You're right man. Americans should totally work and live like people in Mexico and Bangladesh to keep their jobs. Fuckin white people.
this is a fallacy, if you don't have free trade you can keep wages for those jobs higher and keep them here. Also because of automation a new generation of plants means working conditions in those factories is easier than it was for our grandparents.
it has been less than a year since it was raised to $10.50, and will be $15 by 2020. Are you saying that we can gauge the repercussions of this policy already?
How can you divide a dividend by a devisor that is 0 and end up with anything other than 0? You can't divide whites from niggers, we were never part of the same set.
I really wish I've gotten here sooner.. I've traveled much of the country, grew up in the Detroit area. I grew up thinking Detroit was what all big cities were like. Once you cross that white and green sign that says Detroit City Limits, you know you've entered the "wild west." This is really a place you don't stop at red lights or stop signs, because you risk being carjacked, no exaggerating here. This is a place where you will see blocks upon blocks upon blocks of dilapidated, burned up, bombed out, homes. Some main streets look like Germany of 1945 after Allied bombing. Again, not exaggerating. I really wish the world could come see the shit show that is Detroit.
The Mustang was introduced to the world in 1965, ushering in the Muscle Car Era. From then until about 1972, American cars ruled the road. In 1973, the first OPEC oil embargo hit, and everyone driving their gas-guzzling land-yachts got hung out to dry. By the end of the 70's, thanks to a second oil embargo and a recession, the vast majority of Americans wanted fuel-efficient, economical cars, which they could easily buy from Japanese manufacturers. American auto companies couldn't pivot fast enough, and ended up producing things like the Pinto and the Chevette as competition. It was also around this time that AMC tried to become a fourth major auto manufacturer and ended up eating major shit.
There was also the problem of union labor pricing themselves out of the market. I grew up in a dying steel town in the 70's. The American steel industry got killed by German steel, which was better quality and cheaper to buy even when imported. The auto companies, desperately trying to cut costs, started buying German steel. The unions, including the auto workers', refused to assist management with cutting costs by scaling back their demands, and their jobs were shipped overseas or replaced with robots. My home town was in the running for the new Saturn auto plant when it was going to be built, but the state that won it was the one without a heavy union presence. The unions in my town prevented new jobs from being created, as they almost certainly did in Detroit.
None of the above has anything to do with a black mayor.
A post a few days ago said the Camry, accord, Odyssey, Sienna were the most American and then GMc Acadia and whatever the Chevy version is. I imagine that is because the unions scared away, or scarred the American makers.
cut off most current welfare programs. Give the tools for the community to take care of its self (bags of rice, beans). Raise the punishment for violent crime to death, instate curfews. have a place (greenland?) that the community can sent shitheads, etc.
With other gibsmedat governments eagerly willing to take welfare queens and their bastard children and with their progressive go easy on thugs justice system, I'm sure most of the problematic people will be gone within a year or two. Area fixed, but where did all the nig nogs go? The only ones that stayed are working jobs and actually taking care of themselves.
Not that relevant to the point being made but I hate how employment statistics start from age 16. Being that almost all 16 year olds are in school and living with their parents, they have an excuse. It kind of skews the average compared to if they started at like 18.
I worked since age 12.. on weekends though at the flea market. At 16, my parents helped (made) me get a job landscaping under the table. I haven't been unemployed except for maybe a month or two between jobs. What I'm trying to say here, is my folks instilled work ethic into my psyche at a young age, and didn't let me have an excuse. This carried on well into my 30's. It was my parents that gave me my strong work ethic, who also carried it.
Absolutely agree. In most situations where 16 year olds are actually still in school they could work a part time job at most while maintaining grades and any extra curriculars. Moreover, if that same demographic is functionally illiterate you're definitely looking at some skewed numbers. 18 would definitely be a much better age to start.
Being 16 and illiterate, 18 and illiterate, 35 and illiterate - it's all one and the same.
