Everybody here got kicked out of other place. The nazis, the crazy conspiracy theorists, the lolicons...
These ideas weren't tested, they were banned. Nobody wants to hear your anti-semitism, nobody wants to hear about your crazy pizza system, and nobody wants to hear people like me about how these stupid drawings aren't real. Fuck Poal.
@Crensch, you don't have evidence, videos, sources, arguments or videos. You have a barely linked group of facts you all blame on the BIG JEWISH CABAL. Bunch of bullshit. Rich people form groups between themselves jackass, just like your Donald Trump is friends with Vince McMahon.
I just hope your stupid bullshit don't makes who gives this site a server down in the abyss.
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Triceratography ago
Right, he's the problem.
Most people either don't mind crensch or like him. He will make an effort to have an honest debate with people, though he does have a bad tendency to make 6 million different points in one post. Maybe that's an exaggeration and he only makes 275,000 points in one post, either way it is too many to completely address all of them.
You, on the other hand, are probably competing with henrycorp for the title of "most likely to be mentioned as voat cancer"
Also, I was never banned at another board.
FrozenFire74 ago
I have yet to get an honest debate to this post, which he asked for. All I've gotten were his downvoats.
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ExpertShitposter ago
I've skimmed through 10% of it and I'll give you a quick answer in a few sentences:
Not all jews and niggers are bad, but most of them are. So many, that its not worth taking on the damage that these people can create, just to hold on to some principle of individualism. And you don't have to be a rich 1%er banker jew to be a self serving prick that breaks the cohesion of society.
Not all whites are good, but mos't of them are. And many of the bad ones can be "red pilled", not so the case with others. Niggers are too dumb, and jews know exactly what is good and what is bad, and what works and what doesn't, they just don't care about the damage unless it affects them personally. Whites are like the annoying uncle for who you sometimes wish he wouldn't show up at the family gathering, but you still love him because he is your blood.
White 1%ers are the same scum, but take a look at how many of those people are jewish, and then compare that to their tiny population. And behind every white 1%er, there are jewish backers. And no, its not the "ashkenazi IQ". It was proven that their IQ, while higher that the average for whites, was not as high as they claim. Where don't the Asians own all the banks and media? Why don't the Asians have 3000% overrepresenation in the US government?
But finally and ultimately...............:::::::::::::::::
ETHNO NATIONALISM IS A BIRTHRIGHT.
I find it MIND BOGGLING that it is illegal to enact a white ethnostate. If a particular US country that is say, 90% white, had a referendum to enact a white only policy, and it passed with 90% in favor, 10% against.....it would still be ILLEGAL to do it. Whites are the only people on the planet that have no place they can declare a white only zone.
You can build a house, and say that no blacks can enter your house, and that is ok, but if you then convert a single room to an office and start a one man company, it is suddenly ILLEGAL for you to refuse hiring a black person. That is MIND BOGGLING. And it is in fact one step away from being illegal to refuse to date a black woman and make mud babies. And yes, those kind of laws have already been suggested by various SJW's.
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Crensch ago
Fucking well said.
FrozenFire74 ago
We agree on most of what you say here, but I would state that some blacks have proven their worth to humanity and should be respected for it.
I also agree that there are a disproportionate number of Jews that are a part of the problem in this world, and these Jews have caused far more harm than what the Nazis were ever accused of doing. I will say that Jews that call bullshit on the kiniving Ashkenazi are an ally in my book. People who value the human race over their religious creed are not the threat we face right now. The control the Cabal has over this planet is a threat to everyone, and will require more than red pulled whites to overthrow.
And I also agree that if whites want an ethno state, they should have it. Forced integration was never the solution to Race issues. Malcom X respected David Duke for stating that people of the respective races should have the right to live with their own people.
ExpertShitposter ago
Yes but.....meritocracy it self is under attack even when it comes to respecting all laws and hiring "the best" people regardless of color. It is now openly claimed that meritocracy is fascist because women aren't as strong as men, and African migrants didn't get a chance to go to college, and that you should in fact hire these people knowing full well they will do a worst job. Because otherwise, you are CIS scum that perpetuates inequality.
