Jem777 ago

I think the key about Idaho is Mormonism. I am not blaming all Mormans at all but the CIA has been placed in positions of power in the Mormon Churh...think Mitch Rimney. They are very secretive and follow the laws of the sect not if the constitution.

Operation Under Railroad is an example of this. It is funded and run by ex-military snipers as a Mormon child trafficking rescue group. They are not. They are involved in trafficking and organ harvesting themselves.They make a few low level "John" arrests to seem legit.

carmencita ago

YES! We had an article about the Railroad group in Haiti and it turned out to be bogus. It is great that we are all working together to root out these Sick Fakes. It is bad enough going after those we know are complicit, but bad actors parading as good samaritans or undercover rescuers is something altogether different. But thank God we have good people on here with open eyes and ears. EDIT: If I remember correctly, they were from Australia. Land of Antony Kidman.

nameof ago

The few low level arrests are the limited hangout. I geuss today was a prettybig deal, well see what happens.

nameof ago

Wondering about sandwich place called subway all the sudden today randomly, no reason.

hojuruku ago

Jared Taylor.

nameof ago

Jared Fogle! Of course but I had to look it up. Taylor is famous important guy online and abroad, white supremist.

nameof ago

I appreciate all your posts and all your rage. Fundamental uncertainty is our enemy family is bonded by knowledge. The opposite of denial of atrocieties done to self/others (color code green). Contrasted with that knowledge of atrocities done ap on oneself as you said YOU ARE BEING FKT WITH well so am I. I think they may just have took my kid. If I fight for ger, maybe I'll get killed. They have more power. And have done this atrocity thru the county state turned against. Commited SiN I believe and God is handling it. Thank you for your rage against child fucking gaggots. I need to learn more about the oto you speak of.

hojuruku ago

I feel for you I think I'm going to do my first http://talkshoe.com live show in over a year. Do you wanna join in anonymous (chat live - no sign in required) or call in anon via PSTN or SIP (the latter you can do over tor if you use TCP sip)

http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=139182&cmd=tc

@DarkMath pedo stalker of me has been invited too it should be fun.

nameof ago

I totally would, but I dont actually know that much about computer, I don't know what pstn is, but is it a voice call? I have Skyped once. I only have a phone that catches wifi, but has no phone service.

hojuruku ago

You can call a US call conferencing number and enter the chat room on a regular DMTF PSTN phone - home line if you are not PC savvy, or you can listen online even without logging in as a guest on talkshoe. Tech savvy people can call for free with a SIP client. I don't run talkshoe. The only safe way if you have made posts and you think the deep state is after you is to use an anon vpn and sip to call in.

nameof ago

Oh fuck them and I can't understand the fuck utalkn about letters. Totally rad though. I give a ful about deep state. I really do. Fukn a. They found me along time ago PROBLY. My phone everything. Laughing only cause, i don't have a landline if you can believe that, even when I was still renting I sort gave that up. Alotof people I know have done that. Just cel. And I gave up renting too and im a mobile unit. Its crazy crazy expensive, and im kinda ahead of tbe game its kinda rad.

hojuruku ago

I don't want to talk to you i want to talk to @DarkMath and get some other live people on the line, but he's too pussy. bugger then.

I guess I could put on a show and invite him into the chat anon as a guest :) He'd like that hey to hear people talking about him. And then he can say we are all mental because we oppose pedophilia normalization - which is the normalization of the metal illness known as pedophilia!

I've got documents proving that homosexuality wasn't properly de-listed from the DSM-IV on American Psychological society letterhead. That would trigger him.

Then there is this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjA_mSmxqOw

I got better intel backed up on my old VGB blog I can share if he's triggered enough.

nameof ago

I see...wah, well. Good luck with that. He's kind of not into you though. I liked the show idea. In saying show you are saying shoe. Doesn't matter keep posting stuff. Stay safe.

hojuruku ago

If you want to call up the US number and @mark_luke says yes too, I'll do a live hangout to talk about @DarkMath and he's welcome to join in at any time. Otherwise wont bother.

mark_luke ago

Luke-- I apologize, but I have an aversion to trolls ("darkmath" fpr example). I think that they're a waste of time and effort-- although I understand the reason that other people do it and so I don't judge. I prefer to be in a supportive environment (such as supporting you)-- while others balk at that and call it an "echo chamber." I greatly prefer hearing an echo than engaging with morons.

hojuruku ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056069/10147284

But he brings out the best in me doesn't he?

mark_luke ago

Yes, apparently that rabid gentile brings out the best in everyone-- just before crying himself to sleep every night.

DarkMath ago

Dipshit,

Do you know what INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY means?