That's why they all rap, chant and recite verse. They (except for a talented few on the far right side of the Bell curve) aren't built to handle anything harder.
true, though the key difference, as i see it, is that they dont pretend to care about white people. theyre overt with their hatred of whites, but they secretly hate black people just as much. you can tell if you think about it, but the black folks never think about it.
Apparently, they want a bunch of cultural relativists who have abandoned taking race or religion seriously. If people were drinking glasses, they would want every one of them to be empty. If a glasses aren't willing to be empty (conservative/traditional white people), then they'd rather have glasses that are full of shit (Islam).
Union busting? That's a joke, right? If living in luxury while the rest of the city suffers is your idea of being "busted," I'd hate to see what you'd consider strong enough unions.
Outsourcing is caused by liberal policies and unions mamwad, holy shit you're retarded. Minimum wage and unions create outsourcing to countries that don't have those things
Not when unionism is combined with protectionist policies (as in social democracy) or it's end goal is to takeover control of industry (radical unionism). Yes, companies will go elsewhere if you let them. The key is to either tax the shit out of unnecessary imports or allow the workers to expropriate the facilities if the owners shut the doors and leave them idle.
That way, you don't have laborers working for pennies in death traps and you still have employment.
It's funny that you think factory workers could run the closed factories on their own. If running that factory were profitable, the jobs wouldn't have been outsourced. "Working for pennies in death traps" is a better alternative than the current state of Detroit. Detroit is a fine example of how left wing policies meant to aid the people actually end up hurting them
Workers run factories all over the world. They are called worker cooperatives. Spain's third largest company is a worker cooperative. Take a look on the grocery store. A lot of organic food is made by cooperatives. Some craft breweries, too.
It's not like they don't hire executives. The workers just take the place of investors and manage the surplus collectively.
My point wasn't that they didn't have the ability to run a factory, it was that the factory couldn't be profitable if it was abandoned by a company. They abandoned the factory because they would no longer turn enough of a profit for their investment costs. This would include worker wages and raw materials. The workers would end up making low wages anyway just to keep the factory running, it defeats the entire purpose.
Not necessarily. Many businesses operate on a 3% or lower profit margin. 3% isn't "considerably less." You're vastly overestimating how much money investors make. If a company can operate a factory on even a 1% profit, they will run that factory. They're not going to abandon a multi-million dollar factory that is making them money. They will only abandon it if they are losing money, when it is no longer profitable. A factory that is no longer profitable can't be run by anyone unless they can reduce operating costs, and the only real way to do that is to lower wages.
Look at it this way. An investor invests a million dollars into a factory. His options are to make 1% on his investment, or shut down the factory and make 0%. He will choose 1% every time. He's not getting a good deal on his investment, because of the low profit margin, but he's making some money nonetheless. If he was losing money instead of making it, he's going to shut the factory down. He might try to reduce operating costs in both of these situations, but that is simply not possible as wages are fixed by unions/minimum wage.
They will certainly abandon a factory if they can make more by investing overseas, even if they are still making a profit.
Besides, that's where cooperative federations come in. Too busy to discuss specifics right now, but the general plan is to create a self sufficient cooperative economy.
Corporations don't like abandoning factories unless they have to. Even if they could make a little more money somewhere else, they're not going to build a brand new factory to make the same exact product they already have a factory for. Abandoning a multi million dollar investment that still makes money is not logical nor a reality. Just giving old, inefficient, and expensive to operate factories to people won't solve their problems. Giving incentive for corporations to build new factories in their area will
If you think corporate welfare is the solution, (to put it bluntly) you're being a class cuck. If you're a wage earner, that is.
It does absolutely nothing to solve the problem of the globalization of capital, which creates a global race to the bottom. It will turn us into a third world banana republic.
The very idea that jobs are gifted from upon high is the problem.