So with that kind of mentality garbing a foothold, where are we from having a standard of immigration where it would be legally and openly acceptable to declare that "all blacks without an IQ of at least "x" can't immigrate". And IQ is the only factor you can easily measure, and its the least important one. How will you measure who is lazy and who is a hard worker? How will you measure who will become violent down the road? How will you measure general societal cohesiveness?
Further more, if you had a magical scanner that can determine all these factors, every time you take in a smart and moral person into your country, you leave Africa dumber and dumber. All those who could fix the place...you just steal away, leaving the place to be landfill for defective humans who can't improve anything.
Sure, all the shadow governments are the problem. But what is the solution then? Freedom oriented, anti government sentiment, drilled into peoples heads? Well you have one problem with that. Anti-establishment rebellion is kind of a white thing. Because non whites just keep voting for more big government and more socialist rule-set witch they abuse. If you haven't red pilled them on that issue in the last 100 years, then i don't know why anyone thinks it can be done any time soon. They are simply 300 years behind us in evolution. And i don't think we owe it to them to sacrifice our selves until they figure it out. And since they beat you in the womb wars.....you can see how badly democracy fails in such non-cohesive society.
One more note on the ethno state. The ethno state is NOT a state for ALL white people. Its only for whites who would chose to live in it. Obviously it would be stupid to force whites who think racemixing is cool, into what they would see as prison state, and no white nationalist would want to live with white SJW's ether. And while its not a simple thing to implement peacefully from a logistical standpoint, it's far from impossible. And the a new set of problems such a state would create are far from unsolvable. We are after all, driving little cars on the surface of mars.
FrozenFire74 ago
I'm assuming you're white, so forgive me if I got that wrong about you. I have a feeling you know what real meritocracy is, and can determine who the good blacks are that actually see what's happening to this world and are resisting it just as much as you. As for any laws that could be passed, I suspect open conflict will occur before we start to turn towards the route of an ethnostate, and if we do get to take that route, then we will start to put in place merit based Visa systems for non whites that want to come to our communities. Of course, that's only if we ever get to have ethnostates the ways that most races have their chances. Whitey will have ites day again I suspect, unless we all roll over for the Jews that are trying to destroy us.
If we ever do get our ethnostate, it will come from an open revolt with many of the established European governments as well as the United States, unless we're all going to defect to Russia that is.
On an anecdotal side note, one of my best friends is a redditor pulled black dude who loves to red pill everyone on the Jewish problem and believes that people should have the right to live in ethnostates. Forced Integration was a blight on this country in his eyes, and hurt his people just as much as it did whites. Black communities that were actually integrating where accepted before the CRA of 64 had blacks who were proud to be Americans long before the government told them to move into the deep south. Of course all that history teaches us is that the US was raysis and no white person treated blacks as decent human beings until MLK came along. Also, he hates MLK interesting enough.
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Triceratography ago
You're getting downvoted because you aren't even making real points. You're strawmanning, but I'll be charitable and address a couple. I am not a member of the groups I will attempt to speak for below, but I might be even more annoyed with you than they are.
"Not every jew is part of a cabal"
Even the people who believe in a Jewish cabal don't believe this. I mean really, you think anyone believes the guy selling bagels tells the president what to do? Come on.
"White people can be niggers"
No, that word has a specific meaning which we all still agree on. Go walk around yelling it in Harlem if you don't believe me. "Well really my point was not every black guy wears his pants around his ankles and some white people do." I am sure than even avowed racists understand this, but it does not even begin to make an argument against the various reasons white nationalists have for their convictions.
"Blue haired feminists are bad but feminists are good because women need equality"
Women already have more than equality. Preferential hiring, more pay for the same work (adjust for things like number of hours and all that), lower jail sentences if any for real crimes, the ability to destroy any male enemy with a lie... The goals of feminism were more than achieved long ago.
Nobody is still "fighting for equality" except maybe, I guess, those MRA guys. Anyone taking up the feminist label today, since the fight for equality is over, by definition must not be fighting for equality.
