I’m writing this because I feel it needs to be said since people are making Jem out to be a martyr.
Now mods are attacked because that’s the disinfo that Jem pushed because @Vindicator banned her after many warnings. People have tried to put blame on him, people have said him and some of us other mods are evil. It’s going too far. I was just a regular user when she was banned. I worked my way up and got to know everyone. It’s nothing like what she describes. There isn’t some mod conspiracy against whistleblowers. I have private tweets of her trying to convince me of that as well. People can be hateful....
Here is one example. Read my reply underneath so you get an idea of where I’m coming from.
People have been urging me to share. I mean no disrespect. I believe Jem did did do a lot of good. But, you guys shouldn’t just go believe everything she’s shared. She exaggerated CONSTANTLY. She always needed to feel important. Plus, she had been working with George Webb all along I believe.
I’m sure some of you are going to be pissed off. I’m sorry. But, you can read thru this and make your own decision, at least I’m putting it out there for you guys to decide on your own.
She made the following tweets. Note how on the last one, it shows George Webb.
These were from Dec 15th. Notice the bottom one shows George Webb...
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She sent more pictures privately on Twitter...
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This is where it’s time to pay closer attention. She sent me these private messages with pictures of James Alefantis, who was supposedly watching her, following her, etc.. As well as talking about a secret bathroom.
See the pictures here...
https://images2.imgbox.com/ef/2b/SdbRMpel_o.jpeg
Here is a personal video she sent me from inside Comet ping pong telling me about a secret room off the bathroom...
https://streamable.com/e7h14
She was always defensive of George Webb. ALWAYS. She didn’t like me until I went thru a period of liking him too. I think she knew him all along. I think she was working with George Webb. So on the same night after going to Comet ping pong, we had a conversation about George Webb. You can see how happy she was being with him. I wondered if they were a couple.
Here is that conversation...
Jem talking about George.
A couple of days later, George Webb made some tweets. It pissed a lot of people off. This is how it started... First, he was accused of child trafficking with James Alefantis. So he showed up at Comet ping pong WITHIN THE HOUR. He must have been pretty concerned to do that.
What made people become so angry was how he described James Alefantis.
He said “I met James Alefantis. He is playing a role as sex predator at CIA.
Good actor. Good CIA man”. He later deleted those tweets and wouldn’t answer people’s questions when they got angry. If it was so important for him to go within the hour, all he said about that was that he’s quite sure he didn’t know James?
Here are the tweets below...
George Webb Tweets
An angry tweet from a user
AFTER George made that tweet, I had a private twitter conversation with Jem. She made light of it and tries to convince me that when George Webb is speaking, he uses psychological warfare. If he was using psychological warfare, then why delete his tweets?
Her story was falling apart. What about the pictures she sent showing James Alefantis and his CIA friend staring her down and following her? What about the secret room off the bathroom that she sent me a video of? She didn’t know that George Webb would tweet what he did so she had to come up with excuses. That’s just a short conversation. But she ended it by saying she thinks James Alefantis is a Finder.
Here is that conversation...
Conversation with Jem about George’s tweet.
We had a long conversation, full of her exaggerating things as usual, on the Dec 20th. But then on December 22nd, I had more questions about why George would say that James Alefantis was a Finder and make light of it saying he’s a good CIA man.
The Dec 22nd conversation was her trying to make me feel sympathy for poor George. Her describing a different story about what happened. The whole story regarding the bathroom changed. She sent me the video the day she took it. How come the new story contradicts what she had said the first time?
George said he showed up within the hour because he was being accused of knowing James Alefantis. Why does Jem say she brought George to keep him them distracted while she looked around? If she found nothing to be wrong, why were the pictures that she sent me ones that made it look like she felt threatened? Plus the secret room off the bathroom. Why did that story change?
Why did everything she said suddenly change after George made that tweet? It ended with her acting irritated and telling me to withhold judgement. Then why did she willingly give me all the “fake” information a week before? Why did she start getting defensive when asked? She didn’t know he was going to make that tweet.
Here is that conversation...
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I’m just sharing this because it’s related to James Alefantis and Comet Ping Pong. It’s just an example to show you that she was a limited hangout. She mixed some truth with some disinfo. Others have had experiences as well, but they can share if they choose to.
I would like to say before I’m killed off, that what I have on Jem isn’t anything incriminating. It’s just her usual exaggerated stories and experiences. The only reason I’m not sharing all of it is because it doesn’t apply to pizzagate and I don’t feel right about it.