It means I don't have to do shit. You have to prove I'm this idiot Drew West Best and you'll need more than "sentence structure".

Get it?

:-D

hojuruku ago

So how are you going with your lawsuit for libel against me Drew West Press?

nameof ago

Is there a way to call the number and star 67, make anon? If not I don't care. It's a little cell phone that's not the same as this one with a screen.

DarkMath ago

"DarkMath pedo stalker of me has been invited too it should be fun."

Do you have trouble reading too? I just told I have no desire to debate someone who's borderline psychotic.

You scare me. You're scaring a lot of people here which ironically means YOU ARE THE ONE HELPING TO PROTECT PEDOPHILES because if you keep it up nobody's going to come here anymore.

Get it?

nameof ago

Why? Course that's not true about @hojuruku. Come on the talk show. Its not a debate, its just you saying who u are and why you hate pedophiles and us saying us too. We all are sick by it and that there's something to gain by exposing it. Possibly some child's life and possibly dignity that all kids deserve. Protection.

DarkMath ago

Why don't I want to talk to you two dipshits? Because @hojuruku is out of his fucking mind. He's got some serious issues upstairs.

Did you know the police went to his home a few days ago? I'm not surprised. He's a nutter and his bullying is going to drive people away from /v/pizzagate in droves.

And then there's the fact I'm INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.

The burden of proof isn't on me. His "proof" I'm Drew West Best is based on "sentence structure". Is that proof beyond a reasonable doubt?

nameof ago

Whatever you have that right ti nit wanna talk but i have seen peopke say your name is getting paid. Why are they saying that I don't care. All i care about is what I posted and alert sense being where stupid kidnapper Silsby works at and did you fucking read those work reviews and ping pong and panda? Something anything.

DarkMath ago

" i have seen peopke say your name is getting paid."

How do you know the people that are saying that aren't shills themselves?

"did you fucking read those work reviews"

Yes a long time ago. All I know is Laura Silsby was desperate for money when she went to Haiti. Her business went bankrupt about that time. I highly suspect she was acting as a "Finder" for a child trafficking network and she used the Christian Missionaries as cover.

Basically I think Laura Silsby is the Spawn of Satan.

:-D

nameof ago

I hate seeing my vulgar language qouted, yes we agree on two things, I don't know anything, except one thing, Laura Silsby spawn of satan.

hojuruku ago

It's based on the fact that only you and your alter-ego have been obsessed with stalking me on multiple platforms this month.

DarkMath ago

"your alter-ego"

Listen up you fucking Fascist Nazi. YOU HAVE TO PROVE I'M "DREW WEST BEST" before you can say that.

You're starting to piss me the fuck off. If you keep up your bullying I'm going to contact the Mods and get you banned because you're wearing out your welcome here.

:-D

hojuruku ago

This is the same tactic employed by Drew West Press - coming to me first - trolling me - then when I complained back on his channel - he shadow banned muted and baited and baited whilst pressing the report button to censor THIS TRUTH about LGBTI pedophilia normalization....

What are the odds two different LGBTI pedophilia normalization activists would be targeting me in the same week with the same tactics on two different platforms!

DarkMath ago

"What are the odds to LGBTI pedophilia normalization activists would be targeting me in the same week "

Very low because I've come to the conclusion you could be a paranoid schizophrenic who thinks people are stalking him on the Internet.

:-D

hojuruku ago

@NameOf - he speaks for the mods. @SaneGoatISwear will love this.

DarkMath ago

"he speaks for the mods"

You're letting this go on @NameOf? Have you read some of what hojuruku has written about me? Does that seem acceptable to you?

hojuruku ago

fucken stop replying to me and i'll stop replying to you - you are role playing the VICTIM. Typical faggot technique to get special powers power to oppress others!

Here are other examples of this faggot pedo false victim tactics used to push horros onto our children and all those who oppose it:

As what has happened here. Safe schools child sex program is an "anti bullying program" that tells children hey if you don't play with the children of the same sex, you want to fuck someone in the same sex here is how to do it.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=197Q9wCR2_o

And then the homoseuxal vilification laws used to normalize pedophilia by criminalizing dissent against gay heros who fuck kids: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056942/10145520

CC @redditsuckz @nameof @privatepizza @mark_luke @hookednosedjoooo

nameof ago

Ok. Be careful. Don't get sensored.

hojuruku ago

that's his goal to troll troll troll and then censor censor censor. Who gives a #$@#$ what we say on this thread - because it's buried under press to expand to see replies on a post he downvoted into obilviion with all of his sock puppets because it's anti-gay.

We are only replying to you - not stalking / threatening you @DarkMath

You are the troll here. You have pissed off a shit load of other people on other threads for the same reason we are pissed off. And now we know what your day job is and how you are only here for stories to put up on youtube with a pro-lgbti-pedo spin for some adrev.