The thing is, mamwad, you're being incredibly idealistic. You're putting forward a solution that simply will not work and calling me a cuck for supporting the tried and true solution. "Corporate Welfare" (progressive buzzword for not taxing the everloving shit out of job-creating corporations) and making lower wages is a better alternative than the current state of Detroit, and many other cities affected by the outsourcing of jobs. When you try to have it all you may lose everything. Try to help the factory workers with progressive policies, and you only end up losing them their jobs. That is simply the unfortunate reality of this world
Well, I proposed two solutions. One is tried and true (protectionism) and the other is radical, but has been tried in Argentina. You're also not understanding that the workers can simply liquidate the assets and start a new business if it's not viable.
Protectionism is viable but dangerous as it restricts free trade. Trump is big on protectionism so we'll get to see how that goes. If the assets were liquidatable, the company who owned those assets would have already sold them. No one wants to buy unprofitable factories, and no one wants to abandon a factory that they could sell. You seem to think that corporations are just leaving free money behind when they outsource. Simply not the case.
Protectionism is viable but dangerous as it restricts free trade.
Why is that dangerous. Globalized free trade is dangerous.
If the assets were liquidatable, the company who owned those assets would have already sold them.
Not if the union locks them out. What do you think "expropriation" means? If the corporation chooses to shutter a factory, the union steps in and claims ownership before anything can be sold. Or if that's too much like stealing for you, then you can have the government simply penalize companies for outsourcing, and they can use that money to subsidize cooperatives.
Why is that dangerous. Globalized free trade is dangerous.
Was gonna take the time to write a long response to that but decided not to. All I can say is we'll see how Trump's extra tariffs work out for us.
If the corporation chooses to shutter a factory, the union steps in and claims ownership before anything can be sold.
So many things wrong here, I've already explained why expropriating factories for the workers just won't work. Corporations don't abandon profitable factories, and thinking that everything can magically be solve be seizing the means of production is straight out of the communist manifesto. Your solutions just aren't realistic.
Post-WW2 pretty much every non-US country worth a damn was in the shitter from having been through WW2. The U.S. manufacturing sector was untouched. Those are pretty well undeniable facts. Once those other countries finished rebuilding and we actually had competition again, all the economic rules started coming back into play.
Once those other countries finished rebuilding and we actually had competition again, all the economic rules started coming back into play.
Did you completely miss that part of the post? Lack of competition owing to other competitive at the time (read: European.) countries having been blown to hell owing to the war helped spur U.S. economic growth. Once those countries (and also Japan.) started coming back up, we start seeing competition, which will naturally drive prices down.
Competition? Exactly what did the European countries bring to the finished goods table after rebuilding? America is competing with the monster of cheap foreign labor and lax environmental regulation we created in places like China where our economic policies incentivized US companies to move manufacturing. I don't think Ikea is what did Motor City in.
Exactly what did the European countries bring to the finished goods table after rebuilding?
Less than the Japanese did (Look up the Japanese economic miracle. We helped them so they wouldn't go commie.), except for West Germany of course, which fared rather well. Both benefited heavily from the cold war which happened after WW2.
How was it not a stimulus for the U.S.? We saw monstrous increases in manufacturing to support the war effort. We saw unemployment go from 15% to about 2%. If any President could've gotten that without a war Republicans and Democrats would be building shrines to that motherfucker and sacrificing virginial maidens to it.
The only stimulus was Rothschild money funding the war. If it was is such a stimulus, and we've been in Iraq & Afghanistan this whole time, how did the recession of '08 ever hit? Why the bank bailouts? Why did they continue to shut down armories & military bases?
Why did the WWII war effort involve collecting scrap metal like soup cans to support the war effort? Why did people donate hair for clothing?
Fuck, after the war we had to pay to rebuild Japan and Germany. My grandparents and everyone else I knew in that generation were poor as fuck all through out the 50's. Man, I wish they were still alive so I could tell them they were actually rich because the internet said WWII was a stimulus because manufacturing.
kenlane ago
this is a fallacy, if you don't have free trade you can keep wages for those jobs higher and keep them here. Also because of automation a new generation of plants means working conditions in those factories is easier than it was for our grandparents.
peacegnome ago
it has been less than a year since it was raised to $10.50, and will be $15 by 2020. Are you saying that we can gauge the repercussions of this policy already?
