cruztobar ago

Not sure if this was covered here or elsewhere..as I'm relatively new ...but I just read some of the names involved in Edgar Welch case. It appears Judge Trafford used to work at the Mental Health division of the DC public Defender..the same office defending Welch. Not only did judge Trafford work their she was also a subordinate and had a extra marital relationship to Charles Rust-Tierney and with Rust Tierney 's son both having been caught in criminal dusts ups. Rust-Tierney had tapes of forced assault on kids and infants. He was also coach to little league teams (possible connection to Sandusky ?) . Rust Tierney was head of Virginia ACLU..but he was nice guy right ? Then we go the Seattle judge who TRO'd Trump temporary travel ban. Well he was head of some children advocacy group in Washingont. Former President and Trustee, Seattle Children’s Home. Former Co-Chair, Second Century Society, Children’s Home Society of Washington. Former Member, State Advisory Board and Former Trustee, Children’s Home Society of Washington. During his tenure as boardmember and trustee ever since 1990's there have been allegations of rape and molestation at the Seattle Childrens home. see http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/former-counselor-pleads-guilty-to-child-sex-abuse/
Also it was finally closed after children's charity which was run by Dr David Scratchley who was arrested for raping a 10 yo boy! We know sick people are attracted to fields where the sickness takes them..but why protect them unless you are also them ?

parcelsus ago

I'm not familiar with the legal terminology here: https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/33f0rw6ts/district-of-columbia-district-court/usa-v-welch/

Does "Bond Status of Defendant: Committed/Commitment" tell us anything about whether he's being detained or not?

e-traiu ago

accuracy in question... why?

v4Zz ago

What verification? IF you archive your links, maybe we could see what you're talking about. But there's nothing there. ARCHIVE AND SAVE EVERY FUCKING IMPORTANT LINK.

Red4reel35 ago

So that is odd since the gun laws are very strict in the District of Columbia , wonder how many of these " Crisis actors " there are. Bringing a gun into D.C. is a whole world of trouble https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_the_District_of_Columbia

unbiased_researcher ago

"Naga...naga...Not gonna work here anymore anyway."

TrollMagnet ago

WOW! I expanded the search just to double check. How the fuck is this possible, AND it went unreported? I know everything MSM is crooked, but how would so many alternative news outlets miss this? Am I wrong? Anyone pick up this story?

InfoWarsDotComFan ago

This is Edgar's dad, Harry Welch's site, before it was taken down. https://web.archive.org/web/20161028085926/http://foreveryoungproductions.com/home.htm I was the first person to post on The_Donald about him being an actor. It's just a habit for me to look up someone on IMDB whenever a crisis happens. https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5gjqyk/can_someone_confirm_this_is_the_same_guy_as_ping/

Beaucephus ago

I learned something new today. Tnx

GeorgeT ago

Would not do any good for validating pizzagate. Leave reptilians out of it. Pedophiles are everywhere.

nitro169 ago

So what about the 13 yr old boy? Was Welch charged for that?

Beaucephus ago

apparently not. There is no case pending.

GeorgeT ago

Great one. This is a smoking gun. Just as it should have played out! He had apparently injured a teenager via negligent driving and with this stunt he cut a plea deal.

Beaucephus ago

That's the understanding I have as well. Cutting a deal. But make sure to note my amendment, the case was transferred to the US District Court and he is still "in the system" awaiting his court date. Probably cut a deal, seal records and we won't hear anything about him again.

Karlhungus80 ago

It's also possible that the feds are less corrupt than the local courts (NEVER thought I'd say that, but we're talking about DC cops and DA's here). Keep the faith man, this is getting exposed.

JoJoVoat ago

Im confused... how can case be dismissed on 12/31 then moved to US District court much later?

Beaucephus ago

My understanding is 12/13 the case was dismissed from the local courts and referred to the federal court (US District Court) immediately. This was the reason for my initial confusion because they are both DC courts, so when I searched the DC court system, there was no pending case.

JoJoVoat ago

Well look at you!!! HMMMM>... could this be any more of a set up!!

Long_Knife ago

"proof"

Beaucephus ago

I noticed that myself. Definitely not normal for a random guy to be getting a protection order. Pretty sure that means he will be separated from general population in jail while he awaits his arraignment.

