Im sorry to say this, but Jem777 was a limited hangout. I have screenshots and video to prove it. (pizzagate)

submitted ago by srayzie

I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.

Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....

Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.

People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.

I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.

She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.

These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/07/ZumZSoXv_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/d5/2d/J8t6FMJp_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/6e/25/RTJCxGbk_o.jpeg
https://images2.imgbox.com/e4/ae/WwGK7UUc_o.jpeg

She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
https://images2.imgbox.com/f7/fc/B4LLAHVm_o.jpeg

This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.

See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg

Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14

She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.

Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.

A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.

What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis. He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA. Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?

Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user

AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?

Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.

Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.

We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.

The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?

George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?

Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.

Here is that conversation...
https://images2.imgbox.com/86/f1/1rWUwIiH_o.jpeg

I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.

I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.

Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.

That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR

Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525

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Cc1914 ago

I had heard that something would surface regarding Jem777 being a liar etc . It was hard to digest and had been waiting patiently for the info to come out . I just saw this sticky . I’m quite shocked that this is the info claiming that she was a disinformation shill . I saw nothing in those screenshots that proved she was disinfo. Paranoid ? Maybe , but to go on about how exaggerating you thought she was is unfair , considering she was the one with her “ boots on the ground “ as @pizzalawyer brought out . We’ve all been paranoid researching this stuff .. even you , because REAL weird stuff has happened to several people here . Do I think her death had something to do with what @RIPJem is going on about ? Not after reading everything he/she said . Sounds way overboard and completely sketchy to me . If Jem is alive and this is all fake .. WOW ! Then they will have succeeded in dividing a few more “ sandy hook “ style as in play on our emotions ! “ How could you say those deaths were fake “ ?! Etc . @Srayzie , I know you posted about how bad you felt about bringing this up and all I just wish that your evidence was more clear because to me it sounds like your personal perception of her was unwarranted. I don’t trust GW or anyone else of his stature completely . I don’t think Jem trusted him towards the end either . Did I know her personally ? No , but I’ve seen her research and like @dressage2 said “ she wasn’t perfect “ and we’ve all posted disinfo , unintentionally of course . She was stubborn when it came to re-writing her posts to comply with PG rules , but so were/are a lot of us . So if I’m correct in my deductions here .. this woman who was a cop , and made videos of herself holding her badge talking about the coverups that happen at the top was a disinfo shill? What about that is shilly? The very cop she accused of ordering her beating a while back has been abruptly fired also ..just a few days ago .. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/15/larry-esquivel-tracy-police-chief-fired/

What was your goal here because your screenshots prove nothing IMO . If I went into CPP personally , I would have takin all those photos too , it’s scary stuff not knowing what to expect . Telling you that JA and his buddy were staring her down somehow means she’s exaggerating? I’m sure they were staring her down . Furthermore if I thought you were my friend as Jem obviously thought you were , then I’d send you play by play details of my findings too . . As much as I think GW is a setup , I still Don’t think his comment about JA was saying “ he wasn’t bad “ If someone thinks I’m a shill , please announce it before I’m dead so I can defend myself . Like I said if this ends up being a hoax , look what it accomplished...

srayzie ago

So her suddenly switching her story wasn’t shady? On the 15th, before George Webb made that tweet, she sent pictures and said she was being stared down and followed by JA and his CIA buddy. (Who knows how she determined he was a CIA buddy).

“James Alefantis followed me to Little Red Fox to stare me down.”
“I stared evil in the face.”
“James CIA buddy staring evil at me.”
“Inside the secret bathroom. Yes... It is behind a secret door.”
“James followed us. It made me nauseous”

After George Webb made the tweet on the 17th, her story about everything changed. That’s not shady? What is it that you aren’t seeing here?

“The secret bathroom is not what it seems. This is a hole in the wall dump.”
Ok, then why send me the picture and video saying different?

“I could not get past the ping pong tables to the back.”
“There is no basement in the building.”
“I went everywhere except part of the kitchen.”

Really? She did all that while being followed by James and his CIA buddy huh?

Let’s not forget that now... James Alefantis is a “Finder”. Poor JA the victim.

Nothing to see here right?!

