I was alerted to his activities by @dooob here. The subject-matter is this image of what appears to be Obama dressed as Moloch. It seems OWi (Oh_Well_ian) really feels strongly on the subject.
It's SHOPPED. Look at the black collar of the Obama proof below the Moloch pic.
In the second sentence, OWi links to Reddit directly, but I've archived it for you, and also will provide you a direct link to the image he was directing you to.
Notice how the angle of the collar is on the same line and corners at the same point. Could he be wearing the identical fleece? Possible. But if he is, what explains the vertical collar of the fleece covering the necklace on the costume? That entire area looks stamped ( a blending feature on Photoshop I have used extensively ), as well.
Notice how he begs the question that there even IS a collar, and that it's not shadow or something else. Notice how he continues on as if the collar question is completely settled.
Notice how even if it IS the same collar, he acts like he knows what that necklace is supposed to look like. Do you know what it's supposed to look like? I don't. Hell, is that even a necklace? Maybe.
The timing is highly suspicious, given the release of the IG report on the same day and come on...
Relevant.
It popped up on Reddit o_0 -- Does anyone think Obama in a Moloch outfit in front of a crowd ends up on Instagram and stays there for a year and a half?? lol
Like all those instagrams with PG-related stuff that had been up forever? Nah... couldn't possibly happen, right?
And so what if it popped up on Reddit? It's not the best source, but is he saying there aren't people there that legitimately want to expose these sick fucks, so no lead could possibly originate from that site?
And why is it that the very next link provided shows a second tweet with a screenshot of an 8ch post dated 2 days before the Reddit one?
Look again at another 'PROOF' on Twitter. The person that allegedly snapped the pic got access to Obama in a Moloch outfit, but could not get any closer than the fence at the White House while in DC? hahaha! Look at the flaky bitch ! o_0
Linked again for convenience.
Where was the person that snapped the pic mentioned the link? Why didn't he link directly to that information?
Why is it that the most important part of what is being claimed by OWi here is missing from the direct link?
Now look at the Qanon post in the 'PROOF'.. THERE IS NO TRIP CODE that means IT'S NOT Q ( no outside comms, ever! )
Is this another thing not linked to? What Qanon 'PROOF' post is being referred to here? Why is this user acting like we can either read minds, or won't ask questions?
Don't accept these lazy and sensational fakes. They are poison pills and an effort to destroy the real evidence about Obama.
To my mind, this post was either extremely lazy, or exactly what this user is warning us against.
There is no silver bullet to taking down the Cabal, and if there is, this shit ain't it.
Who was expecting this to be a silver bullet? Why even assume such a thing?
I felt I did more than a sufficient job on the first debunk, but since the SHOPPED Moloch Pic of Obama still sits on the front page of v/pizzagate and has been posted in v/news and v/whatever and v/politics, to great brigading upvoating by dopy users and fake accounts, it has become obvious that it needs a second beat down.
That's what OWi considers sufficient? Note the mockery of goats upvoting the image.
( Edit: Upon evaluating this submission, @Vindicator has put a <debunked> flair on the Obama/Moloch thread in PG. Thanks, Vindicator for looking out for the integrity of v/pizzagate !! )
The support of a mod, any mod, does not lend any more legitimacy to your position.
The date of the alleged photo was a very important one. It was the day of President Trump's inauguration or January 20, 2017
I'm sure OWi meant, "The date of the alleged photo being uploaded to instagram." Somehow I'm not terribly confident in that, though.
The claimed origin of this photo is this account on Instagram[NSFW] and there has been many 'proofs' confirming she is the original source.
... though OWi chooses not to present any of those proofs.
The date was attached to the photo, but has been deleted because she claims she is being harassed.
Another thing we cannot confirm.
She is a proud Witch and an Obama disciple with many eerie photos in her account that indicate occult ties and practices.
The images are pretty degenerate.
These posts have been used to confirm the Obama Moloch Deep Fake by the Shills, and tie the two of them together in the secret cult
One post linked, despite the plural word suggesting more. Note OWi calling the user in linked submission a shill, yet the user edited to claim that he now thinks the photo fake, and gave what appear to be very weak reasons for doing so.
The photo is implying that while Trump was being sworn in, Obama was dressing up in Moloch costume and performing some Satanic ritual to counter Trump's mojo with his favorite evil spirits.
All we have confirmed is the date it was uploaded to that Instagram, not the date the photo was taken. Why act as if the Instagram date must be also the date of the photo?
This would have been problematic, considering Obama was actually attending the inauguration in Washington DC. Since that theory is now dead, maybe he did it after the inauguration. Where did Obama head after the festivities in The Capitol?
It would be. Would.
He went straight to Andrews AFB to give a speech to his loyal lackeys.
Just continuing on like nobody would ask questions, again.