Still after all this time - ARE YOU DENYING Californian SB 48 bill forces children to praise nambla icon Harry Hay. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1863343/9125577 ????

i.e. this fuck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_dR2hlvCtg

CC @nameof @markluke @redditsuckz Stop shilling for NAMBLA!

nameof ago

You basically attacking this post about Silsby with a bunch of ANTI @darkmath shIt that i am telling you I can't fuking  understand,  now you call me nambla I call you c fuking I fuking a. Way way too much attention off IDAHO HOOK NOSE and the whole IDAHO THING I am ON ABOUT. I tried to talk to you and @darkmath who made sense to me, but is a name caller like you! Idaho Alertsense are in charge of US like you or I if we go missing. Is that of <br> Interest to you that these people are kidmappers and above the law at that? Does that get thru today???? If someone goes missing today these people are in charge TODAY. do you have any family. Are you a pedophile getting off on the posts and that's why you call people nambla because you are having some problem with the website and being compulsivs. MAYBE?

DarkMath ago

"that's his goal to troll troll troll "

Me claiming my right be innocent until proven guilty doesn't make me a troll. The burden of proof IS ON YOU.

Can you help me out here @nameof? This isn't complicated. He needs more proof than "sentence analysis" right? What's up?

hojuruku ago

The presumption of Innocent until proven guilty doesn't give you the right to skip the trial which is what you are doing now mate ;)

DarkMath ago

"The presumption Innocent until proven guilty doesn't give you the right to skip the trial"

Here in America a prosecutor has to convene a Grand Jury to bring a criminal trial. Innocent until proven guilty holds there as well.

Would a Grand Jury bring a trial based on "sentence structure"?

O_O

hojuruku ago

you are on trail and you just plead the fifth because you don't want to pick up the phone and talk to me to prove you are not drew west pedo press.

You know what happens next don't you? You know what everyone thinks. the case is already over. Speak now or forever hold your peace.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056214

DarkMath ago

"You know what happens next don't you?"

Actually I don't. I hope it doesn't involve you killing me.

hojuruku ago

i only threatened to kill all pedophiles not you. Tell us why you took that threat personally again?

Ah never mind. The argument is finished. I won.

hojuruku ago

paranoid queer afraid you might get both of your arms broken like the only guy named in this video? you only get that treatment if you try to kill me first as he did using his Chinese stooges.

You are ignored. The case was made and no defense was given other than pleading the filth. I'll do a talkshoe show tomorrow btw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB3e4v9LgrU

2 months later a gay judge named in that video got both of his arms broken

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/fear-attackers-targeted-top-police-lawyer-over-his-work-20100403-rkqt.html

DarkMath ago

"paranoid queer afraid you might get both of your arms broken "

You're threatening to break my arms. Nice. You're a bully on a 4th grade school playground.

@Millennial_Falcon @Vindicator @nameof, are you guys going to let hojuruku threaten people with physical violence? This guy is scaring the shit out of me to be brutally honest.

Vindicator ago

Hey DarkMath. Sorry, man. There is nothing we can do about threat comments unless they involve direct threats to your real life identity (i.e. you have to show evidence to mods the person really knows who you are and where exactly you live and is making a credibile threat). Downside of Voat's anti-censorship policy.

hojuruku ago

ANTOHER FUCKEN SRAWMAN I SAID I WONT THREATEN TO BREAK YOUR ARMS UNLESS YOU TRY AND KILL ME FIRST LIKE THE THE NSW POLICE GENERAL COUNCIL MICHAEL ANTRUM DID BEFORE HE GOT HIS ARMS BROKEN.

YOu have been sending me 1000s of message with lies baiting a response you troll. I keep telling you the arguement is over, move on.

CC @redditsuckz @hookednosedjoooo @mark_luke @nameof - now you are making false allegations true to form to censor ME.

DarkMath ago

" I WONT THREATEN TO BREAK YOUR ARMS UNLESS YOU TRY AND KILL ME FIRST "

Oh, that's great then. I have no desire to kill you so I'm no longer worried you want to break my arms.

"baiting a response"

I was only trying to make sure you weren't out to do me physical harm. You come across as a little unhinged.

"I keep telling you the arguement is over, move on."

Ok. That's a good idea. Goodbye.

:-D

hojuruku ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056069/10146842

Stop swearing at people again and again at people and then roleplaying the victim when they beat you in an argument. It's a poofter tactic to get power from authority by claiming your a victim when you are the troll who harrases people first. typical boylover http://twitter.com/garryburnsblog tactics.

If you were scared of me you wouldn't be threatening me and trolling me and sending me 1000s of fucken messages you shill!

