I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
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She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
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This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
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I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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Cc1914 ago
I had heard that something would surface regarding Jem777 being a liar etc . It was hard to digest and had been waiting patiently for the info to come out . I just saw this sticky . I’m quite shocked that this is the info claiming that she was a disinformation shill . I saw nothing in those screenshots that proved she was disinfo. Paranoid ? Maybe , but to go on about how exaggerating you thought she was is unfair , considering she was the one with her “ boots on the ground “ as @pizzalawyer brought out . We’ve all been paranoid researching this stuff .. even you , because REAL weird stuff has happened to several people here . Do I think her death had something to do with what @RIPJem is going on about ? Not after reading everything he/she said . Sounds way overboard and completely sketchy to me . If Jem is alive and this is all fake .. WOW ! Then they will have succeeded in dividing a few more “ sandy hook “ style as in play on our emotions ! “ How could you say those deaths were fake “ ?! Etc . @Srayzie , I know you posted about how bad you felt about bringing this up and all I just wish that your evidence was more clear because to me it sounds like your personal perception of her was unwarranted. I don’t trust GW or anyone else of his stature completely . I don’t think Jem trusted him towards the end either . Did I know her personally ? No , but I’ve seen her research and like @dressage2 said “ she wasn’t perfect “ and we’ve all posted disinfo , unintentionally of course . She was stubborn when it came to re-writing her posts to comply with PG rules , but so were/are a lot of us . So if I’m correct in my deductions here .. this woman who was a cop , and made videos of herself holding her badge talking about the coverups that happen at the top was a disinfo shill? What about that is shilly? The very cop she accused of ordering her beating a while back has been abruptly fired also ..just a few days ago .. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/15/larry-esquivel-tracy-police-chief-fired/
What was your goal here because your screenshots prove nothing IMO . If I went into CPP personally , I would have takin all those photos too , it’s scary stuff not knowing what to expect . Telling you that JA and his buddy were staring her down somehow means she’s exaggerating? I’m sure they were staring her down . Furthermore if I thought you were my friend as Jem obviously thought you were , then I’d send you play by play details of my findings too . . As much as I think GW is a setup , I still Don’t think his comment about JA was saying “ he wasn’t bad “ If someone thinks I’m a shill , please announce it before I’m dead so I can defend myself . Like I said if this ends up being a hoax , look what it accomplished...
srayzie ago
So her suddenly switching her story wasn’t shady? On the 15th, before George Webb made that tweet, she sent pictures and said she was being stared down and followed by JA and his CIA buddy. (Who knows how she determined he was a CIA buddy).
“James Alefantis followed me to Little Red Fox to stare me down.”
“I stared evil in the face.”
“James CIA buddy staring evil at me.”
“Inside the secret bathroom. Yes... It is behind a secret door.”
“James followed us. It made me nauseous”
After George Webb made the tweet on the 17th, her story about everything changed. That’s not shady? What is it that you aren’t seeing here?
“The secret bathroom is not what it seems. This is a hole in the wall dump.”
Ok, then why send me the picture and video saying different?
“I could not get past the ping pong tables to the back.”
“There is no basement in the building.”
“I went everywhere except part of the kitchen.”
Really? She did all that while being followed by James and his CIA buddy huh?
Let’s not forget that now... James Alefantis is a “Finder”. Poor JA the victim.
Nothing to see here right?!
I have a lot more. Like I said, I only shared the Comet ping pong portion. I contemplated and many people thought I should post this. What pisses me off, is that you and I know each other. So what are you implying when you ask what my goal was here? We’ve been on the same page. We both have fought for the same things. So I don’t appreciate the way you’re making this sound.
Obviously, your interpretation of the screenshots proving nothing, is in the minority. Many people agreed. So I’m paranoid? Exaggerating? How can I exaggerate what the screenshots and video show? Why do so many other people see it but you don’t? You seemed pissed at me last week because I told Argosciv off about how he would drink human blood. Instead of being happy that I blasted him, you said that when you did, Vindicator got onto you. Holding a grudge?
Once again, I never said that Jem was bad. She did a lot of good. But she gave truth mixed with disinfo. I have much more and have shared with a few people that I’m close with. If my GOAL was to just smear her, I would have posted it all.