Since Moloch Obama did not perform his ritual during or immediately after the inauguration, it must have been later that night in Chicago, like the proof implies, given the 'Chicago' jacket being worn by Arthur Davis. But that would have been impossible, because Obama was not in Chicago the night of the inauguration, he was in PALM SPRINGS.
MUST it have been? Impossible, you say? Why does this user continue on as if the date of the photo was confirmed to be 01/20/2017?
Obama's Presidential schedule for 1/20/2017 is right here. As you can clearly see, he departed for Palm Springs, CA at 1:40 EST.
He doesn't stop. He just doesn't stop.
Obama's journey to Palm Springs ( Rancho Mirage ) was delayed significantly by heavy rain, and after circling the airport twice for a total of 40 minutes, his flight was diverted to March Reserve Air Force Base in Riverside at 5:45 PST, two hours after scheduled touchdown in Palm Springs. HOLY CRAP, HE BETTER GET MOVING OR HE IS GOING TO MISS THE MOLOCH CEREMONY !!!!
If you say it enough, it becomes true, right? Or rather, if you beg the question enough, nobody will ask it.
Part 2
ESOTERICshade ago
@crensch I am behind you 100% on this situation. You and I disagree sometimes but I think both of us want the best for v/pizzagate. @Oh_Well_ian is a bad element and thank you for noticing. I don't know if he is just an idiot or a paid government contractor. We will never know but I support your thoughts on this matter.
BillyBobBoJangles ago
He struck me as a troll more than a shill. I would have gone on with him, but it was pretty obvious from the start that he just wanted drama.
Crensch ago
His intent seems to be very in-line with that of a shill. I don't think treating him any differently either way is warranted.
ESOTERICshade ago
I up vote that. Thank you for noticing :)
TrendyCantina ago
Because one fricking picture reiterating what we already knew is worth ALL OF EFFORT?
Does anyone here think Obama is some nice christian and is one of the elites who actually DOESN'T take part in satanic rituals? NO. The White House already dressed him up like Baphomet and posted it on all mainstream media.
Quit wasting people's time. There are children being held in cages like prisoners at WalMart, for one thing.
What the hell good would it do to prove this was a real photo? Hm? What would it change? Would anyone go to jail? Would we save any children? NO.
Crensch ago
No, but one user that constantly posts, attacks other users, and lies about a photo IS.
No. Does anyone here think OWi tells the truth, or is a photoshop expert as he claims? Does anyone here think it might be worth keeping an eye on him as a possible shill is a waste of time now?
Emotional argument trying to persuade people to not look into a username that very obviously has a narrative to hide. You might want to reconsider your position here.
I've said elsewhere, I don't give a shit about the photo. This user lying about it, however, is kinda big. Especially when he seems to subscribe to the "baffle them with bullshit" philosophy.
Your response is odd to me. Why are you trying to protect OWi here? He could protect himself by answering the questions in part 2, but he hasn't done so.
TrendyCantina ago
Your accusation that i am protecting anyone is odd to me.
Just drop it. The only time an individual deserves this much attention from Pizzagate researchers is when that individual has tremendous sway over the dialogue/direction here. In my opinion, that would include people like Craig Sawyer, George Webb, Alex Jones, and anyone with a lot of sway or a large audience. I don't think any user here, besides James Alefantis, is worthy of this much energy There ARE better things to focus on.
Crensch ago
tl;dr
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Crensch ago
Really? You're calling all of this a waste of time, then talking about prisoners in a wal-mart, while I'm showing people how OWi is at the very least a very lazy, stupid user that should not be taken seriously.
OWi is constantly posting and harassing users. I'd say that's enough. Do you get to determine where the line is? What about you telling me to, "Quit wasting people's time." ?
This user scares away a LOT of users with this attacks. Maybe if the users here aren't important, you shouldn't concern yourself when one of them is called out for being stupid? Maybe it's not important enough for you to comment on in the first place?
I don't think there are. I could get rid of a prolific disinfo shill that posts at all hours of the day, nearly every day, and harasses users constantly with very little effort.
And the above took very little effort.
The fact that you're so vehemently trying to shame me into focusing on something else is entirely suspect. Anyone reading this would agree, I think.
Quicktor ago
Still looks like Bathhouse Barry to me....
BigFatDaddy ago
Why is this guy trying so hard to deny Obama is a devil worshipper?
darkknight111 ago
Since it was me who first shared that image here on voat (to my knowledge), I am possibly the root cause of all this. Gonna give my account on the situation. Link below contains the thread that showed the image.
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2592596
I posted this thread on Wednesday afternoon IIRC. I posted the thread after the results of some intel sharing bore some major fruit.
The date of the IG report was on Thursday, a day AFTER my thread, meaning the "distract from the IG report" theory doesn't make any sense.