He has multiple senators telling him publicaly TO GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU COMMUNIST FAGGOT! Then he called the cops on the senator just like you are tyring to do to me.

http://catallaxyfiles.com/2015/01/16/whahahahaha-activist-discovers-free-spech/

As the senator said to the faggot - go fuck yourself you communist turd!

libertyviral.com/go-fk-yourself-you-communist-turd-senator-says-to-anti-free-speech-democrat/ http://dailycaller.com/2015/01/20/australian-senator-to-angry-constituent-go-fk-yourself/ http://thefreepatriot.org/go-fk-yourself-you-communist-turd-senator-says-to-anti-free-speech-democrat/ https://garryburnsantidiscriminationactivist.com/2015/01/14/senator-leyonhjelm-go-fuck-yourself-you-communist-turd/

The gay rights activist baby fuck normalization activist I'm famous for fighting is WORLD FAMOUS. Do you want to be the same? Then if not fuck off. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056942/10145520

Now go in peace. I'm not going to kill you because I don't know who you are or where you live other than you are Drew west Press. You should only fear for your life if you are are DREW WEST PEDO PRESS AND I KNOW WHO YOU ARE assuming you are a pedophile, adn you are threatened by my earlier statement that I will kill all proven pedophiles I come across and have the means to do so - and your not in my country unfortunately so what are you worried about?

The fact that you are shit scared is a reaction to being guninely doxed as a pedophilia normalization activist who wants pedos to practice on child sex dolls before they move up to real kids, not do self mastery or choose not to fuck kids or role playing doing it.

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056214

DarkMath ago

" when they beat you in an argument. "

You didn't beat me in an argument. The burden of proof is on YOU to prove I'm Drew West Best. Your sentence structure analysis doesn't cut it.

Sorry, I don't make the rules.

:-D

Northern_Soul ago

Bitches please.... A persons most useful asset is not the ability to wreck each other, but a heart full of love, an ear ready to listen, & an hand willing to help. You both sound like Neo-Nazi's and are causing this community a lot of harm.

@hojuruku

I completely understand your points concerning DarkMath. I've also had run-ins with him, sometimes, he's like a pot with poison, but so is everybody else, we are all fuck ups in our own unique little ways.

I've gone over your claims, but the evidence you offer is weak and flimsy. Please do not take it the wrong way. Even if you was right and math did enjoy being slapped around by cocks, it doesn't make him a pedophile. I have many friends who are gay, unfortunately, that's the way the world is, people are products of their own fucked up environment. Its not their fault and it certainly doesn't make them monsters who get kicks off raping babies.

So both of you, stop crying like little bitches, have a scotch, smoke a cigar and eat some leeks.

DarkMath, you keep down voating me into oblivion.

hojuruku, you want someone to take your shit out on. For the world being so gay.

Take it out on these cunts :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGhCS564VS4

hojuruku ago

hojuruku ago

blah blah blah i have to have the last word blah blah - I'm not afraid of you - i just want to keep trolling and attempt to ban you because i'm a pro-pedophilia censor activist stalking troll blah blah blah. no more replies fuck off you turd.

If you are running to the mods saying you fear for your life why are you still here trolling me? fuck off.

DarkMath ago

Dipshit,

If you don't want me to respond anymore then don't:

1) keep calling me Drew West Best

2) say I'm pro-pedophile

I'm neither. You even admit you can't prove I'm Drew West Best AND that one is innocent until proven guilty.

So if you don't want me to respond again stop accusing me of something I'm not.

:-D

hojuruku ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056069/10148045 Everyone knows you are a pro-pedophile antagonist, so why are you still messaging me now harassing me whilst being the faggot claiming to be a victim afraid of me and running to the mods for help to censor all the while falsely claiming I'm going to kill you?

So https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssC77hapv0g

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056069/10147625

The pro pedophile troll wont stop I got this 3 hours go after a 12 hour break from his shit

CC @nameof @mark_luke @hookednosedjoooo

DarkMath ago

"why are you still messaging me"

Because you keep accusing me of being "pro-pedophile" and I am not.

This isn't complicated.

:-D

hojuruku ago

but you are and you wont prove your not. Go away just talk to me on talkshoe when we do a show about you in a couple of days. Bye

DarkMath ago

"but you are and you wont prove your not."

I'm innocent until proven guilty. Remember? The burden is on YOU not me. You have no right to demand I talk to you to prove I'm not pro-pedophile. That's not how Justice works where I live.

Does the Australian legal system assume one is innocent until proven guilty?

hojuruku ago

FUCK OFF DARKMATH. Just go away.

