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keyboard12 ago

This is so obviously disinformation masking as a research post.

AcrobatAnthromorphic ago

Jean Benet Ramsay had coloboma... https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1781232#submissionTop

keyboard12 ago

That post cites this article: https://www.ijhssnet.com/journals/Vol_3_No_15_August_2013/1.pdf

Nowhere in that article does it say that JBR had coloboma.

keyboard12 ago

Madeleine Beth McCann, a young English girl, was abducted from an holiday apartment at the Ocean Club resort of Praia da Luz in south west Portugal. She was about to turn four on May 12. She was blond, one eye was green and blue, the other green, and her right eye had a marking called a coloboma, which is where the pupil runs into the iris in the form of black radial strip.

Yes, McCann had coloboma. That's what that sentence states.

keyboard12 ago

That does not look like a fish.

DreidelDance ago

What does it look like to you?

keyboard12 ago

A defensive scratch or possibly a knife cut. I'm not seeing fish though.

DreidelDance ago

What did the FBI say it looked like?

HollandDrive ago

You are outing your self with this stupid association. And Podesta was referencing "environmental concerns" there in the photo.

Jem777 ago

Environmental concerns....you know that is a joke. That is Osiris and is is evil and you know it.

HollandDrive ago

OK, slow down here. I was saying, firstly, that the guy is being stupid equating a wound on Benet's hand with a fish. That's a huge leap. Second, I want to believe, same as you, that it is an occultic shout-out (on Podesta's hand) ... but hasn't it been proven it has to do with the environment and the oceans? (It came from a tweet.) It's possible he's implying a double meaning I'll grant that.

MyNameIsLuka ago

The drawing on JonBenet's hand looks similar to the fish on Podesta's hand imo.

Jem777 ago

Okay but it did not come from a tweet. It has been proven from his own emails that he practices the religion of Thelma thelmaic which was written by Aleister Crowley the SELF identified "666, beast"

The Thelma religion is based on the concepts of Egyptian mythology and Osiris the god of the underworld. It directly uses the #14 as in the number of body parts chopped up in a ritual. Restoration or salvation occurrs through cannabilism of the final part which is the penis. The Osiris story is also about incest in families I won't go into the gory details. It is all occult.

The "spirit cooking" recipe and ritual for cutting the middle finger as shown in Marina Abramovich work is in Aleister Crowley's written works of black majick.

Many emails, pictures, tweets, historical texts, eye witness testimony have been given.

Many emails and messages of HRC & Podesta & DC insiders have documented proof of practicing Thelma or other rituals. That is the occult. The black majick and everyone should wake up to that fact.

HollandDrive ago

It's from a Podesta email. https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/39999

It's been discussed here on Voat. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1435485

Possible there's a double meaning, I don't know. I appreciate the info you shared, I need to do some more research about the subject.

keyboard12 ago

I don't know... I'm not in the FBI. Do you know the answer to that?

privatepizza ago

Can you give examples / sources on why this is a shill post and irrelevant to the investigation? I see you're pretty new here. Welcome.

keyboard12 ago

The McCann lead is pushed frequently by shills and disinformation agents who usually "prove it" with something along the lines of "Podesta confirmed in Portugal at time of disappearance!" Except that was never confirmed. The link there is possible but not concrete.

The coincidence that she and Soros both have coloboma is just the sort of thing shills would latch onto to push the McCann narrative. Gerry McCann tie in is pretty flimsy. You have to be able to see that.

Agreed that Soros funding Kushner is shitty but it doesn't tie in to pizzagate AT ALL.

Classic shill tactic of loosely associating things together to try to connect them in your mind and derail the conversation.

Thanks for the welcome. I lurked for a long time before making an account. so not really that new but appreciate the sentiment.

HollandDrive ago

Thanks for explaining (why these are shills) ... I've no energy to do it. I love this line from their post (not):

tetrahydrocannabinol exposure. Such processes would be invaluable to scientists who wish to live forever, for if you are able to maintain telomere length, you can experience cell division indefinitely.

Jem777 ago

It is so fascinating to watch people claim how smart they are then when big words are used they call someone disinfo. stunning.

The OP should have used crayons

HollandDrive ago

I didn't (nor don't) make any claims like that (being smart), maybe you're thinking of someone else?

V____Z ago

I haven't seen any serious debunking of the McCain connection, it has been discussed here in depth. It only leads to more questions. Can you show me where it has been debunked?

