@kevdude @Vindicator @VictorSteinerDavion
Post in question
@Millennial_Falcon cited rule 3 for removal, so I'm going to operate as if that's the litmus test here.
All titles must adequately describe post content and must establish direct relevance to pizzagate.
All the title does is list 4 things, one being pizzagate. It insinuates a link, but does not say for sure, or how, or through what new source or info.
Still, possibly acceptable on its own merits if we take the insinuation into account.
EACH link in your post must include a description of content and how the link relates to the post
I rest my case.
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ESOTERICshade ago
These links are administrators and board members affiliated with Welcome Trust. The rest of us understood it. The link itself is descriptive. It says what it is. "governance, board, governors, chathamhouse, academy, board."
Rule 3:
We don't think scrapping hours of a person's work is worth it for you to nitpick posts with this much research. This post refers to one of the tops of the food chain at the top of the pyramid. Down from there it spreads out and gets very tedious and complicated. Researchers must be allowed to follow the trails, research, for it to be fully understood. We used to be a crowd sources investigative sub. Now we are a sub that has to attempt to pass Falcon's almost impossible barriers. The diminished crowd speaks for how tired of this people are.
The OP is well known as not being a shill and should be given a little leeway. Its a small sub. If the mod is not familiar with the regular posters by now then the mod is not paying enough attention. Burning off this much time of a good researcher and regular poster is not OK.
You might argue other reasons for people having left and stopped bringing their investigations. This is my opinion and its the one I have.
@swordfish69 @kevdude @vindicator @think- @letsdothis1
Crensch ago
I'm going to respond to you exactly once.
YOU ARE PERSONA NON GRATA. I don't give a SHIT about you, or what you say. In fact, the more you support something, the more likely I am to think the opposite, because every time you show up you are wrong.
Dungles ago
If this comment was on Reddit, I'd post it to v/meanwhileonreddit. Been a big supporter of PV over the years @Kevdude @Mickgoestojail @Disappointed but looking through here you are hypocrites. @Puttitout what do you think of this and the way he's talking to users here to justify thread removals? This wasn't his sub he was given it by someone else after the users were here. Hows that different to v/chicago or v/canada? If I posted this in PV would I get a an SRS shill flair? No better than sanegoat calling everyone shills who criticises this sub.
Crensch ago
Nice try with the concern trolling. PG has very specific rules SET UP BY THE USERS.
And my tone? Fuck you. I speak to people how I want to. This is Voat, not your safe space.
I'm RIGHT, and that's all that matters. I WRECKED the user in OP, and all you faggots want to do is complain about my invective.
Realz > Feelz
letsdothis1 ago
Come again????? LOL
Crensch ago
Were you not bitching about how your post should not be removed?
Oh, man. Do you not even understand when you've been soundly beaten?
Accepting it afterwards doesn't change the fact that you got completely destroyed.
letsdothis1 ago
I've already told you that I concede that the post was flawed in terms of clarifying the links, though as I said, most people still understood what was going on. The point I was making is that I could have adjusted the text quite quickly and simply instead of the entire post being deleted.
Why do I feel like we are on a battlefield???
Crensch ago
The penalty isn't a warning, faggot. It's removal. Do you need kid gloves for everything you do?
You're simply on my shit radar.
Instead of looking at the situation with the deletions on your own, fixing your shit, and reposting, you had to make a huge deal out of things. For all your bluster about how smart you think you are, it took me commenting for you to figure out your own mistakes.
Feels like a special-needs event I volunteer at on this end.
letsdothis1 ago
I think there's more to it than that.
Crensch ago
You've been wrong so often already, what makes you think you're right this time?
letsdothis1 ago
You are the one who started this post. I was busy making new posts.
Crensch ago
I was pinged to your bullshit.
I don't like having my time wasted by people that can't follow very simple rules.
Had you settled it with the regular mods, admitted your mistake, and rewritten your submission, I wouldn't have been bothered.
letsdothis1 ago
What bullshit?
Crensch ago
You. Thinking your submission deserved to stay up.
letsdothis1 ago
You mean me trying to have a discussion. Nobody's falling for the routine Crensch. We've seen it all before on the Icke forum. This is all old hat.
Crensch ago
I don't get called in unless there's a problem.