Since I have been attacked repeatedly, I shared in the comments yesterday how Jem was connected to “Sarah”. A total stalker. It’s probably a guy or a group. @Jem777 and @Gothamgirl were both connected to Sarah.
That’s why GothamGirl got so angry and tried accusing me yesterday or miraculously planting child porn on her phone when I’ve never met her in my life. She said that once I joined pizzagate, people started disappearing. Oh and I threatened to kidnap her child supposedly too. That was just SOME of what she tried to pull yesterday. http://imgbox.com/hw7mLGwR
Anyway, here is me showing how Jem was connected to Sarah and how I was being stalked...
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589301
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2677890/13589525
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Cc1914 ago
I had heard that something would surface regarding Jem777 being a liar etc . It was hard to digest and had been waiting patiently for the info to come out . I just saw this sticky . I’m quite shocked that this is the info claiming that she was a disinformation shill . I saw nothing in those screenshots that proved she was disinfo. Paranoid ? Maybe , but to go on about how exaggerating you thought she was is unfair , considering she was the one with her “ boots on the ground “ as @pizzalawyer brought out . We’ve all been paranoid researching this stuff .. even you , because REAL weird stuff has happened to several people here . Do I think her death had something to do with what @RIPJem is going on about ? Not after reading everything he/she said . Sounds way overboard and completely sketchy to me . If Jem is alive and this is all fake .. WOW ! Then they will have succeeded in dividing a few more “ sandy hook “ style as in play on our emotions ! “ How could you say those deaths were fake “ ?! Etc . @Srayzie , I know you posted about how bad you felt about bringing this up and all I just wish that your evidence was more clear because to me it sounds like your personal perception of her was unwarranted. I don’t trust GW or anyone else of his stature completely . I don’t think Jem trusted him towards the end either . Did I know her personally ? No , but I’ve seen her research and like @dressage2 said “ she wasn’t perfect “ and we’ve all posted disinfo , unintentionally of course . She was stubborn when it came to re-writing her posts to comply with PG rules , but so were/are a lot of us . So if I’m correct in my deductions here .. this woman who was a cop , and made videos of herself holding her badge talking about the coverups that happen at the top was a disinfo shill? What about that is shilly? The very cop she accused of ordering her beating a while back has been abruptly fired also ..just a few days ago .. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2018/08/15/larry-esquivel-tracy-police-chief-fired/
What was your goal here because your screenshots prove nothing IMO . If I went into CPP personally , I would have takin all those photos too , it’s scary stuff not knowing what to expect . Telling you that JA and his buddy were staring her down somehow means she’s exaggerating? I’m sure they were staring her down . Furthermore if I thought you were my friend as Jem obviously thought you were , then I’d send you play by play details of my findings too . . As much as I think GW is a setup , I still Don’t think his comment about JA was saying “ he wasn’t bad “ If someone thinks I’m a shill , please announce it before I’m dead so I can defend myself . Like I said if this ends up being a hoax , look what it accomplished...
srayzie ago
So her suddenly switching her story wasn’t shady? On the 15th, before George Webb made that tweet, she sent pictures and said she was being stared down and followed by JA and his CIA buddy. (Who knows how she determined he was a CIA buddy).
“James Alefantis followed me to Little Red Fox to stare me down.”
“I stared evil in the face.”
“James CIA buddy staring evil at me.”
“Inside the secret bathroom. Yes... It is behind a secret door.”
“James followed us. It made me nauseous”
After George Webb made the tweet on the 17th, her story about everything changed. That’s not shady? What is it that you aren’t seeing here?
“The secret bathroom is not what it seems. This is a hole in the wall dump.”
Ok, then why send me the picture and video saying different?
“I could not get past the ping pong tables to the back.”
“There is no basement in the building.”
“I went everywhere except part of the kitchen.”
Really? She did all that while being followed by James and his CIA buddy huh?
Let’s not forget that now... James Alefantis is a “Finder”. Poor JA the victim.
Nothing to see here right?!
I have a lot more. Like I said, I only shared the Comet ping pong portion. I contemplated and many people thought I should post this. What pisses me off, is that you and I know each other. So what are you implying when you ask what my goal was here? We’ve been on the same page. We both have fought for the same things. So I don’t appreciate the way you’re making this sound.