Do you still stand by your claim that SB 48 Gay History Month Bill doesn't force American children to praise the founder of the American LGBT movement and NAMBLA icon Harry Hay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_dR2hlvCtg

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1863343

Do you accept the LGBT lobby is making laws to force children to go here and do their homework praising NAMBLA king and do you also accept the LGBT lobby has and is pushing new bills DOG ANAL FUCKING LEGAL.

http://www.lgbthistorymonth.com/harry-hay

That's what the fight started with and you know I'm right. So no more answers for you except fuck off if you can go back to what started the conflict and accept I am right and you are wrong - the LGBT lobby is forcing kids to praise nambla and is trying to get bills passed making dog fucking legal as exposed here:

http://archive.is/JoOA9 - Details on the DOG anal sex legalization bills

How the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) publishes disinformation articles about pro-family leaders Here's what they've written about Brian Camenker of MassResistance Attempts to misinform and demonize. May 5, 2017 The Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) libels pro-family, conservative, and Judeo-Christian organization around the country as “hate groups.” The SPLC also posts recklessly untrue, inaccurate, and dishonest articles about individual pro-family leaders. Unfortunately, these articles are often referenced as “fact” by leftwing websites, Wikipedia authors, and the mainstream media. For example, here are excerpts from the SPLC’s article that includes Brian Camenker of MassResistance. Here's what the SPLC writes about Camenker -- and the truth below. At a 2006 religious right gathering in Washington, D.C., Camenker insisted that gays were trying to get legislation passed to allow sex with animals. "One bill in Massachusetts takes away all the penalties for bestiality," he claimed. "This is where this [homosexual] agenda is going." A little later, he added, "They [gays and lesbians] are pushing perversion on our kids." SPLC writes this as if Camenker was falsely claiming that the LGBT lobby was trying to repeal the bestiality statute (Ch. 272, sec. 34). But in fact, the LGBT lobby DID quietly file bills to repeal it – not only in 2006 but several times since then, including a bill filed in the recent 2015-2016 session. It was bizarre. Luckily, none of them have ever gotten out of committee. The basic point is that the Left (and particularly the LGBT movement) is trying to overturn all laws concerned with sex that they consider “archaic”. In 2006-2007, Mass-Resistance pushed for an amendment of the 1996 statute that would have required that parents be notified of any discussion of gay or lesbian issues in the schools. The group proposed language that lumped sexual orientation (which includes heterosexuality, homosexuality and bisexuality) in with criminal behaviors like bestiality and polygamy. This is not accurate and purposely misleading. The bill (S321) didn’t reference “discussion” of anything. It said that if schools were “presenting, implementing, or maintaining a school program” that included a list of subjects (all connected to sexuality), then parents are given the option to “opt in” to that program – not forced to “opt out” if they didn't want their child included. It’s completely reasonable.

Link to the bestiality legalization bill put forwards by gay activists:

http://www.massresistance.org/docs/issues/splc/images/H1653.pdf

Why do you hate me for exposing LGBTI leadership is fighting to make dog fucking legal? Is it wrong to be against dog sex normalization like pedophilia normalization too? Is that why you troll me pedo lover? What drives you to hate someone who clearly hates child and dog sex so much? That is the question everyone needs to think about here.

DarkMath ago

"Do you still stand by your claim that SB 48 Gay History Month Bill doesn't force American children to praise the founder of the American LGBT movement and NAMBLA icon Harry Hay?"

No. You're correct. SB 48 should make no mention of Harry Hay who I think is a depraved Pedophile. I concede the point. You changed my mind.

"Do you accept the LGBT lobby is making laws to force children to go here and do their homework praising NAMBLA king and do you also accept the LGBT lobby has and is pushing new bills DOG ANAL FUCKING LEGAL."

Yes. The LGBT lobby is toxic and needs to reform. Again I concede the point. You were right. The LGBT LGBTIQCAPGNGFNBA needs to change. It's pure insanity.

"That's what the fight started with and you know I'm right."

That's all that started the fight? As I recall it was that and my arguing the homosexuals are not by default pedophiles which you later conceded but then started arguing homosexuality and pedophilia couldn't be separated..........which is basically the same thing.

Will YOU concede the point and admit I was right?

"How the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) publishes disinformation"

You're preaching to the choir. I AGREE WITH YOU. I agree with everything except your claim homosexuality and pedophilia can't be separated. And for the record I'm not homosexual. I just find you lumping them in with pedophiles is:

1) wrong because all are innocent until proven guilty.

2) extremely counter productive to our argument when you consider we're pretty much the closest thing to a leper colony the Interwebs has right now as it is and you want to throw in Homophobia too.