You created one.
letsdothis1 ago
Ooooohhh... Crrrensschh.. is here.... Do you know anything about this? https://hroldblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/29/zero-tolerance-on-icke-trolls/
Crensch ago
Sounds like a faggot.
The rest of the post is also soyboy-tier claptrap.
Why, exactly, would I know anything about this?
letsdothis1 ago
That's not one of MY quotes. LOL.
Well, what about this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr9zlrScGR8
Crensch ago
Not watching a video.
Also, not following any more links of yours until you can figure out how to properly describe what's in them, and why it's relevant.
letsdothis1 ago
Suit yourself. I fully intend to explain it to the others.
Dungles ago
And dictated by someone who thinks they are better than the users. Why are you arguing over technicalities in deletions. When in doubt leave it up. Just answer that if you can.
Crensch ago
Every. Single. Time.
Every single time the "users" come to us with some problem, THEY ARE WRONG. Objectively.
Technicalities? OP was wiping his ass with rule 3, and that's the only rule I even checked it against. MOST of the links in that post violated rule 3.
THERE IS NO DOUBT
Leave the snark to people that can pull it off. It just makes you look like a tryhard.
Dungles ago
@Kevdude @MickgoestoJail @Puttiout @Disappointed
Crensch ago
@ExpertShitposter @Trigglypuff @Hey_Sunshine @heygeorge
I can do that, too!
ExpertShitposter ago
Why are people so hell bent on deleting this. Its not like one post that MIGHT be child abuse that is not 100% directly related to elites is instantly "spam interfering with pizagate investigation" come the fuck on. Someone is being a fag here.
Crensch ago
Ehh, not sure about discussing that kind of reasoning. My thing is, PG has rules the users helped set up for themselves. If a submission obviously runs afoul of that, is it not on the mods to delete it?
PG wasn't designed to be just a whatever subverse, it was designed to be a legit-research-repository. With that, the creator and users agreed that rules and active rule-enforcing mods were needed.
There's a sticky on PG about possibly changing mods or rules, or getting rid of one or both.
ExpertShitposter ago
I'm just saying, if something seems to be on the edge, isn't it better to not delete? Especially if its potentially part of the investigation.
Crensch ago
If it was on the edge, sure. I posit this was a pretty gross violation. Just a bunch of unexplained links people would have to click through in order to get a sense of what OP was trying to connect or say.
Dungles ago
@puttitout mis pinged above
twistedmac11 ago
And this is who we have moderating shit? Someone with the temperament of a toddler? Jesus, no wonder Voat is going to shit. You'd think @ESOTERICshade was the mod by the drastic difference in tone. Calm the fuck down.
If you can't deal with some pushback online without having a coronary, maybe you should consider other hobbies. Therapy, perhaps.
ESOTERICshade ago
This is typical for the mod sub bro. This is the insult chamber where problems seldom get solved. @crensch is talented enough to type "nigger kike shill, kike shill nigger" 12 times a minute without making a typo though. Pretty impressive :)
twistedmac11 ago
That is a rare talent indeed LOL
ESOTERICshade ago
This sub is also rigged. See that 10 CPP down vote limit in the sidebar? As long as that limit is in place you and I will NEVER gain those points so that we can down vote because the system will not add them with that limit in place. I can up vote you 50 times and you still won't get those ten points because the system won't add those points. Only people that had those 10 points before the limit was activated can down vote. So they sit in here and down vote us knowing that we will never be able to down vote no matter how many up votes we get. Pretty sneaky huh?
heygeorge ago
This is not true.
Dungles ago
About 6 months ago the site admin made it so posting in a restricted subverse would mean you dont gain any ccp. It was done so people didnt make brigade subverses.
ESOTERICshade ago
The vote farming issue was given as the reason but I don't understand how that will stop vote farming. A person and a couple of his buddies can still make a sub, and up vote each other. How did it limit vote farming? Maybe it helps in a way that I don't understand but I still see ways that people can farm up votes because that one code change won't stop it.
Dungles ago
I'm not arguing with you about it, just telling the reason behind it. That was the Voat site admin btw, not the mods and owners of this sub.
ESOTERICshade ago
I know you're not. :) I was just asking out of curiosity because the admin reason for doing it didn't make sense to me in a vote farming scenario.
Dungles ago
I agree it doesn't make sense. There are massive upvote farms here. In my opinion you guys should ask @puttitout to remove the owners and mods here. The way the users get treated here reminds me of reddit. If you're wondering how I found this thread this is what I saw: https://voat.co/v/AnonTalk/2394561 so I came over to correct the bullshit and the unfair downvotes.