Hey_Sunshine ago

I wonder if they still have that armed officer on scene?

Phenomenonanon ago

Where's JA. He must be p-o-ed

conspiracyprincess ago

And they have this obsession with eating pizza! Maybe the ninja turtles ARE REAL. -I'm speaking on a serious note...

Gumbatron ago

At that point, there'd have to be a whole lotta' people who would be "all outa gum" so to speak.

They Live! We Sleep!

GhostOfSwartz ago

I posted this question the other day but didn't get a response. I saw an infographic about Welch supposedly worked at Goat Hill Pizza. I couldn't find it anywhere. Does anyone else know the answer?

Stknstnz ago

On behalf of actors, SAG, AFTRA, and AEA, I would like to say I'm sorry for this and Sandy Hook. It's tough to make a livin in this biz, and always tough to turn down work. Even if it's for Satan's Lizard Demons. I told my agent not even to tell me if they call. I don't want the temptation.

Sheilaaliens ago

Need further verification, see for yourself

That link leads to no results.

Beaucephus ago

You just have to enter Edgar Welch, but I posted an update that the case got moved to the US Court which is also in DC. That was the confusion.

Sheilaaliens ago

I tried to find the police scanner audio from that date/time in DC back when this took place. Police scanners in that area are encrypted for the most-part but I did find this snippet that matched the timeframe: http://chirb.it/33tchf - some guy screaming in a store at customers, something about being in a cult.

Beaucephus ago

No exact time stamps on the audio. Kinda sucks.

kekistocrat ago

First, I would take the 'accuracy in question' bit in stride; just what happens with relevant threads here on voat. One must call it like one sees it -- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1470365/7121491. Second, unfortunately, most people are looking for 'smoking gun' proof or a fucking confession or whatever 'solid' proof that we're never going to get because these pieces of turd do it like the spooks; Admit nothing, deny everything. I want solid evidence, too, but, in retrospect, did this entire investigation start off with solid evidence or coincidence?

Beaucephus ago

The case was moved to the US court that is also in DC so that was the confusion. There is still a lot of good info coming from the court documents, though.

kekistocrat ago

Ah, didn't see the update...

Beaucephus ago

You're not alone. I've been trying to respond to each person but am also getting caught up in other things right now

Beaucephus ago

The case was moved to the US court which is also in DC so that was the confusion. There is still a lot of good info coming from the court documents, though.

Bindlestiff ago

The martial art of Judo involves using the enemies momentum against them, and the principle applies just as much to psychological combat as it does physical combat.

For example, there are two opposing sides of #pizzagate. The opposition asserts that:

  1. comet ping pong is a victim of a vicious defamation campaign being waged by right wing zealots.

  2. Their hate campaign has inspired one of the zealots to come completely unhinged and attempt a spree killing in their establishment.

The strategy (if you can even call it that) being advocated is to make noise and call bullshit. Which will, of course, be ignored.

But what if, instead, people sought out the management of comet ping pong, and told them the news about the charges being dropped? What if people asked them for their opinions of this horrible miscarriage of justice? What if people informed the media about the "right wing judge that dropped charges against the comet ping pong shooter"? What if people took to social media and proclaimed "this right wing violence and intimidation has gone too far! we need to fight back!" What if people accused the outlets that refused to cover it of being right wing reactionary sympathizers?

  1. the people that work at comet ping pong will have to lie and feign outrage, or lie and justify the release of the man that came into their establishment with a gun and tried to kill people.

  2. the media will have to cover the news of the release of the shooter, or suffer the backlash of being labeled as right wing sympathizers.

  3. The opposition will not be able to tell the trolls from the useful idiots swept up in the psy-op.

  4. Useful idiots will get sucked in by the headline and get redpilled when they start doing further research. the denial by the trolls and masterminds that have been manipulating them will drive them to the other (our) side and pressure will mount even more ans the MSM and powers that be lose control of the narrative.