:-D

hojuruku ago

It's personal here is why: My dad was accused of the crime of linking to a video about Mark Netwon and PEter truong raping babies, then used science against the faggot trolls by saying faggots are more likely to rape kids according to the US library of congress. For making a scientific argument he was sued for his free speech by a gay child fucking pedophile who sends his penis picture to rent boy child prostitutes - you can see the penis picture he sends. unfortunately i can't share the child porn that was in his email box the boy sent back to him.

http://archive.is/bBPyo (see comments too)

https://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/decision/58b7789fe4b058596cba49b5

Mr McKee said that the audio clip and his comment represented a serious and legitimate concern about an increased risk posed to children brought about through commercial surrogacy. He said that he was discussing the nature and risk of paedophilia in connection with the purchase of surrogate babies by male homosexual couples. He said he was motivated not by hate but by an appreciation of the vulnerability and needs of children. Mr McKee said he also considered public discussion of same sex marriage to be important in Australia due to possible changes in the law. He said that the concerns he raised could influence the state of mind of voters in a future referendum on same sex marriage in Australia. Mr McKee said that it was understandable that public discussion of scientific data relating to the relative incidence of paedophilia within the male homosexual community and compared to the male heterosexual community would be strongly resisted by political lobby groups set up to push for same sex marriage. He said that his one paragraph commentary dealt with what he described as “controversial and challenging” child protection concerns in relation to legalised gay marriage between two males of unknown or unverified sexual orientation.

In support of what he said was the academic or scientific basis for the statement made in the second sentence of the publication Mr McKee referred to the article:

“Freund K and Watson R J ‘The proportions of heterosexual and homosexual paedophiles among sex offenders against children: an exploratory study’, Journal Sex Marital Ther. 1992, Spring; 18(1): 34 – 43.”

He said that a hyperlink to this reference was provided in the internet discussion which followed the 30 December 2013 publication. Mr McKee made reference to the abstract of the article on which he says his statement was based. The abstract and the article were in evidence. The abstract read as follows:

“Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20 to 1. The present study investigated whether the aetiology of preferred partner sex among paedophiles is related to the aetiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric tests sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true paedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into account consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual paedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11 to 1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true paedophiles among persons with the homosexual erotic development is greater than in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.”

In his evidence Mr McKee set out his conclusions based upon his reading of the article saying:

“If one is reasonably capable of doing arithmetic, one can roughly apply the above data to, say, a representative sample of 100,000 adults in the Australian population. The ratio of 20:1 referred above implies that there will be 95,200 opposite-sex attracted adults and 4,800 same-sex attracted adults in that sample size. If we now assume, for arguments sake, that approximately 1% of all children suffer from some form of sexual molestation at the hands of an adult, then we can assume that 1000 children have been sexually molested in some way by that sample size of 100,000 adults. The above ratio of 2:1 suggests that, of those 1000 unfortunate children, 667 will be girls and 333 will be boys. The report says that it is rare that an adult female sexually molests a child, so we will ignore such unlikely events and assume that only adult males molest children. Therefore the sample size of 100,000 adults would contain approximately 47,600 opposite-sex attracted males and 2,400 same-sex attracted males. These numbers indicate a ratio of 36 heterosexual adult males per female child sexually molested, but a ratio of 3.6 homosexual males per male child sexually molested. On this simplistic analysis of the data, a homosexual male is 10 times more likely to molest a child than a heterosexual male.

The Respondent's comment that a homosexual male is three (3) times more likely to sexually molest a child than a heterosexual male therefore appears substantiated.”

Mr McKee said that he concluded upon the basis of the material in the article and his calculation as he put it “society faces a significantly increased risk of sexually abused children if two men of unknown and unverified sexual orientation are legally permitted to marry in the same way as a man and woman are legally permitted to marry.”

Mr McKee was cross examined on his expressed motivation for the publication and as to the relative incidence of paedophilia among homosexual persons when compared with heterosexuals. He said that it was “a combination of status quo views combined with concern for scientific data that suggest that homosexual men are ten times more likely to have paedophilic sexual orientation compared to the same sample size of heterosexual males”. He said that this was his opinion based upon his scientific research. He said that he had consulted other people on the technical paper and they had come back with similar conclusions. He did not elaborate on who those people were or the specific nature of their conclusions. He said:

“Even though it’s unpalatable for the homosexual community, the fact is that you can make other generalisations about the homosexual community, for example, ACON says that the use of drugs is much, much higher in the homosexual community that in the heterosexual community, probably by a factor of ten. Justice Kirby says the prevalence of Aids is higher in the homosexual community. That is not inciting hatred. So I say the prevalence – based on my scientific research and my gut feel and based on the YouTube clip that the instance of paedophilic sexual orientation is higher amongst homosexuals than heterosexuals and the YouTube clip demonstrated that”.