TAThatBoomerang ago
And that's only the crimes that are being reported. I imagine confidence in law enforcement isn't very high over there.
HomerChimpson ago
Job > No job
MelatoninDreams ago
Detroit isn't a shithole because it is run by liberals. Plenty of liberal areas are livable: Vermont, Oregon, Denmark, etc.
Detroit is a shithole because in the 1960s the whites left, leaving only niggers. And niggers are incapable of maintaining a civilization.
lube_it_with_blood ago
Electorate of well paid idiots.
auto_turret ago
MMmmmmm delicious tasty hate!
auto_turret ago
Instead of an actual argument, this is what the shill has to say.
auto_turret ago
How can you divide a dividend by a devisor that is 0 and end up with anything other than 0? You can't divide whites from niggers, we were never part of the same set.
antiliberalsociety ago
I'll go to bat for him on this one...
Because alts.
auto_turret ago
I really wish I've gotten here sooner.. I've traveled much of the country, grew up in the Detroit area. I grew up thinking Detroit was what all big cities were like. Once you cross that white and green sign that says Detroit City Limits, you know you've entered the "wild west." This is really a place you don't stop at red lights or stop signs, because you risk being carjacked, no exaggerating here. This is a place where you will see blocks upon blocks upon blocks of dilapidated, burned up, bombed out, homes. Some main streets look like Germany of 1945 after Allied bombing. Again, not exaggerating. I really wish the world could come see the shit show that is Detroit.
not_shadowbanned_yet ago
that's why seattle and portland are such shitholes too right? lol, detroit looks like africa because detroit is africa.
Whitemail ago
Africa with gibsmedats provided by the American government.
WedgeSerif ago
First black mayor in 1962.
The Mustang was introduced to the world in 1965, ushering in the Muscle Car Era. From then until about 1972, American cars ruled the road. In 1973, the first OPEC oil embargo hit, and everyone driving their gas-guzzling land-yachts got hung out to dry. By the end of the 70's, thanks to a second oil embargo and a recession, the vast majority of Americans wanted fuel-efficient, economical cars, which they could easily buy from Japanese manufacturers. American auto companies couldn't pivot fast enough, and ended up producing things like the Pinto and the Chevette as competition. It was also around this time that AMC tried to become a fourth major auto manufacturer and ended up eating major shit.
There was also the problem of union labor pricing themselves out of the market. I grew up in a dying steel town in the 70's. The American steel industry got killed by German steel, which was better quality and cheaper to buy even when imported. The auto companies, desperately trying to cut costs, started buying German steel. The unions, including the auto workers', refused to assist management with cutting costs by scaling back their demands, and their jobs were shipped overseas or replaced with robots. My home town was in the running for the new Saturn auto plant when it was going to be built, but the state that won it was the one without a heavy union presence. The unions in my town prevented new jobs from being created, as they almost certainly did in Detroit.
None of the above has anything to do with a black mayor.
auto_turret ago
Not a whole lot to do with just a black mayor, but the huge influx of niggers certainly made a dent. They utterly destroyed Detroit.
M346 ago
A post a few days ago said the Camry, accord, Odyssey, Sienna were the most American and then GMc Acadia and whatever the Chevy version is. I imagine that is because the unions scared away, or scarred the American makers.
movebackward ago
The Detroit pattern:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3WFUWtFnv8
The New Shame of the Cities review.
basedputin ago
yea the problem with detroit is too many niggers.
Whitemail ago
Even republicans couldn't fix niggers or nigger-infested areas.
peacegnome ago
cut off most current welfare programs. Give the tools for the community to take care of its self (bags of rice, beans). Raise the punishment for violent crime to death, instate curfews. have a place (greenland?) that the community can sent shitheads, etc.