Crensch ago
I haven't had the desire to deal with him how I normally deal with dishonest, cockmuching faggots like him, so your succinct comment here is something I am thankful for.
FrozenFire74 ago
I don't think you speak for everyone who believes in the Jewish Cabal, And Crensh is in that same category
Any race can be a Nigger. It has roots and definition as meaning an ignorant and uneducated person. Whites called slaves niggers since they were not educated. The real "niggers" are the ones who think words that sound like it but have totally different meanings are the same or are offended (out of ignorance), such as niggardly, or those who say it's okay for one group of people to say it but not others (double-standard), or not knowing that other nationalities were considered niggers originally, not Africans exclusively. There are a lot of people who fall into the category of Niggers in this day and age, as we live among blue haired feminist, Black and white supremacists, etc.
Don't put words in my mouth, that very uncouth of you.
90% of that I agree with, but women in African and Muslim cultures still have a lot of problems that need to be addressed. Unless you believe that any non-white collection of people need to suffer because of their wrong color skin... Like Crensh
Regardless of all that, my point was that this Good Man Crensh called me out to prove my points, and I gave him that response, and he never returned the favor. He did, however, take the time to make a submission to v/whatever to have people come and view what I wrote, which is a rather shitty move on his part. He can't be bothered to respond, but he can be bothered to call in people to downvoat.
Triceratography ago
Yeah well in ancient sanskrit, nigger meant... NOBODY CARES. That's not how language works. I bet you'd also try to argue gender isn't binary, despite what it meant during nigger-times. Every part of society, the legal system, everything disagrees with you about the meaning of that word. You're just being an asshole and it's not even worth debating.
I'm sorry if you felt reducing your wall of text to a facetious point about pants was unfair. You'll just have to take my word that I'm really not attempting to strawman you back as much as I am trying to point out why your arguments aren't taken seriously. Maybe that accidental example will be more illustrative than anything I can say.
My point in response to the portion I mocked still stands, which is you really haven't addressed any reasons, many of them very real, that people adopt WN ideology.
If you were less of a tremendous faggot in your initial approach, I'm sure at least some of them would be happy to discuss it. I think it's impractical, so I'm not the one to argue with. Maybe you could make a real effort to understand their reasons rather than "I went to marxism class and they said you are bad, let me tell you why you are bad".
Yes, I know I'm being harsh with you again, but you are giving quintessential marxist and moral relativist answers. It's clear to anyone that you haven't put serious thought into the things you are saying and are repeating spoon-fed lines. We all went to school too, these "points" aren't novel or interesting or honestly even worth addressing.
As I was typing the part about feminists, I was debating saying something about Africa but I figured if you haven't left this site yet, you weren't going to normie-strawman THAT hard. Guess I was wrong. ALMOST NOBODY TODAY THAT CALLS THEMSELVES A FEMINIST ACTUALLY GIVES A FUCK ABOUT AFRICA AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW IT.
About the only interesting idea I've seen from you is a submission about gassing jews in a subverse about showers, that was pretty funny.
I disagree with people here constantly and 90% of them are way nicer than I am about it. If you're getting ignored and downvoted, there's a reason and it's you.
FrozenFire74 ago
You are born with either a penis or a vagina, and that determines your sex. Gender fluidity is a crock of shit pushed by modern liberals and third wave feminism. How did that even come into this discussion?
You know, it's hard to trust that you aren't trolling when you accuse me of buying into gender fluidity faggotry and then accuse me of supporting the bolsheviks that killed 30 million people. The fuck are you playing at?
Might want to look into Christina Hoff Sommers on that one, a self identified feminist who calls bullshit on the wage gap hoax that third wave femenists are pushing. And she addresses the horrible treatment of women in Muslim cultures, which is what femenists should be worrying about, not the fucking 'patriarchy'. Women are being murdered by inbred religious zealots who believe that bestiality is an acceptable form of sexual relief.
Well I appreciate the honesty on that. Good to see someone else caught the humor there.