He went on to say:

“… but I believe that scientific statement and that’s why I have great concerns about two men of unknown sexual orientation being allowed to marry in Australia and adopt babies. I see an ocean of suffering in the future caused by this. I am entitled to have that pessimistic view of same sex marriage – mainly between men …”.

Mr McKee was also cross examined on the difference between the publication in which he stated that homosexual men are three times more likely to commit sex crimes against children and his statement in the evidence in which he said they were ten times more likely to offend. He responded:

“The three times was a less onerous comment. That was based on calculations done at the time based on percentaging the Australian census … number of homosexuals in the Australian population based on the 10% figure that 10% of all crimes against children were done by homosexual paedophiles, whereas when I researched the actual scientific paper and did calculations on a spreadsheet it came out at ten times …”.

On further questioning Mr McKee said that it was his honest belief based on his research that homosexual men are ten times more likely to have paedophilic sexual orientation compared with the same sample size of heterosexual men and that he was being conservative in the estimate contained in the publication.

DarkMath ago

"It's personal here is why"

I believe you and can easily see there's a valid reason for you anger. It must be infuriating. What happened to your Dad is exactly the reason I couldn't live in Australia. There is no deep rooted desire to fight for freedom. People like you are the exception not the rule over there.

My only advice is manage your anger better. Keep your powder dry. You were attacking me and I can assure you the rage you feel couldn't hold a candle to what I've got inside of me. I'm just better at managing my anger.

Revenge is a dish that's best served cold. And violence is always the last resort. The pen is faaaaaar mightier than the sword. People losing their shit is exactly what these people want. It makes it easier for their police state to take you out.

The way this war will be won is simply by letting the truth be told. It's the easiest war in History to win. Keep the faith. Those at the top are going to hang from the gallows pole and they know it.

They've got the watches but we've got the time.

:-D

hojuruku ago

if you see the most recent mention you got you can see I was angry you were also trolling me for exposing other democrat pedophile operatives like Tim Gill who repeals laws that makes pedophiles stay in jail longer.

We can't reconcile this. But I can DE-escalate the hostilities.

DarkMath ago

"you were also trolling me for exposing other democrat pedophile operatives like Tim Gill"

I'm not lying when I tell you I wasn't trolling you for exposing anyone. And I don't think I was even trolling you at all. I actually don't even know who Tim Gill is.

Seriously dude I want to clear the air with you but I'm not even sure what you think I did. I'll do whatever you want to smooth things over. I have no desire to fight with you. I'm actually just as anti-Pedophile as you are and probably more so. You're fighting the good fight but you need to be cool.

Ever hear of Robespierre and his downfall during the French Revolution? He lead the charge against the French Aristocracy. He took them on almost single handedly. Then he started attacking anyone that would criticize him. He thought everyone was out to get him and he start killing friend and foe alike.

Long story short he was one of the last to get guillotined because he wouldn't listen to reason. I'm not saying you'll get "guillotined" I'm just saying in these kind of things it's easy for people to become judge, jury and executioner. They stop being rational and then everything turns to shit.

:-D

hojuruku ago

Nazi race mixer with Asian wife.... interesting concept faggot

http://www.renegadebroadcasting.com/twos-company-threes-allowed-luke-mckee-4-7-16/

hojuruku ago

I'm right about him being Drew West Press - doing the same stalking tactics on my youtube channel. That's why he wont.

Did you see this drew west press video ? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056214

nameof ago

Im going to look at all this shit at the library my hand is hot. It is important. You are probably fuking right he's everywhere on voat and pissing people off , on a list this and that so...heard it before. Trust and believer don't let him get the best of your research time. Ie. CRITICAL info. Thank you

hojuruku ago

I've shaken you by doxxing you haven't I? It shows... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056214

Call me up anonymously through talkshoe. I wont know where you are - you can use skype to call american number, or sip over the internet for free. Debate me with your voice just like you are doing with your keyboard. It wil prove to all I was wrong about you being Drew west Press. You don't want to prove me wrong, because all can see I am right about you being a faggot pedophilia normalization activist and NAMBLA supporter as exposed on the thread above.

Find me one homosexual who is against gay judges prosecuting people for pointing out Obama is friends with "Queer Hero" (you guys said it not me) Terry Bean who disappears his child rape victims. https://www.quora.com/Who-would-you-trust-alone-with-your-kids-Obama-or-Trump/answer/Luke-McKee-1 Here's the details on Australian gay judges ruling that those who fuck babies must be respected because a gay must never be vilified no matter how loud his child sex russian infant victim (who's photo you can see on this link) SCREAMS!