Whitemail ago
With other gibsmedat governments eagerly willing to take welfare queens and their bastard children and with their progressive go easy on thugs justice system, I'm sure most of the problematic people will be gone within a year or two. Area fixed, but where did all the nig nogs go? The only ones that stayed are working jobs and actually taking care of themselves.
antiliberalsociety ago
Which is a result of too many dems
weezkitty ago
Not that relevant to the point being made but I hate how employment statistics start from age 16. Being that almost all 16 year olds are in school and living with their parents, they have an excuse. It kind of skews the average compared to if they started at like 18.
HomerChimpson ago
I was employed at 14. And in the army at 17. I lived with my parents and went to school the whole time.
I moved out shortly before my 18th birthday.
16 year olds used to work.
weezkitty ago
I'm not saying they don't. But it's not the norm so for statistical purposes, they shouldnt be included
Shekelstein6M ago
Not in Detroit
auto_turret ago
I worked since age 12.. on weekends though at the flea market. At 16, my parents helped (made) me get a job landscaping under the table. I haven't been unemployed except for maybe a month or two between jobs. What I'm trying to say here, is my folks instilled work ethic into my psyche at a young age, and didn't let me have an excuse. This carried on well into my 30's. It was my parents that gave me my strong work ethic, who also carried it.
Dabarina ago
Absolutely agree. In most situations where 16 year olds are actually still in school they could work a part time job at most while maintaining grades and any extra curriculars. Moreover, if that same demographic is functionally illiterate you're definitely looking at some skewed numbers. 18 would definitely be a much better age to start.
Ajaxofbarbaria ago
Don't you mean "don't count the darkies at all"?
Being 16 and illiterate, 18 and illiterate, 35 and illiterate - it's all one and the same.
That's why they all rap, chant and recite verse. They (except for a talented few on the far right side of the Bell curve) aren't built to handle anything harder.
RevoltNow ago
Yeah, definitely looks like they're trying to inflate the numbers. Made me trust the whole thing less.
Boyakasha ago
There's a racial element here that's being ignored.
spookybm ago
One causes the other.
Tb0n3 ago
Because I'm not as gullible as you?
xenoPsychologist ago
democrats dont care about black people.
Whitemail ago
democrats don't care about white people either
xenoPsychologist ago
true, though the key difference, as i see it, is that they dont pretend to care about white people. theyre overt with their hatred of whites, but they secretly hate black people just as much. you can tell if you think about it, but the black folks never think about it.
Whitemail ago
Apparently, they want a bunch of cultural relativists who have abandoned taking race or religion seriously. If people were drinking glasses, they would want every one of them to be empty. If a glasses aren't willing to be empty (conservative/traditional white people), then they'd rather have glasses that are full of shit (Islam).
xenoPsychologist ago
that sounds about right.
antiliberalsociety ago
Exactly as planned
mamwad ago
Detroit was destroyed by outsourcing and union busting.
auto_turret ago
No, it was niggers.
BoiseNTheHood ago
Union busting? That's a joke, right? If living in luxury while the rest of the city suffers is your idea of being "busted," I'd hate to see what you'd consider strong enough unions.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
It couldn't have been the Democratic leadership causing those things, oh god no
mamwad ago
Not in the city. Those were taken care of on a national level.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
Outsourcing is caused by liberal policies and unions mamwad, holy shit you're retarded. Minimum wage and unions create outsourcing to countries that don't have those things
mamwad ago
Not when unionism is combined with protectionist policies (as in social democracy) or it's end goal is to takeover control of industry (radical unionism). Yes, companies will go elsewhere if you let them. The key is to either tax the shit out of unnecessary imports or allow the workers to expropriate the facilities if the owners shut the doors and leave them idle.
That way, you don't have laborers working for pennies in death traps and you still have employment.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
It's funny that you think factory workers could run the closed factories on their own. If running that factory were profitable, the jobs wouldn't have been outsourced. "Working for pennies in death traps" is a better alternative than the current state of Detroit. Detroit is a fine example of how left wing policies meant to aid the people actually end up hurting them
mamwad ago
Workers run factories all over the world. They are called worker cooperatives. Spain's third largest company is a worker cooperative. Take a look on the grocery store. A lot of organic food is made by cooperatives. Some craft breweries, too.