Letting this man go was the stupidest thing they could have done and a huge tactical blunder on their part. but then again, I'm just a guy on the internet. The people involved have much more experience in this area that I do and are probably several steps ahead of me in the info-war department.

privatepizza ago

Guy on the internet, You Rock . Be our leader.

nitro169 ago

The court would re-evaluate the prior request for sealing the record and grant because of the greater good, so I would wait until everything is completed via the courts, then this method may work

druhill007 ago

Love the tactical input. We need more of it :)

Beaucephus ago

The case was moved to the US court system (In DC, that's the confusion) so we will see what comes of things. I have a feeling Welch won't be seen again upon his release.

cantsleepawink ago

Edward Welch represented by Suite 550, Danielle Courtney Jahn https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/33f0rw6ts/district-of-columbia-district-court/usa-v-welch/

Jahn is affiliated with Law Offices of ALFRED E. HUBBARD (Unknown Firm) https://www.plainsite.org/attorneys/office-of-defender-services/danielle-courtney-jahn/

Who is Alfred E. Hubbard ?

Blacksmith21 ago

Here are the suspicious parts:

1) MPD dropped the charges. Firearms charges. On non-federal property. They never, ever do that and there are plenty of examples, even weeks before EMW's arrest to support that.

2) EMW was granted access to a video teleconference system, pre-arraignment, so he ould conduct an interview with the New York Times. Again, this never happens.

3) At that time, MPD 2D had approximately 30% body cameras issued. No video exists of the ordeal.

4) Nothing matches between the eyewitness accounts, the discharge of the firearms, the charging documents, etc. And WTF owns an AR chambered in 9mm? Oh, someone that needed to more safely discharge a firearm in a live fire exercise. Or, shoot a hard drive without over penetration.

nitro169 ago

Also... Street Cameras were moved prior to event. Street was prep'd prior to event. Welchs' phone records were sealed upon first appearance so nobody can see who he was speaking with prior to the incident.

Beaucephus ago

I head the timeframe was listed as 20 minutes from the time he entered the building until the last patron ran out. That's an awful long time considering he didn't face kidnap charges.

quantokitty ago

Can't they even try to make these look legitimate?

Why bother? If you haven't been red-pilled, you're not going to believe this, anyway.

draegspir ago

Very interesting..

remedy4reality ago

...and an intelligence apparatus that regularly accesses these drone figures to run false flags on the American people.

It's HIGH TREASON.

Not_A_Large_Duck ago

IMO archive this and update the wikipedia with sources and archive that as well with timestamp and then see how fast it's whitewashed.

Dejure ago

Man, it would be cool if we so.e one with a pacer account to get the "hawt dox"!

Blacksmith21 ago

No offense, but none of this is new. All of this has been documented previously. DC dropped the charges, remanding EMW over to Federal custody. Supposedly, Federal charges were filed, and he has had pre-trial hearings, but he doesn't appear anywhere in the Federal system. His next appearance in Federal court (under a real judge) is 06 Mar. This is a continuance form his previous appearance date.

Beaucephus ago

That is very telling, isn't it?

Another corrupt pedo-tician in our government.

abortionburger ago

@beaucephus I'm flairing this as "possible disinformation" because the DC Clerk of Courts site shows that he was arrested by the feds right after the local guys dropped the charges. You could be right, I just don't want people jumping to conclusions.

Edit: I changed my mind to Accuracy in Question

Beaucephus ago

I've added the update links to the OP.

HolyMoly0 ago

This whole post is very misleading, OP. His case has been dropped by the police cause it was handed over to the feds. And don't claim that same name = same guy.

Please. You need to correct this.

Beaucephus ago

If you read the OP, I made the correction 15 minutes ago

HolyMoly0 ago

Gotcha. My bad. You must have done it while I was reading through everything.

Beaucephus ago

Don't worry, you're not the only one. I would take the post down, but there is still good info in it and I can't take down a post.

kekistocrat ago

https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1634994/7984933 --

edit: no different than 'Omar Mateen' and the Orlando Hoax; mateen employed by G4S with ties to CrisisCast the Crisis Actor firm and then there's the movie he starred in... Actors... filthy actors.