Obviously, your interpretation of the screenshots proving nothing, is in the minority. Many people agreed. So I’m paranoid? Exaggerating? How can I exaggerate what the screenshots and video show? Why do so many other people see it but you don’t? You seemed pissed at me last week because I told Argosciv off about how he would drink human blood. Instead of being happy that I blasted him, you said that when you did, Vindicator got onto you. Holding a grudge?
Once again, I never said that Jem was bad. She did a lot of good. But she gave truth mixed with disinfo. I have much more and have shared with a few people that I’m close with. If my GOAL was to just smear her, I would have posted it all.
RIPJem is Sarah. I’ve tried to explain to you a long time ago who Sarah was. You thought it was a bot. Well then it’s a bot that Jem talked to daily. I have the conversations with Jem about Sarah too. I was always cool with you. A lot of people talk shit to me, but I never expected you to be one of them.
@Shizy @Think- @Vindicator
Crensch ago
It's amazing how many users of come out being completely unreasonable all of a sudden. Users we thought were decent. It's becoming a pattern. There was nothing ambiguous about what you posted. That cunt was an attention-seeking disinfo troll that just wanted to be the center of attention on everything. And that's the absolute best she could be from any reasonable interpretation of your comment. At worst she specifically was planted here by alefantis to mislead you all.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
It's pretty awful to call her a cunt
Crensch ago
From what I can tell she's an attention-seeking disinfo chill at the absolute best. So at the absolute best she's trying to mislead people that are trying to investigate child fuckers. She is a cunt.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
As a mod you are probably privy to more information than we are... but since I've been called a "shill" by a couple of you lately and it seems to be because I think Q is dumb, it's kind of hard to go along with that unless there is evidence of it being that way. And since she allegedly just died it seems totally insensitive, but whatever. I've been here since we were first told by Brittany Pettibone that this is the place to go to do research and for the most part it seems like the best collection of information but I see no reason to spit on Jenny's grave unless we have tons of proof. I understand calling out shills who are on here obviously gaslighting real researchers and posting satanic stuff, but I don't understand what it is about Jenny that you guys hated so much.
Crensch ago
There has been nothing presented suggesting that anyone actually died. The source of the claim is known to be a completely full of shit fake news rag. You can ask srayzie for proof of the supposed to vote user being a disinfo shill. All it took was her posting the links she did for me to determine that is your name in question was on the side of the child fuckers.
I don't know about the other mods but this isn't hatred for me this is Tuesday. I deal with more shills and disinfo trolls than most people would even dream of, and I'm pretty sure my mods deal with even more than that. The user in question was suspicious from beginning to end, and the supposed death is being used as a vector to attack the mods of the subverse.
So when you pile on with the other very obvious shills in defending this username, you look like a shill.
On a personal note even if someone did die and it was that username that's a good thing because they spent their time here misleading people who really wanted to do research and catch pedophiles. She misled, on purpose, people that want to put child fuckers away. She is a cunt and she deserves every bad thing that happens to her.
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
So basically, you and a few other mods would be happy if I were to die, because you've all decided I'm suspicious, based on the fact that we find it distasteful the way people are attacking someone who just allegedly died. That's a logical circle jerk.
Crensch ago
Basically, I was only speaking for myself, and if you were found to be someone who misleads pizzagate researchers consistently, then yes I would wish all the bad things on you and be happy if you were gone.
You are, however, engaging in a logical fallacy of false equivalence. I think you were probably misled, and likely have a problem with your emotions getting the way when you should be applying logic. If a website that is known for lying says something, what should be your first reaction, accepting it? Or questioning it? And what happens if it seems to be designed to cause an emotional reaction in people? Should you let your emotions be ruled by a lying website?
Is that lying website any more credible because a bunch of people seem to believe it? What happens if a lot of those usernames are known shills?
EffYouJohnPodesta ago
Well obviously based on your socratic method here, I would disbelieve everything that comes from the lying website and / or shill unless it could be independently verified. That was what happened with me and following Q last year... followed it for a few days until the shills revealed themselves. There seems to be a lot of unreasonable hate against George Webb... maybe he's a liar but if so, he's a much better liar than the rest of the liars I know while some of the other so-called players have become almost laughably unbelievable. That is why I said that there have been so many psy-ops that have taken over Pizzagate research.
Crensch ago
There are quite a few assertions there to support. This is certainly the place to do that. Just in the past week or so many users have been outed as likely shills, so many people are primed to examine other users and other players very closely.
If you're wanting to change the landscape of who and what are talked about on pizzagate, now's the time to do it.