I have a lot more. Like I said, I only shared the Comet ping pong portion. I contemplated and many people thought I should post this. What pisses me off, is that you and I know each other. So what are you implying when you ask what my goal was here? We’ve been on the same page. We both have fought for the same things. So I don’t appreciate the way you’re making this sound.

Look what it accomplished...

Obviously, your interpretation of the screenshots proving nothing, is in the minority. Many people agreed. So I’m paranoid? Exaggerating? How can I exaggerate what the screenshots and video show? Why do so many other people see it but you don’t? You seemed pissed at me last week because I told Argosciv off about how he would drink human blood. Instead of being happy that I blasted him, you said that when you did, Vindicator got onto you. Holding a grudge?

Once again, I never said that Jem was bad. She did a lot of good. But she gave truth mixed with disinfo. I have much more and have shared with a few people that I’m close with. If my GOAL was to just smear her, I would have posted it all.

RIPJem is Sarah. I’ve tried to explain to you a long time ago who Sarah was. You thought it was a bot. Well then it’s a bot that Jem talked to daily. I have the conversations with Jem about Sarah too. I was always cool with you. A lot of people talk shit to me, but I never expected you to be one of them.

@Shizy @Think- @Vindicator

argosciv ago

Told me off, ey?

Define "drink", I'll wait.

cc: @Vindicator @ben_matlock @Cc1914 @carmencita @Gothamgirl

srayzie ago

How about you go write a way too damn long 12 part series explaining it to me. Oh wait... I won’t read it, just like I don’t read any of your other Satanic trash.

@think- @Shizy

Shizy ago

But, but, he's so edgy and cool talking about Satan and blood! How else can twerpy nerds get teenage girls?

argosciv ago

cc also: @jangles @kazza64 @Millennial_Falcon

See comments context.

Cc1914 ago

Wait , why did you ping the other mods in this ? Did you just call for support ?

RIPJem ago

That is exactly what they are doing on top of private messaging, and they have setup notifications in order to attack and hide The Truth as quickly as possible. See the top comment replies for more examples. Keep in mind this entire thread is an attack on Jenny Moore and The Truth. We are the target of this entire post.

We have been here since THE BEGINNING. We have exposed all of them. This is not a game. This platform is compromised.

Voat is a very dangerous place. Jenny is not the only one who was murdered for knowing The Truth.

This is all very real. It is not safe and we are risking many lives to share The Truth.

Read everything again, and it will all make sense. We care about you and all others as we care about Jenny Moore.

The choice between Good and Evil should be easy, and that is why they cannot allow the People to know The Truth.

Crensch ago

Mods need to be aware of what's going on here.

You and the others are about to have a very bad time if you can't start providing evidence for some of your claims. All it will take is a sticky from me inviting you to prove your claims, and every one of you will lose every ounce of respect you might have gained 'till now. I'll also likely flair your accounts so other users don't have to even think about responding to you when you make a comment.

EVERY one of you needs to step your game up. I've seen ZERO evidence of anything but the lot of you working in tandem to spread bullshit narratives and attack my mods.

And don't worry, when you whine and complain, I'll link whomever you're responding to to that sticky, and any reasonable person will see that nothing you say has any merit.

@srayzie @think- @Vindicator

Vindicator ago

I'll also likely flair your accounts so other users don't have to even think about responding to you when you make a comment.

Wait...you can do this?

It's probably a good thing I don't have access to that button, LOL.

Crensch ago

Yep. And you do have access to it.

Vindicator ago

She pinged me, because I have over a hundred notifications today alone, Cc and I wouldn't have seen this otherwise. The fact that so many accounts suddenly abandoned all semblance of being Pizzagate researchers interested in facts and started pushing this claim that someone was MURDERED without presenting any evidence of it whatsoever is suspicious as hell. It's my job to try to get to the bottom of whatever fuckery is happening, here, along with the other mods, one of whom is @srayzie, another of whom is @think-.

The fact that you find that questionable after all this time is really quite sad. It's not going to make us stop doing our jobs. As @Crensch will tell you, we will be demodded if we don't fulfill our responsibilities here.

think- ago

The fact that so many accounts suddenly abandoned all semblance of being Pizzagate researchers interested in facts and started pushing this claim that someone was MURDERED without presenting any evidence of it whatsoever is suspicious as hell.

