for those trying to publish accurate news in repressive countries, but its worth a shot. It seems likely that reporters without borders recognizes the need of free discourse on the internet, and the rate at which that discourse is disappearing.
Intheknow ago
Seems like ransom...A goat appeared on my desktop last week and said voat was now financially independent. Why then say its failing? Odd to me but hey, "you da boss".
markrod420 ago
I guess I just saw the previous cries for help. never saw any significant resolution to those cries, and assumed voat was still on the path to insolvency but perhaps at a slowed rate. admittedly a little warning about this before all the discounts and promos wore off may have been good.
0011011000111001 ago
I would totally buy one of your creations depending on the price. They're fucking sweet!
234134124123 ago
Is there a "gold" for Voat? If so, I'm happy to start dishing out a couple today. The only reason I never did gold on reddit was that I didn't want to give money to trash.
But I have gold to give here, for damn sure.
Gunfreak ago
Absolutely. I always loved the fact that r/The_Donald put in a lot of automods so we could give our fellow pedes coats to show appreciation instead of letting Reddit get our cash.
iciclebicycle ago
I've withheld giving Reddit gold for about two years now, as have all the new kids. We are ready to contribute to protect free speech. Please do your part to make it faster, easier, and fun. I've donated via credit card, but that was cumbersome. Awarding bitcoin on a post, maybe? And from I could see, there was a past issue with PayPal. Could you possibly resolve that? I'd say 'press the reset button', but I don't want to get suicided in the back of the head with a dumbbell.
234134124123 ago
IDK, I'm trying to figure out voat myself.
I'm a job and a paycheck away form donating some, but if it's going to be a constant stream of cash, it would be probably better with the "gold" deal..
Judge1972Holden ago
A lot of the new TD members feel this way. We would love to donate, but a Gold analog would also go far.
cousineerie ago
We can have a big gold circle jerk, and you guys can shoot your gold right into my mouth. Cool?
Judge1972Holden ago
If that somehow contributes more to the site hosting us...sure, I guess....
Rotteuxx ago
Hell, get me a .DWG of the logo and I'll have laser cut stainless steel keychains & scaled statuettes for sale, 100% profit to Voat.
@Puttitout :)
Gunfreak ago
Think you could laser cut me a stainless steel front license plate?
Rotteuxx ago
Anything is possible rly... although I don’t really want to do business through Voat nor doxx myself by doing business with new Voaters outside of Voat.
Fuck__Reddit ago
I'd buy 2 or 3.
MagaTron ago
Maybe I can make one, what do you need like a 3D model?
Rotteuxx ago
Thx for the offer, I've been working on it with /u/hell since yesterday and pricing is started too.
I'll keep it in mind though.
z_impaler ago
Could I suggest doing same logo (just maybe a little larger) and putting an adhesive back on it so it could go on my vehicle??
Rotteuxx ago
Love the idea !
Deathstalker ago
I can do this. I can make .dwg or .dxf
Phivex ago
Another sell right here.
autexousious ago
made a quick dwg for you. Not sure what kind of topology you're looking for, can change it if needed. Not sure what this file sharing site is, but it says this should be available for 30 days, until i reupload it. https://ufile.io/jknvh
Rotteuxx ago
@Hell was gonna give it a go, whoever has the most free time go ahead & have fun.
As for the drawing (me no cad draw), it needs a frame & stencil like bars for the "o", basically a 2d dwg of a plate with cut out letters & hole for keyring (protruding in a lobe maybe or on corner ?).
I was thinking the goats head or whole goat maybe as a desk trinket, could be sweet.
autexousious ago
Ah, I'm sorry, my mind's been stuck on 3d printing. I'm not familiar with the requirements you're talking about, will look into it tomorrow if I have time.
AliveInTheFuture ago
Who would want to be identified as a bigot in public? A MAGA hat would go nicely with the keychains.
Rotteuxx ago
A bigot ? I though we were Nazis...
Brain activating
"NiggerFaggot" keychains !
HarveyHarveyJones ago
Sign me up. Keychains all the way!
9141747? ago
...................Ahem. Dildoes? Asking for @Trigglypuff.
Rotteuxx ago
Now this is something to look into !
Heck, why not a modular design you can assemble/modify to fit your mood. The R&D could be... intensive ,)
Cyclops winky is copyrighted fyi
guinness2 ago
Sometimes I get so angry that I can't see... so your modular design needed accommodate that mood.
9142308? ago
Ha, but is for Triggles. (: what's r&d?
(,
Rotteuxx ago
The most important part, research & development •)
artfullyours ago
I'd love a keychain!
scrimmmy ago
I may have materials to donate. I might be mistaken, but I think I have some 321 left over.
scrimmmy ago
Ill take one.
Rotteuxx ago
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scrimmmy ago
Best customer service ever.
digitalentity1497 ago
You already sold one!
Rotteuxx ago
A life sized stainless steel VoatGoat ?