I even asked if this pic was real. Note that the data dump was from a bunch of instagram accounts.
I'm not proficient in image editing software, so I'm not sure if said image is real. However, given the disturbing imagry in those instagram accounts, that pic is suspiscious.
Crensch ago
I appreciate your input.
This whole submission isn't about whether the photo is real, it's about odd behaviour from OWi, and now about a few in the comments that seem to want to sweep all of this under the rug.
TrendyCantina ago
Don't feel bad. We just need to move on to more important matters.
Crensch ago
Pinging mods of relevant subverses that were not previously pinged:
@kevdude @think- @Honeybee_
Please keep an eye on this user. I'm of the mind that he might not be legitimate.
MolochHunter ago
You know what?
I dont care about the picture of Obama and whether its him or not or fake or not
if you twits are going to use it to savage each other and be divisive you can count me the fuck out
The only true Shill is someone who says Pizzagate in its entirity is bullshit
if you have people who spend hours of their lives every week investigating & raising awareness for pizzagate then hey- if they dont agree with your assessment of the evidence
dont be a jerk about it.
Dismal_Swamp ago
Obama has done far worse shit than dance around in drag with his queer friends. Far worse shit that we all already know about. Proving that he dresses in drag is not going to get him locked up although I would like to know what the fuck is going on in that pic if it's is Obama.
Crensch ago
Neither do I. My issue was with this user lying.
Yes, let's just let someone very obviously acting in bad faith continue, because calling someone out is "being divisive".
Not the ones that post that claims something is debunked then provides no valid reasoning or sources? I question your integrity if disinfo shills aren't on your list of "true" shills.
There was no evidence. OWi made claims and caused a lot of people to believe him when he had no real basis for doing so. It suggests to me, and probably to others, that he does this elsewhere, as well. But let's excuse him because he's "raising awareness"?
Maybe you should take some time to read through his comments in the "debunked" threads here. I posit that anything I had to say was G rated compared to his words towards other users.
In fact, this OWi is known for harassing other users pretty constantly. Maybe you should re-evaluate your comment and position here?
Crensch ago
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Crensch ago
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Sorry, please see parent, then OP. Thank you.
Crensch ago
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urbanmoving ago
could care less he "debunked nothing" I checked the photo source its degen who posted it who was the event ELA is good its not "photoshopped" like he claimed
KinkRaven ago
Thanks for the heads up.
I still think the imagine is a false flag set up to follow where the information flows.
Obama and crew are guilty as fuck, this image though makes it easy to paint us as crazy idiots.
Just be careful, keep digging and building up the Intel.
They are not going to go gently into the night.
Crensch ago
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carmencita ago
Oh, I am well aware. At this point I have decided I have had enough of this. This seems to be turning into a slamming of OWI instead of finding the truth about the picture. I am wondering if this picture is being pushed to discredit us, if it IS shopped and we decide it is real. This is turning into a Witch Hunt and I don't want to be a part of it. Before this becomes a Hair On Fire situation it needs to be Doused.
Crensch ago
That's exactly what it is. Did you read Part 2? If not, you should. At least the edit at the end.
I didn't post this to prove the picture one way or the other, I posted this to show OWi to be lying, at the very least.
A witch hunt? Read my words and come to your conclusion. I'm not hunting anything but lies and deceptions. I STILL can't comment on the image, but I CAN ask OWi to prove he's not lying by walking us through how he finds out if something is shopped or not.
His posts were textbook COINTEL. If you want to ignore this kind of thing, that's fine, but disinfo shills exist, and ignoring them isn't doing anyone any favors.
carmencita ago
I am not going to be branded as someone that is OK with shills. Each post has been about OWI and not just the photo. I am no longer in this am in the middle of researching.
Crensch ago
Yes. OWi. Who is likely a disinfo shill that your fellow users are likely to accept as legitimate if users like you don't call him out.
On only one subject I was able to show him completely and utterly wrong at every level, and since this is the first time I can recall that I've even paid attention to him as a user, that's really saying something.
Since you seem intent on pretending not to care, I'll tell you what it's saying:
It's saying that he likely does this far more often, on many other subjects.
Then don't act like it. Part of research is ruthlessly cutting off leads and information that is bad or false, and those that provide it.
MadWorld ago
Not just discrediting the PG researchers, I think this would bring many other pictures into question and create doubt, regarding the authenticity of those pictures. And when that doubt is rooted, you might be spending more of your time looking into the past research and not moving forward.
carmencita ago
Exactly. We have shills on here all the time posting things to distract us from a very important post. Then these pics as you say will be popping up all the time. No this must be cut off now. It has gone on long enough. We all know it is true, we don't need another picture to verify it.