This.

srayzie ago

Because if I’m going to be accused of things, such as @Gothamgirl now saying that I put child porn on her phone and being afraid I’m going to hurt her child, then there are going to be witnesses because this is getting ridiculous.

Gothamgirl ago

See that proves your a liar, I asked you, I didn't accuse you, and It's on this thread.

srayzie ago

You’re being absolutely ridiculous and acting like a fool.

jangles ago

You are the fool. GET OFF OF JENNY's Case. DELETE YOUR ACCOUNT YOU LARP

srayzie ago

First of all, when I made the post, I wasn’t aware that her death was being questioned like this. I didn’t know that she was having problems with George. That seemed to have blown up after I made the post. I probably wouldn’t have posted this had I known her death was being questioned.

Things went too far. People started blaming @Vindicator for banning her and telling him that he was responsible for her death. A new “Sarah” profile went ballistic and started drama. You fell for it. @Gothamgirl started her drama by implying that I planted child porn on her phone, that I threatened her child and said that things started happening after I joined. Like I’m responsible. How shitty is that? I’ve been here from the beginning. Are you fucking kidding me? Her true shill self came out publicly. The child porn on her phone should be looked into by the way.

I’m sorry that you can’t see what the majority of us see. I tried being sensitive to your feelings. I never said Jem didn’t do good. George Webb and Alex Jones do good too. But, they are a limited hangout and give some false information with truth. It goes much deeper than just Comet ping pong. I only said what’s important to this community.

Jem made a post on Voat the day after she went to Comet ping pong. Her story, just like what I shared in my post, sure changes on the 17th after George Webb made that tweet.

Link

Here is a video of her and George right after they left Comet ping pong. They seemed to be having a blast. James followed them so much that George says “Task Force said he was following us”.

I’m not working Jem’s CASE. I liked her too and I have a right to be concerned. I’m not a heartless monster. You’re exaggerating big time. I’m staying calm because I know you’re emotional right now. But you all need to back off because you don’t know everything.

@think- @shizy @Dressage2 Above, I added a video of Jem and George Webb laughing as they left Comet ping pong, and a Voat post that Jem made the day after going to Comet, before George Webb’s tweet. Look at the contrast in her story. It goes right along with my post.

Shizy ago

Oh wow, George doesn't seem to be taking any of that seriously at all! How would he not know what JA looks like if he has followed pizzagate? It's all just a big joke to him.

srayzie ago

Exactly. Researcher George Webb didn’t know what James Alefantis looked like. Suuuuure.

Shizy ago

One more thing that doesn't make sense and causes you to go hmmmmm

jangles ago

Ok you are not a monster. Yet your claims of knowing her are shallow. Why didn't she ever mention you to me? She mentioned @dressange2 but not you. WHY? I do agree she was off her mark many times but don't think she was manipulating people intentionally as you project. I stand by that. Thanks for 'trying to be sensitive' yet we all should not trust anyone. Or eachother, thanks for your insight and commitment for truth finding. God bless. Sorry I felt frazzled yet you need to realize it appears you are discrediting all of the great she has done.

Vindicator ago

@jangles, I have a serious question. I genuinely do not understand why people hold such a high positive opinion of the Jem account. You say srayzie is "discrediting all of the great she has done." What are you referring to, specifically? What great research has Jem contributed here? I have not seen any of that, and when I asked her to link to her research 10 months ago, she refused to do so. Please...loop me in. If she contributed in a positive way, I would like to know that. I have not seen it.

jangles ago

Nothing here. Just as a whistleblower against McCabe

think- ago

Nothing here.

So you confirm that she hasn't contributed anything of value to the sub, but you are attacking all other users who hold the same view? Interesting.

@Crensch @Vindicator @EricKaliberhall @ben_matlock @Shizy

jangles ago

nothing substantial, especially when compared to the whistleblowing she did in CA, long before voat ever existed

Vindicator ago

Really? All this sturm and drang is about a user who did not contribute research to v/pizzagate? For crying out loud.

@Crensch: apparently Jem777 fans were following her research offsite. See context above.

