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Vindicator ago

Proposal #4: Revisit what is and isn't Rule 1 compliant (directly related to Pizzagate)

Please vote and comment on having a more detailed discussion of this via a separate sticky

karenrussell63 ago

I get annoyed by having to make sure to explicitly state that what I'm posted is PG related, and risk having it removed just because I didn't specify. I understand the purpose but as long as a post is clearly relevant, it shouldn't require an explanation.

Crensch ago

It sounds like you want mods that are in the know for PG, and can curate based on their knowledge of PG.

It sounds like a great way to invite rEddit cancer here and ensure that only the non-useful narratives are followed.

You're welcome for the real estate to be able to follow any narrative you please, and the ONLY thing you have to do to use it is follow the rules.

Can you imagine if one of these shills managed to take over and delete certain actual leads while supporting bullshit like:

The Rule 1 problem is the biggest problem in the subverse in my opinion. Tons of quality material like children being given hormone blockers at age 3, Planned Parenthood misleading children to believe that a person is not male/female at birth using the word "gender", organ harvesting, etc...

? I found that below somewhere... ESOTERICshade wrote it.

The tranny-fuck bullshit is pure kikery and deserves to be investigated and destroyed, but it is NOT pizzagate.

THAT is the kind of bullshit that would be on the front page, NOT your (I assume) real PG material.

karenrussell63 ago

that's a fair point. i still think that mods should use discretion when something is clearly related even if the op didn't specifically specify. but.. i suppose its best to err on the side of caution rather than risk allowing irrelevant info.

Crensch ago

Unfortunately, Voat isn't all that great for archiving good information, and sliding/cluttering the subverse is a very, very easy thing to do.

So I agree with your obvious desire for it to be different.

i still think that mods should use discretion when something is clearly related even if the op didn't specifically specify.

How much work do you want the mods to have to do? I (by design) don't know the latest shit. How much time and effort should I have to put in to each post before I can make a decision on it? Where would you draw that line, and is it something we can write as a rule on the side?

How would that rule look?

cantsleepawink ago

If you don't make it clear in the title, the mod has to go digging to ascertain that your post is relevant.

From my experience karenrussell63 , you can still follow the rules, try to be reasonable and MF will still delete you because he feels like it.

Here's an example of what I mean:

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2086828/10313984

I'm now asking myself who moderates the moderators ?

Millennial_Falcon ago

If you don't make it clear in the title, the mod has to go digging to ascertain that your post is relevant. It takes you 5 seconds to save the hardworking, busy mod who knows how much time. This is part of why the title must make relevance clear, along with the fact that it helps other users know what your post is about.

star_boi ago

one of my posts was deleted within 5 mins while i was still writing the damn explanation!!

Crensch ago

I'm pretty sure that having to continue writing the explanation is a problem in and of itself.

kazza64 ago

i changed my title and you still deleted it

Crensch ago

What other rules did you break? It's not our job to scroll through every single word of every single post to find all the shit you couldn't be bothered to shore up in order to follow the rules.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

But you delete posts that explain citing they are not Pizzagate relevant.

Millennial_Falcon ago

Explaining how something is relevant don't necessarily make it sufficiently relevant.

UnicornAndSparkles ago

I often wonder if I can ask you a very personal question without insulting you or asking you to doxx yourself.

I see a lot of relevant stuff deleted by you. Can't figure out if you work for the dark side or are too set in your own beliefs over what is Pizzagate and what is pedogate. Maybe merging the two meanings for one sub will stop this happening .. I won't hold my breath.

Crensch ago

Maybe instead of just typing out how much you dislike the guy or think he's awful, you'll post in /v/pizzagatemods and make a case with links to submissions that did not violate the rules.

Not a single one of you has presented anything that wasn't complete and utter horseshit, and while I'm sick of wasting my time, I will continue to parse them.

Bring your fucking A game though, because I don't tolerate half-assed emotional attacks or irrelevancies trotted out as damning evidence.