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2056942/10145520

DarkMath ago

"Find me one homosexual who is against gay judges"

You are using a logical fallacy called the Burden of Proof Fallacy. Here's its definition:

burden of proof

You said that the burden of proof lies not with the person making the claim, but with someone else to disprove.

The burden of proof lies with someone who is making a claim, and is not upon anyone else to disprove. The inability, or disinclination, to disprove a claim does not render that claim valid, nor give it any credence whatsoever. However it is important to note that we can never be certain of anything, and so we must assign value to any claim based on the available evidence, and to dismiss something on the basis that it hasn't been proven beyond all doubt is also fallacious reasoning.

Example: Bertrand declares that a teapot is, at this very moment, in orbit around the Sun between the Earth and Mars, and that because no one can prove him wrong, his claim is therefore a valid one.

:-D

hojuruku ago

are you using the same website I used against you and pisstaked the fuck out of you with? https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/2054475/10134410

Anyone can see you can't disprove the claims I made against you. You don't want to pick up the phone and prove me wrong. It's not fucken hard to call me up anon using talkshoe.com You can debate me live, I wont even mute you. We can make a podcast going at it - and all of /pizzagate/ will get some entertainment. Rather than seeing your whining posts, people can hear your whining voice. It will be awesome.

And cunt when you quote me, take the full sentence because we know that's not a proper quote.

Proving where a teapot is around mars, and picking up the phone to call me so we can hear your voice and you can prove you are not the child sex dolls for pedos lover Drew West News isn't apples for APPLES.

It's actually possible to provide the proof I'm seeking not something IMPOSSIBLE. So you didn't even use the logical fallacy website properly you fucken moron.

DarkMath ago

"Anyone can see you can't disprove the claims I made against you. "

You claimed I'm "Drew West Best" based on your "analysis" of my sentence structure.

O_O

That's your "proof".

You're a fucking idiot.

:-D

hojuruku ago

The burden of proof to debunk my claims based on circumstance evidence is call me up and make fun of me for how wrong I am but you can't do that. You are digging yourself a hole.

If you are afraid how am I going to get you? Talkshoe.com will hide your phone number etc etc. Sign up on the site now and play with it to make sure it's legit or choose another way to TALK.

DarkMath ago

"The burden of proof to debunk my claims based on circumstance evidence is call me up"

Why would I want to talk to a borderline psychotic? It's unpleasant enough interacting with you in comments. You think I'd want to fucking talk to you on the phone?

You're out of your fucking mind.

hojuruku ago

Drew West Press go fuck yourself - This stigma of supporting pedos to get kiddy fuck dolls and trying to deny that NAMBLA icons are forced on little kids by Californian Bill SB 48 as a topic to be studied will follow you around pizzagate until you prove me wrong. Why don't you call up someone else on talkshoe or some other website to debunk me?

It may not prove anything if you don't line it up right fucken now. All you have to do on the call to totally debunk me is within 10 seconds paste a phrase that I tell you to paste. OR we can get someone else like @mark_luke to debate you. Your running out of excuses.

DarkMath ago

"Drew West Press go fuck yourself"

I'm not Drew West Press.

"All you have to do on the call to totally debunk me is within 10 seconds"

Dipshit there is no way in hell I would get on the phone and talk to you or anyone associated with you. You are out of your fucking mind. Get it?

YOU ARE FUCKING INSANE.

You scare people here. You're a bully and an ass-hole. Go fuck yourself.

:-D

hojuruku ago

I'm a UNHCR confirmed political refugee from faggot bullies using a law that the gay rights spokesperson for the GREENS SAID IN HANSARD ONLY CORRUPT POLICE WOULD USE before only faggot http://facebook.com/policeglbti used the law. 60C NSW Crimes Act - google it - only I come up.

HAHAA I am setting up victimsofgaybullying.com launching soon. And i'm the fucken bully?????????

Lee Rhiannon is quoted saying that here with links to Hansard - political record https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t657534/

I have UNHCR political refugee status because of gay pedo bullies: https://www.scribd.com/doc/59837937/Luke-McKee-a-UNCHR-refugee-from-gay-police-persecution

Lee Rhiannon on video screaming for a baby fucker FBI fugative to get a VISA as a gay rights issue! https://independentaustralia.net/life/life-display/at-home-with-scomo-and-jen,10258#comment-3286562601

This guy http://twitter.com/slurptea1 http://theothermccain.com/2016/05/14/australian-gay-marriage-crusader-was-fugitive-wanted-on-kiddie-porn-charge/ http://bernardgaynor.co.au/happy

Lee Rhainanon says it's hate speech to point out her support for jailed baby fuckers to +1 their illegal immigrant paki overstayer photographer mates into the country and put an arrest warrant on me for exposing her love of those who fuck babies and are LGBTI activists.