@Jangles, there is a real possibility blackhats created that account to discredit Moore's real life work. Did you see any confirmation from Moore that the Jem account was hers?

Crensch ago

apparently Jem777 fans were following her research offsite. See context above.

Then she was a useless cunt here.

Vindicator ago

I am leaning toward the idea that blackhats created the Jem account to discredit this real life person, and fooled a lot of pizzagoats who thought they were talking to the YouTuber.

That would be the charitable interpretation of what I've seen so far.

think- ago

But there was also a Jem777 Twitter account, wasn't it? Did it post stuff from the Jenny Moore YT account?

Vindicator ago

It would be very easy to create a fake Twitter. Someone made one of me, with the identical profile pic and everything. I would have had no clue if goats hadn't caught it and told me. It took me 10 tries to get it taken down by Twitter -- two months of asking. It was right around the time Voat was shut down for three days. It had made no tweets, though, thankfully.

Crensch ago

And the most likely or worst cases?

No rush, I know you've been busy.

think- ago

I think the 'death' of Jem777 might be connected to calling her out as part of the bot/shill network by @Camulous. An identity they couldn't / didn't want to use any longer.

I have read almost all the stuff she wrote here, and it was totally obvious that the Jem777 account mixed accurate information with disinfo and exaggerations.

And now they have created buzz, claim she was murdered, and discredit the mods, although there isn't even a confirmation yet that the rl person Jenny Moore has died (if she really died, I would be sorry of course).

srayzie ago

Sorry. That wasn’t my intention. She only talked about you and Dressage2 when she told me who she trusted here the most. Maybe she brought dressage2 up to you because you knew each other. I have never really interacted with you guys. God bless you too.

Shizy ago

I'm really impressed with your response jangles. I thought you were just wanting to fight and call names, but it's big of you to try and see where @srayzie is coming from and be a reasonable person.

jangles ago

The integrity of this community is paramount to the successful dethroning of the criminal echelon. We must all call each-other out at times. This thread https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2192210 shows how outrageous some of this has got. I got in a serious argument with Jenny over the outlandish claims she made about lasers causing those fires and realized she was being fed that information by people here on Voat, I learned that she lacks a fundamental understanding in the principles of radiation heat transfer. It is hard to say what the intention was driven from or whom were perpetrators of the lies and whom was the gullible goats. Regardless, Jenny is dead and she will not be able to testify. This is fucked.

Shizy ago

You're trying too hard. What is it you want to keep hidden? You're motives are highly suspect and you seem to be going off the rails since no one is falling for your shit!

srayzie ago

The LARP is the chick who thinks I put child porn on her phone telepathically. Maybe you should wonder why she has child porn on her phone. She straight up admitted it.

Cc1914 ago

Whoa! You are so off here ! I didn’t say you were paranoid for 1, I was referring to Jenny . And what in the actual world are you talking about a grudge and bringing dragon boy into this ? That did not even enter my mind . If your going to put stuff out there be prepared for some questions . I think RipJem is sketchy as I said . As far as the shadiness of yours and Jems conversation goes .. nothing there shows me what your alluding to and everything I’m reading on twitter from people who knew her are saying how much she helped them personally . This guy for instance was in contact with her before she died https://twitter.com/VCBestor/status/1029456761617633280?s=20

srayzie ago

Well you can pick thru tweets and read all the beautiful ones all you want. If you don’t want to open your eyes and see the disinformation, then don’t. But don’t ask me what my goal in all this is as if I have some sort of agenda. I never said she didn’t go good. Disinfo protected George Webb does some good too.

Cc1914 ago

Open my eyes ! I asked you to be more clear so you could open my eyes .😔 I’m not seeing her deliberately giving disinfo . Everything I’ve ever read was well researched . Please understand , If say this same scenario was switched around and someone came and posted “Srayzie is disinfo and here’s screenshots and video to prove it “ .. I would be the first person to defend you . I asked what the goal was because you convinced some , but not all . I thought there would be some solid proof .

srayzie ago

When people die, suddenly all kinds of people that never gave a shit will come forward praising that person. I’ve experienced the part truths/part lies from Jem on many occasions. I used the Comet ping pong example, which clearly shows her changing stories, so people would see that they shouldn’t just think her word is gold and believe every post she’s ever made. So they would use caution.