RIPJem is Sarah. I’ve tried to explain to you a long time ago who Sarah was. You thought it was a bot. Well then it’s a bot that Jem talked to daily. I have the conversations with Jem about Sarah too. I was always cool with you. A lot of people talk shit to me, but I never expected you to be one of them.
@Shizy @Think- @Vindicator
Cc1914 ago
Whoa! You are so off here ! I didn’t say you were paranoid for 1, I was referring to Jenny . And what in the actual world are you talking about a grudge and bringing dragon boy into this ? That did not even enter my mind . If your going to put stuff out there be prepared for some questions . I think RipJem is sketchy as I said . As far as the shadiness of yours and Jems conversation goes .. nothing there shows me what your alluding to and everything I’m reading on twitter from people who knew her are saying how much she helped them personally . This guy for instance was in contact with her before she died https://twitter.com/VCBestor/status/1029456761617633280?s=20
srayzie ago
Well you can pick thru tweets and read all the beautiful ones all you want. If you don’t want to open your eyes and see the disinformation, then don’t. But don’t ask me what my goal in all this is as if I have some sort of agenda. I never said she didn’t go good. Disinfo protected George Webb does some good too.
Cc1914 ago
Open my eyes ! I asked you to be more clear so you could open my eyes .😔 I’m not seeing her deliberately giving disinfo . Everything I’ve ever read was well researched . Please understand , If say this same scenario was switched around and someone came and posted “Srayzie is disinfo and here’s screenshots and video to prove it “ .. I would be the first person to defend you . I asked what the goal was because you convinced some , but not all . I thought there would be some solid proof .
srayzie ago
When people die, suddenly all kinds of people that never gave a shit will come forward praising that person. I’ve experienced the part truths/part lies from Jem on many occasions. I used the Comet ping pong example, which clearly shows her changing stories, so people would see that they shouldn’t just think her word is gold and believe every post she’s ever made. So they would use caution.
I never said Jem didn’t do good. Like I said, even George Webb does good. But that doesn’t mean that they aren’t also pushing false information. So my goal is that people don’t get blinded and glorify Jem so much that they take her word on everything. Check it to make sure. I sure as heck hope people didn’t start believing her Comet ping pong story that changed once George Webb stupidly made a tweet about and deleted it. He’s admitted he’s Mossad. He’s been protected from day 1. Maybe she fell hard for him and he was manipulating her. I don’t know. People need to be cautious. This isn’t a game. People are sent here to feed us disinfo. That’s not a secret.
Cc1914 ago
I get what your saying . If the disinfo was so obvious to you , then maybe next time share it right away so we could all research it and give her a chance to defend it .
srayzie ago
That’s where I was pulled. She didn’t want it out and said I’m gonna have to trust her.
Cc1914 ago
Oh wth ?! look at this ! https://mobile.twitter.com/PolitiKellyRite/status/1029977169391497216/photo/4
srayzie ago
Ok these might be fake. I don’t know for sure. In this conversation, she’s talking to Defango. They are going over dates. It’s something to look into more.
https://twitter.com/Robbin_Young/status/1029949925511979010?s=20
Scroll up and down and read the comments.
@Shizy @cc1914
Also, cc1914, I’m glad we worked thru our spat. I expect arguing with some, but it bothered me having YOU upset with me. Xo
Cc1914 ago
I’m glad it’s over too . Emotions are all running wild right now . The way you explained it made sense , it’s the way I read the screenshots that didn’t make sense and still doesn’t but that could be me just not getting it . Sometimes that happens ☺️ We have to wait and see what comes out .. something’s very strange about all of this including the voat post done about Jem777 having all those bot accounts . Who was that person and was that Wendy the stalker ? 😯
srayzie ago
No... those bot accounts are Sarah. I’ve dealt with this for over a year now. Jem talking to Sarah all the time is true.
Who was what person? The more I learn about George Webb, the more I think Wendy might not have been crazy at all. If he treated Jem strange and had women show up out of the blue, maybe Wendy being stalked and manipulated by George is true. She seemed really messed up.
jangles ago
@srayzie You make lots of bold claims for not actually being a friend of Jenny. This is sad. You are really messed up, you are are not being added to a growing list. @cc1914 thanks for being legit.