ESOTERICshade ago
Thanx. I will check it out. I didn't know that v/AnonTalk sub even existed. Yes this sub has been a hostage to the board owners and mods from day one. They run rough shod over everybody and do as they please. They have destroyed what this sub once was. You can tell from crensh's attitude that they don't care at all about this sub. They powermod over everybody and if you don't like the way they act they just tell you "fuck your fee fees go to Redditt bitch" and stuff like that.
letsdothis1 ago
I don't think it's a matter of 'not caring' Esoteric. There's so much investment by the mods in terms of time, yet as you say they run rough shod over people. Something else is going on here.
ESOTERICshade ago
That has been obvious for a long time. Putting it to task with intelligent conversation forces them to go to asshole mode like they invariably do and it is a good exercise to let it "shine" in all its glory. Anybody with half a brain can read this thread and see what is going on, so that in itself is worth something :)
letsdothis1 ago
And that's why I invested some time here today. ;-)
ESOTERICshade ago
Touche :)
Dungles ago
You dont need to limit ccp to take a subverse off v/all. There is a setting right above that sets the subverse private and clearly says so. Anyone who made the ccp restriction 10 would have seen it.
ESOTERICshade ago
That is interesting. Makes a person wonder why @crensch wants this sub so that only him and buddies (unless they are all the same person) can down vote huh? And why hidden from v/all so that it does not "bug anybody."? People might be interested to see how they treat people in this sub and deal with the posters.
ESOTERICshade ago
I thought they stopped private subs when they did the code change six months ago? Can you still make verses private?
Dungles ago
Its not true private, it just removes it from v/all. There has never been a true private sub on Voat like they had on Reddit. Its been the same since forever and after the code chages its still the same.
Crensch ago
Cool. Show me where I'm wrong, faggot.
twistedmac11 ago
Deflect, deflect, deflect. I'm talking about your temperament, you ignorant fool. Get mad, call names, deflect. Excellent. All actions of a toddler. Smoke a bowl and chill the fuck out. I swear life gets MUCH more enjoyable when you relax.
Crensch ago
Tone-fallacy.
Fuck your feelings. I'm right, you're not. I'm not deflecting shit - your concerns are simply irrelevant.
Degenerate faggot. Using chemicals to change how your mind works.
I'm enjoying the salt here just fine.
Your emotion-based arguments are laughable, and have fuck-all to do with how I run this subverse.
Also, you still can't show me where I'm wrong.
twistedmac11 ago
I rest my case.
Irrelevant to who? You? Sure. The rest of the subverse? No. I know better than to waste my energy arguing with a toddler, though. Your brain simply isn't developed enough to reason with yet.
VictorSteinerDavion ago
Considering the supporting echo chamber your setting up with your cronies and alts, this comment made me laugh.
Your brain simply isn't developed enough to reason with yet
The general shallowness of your comments in this thread are enough for any cognizant observer to understand your only purpose here is to derail, distract and destruct. Keep going though, you've a long way to go before you could be good at it.
JusticeforAaron ago
You're dealing with a psychopath, no use.
Crensch ago
Anyone that isn't a walking vagina.
You, and whomever else in the subverse that cannot handle their emotions, are not relevant. You supposedly research child-traffcking and rape, but a guy on the internet gets your panties in a wad?
This post is one of my lowest-voted posts. 1.6 years ago.
All I said was that there's no good reason to believe the Holocaust happened.
So I set out to present my findings about it to Voat. I made a claim, then linked information about it.
Have you seen the front page of Voat?
But MY brain isn't developed. Go cry in a corner, soyboy.
ESOTERICshade ago
As usual @letsdothis1 we are spinning our wheels in the pizzagatemods sub with nothing getting done and the insults flying. There is not much left of this sub to save anyway but at least we tried.
letsdothis1 ago
I don't know about you but I'm starting to be entertained by this.
ESOTERICshade ago
Its always a riot in the mod sub. Same drill over and over. You notice the "answer" was to turn this place to utter chaos for two weeks with no mods. Then they can come in to save the day and "be right." This place is definitely entertaining and also enlightening.
letsdothis1 ago
Also very educational to understand certain things about 'cyberculture'.