I never said Jem didn’t do good. Like I said, even George Webb does good. But that doesn’t mean that they aren’t also pushing false information. So my goal is that people don’t get blinded and glorify Jem so much that they take her word on everything. Check it to make sure. I sure as heck hope people didn’t start believing her Comet ping pong story that changed once George Webb stupidly made a tweet about and deleted it. He’s admitted he’s Mossad. He’s been protected from day 1. Maybe she fell hard for him and he was manipulating her. I don’t know. People need to be cautious. This isn’t a game. People are sent here to feed us disinfo. That’s not a secret.

Cc1914 ago

I get what your saying . If the disinfo was so obvious to you , then maybe next time share it right away so we could all research it and give her a chance to defend it .

srayzie ago

That’s where I was pulled. She didn’t want it out and said I’m gonna have to trust her.

srayzie ago

Ok these might be fake. I don’t know for sure. In this conversation, she’s talking to Defango. They are going over dates. It’s something to look into more.

https://twitter.com/Robbin_Young/status/1029949925511979010?s=20

Scroll up and down and read the comments.

@Shizy @cc1914

Also, cc1914, I’m glad we worked thru our spat. I expect arguing with some, but it bothered me having YOU upset with me. Xo

Cc1914 ago

These are real . See the date from this girls screen grab is 8/7 and she’s claiming she’s the original recipient of that text message https://imgur.com/a/RoEVkwm

srayzie ago

Oh ok. I wonder why they were saying that. Good thing they kept that!

Cc1914 ago

I’m glad it’s over too . Emotions are all running wild right now . The way you explained it made sense , it’s the way I read the screenshots that didn’t make sense and still doesn’t but that could be me just not getting it . Sometimes that happens ☺️ We have to wait and see what comes out .. something’s very strange about all of this including the voat post done about Jem777 having all those bot accounts . Who was that person and was that Wendy the stalker ? 😯

srayzie ago

No... those bot accounts are Sarah. I’ve dealt with this for over a year now. Jem talking to Sarah all the time is true.

Who was what person? The more I learn about George Webb, the more I think Wendy might not have been crazy at all. If he treated Jem strange and had women show up out of the blue, maybe Wendy being stalked and manipulated by George is true. She seemed really messed up.

jangles ago

@srayzie You make lots of bold claims for not actually being a friend of Jenny. This is sad. You are really messed up, you are are not being added to a growing list. @cc1914 thanks for being legit.

Shizy ago

I know! I didn't like seeing you two arguing ☹️

srayzie ago

I can continue to show you and Think all this shit proving that Jem and GothamGirl are connected to Sarah if you want. That way if I ever need to prove it again and can’t dox, you and Think- can be my witnesses. What do you think?

There’s something very very odd about GothamGirl. Other mods have noticed it too. Think- said today that she pretty much proved it. I know I’m a bitch to people I don’t like. But I’m real with you. I promise you I’m not lying.

srayzie ago

Me neither. I could care less about G... 🙄

Shizy ago

Thanks for posting those here. I couldn't do it on my phone. @Cc1948 posted them too.

Cc1914 ago

Oh shoot !! I didn’t see those ! I watched a video earlier of Jenny serving Imran Awan those papers though

srayzie ago

I saw something about that and bookmarked it.

srayzie ago

Omg. @Shizy found something on 8chan. I’m trying to find the links.

Cc1914 ago

Those are the same ones I sent you 🙂

Shizy ago

I saw some of those posted on 8chan. Not the one about the jealous woman showing up, but the others about Jem says gshe was done with GW. It's only days before she passed away. This is why I'm questioning this whole story we have been told by GW. Until this is confirmed by another source, I'm not going to just believe what he says.

Cc1914 ago

Your welcome ! I’m not just gonna believe what he says either . I think he’s susp over anyone else and now he has a woman to blame it on because those messages show a possible motive from a jealous stalker . Or maybe she’s not dead ? Seriously chaotic

Shizy ago

It is! Total chaos around here! I can't help but think this was created for some reason. Distraction maybe? I don't know but something is weird.