Triceratography ago
I went to marxism class too, we all did, that's the only point I was making. It doesn't mean we have to support it, but we've heard the ideas and they aren't interesting. Like the others I am not interested in debating you on them; I'm telling you why, not trying to have a serious debate.
I'm glad you don't believe in 73 genders. I threw it in there to pin you down on one side or the other of the language debate.
Fine, I concede you are right and you should be allowed to use nigger, feminist, and liberal according to earlier meanings. I actually admire your technically-correct stubbornness. But you cannot, like the 73 gender people cannot, force others to believe the same as you about language.
Since 99% of people aren't going to fight with you long enough to understand you are serious about traditional word definitions, they'll only say you're cherry picking feminists like you're cherry picking black people. It's likely you know at least 20 people who call themselves feminists. It's also likely 0-1 of those people care at all about africa but at least 10 would say they do, and 0 have made any effort at all to do anything about it.
FrozenFire74 ago
I have no interest in forcing people to think and believe what I do, I can't stand people who claim to know my views and condemn me after putting words in my mouth. That's what the Cabal does, and any Voater who does that is a hypocrite of the worst sort.
Triceratography ago
The point of all this is that because you can't, sometimes you have to adapt to their definition. I won't call myself a libertarian, because there's a political party by that name that I don't wish to be associated with. Would I be technically correct? Sure. Would I get a lot of questions about roads and maybe a leppo or two? Definitely.
Crensch ago
I never said it was.
What did I say in those links?
Does wanting to exterminate a race mean I think they are part of a cabal?
You're dishonest, and this is why you get downvoted.
They're not human, and they inflict suffering on everything around them. The color of their skin has fuck-all to do with anything.
FrozenFire74 ago
And I never accused you of stating all Jews are a part of the Cabal. That's a dishonest claim. Tricerafaggot has been 'paraphrasing' some comments here, as well as adding his own twist to them too. Apparently I'm pro marxists and support gender fluidity if he is to be believed.
All the different races on this planet are human, Mongoloids, Negroids, Caucasians, etc. Out of curiosity, what is your evidence that non whites aren't human?
Crensch ago
You responded to me with this:
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It wasn't verbatim, but it was your response.
Here are your words verbatim:
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That doesn't sound too far from what you've written. Just because your words aren't used verbatim doesn't mean taking the meaning from them and using different words is dishonest.
No enduring nigger civilizations. No nigger technological advancements. No great nigger writings.
Same with Jews, since they parasite off of host countries and require "aid" to keep their own afloat.
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FrozenFire74 ago
My words, verbatim were in response to Voat as a whole, not you in particular. My orriginal post there makes it clear as day:
Your response even indicates that the comment was in connection to Voat as a community, not solely you:
Now as for the Marxist accusations:
I've condemned the bolsheviks, denounced the holocaust, and will say (again) that gender studies and gender fluidity is absolute shit. Tricerawhatever has assumed what he thinks I believe, which only shows how much of a weak minded faggot he is. Honestly, I suspect he's projecting a lot of personal issues there, but I won't assume I know that for a fact.
That makes a valid case for low potential of these humans, but they're humans regardless and I doubt any amount of evidence will change your mind on that subject. What are your thoughts on minorities that have higher IQs than the average white man?
Crensch ago
The nips are decent, but still for some reason don't accomplish what white men accomplish. They're welcome to live out their lives peacefully in their own ethnostate as far as I'm concerned.
Your entire problem is in this comment.
"Muh not all X".
Who gets to draw the line between a "good Jew" and a Jew? A "good nigger" and a nigger? These things breed, you know.
And this:
Prove that complete crock of horseshit. Show me that we need some "muh based nigger" or "muh based Jew" to destroy anything that gets in our way.
FrozenFire74 ago
How many red pilled whites do you suppose are out there?
Crensch ago
A very quickly growing percentage.
Redpilled enough to oust the MSM and leftists in a few countries already.
The rumblings have started in many more countries, and enough in the US are waiting to see how POTUS works out as a last ditch effort to avoid massive bloodshed.
FrozenFire74 ago
At max capacity, how many string would a redpilled white army be do you suspect?