LostandFound ago

Shilling hard today, I think the op and keyboard12 are all participants in some story telling bunch of McCann Colombana stories spring up weak arguments and the shootdowns seem scripted. Dont entertain them with your time, heads up @privatepizza

Edit: re McCann theres definitely a story there just not this story

privatepizza ago

I'm hearin ya, thanks for the heads up ;)

keyboard12 ago

I didn't say it has been and I don't think it will be. I think it's an open lead that will likely not go anywhere and it's being pushed so that people focus on the wrong things.

privatepizza ago

I personally wonder why you're concerned about people focusing on the 'Wrong Things'. I would ask, who are you to decide what people focus on? And why you're so fast to disparage this research when it could be of interest?

I would say that it's not up to you to decide what people research. You say yourself that it's an OPEN LEAD. Why disparage the OP then?

keyboard12 ago

Should I also be limited in pointing out misdirection when I feel I see it?

privatepizza ago

NO ! Not at all, but give citations / counter arguments rather than insults, because doing this makes you look disingenuous at least.

keyboard12 ago

Since it's all speculation, it's kind of hard to cite. I'm also not saying I think the mccann lead is a red herring. I do think that disinformation agents have picked up on it and turned it into a wild goose chase involving eye deformations, cloning, microchipping etc and that the affiliations are loose at best.

privatepizza ago

I appreciate your opinion, said like this, I really do. Personally I'm on the fence about this, but * circumstantial evidence * says we have something to look at. In this case, why shut down others research on it? Really, every little thing (info) helps, and we'll find out in the end what's correct. But to shut down others discussing it, who have obviously put time into posting, isn't maybe the best approach, as it dis-encourages others to look at it.

If we don't care about the subject, no problem! I for one wouldn't downvoat someone who IS caring, and possibly revealing new info.

keyboard12 ago

Fair enough.

privatepizza ago

Cool, appreciate that.

privatepizza ago

To be citing Shill Tactics, you don't half display the appearance of one.

The McCann lead is pushed frequently by shills and disinformation agents who usually "prove it" with something along the lines of "Podesta confirmed in Portugal at time of disappearance!" Except that was never confirmed. The link there is possible but not concrete.

If it hasn't been proven, why disregard it?

The coincidence that she and Soros both have coloboma is just the sort of thing shills would latch onto to push the McCann narrative. Gerry McCann tie in is pretty flimsy. You have to be able to see that.

The amount of shilling on this subject may tell us, don't you think, what's really going on with this case? IF unproven, why are you so vehement in dis-crying it?

Agreed that Soros funding Kushner is shitty but it doesn't tie in to pizzagate AT ALL.

If you don't have concrete reasons why it doesn't tie in, why be shilling it?

Classic shill tactic of loosely associating things together to try to connect them in your mind and derail the conversation.

Far from 'loosely accociating things to try to connect them in our minds, we are joining the dots, if there are indeed any. Why put people off them when you have no concrete evidence to the contrary, other than disparaging genuine citizen investigators?

Thanks for the welcome. I lurked for a long time before making an account. so not really that new but appreciate the sentiment.

Yes well, I believe you but thousands wouldn't. With this shit you look like a paid shill-head. GTFO unless you've anything positive to say.

YingYangMom ago

Well said.

LostandFound ago

Haha nice! I didnt see your last response before pinging you. Best BTFO post I have seen in a while, see this burn /\ @V____Z

V____Z ago

One of those upvotes is mine ;)

privatepizza ago

; ) Cheers friend

AcrobatAnthromorphic ago

Which part?

keyboard12 ago

All of it! It's leading users away from legitimate leads to focus on ridiculousness.

AcrobatAnthromorphic ago

Do you seriously believe that?

keyboard12 ago

Yeah and I'm pretty sure anyone with a brain can see these connections don't have anything to do with the bottom line of pizzagate.

privatepizza ago

FO out of here, shill. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE INVESTIGATING, FUCKWIT>

keyboard12 ago

I take the time to write up why I think this is deliberate disinformation and this is the reply I get? I didn't talk to you like that. Now I think you're probably perpetuating this disinformation on purpose too.

privatepizza ago

It's not disinformation. If it is, prove with citations rather than insults to the people here, rather than disparaging comments.

AcrobatAnthromorphic ago

If the child trafficking forms the blackmail basis, it means there is an upper agenda upon which the blackmailing relies and here you have it.