VoaterFrog ago

Wait wait.... Orlando Hoax?

kekistocrat ago

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=orlando+hoax -- peekay's videos are pretty good. Yes, hoax. This is one of the ways people tell the shills from the real ones -- shills present hoaxes as false flags (gatekeeping) and hold fast to the narrative. In orlando, the 'victims' were seen being transported towards the pulse nightclub and not away from. Norman Cassiano or Angel Colon (can't remember which) was allegedly shot four times in the back with .223 bullets and let out the following day?!? Orlando was one of the sloppiest of idiotic hoaxes with Crisis Actors abound (Leinonen going for gun control immediately/ Fatpatriot guy is an actor/dancer/etc.) Staging area in full view (there are better areal views). Much more... For gun control,.. they just got a large portion of the LGBT crowd lobbied to the gun control agenda. This is Cultural Hegemony and Identity Politics at it's finest.

Silex ago

Yeah, having been a spectactor/researcher in everything false flag/hoax for a while, I have learned that many crisis actors are a mixed bag of 1-depraved narcissists wanting to be seen, regardless of morality 2-Poor minded people who just will do anything for money 3-low life scums with criminal charges against them (recent or not), having bargained to have them cleaned off their record in exchange for their part in a stage event. 4-Professionals (security services and agencies/alphabets/former soldiers/media people) who are protected by politicians/media conglomerates through personal contact (read «....AND/OR BLACKMAIL»), serving the agendas of their masters.

neo50 ago

It looks like the charges were dropped by District of Columbia and charges filed by the U.S. Marshal Service. In the messages column (in your link above) for one of the 12-13-16 docket dates, it says, "Government dismissed the case without prejudice at this time; A federal arrest warrant has been filed against the defendant and will be executed by the USMS following the proceedings."

He is scheduled to be in court March, 6, 2017 according to this article (scroll to 2nd story)

http://www.heralddemocrat.com/news/20170211/protesters-block-devos-as-she-tries-to-enter-dc-public-school-and-other-news-in-brief

kneo24 ago

Just a couple of questions here.

Does Justia differentiate between local, state, and federal jurisdictions? Is it for only one of those jurisdictions?

Am I reading the Gyazo link correctly? It seems there's a motion to dismiss this case since there's a pending federal case, and therefore the judge agreed and dismissed this case.

Beaucephus ago

I think you're right. It looks like they got switched to Sherry Trafford, then had her dismiss the charges and release him over to the Marshals for filing interstate transportation of a firearm.

dmthirdeye ago

We all knew it...

madmanpg ago

Also, what does this mean?

Government dismissed the case against the defendant without prejudice at this time; a federal arrest warrant has been filed against the defendant and will be executed by the USMS following the adjournment of this proceedings.

The case is dismissed, but then the US Marshals are going to arrest him? Sounds like they're handing him over to another agency for the kill.

Gothamgirl ago

It means the United States Marshall service will be locking him up for a warrant, most likely another jurisdiction.

Beaucephus ago

That's how I'm seeing it too

madmanpg ago

Well then, the dismissal of the charges isn't nearly as suspicious, I would say. And as you haven't proven that the agent in question is bogus, I don't really see the proof of anything here, other than agencies fighting over who gets the credit.

GeorgeT ago

The guy is a crisis actor, plea deal was in place.

Beaucephus ago

I personally don't give a damn about the agents background. It will be shrouded in illusion, impossible to track anyway. Not worth looking into, IMO.

madmanpg ago

I personally don't give a damn about the agents background.

Dude, the first claim you make in your post is that a supposed federal agent has a double identity, and then you never prove it, and now you're saying it's not important. If it wasn't important, why did you mention it in the first place? The more you dismiss this part of your post, the more this is seeming like disinfo.

Mrs_Ogynist01 ago

I'm confused because he's still on the docket for March 6th - https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/CourtSched.pl

https://i.imgtc.com/9WiSd7K.png

Here is more information - https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/33fhpip1q/district-of-columbia-district-court/usa-v-welch/

Maybe the charges were dropped by the local courts and refiled when his case was transferred to the Federal Court?

Beaucephus ago

Now I'm confused as well, because the records I pulled were from the same court. The District of Columbia Court system. But looking at the charges, they may have dropped the initial charges and filed for interstate carrying of firearm.

madmanpg ago

Did you know that in the Affidavit of Criminal Complaint the FBI Investigator in charge of the case is actually a cameraman for Fox 16 News in Tulsa?