SterlingJB ago
Actually deleted my comment there. Not because I disagree with OWi, which is interesting (seems like the same pic used in infographic to show what obama would like with mask is the same pic that was used for original images), but the controversy over it is weird so I'm bowing out.
Crensch ago
Please check at least the edit in part 2. OWi is invited to show his work and prove his claim of being a photoshop expert.
SterlingJB ago
I read it. Still think feel the same about the photo but cld be wrong. Defs kinda weird how hard OWi's pushing this (and everyone really on all sides; seems inconsequential even if true but cld be wrong on that too). +1 tho for the correct usage of "begging the question". Hardly ever see the original meaning of this phrase.
Crensch ago
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Crensch ago
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Crensch ago
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Reddit_traitor ago
thanks for the ping
Crensch ago
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LightlyToasted ago
I watched the image break on 8chan. I think attacking the timeframe is fair, but that is an open question for the Anons the other night. I am not 100% sold yet, as it seems like an incredible risk for BO to take. However, I am keeping my mind open.
Crensch ago
Nothing he linked to suggested that the instagram posting day had anything to do with the date the image was taken. Also, please see my edit in part 2.
Dismal_Swamp ago
Without EXIF data on the picture in question who knows when it was taken. Could of been a year ago and uploaded to Instagram on the day of the inauguration.
Crensch ago
Exactly.
Crensch ago
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Crensch ago
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Rotteuxx ago
Thx for the ping, need coffee bfr re-reading all this.
Crensch ago
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Gothamgirl ago
Thank you for sharing.
Crensch ago
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Ronin3000 ago
Thank you
13060637? ago
Lols ur a jew
Rotteuxx ago
You should see @oh_well_ian cry out in pain as he strikes any opponents to his beliefs.
Crensch ago
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Enigmatic_Continuum ago
I myself don't have the expertise to debunk nor authenticate images. That being said, I wanted the photo to be real, but it seemed too good to be true, so when Oh_Well_ian offered his debunk, I was satisfied. Why?
1) The person who owns the Instagram account does indeed claim she's a witch, but there's no other ritualistic photos featured on her account
2) There are no political figures featured on her account, and I would think she would've featured some sort of love for Hillary if she was at an Obama Moloch costume party or ceremony. I've featured more than one thread documenting those promoting satanic imagery AND a love of Hillary. ex. My Wicked Clothes thread
3) Considering the authentic images I've seen of satanic rituals and costume balls, the dude in the Chicago jacket doesn't fit in here.
4) There's nothing to prove that the Instagram account owner wasn't experimenting with manipulating photos, creating this, and took a photo of it and posted this 2nd generation photo to her IG account, which explains why it's not as high quality.
So, with all of this being said, I was quick to accept a debunking because it seemed strange to me anyway given the above reasoning. The bottom line is that I don't care if it's real or not. It's received the attention it deserves and I hope it makes it to other platforms where people believe that none of this matters. The fact of the matter is, is that our elite are indeed involved with occult rituals and costume galas that include creepy ass stuff, so even if this isn't evidence of such activities, it will get people talking about and questioning the leaders they consider to be behaving with honor and integrity.
This is just the beginning of what's going to happen with every photo and video that's going to be brought forth, so everyone should consider this situation to be good practice.
Crensch ago
This post wasn't about the photo. It was about OWi not putting in the work to actually prove the image false.
Please check at least the edit in part 2. OWi is invited to show his work and prove his claim of being a photoshop expert.
carmencita ago
Right. This will set the pace for every photo and it seems to me that it could be the reason all this is being stirred up. That is why it needs to stop now.
anotherdream ago
I agree with these statements. It's become very divisive. I couldn't figure out why I was even pinged. OWi has made it know on several occasions he things I'm some kind of "concern troll" or shill or whatever. Not sure about the photo. I'm of the mind that it very well could be real, and that it very well could be a fake. It wouldn't change much about #pizzagate or the Great Awakening if either were true. That being said, we definitely can't let this type of thing stop everybody in their tracks. i.e. Everybody turning on each other every time a sketchy photo comes down the pike. I mean, I believe that there will be some super heavy hitting shit coming down the pike soon, and we'd all better drink a tall glass of FTB followed by teaspoon of WTFU and GFR.
carmencita ago
Highly agree. We have already spent too much time. Those on both sides that keep this alive can keep on going, I for one will no longer be involved. Too much work to do on Chicago's Missing Children. I researched months on St Louis including their Missing Children and now we realize there are even more in Chicago. And all over the country. That is what this is all about. We already know the Cabal is involved in Luciferianism so it is a mute point. As I said before, this has at least made Newbies look up info regarding Obama and Moloch. But now, enough is enough.
whereisthemountain ago
Oh yes, I know all about him and his 50 accounts.
MadWorld ago
Could you PM me his alt accounts? I would like to compare his comments if possible. Thanks!
Crensch ago
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