Cc1914 ago

Maybe .. what a mindblow! It’s like plain as day as to what they ( whoever they are ) want us to believe . Everything is pointing to GW .. GW is posting random stuff throughout the day like how he paid for another night hotel and dinner for Jenny one time ..

Cc1914 ago

Weird because I’ve been looking at his twitter off and on all day and it’s been up the whole time .

Shizy ago

It appears things weren't as good as he may want people to believe. Thanks for posting this here. I couldn't do it on my phone.

Cc1914 ago

Certainly appears that way

Crensch ago

It's amazing how many users of come out being completely unreasonable all of a sudden. Users we thought were decent. It's becoming a pattern. There was nothing ambiguous about what you posted. That cunt was an attention-seeking disinfo troll that just wanted to be the center of attention on everything. And that's the absolute best she could be from any reasonable interpretation of your comment. At worst she specifically was planted here by alefantis to mislead you all.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

It's pretty awful to call her a cunt

Crensch ago

From what I can tell she's an attention-seeking disinfo chill at the absolute best. So at the absolute best she's trying to mislead people that are trying to investigate child fuckers. She is a cunt.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

As a mod you are probably privy to more information than we are... but since I've been called a "shill" by a couple of you lately and it seems to be because I think Q is dumb, it's kind of hard to go along with that unless there is evidence of it being that way. And since she allegedly just died it seems totally insensitive, but whatever. I've been here since we were first told by Brittany Pettibone that this is the place to go to do research and for the most part it seems like the best collection of information but I see no reason to spit on Jenny's grave unless we have tons of proof. I understand calling out shills who are on here obviously gaslighting real researchers and posting satanic stuff, but I don't understand what it is about Jenny that you guys hated so much.

Crensch ago

There has been nothing presented suggesting that anyone actually died. The source of the claim is known to be a completely full of shit fake news rag. You can ask srayzie for proof of the supposed to vote user being a disinfo shill. All it took was her posting the links she did for me to determine that is your name in question was on the side of the child fuckers.

I don't know about the other mods but this isn't hatred for me this is Tuesday. I deal with more shills and disinfo trolls than most people would even dream of, and I'm pretty sure my mods deal with even more than that. The user in question was suspicious from beginning to end, and the supposed death is being used as a vector to attack the mods of the subverse.

So when you pile on with the other very obvious shills in defending this username, you look like a shill.

On a personal note even if someone did die and it was that username that's a good thing because they spent their time here misleading people who really wanted to do research and catch pedophiles. She misled, on purpose, people that want to put child fuckers away. She is a cunt and she deserves every bad thing that happens to her.

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

So basically, you and a few other mods would be happy if I were to die, because you've all decided I'm suspicious, based on the fact that we find it distasteful the way people are attacking someone who just allegedly died. That's a logical circle jerk.

Crensch ago

Basically, I was only speaking for myself, and if you were found to be someone who misleads pizzagate researchers consistently, then yes I would wish all the bad things on you and be happy if you were gone.

You are, however, engaging in a logical fallacy of false equivalence. I think you were probably misled, and likely have a problem with your emotions getting the way when you should be applying logic. If a website that is known for lying says something, what should be your first reaction, accepting it? Or questioning it? And what happens if it seems to be designed to cause an emotional reaction in people? Should you let your emotions be ruled by a lying website?

Is that lying website any more credible because a bunch of people seem to believe it? What happens if a lot of those usernames are known shills?

EffYouJohnPodesta ago

Well obviously based on your socratic method here, I would disbelieve everything that comes from the lying website and / or shill unless it could be independently verified. That was what happened with me and following Q last year... followed it for a few days until the shills revealed themselves. There seems to be a lot of unreasonable hate against George Webb... maybe he's a liar but if so, he's a much better liar than the rest of the liars I know while some of the other so-called players have become almost laughably unbelievable. That is why I said that there have been so many psy-ops that have taken over Pizzagate research.

Crensch ago

There are quite a few assertions there to support. This is certainly the place to do that. Just in the past week or so many users have been outed as likely shills, so many people are primed to examine other users and other players very closely.

If you're wanting to change the landscape of who and what are talked about on pizzagate, now's the time to do it.