Sweet, couldn't wait for someone to finance that !
digitalentity1497 ago
I meant the key chain....lol
Hell ago
I'm on it boss.
Rotteuxx ago
Sweet, I could do pricing within a few hours of getting that :)
SeanBox ago
Read his username and then re-read your last comment.
Rotteuxx ago
Kek
Hell ago
But seriously, I worked it AutoCAD for about 12 years so I can whip something up.
Edit: Anyone got a good link to the logo? Could probably do the goat, too.
Rotteuxx ago
Check the links at the bottom of the page, I think it might be in there
Hell ago
Cheers, I'll check it out.
OzarkMountainMan ago
An auction of a stainless guitar? You did that.
Deplorable_Me ago
Stainless Guitar? Gimme that!
Rotteuxx ago
https://imgtc.com/a/eQsSQgkWxW
http://m.imgur.com/a/WFa4tImgur Album
I have 2 more albums but they were on sli.mg, I'll repost them at some point... one of those is a 12 string
8non ago
Managed to get a copy via clipconverter - http://www.clipconverter.cc/download/u4V0K3TV/0/
Sounds nice though I mainly play an electric (MX HSS Strat).
Rotteuxx ago
Thx ! Most people expect a Dobro sound or something like a tin can with strings. I always enjoy peoples reaction when they play on one.
Lemongarb ago
How does it sound? Is there a way I can hear it?
Rotteuxx ago
There's a link to a short video in the first album, last line of the album description. Just an open string strum, I ain't good enough a player to record myself & post it.
Deplorable_Me ago
From deep in Godin country. I am humbled by your talent and skill sir.
Rotteuxx ago
I appreciate your kind words, thank you
Rotteuxx ago
Yes, that is a definite possibility !
Pretty sure I have all the materials on hand except for a few trinkets.
Reddit_traitor ago
this ^^^. we could have went full pbs donation drive with this. I'm going to donate some bitcoin as soon i find where i stored my wallet. i don't want my personal info here.
Cynabuns ago
Bitcoin link is dead but I've read you can head to a store and buy-and-load money on a disposable Visa or MasterCard. I've messaged Putts to check on this though.Edited to strike and update that PuttitOut has updated the bitcoin link on the front page!
RedPillEh ago
Why is the bitcoin link dead? I would donate bitcoin.
I would prefer to donate ether.
Cynabuns ago
I just updated my comment... Putts update the bitcoin link after my comment yesterday so what you see is now current.
cynicaloldfart ago
I asked him about that before, and he didn't seem like that was a viable option. Hope he can find a non-bitcoin option as I think it would generate a lot of funding. I'm more than wanting to donate, but I won't start bit-coining and don't want my info exposed. There has to be a way. Put on the thinking cap Putt.
Cynabuns ago
Hey if you happen to try that disposable credit card option, will you let me know how that works, send me a PM if you would. If it works well enough, I can ask PuttitOut to write something up like this for other Voaters.
9141744? ago
Have you seen Empress's thread yet? Probably have. Someone else made one as well. Both tried the pre-paid credit cards and both confirmed it works.
Cynabuns ago
I got the ping and I did see Empress' thread - thanks for following up :)
heretolearn ago
is there a link for donations.
Cynabuns ago
Go to the bottom of every page on the site and click "donate" or click this copy-pasta: https://store.voat.co/donations :)
heretolearn ago
Thank you.
cynicaloldfart ago
I can't find it, but in a previous sticky I asked him about this and he said it just couldn't be done. He gave some reasons why that I didn't really understand but the gist was it just wouldn't work. I think it was because it would dox him and/or his location if he did it. I'd do it in a heartbeat if he can come up with any way to anon send money. Here's hoping there's a way.
HashTagFU ago
Monero is anonymous. Buy bitcoin, convert to monero, send to voat account. Full disclosure : I have some monero.
cynicaloldfart ago
The whole point of my comment was a NON-bc, anon way to donate. But thanks.
HashTagFU ago
You can't stay tech ignorant anymore if you want to live in the 21st century. Getting BC isn't that hard. Sign up for an account on coinbase, transfer some cash and buy bitcoin. Tain't that hard.
cynicaloldfart ago
You do you, I'm just fine, thank you.
HashTagFU ago
Not really. You've expressed interest in an anonymous means of donating but don't have a solution.
Here's an idea: Put cash in an envelope and mail it to Putt. The pony express will deliver it in mere weeks iffa they can travel as the crow flies.
cynicaloldfart ago
Wrong, buddy. Another goat came through, instead of just whining and trying to feel superior.
https://voat.co/v/whatever/1866405
HashTagFU ago
I'm not your buddy, pal. And I wasn't trying to feel superior. I clearly am superior. Putz.
cynicaloldfart ago
But still wrong.
HashTagFU ago
Yes, give $4.00 to a credit card company for the privilege of donating $5 to voat. Haha. Seems yain't too good with them maths grandpa.