Them having the same names isn't proof of anything. Are you saying there's only one Justin Holgate in America? It'd be more suspicious if they were both from the same area, but they aren't. They're hundreds of miles apart.

Folks: don't claim two people with the same name are the same person until you have proof. We've been down this road before since the very beginning of pizzagate and people have concocted what turned out to be BS accusations against others who had the misfortune of having the same name as someone.

Beaucephus ago

He was a sportscaster. His picture is available for comparison. It wasn't in the least bit important in my findings, so I didn't bother posting the chain to provide people the walk-through. Do your own research on it if you like.

madmanpg ago

It wasn't in the least bit important in my findings

Uh, yeah it is, because you're making a serious claim here, and your title claims proof. This is not proof. This is an unsubstantiated accusation. I am not doing your homework. Either prove what you claim, or you're just speculating and lying about it being proven.

Seriously, what you typed here?

It wasn't in the least bit important in my findings, so I didn't bother posting the chain to provide people the walk-through.

...SHOULD NEVER BE IN ONE OF THESE POSTS. Either provide evidence, or don't bother posting. This is an investigation, not a haven for wild speculation.

2impendingdoom ago

The WaPo /AP surrender photo by Sathi Soma via AP/AP is interesting because the camera angle shows that the photographer was inside the cafe across the street's in the seating area, which to me, indicated that it was stake out planned shot, that they were already there drinking coffee or something. I mean if this person got a call to head down there, or was on a scanner and just showed up, why would they go behind this metal fence?

RebelSkum ago

The image of the case dismissal states he is to be immediately arrested by federal investigators and the case resumed by them, so this is just the D.C. investigation being handed over. See where it says: "a federal arrest warrant has been filed..."

I reported a little over a week ago that he pled not guilty to all charges, however, despite ongoing plea deals.

https://steemit.com/pizzagate/@rebelskum/comet-ping-pong-gunman-pleads-not-guilty-to-all-charges

Beaucephus ago

Can you find any court cases pending or documents that verify he is still in custody awaiting trial?

RebelSkum ago

No public records yet, but plenty of press:

The move to federal court: http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Who-Fired-Shots-in-Comet-Ping-Pong-Expected-in-Court-406223705.html

The plea deal:

During a Jan. 24 status hearing at the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, Assistant U.S. Attorney Demian Ahn told a federal judge a plea offer had been made to Edgar Maddison Welch, 29, who has been charged with multiple federal and D.C. gun-related offenses in connection with the Comet pizza case.

http://www.washingtonblade.com/2017/01/25/prosecutors-offer-plea-deal-comet-pizza-gunman/

And the plea of not guilty: http://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/nation-world/national/article131978904.html

NotAnIdiot ago

Handing over the investigation to the Feds may open up another rabbit hole though.

Rmm ago

Wonder if this will be the talk of the town of the msm? I think we already know the answer, which is "no" (Because the slumbering sheep have probably already forgotten ALL about Comet Ping Pong's brush with "violence"

Beaucephus ago

Made another post above or below with WaPo running an article 2 days after he was released stating "Additional charges pending". They're running blind with the piece.

Beaucephus ago

Apparently this information is not welcome over at Reddit! Tried posting 2x's now and it never seems to appear. I expect my username to get deleted soon.

hels ago

Are you posting it in /r/conspiracy?

Beaucephus ago

No, I had to update it anyway so it doesn't matter now. The case was moved from DC CIrcuit court to US Circuit court in DC. That was the mistake. We live and learn, but there is still some good info coming out of this thread.

kekistocrat ago

There are several on this board (including myself) who have reason to believe that the mods from reddit infected voat a while back.

hels ago

What is your reasoning?

kekistocrat ago

Educated hunch... (Joking) -- right around Nov. 2016 there was an exodus from reddit to voat and I personally witnessed a consistent narrative/NLP/disinformation tactic being used in both the OPs and the comments across the reddit/chan/voat boards. As well, another voater had compiled a list of images and links that built a bigger picture scenario of reddit/voat where mods had various alts across these boards, 32 votes from same computer, etc. Also, deletion/flairing of relevant posts consistent with topics and mods (which is what I thought was happening here but apparently not.) Can't provide links as SLI.mg is down?, am on mobile, and I am not trying to build a case...