It's not like they don't hire executives. The workers just take the place of investors and manage the surplus collectively.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
My point wasn't that they didn't have the ability to run a factory, it was that the factory couldn't be profitable if it was abandoned by a company. They abandoned the factory because they would no longer turn enough of a profit for their investment costs. This would include worker wages and raw materials. The workers would end up making low wages anyway just to keep the factory running, it defeats the entire purpose.
mamwad ago
Worker coops don't need to pay investors, they just need to cover worker salaries. That makes for considerably less overhead.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
Not necessarily. Many businesses operate on a 3% or lower profit margin. 3% isn't "considerably less." You're vastly overestimating how much money investors make. If a company can operate a factory on even a 1% profit, they will run that factory. They're not going to abandon a multi-million dollar factory that is making them money. They will only abandon it if they are losing money, when it is no longer profitable. A factory that is no longer profitable can't be run by anyone unless they can reduce operating costs, and the only real way to do that is to lower wages.
Look at it this way. An investor invests a million dollars into a factory. His options are to make 1% on his investment, or shut down the factory and make 0%. He will choose 1% every time. He's not getting a good deal on his investment, because of the low profit margin, but he's making some money nonetheless. If he was losing money instead of making it, he's going to shut the factory down. He might try to reduce operating costs in both of these situations, but that is simply not possible as wages are fixed by unions/minimum wage.
mamwad ago
They will certainly abandon a factory if they can make more by investing overseas, even if they are still making a profit.
Besides, that's where cooperative federations come in. Too busy to discuss specifics right now, but the general plan is to create a self sufficient cooperative economy.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
Corporations don't like abandoning factories unless they have to. Even if they could make a little more money somewhere else, they're not going to build a brand new factory to make the same exact product they already have a factory for. Abandoning a multi million dollar investment that still makes money is not logical nor a reality. Just giving old, inefficient, and expensive to operate factories to people won't solve their problems. Giving incentive for corporations to build new factories in their area will
mamwad ago
If you think corporate welfare is the solution, (to put it bluntly) you're being a class cuck. If you're a wage earner, that is.
It does absolutely nothing to solve the problem of the globalization of capital, which creates a global race to the bottom. It will turn us into a third world banana republic.
The very idea that jobs are gifted from upon high is the problem.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
The thing is, mamwad, you're being incredibly idealistic. You're putting forward a solution that simply will not work and calling me a cuck for supporting the tried and true solution. "Corporate Welfare" (progressive buzzword for not taxing the everloving shit out of job-creating corporations) and making lower wages is a better alternative than the current state of Detroit, and many other cities affected by the outsourcing of jobs. When you try to have it all you may lose everything. Try to help the factory workers with progressive policies, and you only end up losing them their jobs. That is simply the unfortunate reality of this world
mamwad ago
Well, I proposed two solutions. One is tried and true (protectionism) and the other is radical, but has been tried in Argentina. You're also not understanding that the workers can simply liquidate the assets and start a new business if it's not viable.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
Protectionism is viable but dangerous as it restricts free trade. Trump is big on protectionism so we'll get to see how that goes. If the assets were liquidatable, the company who owned those assets would have already sold them. No one wants to buy unprofitable factories, and no one wants to abandon a factory that they could sell. You seem to think that corporations are just leaving free money behind when they outsource. Simply not the case.
mamwad ago
Why is that dangerous. Globalized free trade is dangerous.
Not if the union locks them out. What do you think "expropriation" means? If the corporation chooses to shutter a factory, the union steps in and claims ownership before anything can be sold. Or if that's too much like stealing for you, then you can have the government simply penalize companies for outsourcing, and they can use that money to subsidize cooperatives.
Altbottom_Leaf ago
Was gonna take the time to write a long response to that but decided not to. All I can say is we'll see how Trump's extra tariffs work out for us.
So many things wrong here, I've already explained why expropriating factories for the workers just won't work. Corporations don't abandon profitable factories, and thinking that everything can magically be solve be seizing the means of production is straight out of the communist manifesto. Your solutions just aren't realistic.