hels ago

I appreciate the reply. I have heard many posters mention this and I always ask for evidence. You are the first poster to actually respond and I do appreciate that.

kekistocrat ago

kekistocrat ago

Sure thing. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1504081/7304410 -- expand all of the comments and one can see clearly all of the phuckery going on with all of the deleted comments (especially the last one, sanegoat names the phucker.) the archive link shows the pizzathrowaway mod account. As well, I've had some dealings in the past with 'ole Phorest Gump -- https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1470365/7121491 and all of his ph_allacies...

joey4track ago

Reddit seems like it's been totally been taken over. I really think they have people round the clock just ready to downvote PG stuff.

DarkMath ago

I got a joke for everyone.

Edgar Welch's sister walks into a bar looking for her friend Gary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8XrE0FSQv4&feature=youtu.be&t=21

(that's the joke, sorry, I can't stop, it's too funny)

Atatarkus ago

Edgar Welchs understanding of marketing

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2BT7_owW2sU

Actually can't stop laughing at this and I have a broken rib. Ouch hahaha

DarkMath ago

ROFLMAO. That was fucking priceless.

kekistocrat ago

Case in point -- Patsy/Crisis Actor right from the start. Everyone that called this for what it was, celebrate (Shadilay?!?) and help others to see how these are staged events. The sooner we get everyone on this page, the sooner we can get past this page.

Beaucephus ago

I tweeted a link to this thread to Owen Shroyer. We will see if he's brave enough to bring this to peoples attention.

privatepizza ago

Honestly... when infowars are sacred..... what tf are we into. Smh

Chakana369 ago

I don't think Infowars and Alex Jones are scared so much as in they're being very careful about what they say. He's right when he's said previously that they can't immediately arrest everyone as this will create misperceptions and reinforce certain groups into thinking (believing) that a coup is being attempted. If they don't have concrete evidence they're gathering it my opinion so as none of these sick fucks escape the noose, or dragnet. We can all see how big this story is and we can all see just how many people are involved...we, and I mean YOU, all of you have only scraped the scum off the tip of the iceberg... I've never seen such a filthy octopus with so many tentacles...they literally go everywhere. I firmly believe there are 'good' guys on the job but let's give them time to do it, especially now that we have a chance with Trump and Sessions and Chatvetz? and a bunch of others...patience is a virtue and we're going to need it. You never tell the enemy what your plans are do you? Art of War remember? Keep on digging you guys you're doing great work and I'm sure there are many watching, taking YOUR notes and investigations seriously...another way to look at it is that you're doing the hard yards freeing them up to go even further down the black hole that this obviously is...I've seen Alex screaming and almost frothing at the mouth over this story he's not happy that he can't speak about everything he's been made aware of as it will possibly ruin the case they're building... When a certain level is reached (aware people), that being a critical mass, it will all go viral and they simply will not be able to stop it no matter what they do nor who they kill...patience.

sunshine702 ago

Infowars is afraid of the story. The "fake news" frame up was supposed to be for them as this story broke. Only they backed off and the dog turd stuck to CNN's backside instead.

Melitica ago

No shit. He has been ranting about this for over a decade then...silence.

GeorgeT ago

Alex Jones speciality was exposing false flags and hoaxes. Not any more. Infowars has become a Trump propaganda arm of FOX - sad! Alex won't go near Pizzagate. I listened to his recent interview witb R.D.Steele when he launched into Pizzagate and when Alex started to look some what distressed, Robert told him ....'Alex, stop being so scared.....' Alex is under gag orders. Pizzagate has thevelites teriffied.

kekistocrat ago

Lol, kek

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

Edgar Welch's acting profile on IMDB mysterious disappeared too after people found it and started drawing attention to it.

This whole thing is just surreal!! Almost every conspiracy theory is REAL, and every crackpot was telling the TRUTH!?!?

Although I'm not ready to believe in reptile people yet!