SaveTheChildren ago
Niggers
Pwning4Ever ago
Not making excuses for detroits "culcha" but our manufacturing leaving the country would have fucked any economy
kenlane ago
who supported unions, higher wages, more regulation, free trade, and shorter work weeks making it easy for businesses to leave?
MelatoninDreams ago
The guys with crooked noses? Just a guess.
Pwning4Ever ago
You support a race to the bottom and competing against 3rd world shit holes?
Seriously man, go fuck yourself.
Tb0n3 ago
The industries that sustained them left. That's the reason.
Omag ago
Why did they leave?
Lobotomy ago
No, the industries that sustained Detroit, ruined Detroit. Then they left.
antiliberalsociety ago
Whatever made them leave?
011000110 ago
The 1967 race riots and an ever more powerful and incompetent union.
Tb0n3 ago
Cheaper factories, cheaper materials, better locations, lots of things.
Omag ago
Higher taxes, more social welfare, mayors that demanded they support their liberal agendas.
antiliberalsociety ago
Anything but political policies huh?
Fred ago
Post-WW2 pretty much every non-US country worth a damn was in the shitter from having been through WW2. The U.S. manufacturing sector was untouched. Those are pretty well undeniable facts. Once those other countries finished rebuilding and we actually had competition again, all the economic rules started coming back into play.
EdSnowden ago
So your theory is in 1945 the factories were in the shitter, then 17 years later after prospering that whole time they fail miserably for no reason.
Fred ago
Did you completely miss that part of the post? Lack of competition owing to other competitive at the time (read: European.) countries having been blown to hell owing to the war helped spur U.S. economic growth. Once those countries (and also Japan.) started coming back up, we start seeing competition, which will naturally drive prices down.
Morbo ago
Competition? Exactly what did the European countries bring to the finished goods table after rebuilding? America is competing with the monster of cheap foreign labor and lax environmental regulation we created in places like China where our economic policies incentivized US companies to move manufacturing. I don't think Ikea is what did Motor City in.
Fred ago
Less than the Japanese did (Look up the Japanese economic miracle. We helped them so they wouldn't go commie.), except for West Germany of course, which fared rather well. Both benefited heavily from the cold war which happened after WW2.
antiliberalsociety ago
Yes, it was WWII and totally not the depression that caused that too.
Fred ago
The depression that took place well before the massive economic stimulus of WW2? Okay.
antiliberalsociety ago
How in the everloving fuck do you call WWII a stimulus? You are a fucking retard.
Fred ago
How was it not a stimulus for the U.S.? We saw monstrous increases in manufacturing to support the war effort. We saw unemployment go from 15% to about 2%. If any President could've gotten that without a war Republicans and Democrats would be building shrines to that motherfucker and sacrificing virginial maidens to it.
antiliberalsociety ago
The only stimulus was Rothschild money funding the war. If it was is such a stimulus, and we've been in Iraq & Afghanistan this whole time, how did the recession of '08 ever hit? Why the bank bailouts? Why did they continue to shut down armories & military bases?
Why did the WWII war effort involve collecting scrap metal like soup cans to support the war effort? Why did people donate hair for clothing?
Fuck, after the war we had to pay to rebuild Japan and Germany. My grandparents and everyone else I knew in that generation were poor as fuck all through out the 50's. Man, I wish they were still alive so I could tell them they were actually rich because the internet said WWII was a stimulus because manufacturing.
You go ahead and continue being a dumbfuck.
Tb0n3 ago
Also lots of competition from other companies in europe, and shitty management which created absolutely shit cars for decades.
antiliberalsociety ago
And certainly not being taxed to death...
BoiseNTheHood ago
Don't forget unions being given an absurd amount of power.
antiliberalsociety ago
Of course they did, no secret there. Say, which party did they support again?
Tb0n3 ago
I think not making a profit will do that to any company.
antiliberalsociety ago
Not making a profit will cause over taxation? Weird.
Jpaul199 ago
I wonder how the prices increased.