It's like you can see everything clearly for the first time, and it's really, really scary!!

mathemagician33 ago

what makes you think his IMDB page vanished? I still see it right here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901

MrrHandsome ago

What's crazy is I have been telling my friends for years that I wish something will just shake this world up a bit, like a UFO to crash down on earth just to add a bit of spice to my mundane life. Nowe suddenly my earth bubble is crumbling Infront of my eyes, I kind of want to go back to my ignorant self again.

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

I'm been telling people I wish I could go back 6 months and live in my bubble again too.

Melitica ago

I was looking forward to a stock market meltdown.... Ugh.

erzmichael ago

The scary experience of "seeing everything clearly for the first time" is what is generally called "awakening", so congrats that you also made it past this point. It gets better eventually...

There are so many resources about reptilian races. One of the first things that piqued my interested a few years ago were the "Lacerta files", I can still recommend it. It was a pretty eerie experience back then because the interview rang so true even though I was not ready at all to consider it. See for yourself:

https://www.luisprada.com/Protected/the-lacerta-files.pdf

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

I'll check it out. The way things are going, just about anything could be true.

erzmichael ago

Just to clarify, from my perspective today I would not consider to be much of what is said in this interview to be truthful. I believe that this interview took place but since reptilians are said to be dishonest and devious I think that most of the answers are probably misinformation. E.g. the statement that the reptilians have been on earth longer than humans is for sure a lie.

zzvoat ago

While reptile people may be actual reptiles, I have always believed that the term refers to a particular group of exceptionally dangerous psychopaths ..."those who can't be named."

If you can't name them, code words will be all you have. The connection is that reptiles are cold-blooded.

Those who can't be named? Voltaire said it best:

"“To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise,”

privatepizza ago

I agree that's the connection. The cold blood. The worst psychopaths, with no concept of how to FEEL anything at all. The depravity they go to, in order to FEEL something, or feel vicariously through their victims, is why we're all here.

zzvoat ago

Conspiracy theorists are intentionally and brutally vilified. Why?

They are the TruthTellers.

Commonwombat ago

Welcome to the jungle baby!

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

Thanks, but I'd really rather go back to living in my bubble!

redditsuckz ago

Its still there;

Edgar Maddison Welch

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2625901/reference

http://archive.is/CsxRX

The Bleeding (2009) (uncredited) .... Raver / Victim

Guess what "The Bleeding" is about...

An ex-Army Ranger searching for the killer of his parents discovers a family of vampires in a former chemical weapons factory-turned-nightclub.[1]

In one scene the hero discovers they are chopping up people and eating them...

UPDATE;

Edgar Welch has a tranny brother/sister that looks almost exactly like him...

#PizzaGate New Info 12/8/16: Pizzagate SHOOTER & BROTHER Exposed Via their INSTAGRAM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHTsMWUGVeE

Jonah Welch Intagram;

https://www.instagram.com/j_onahwelch/

Vic138 ago

Many people have said that Fidel Castro is CIA sponsored. One of the most believable is Servando Gonzalez (Cuban born author and historian), author of "Psychological Warfare and the New World Order: The Secret War Against the American People" and "I Dare Call It Treason: The Council on Foreign Relations and the Betrayal of America".

Fidel Castro has an IMDB page as well (he was an extra for a couple movies): http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004242/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

Glad you found it. I couldn't find it the last time I searched for it. I thought they took it down to make Edger seem more legit.

redditsuckz ago

Here is Edgars Father;

Harry L. Welch Jr.

Elected President of the North Carolina Crime Stoppers Association (two terms). Served as Executive Director for Protect-A-Child, a national, non-profit organization to prevent abuse and abduction of children. Appointed by Governor Jim Martin to the Governor's Commission on Child Victimization.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2124178/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2124178/bio

http://archive.is/NPDjP

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

Most pedophiles will work around children, so they can get access to them.

pepe16 ago

There MAY be reptile people. That's just my opinion.

jv209 ago

I think this is your guys way of coping with the fact that mankind is nothing more than evolved primates who do sick, despicable shit. their mentality is reptilian, but are they actually cold-blooded reptiles?? c'mon...

SaveTheChildren ago

Nephalim.

jv209 ago

funny joke

Melitica ago

I haven't pondered that in a long time but when I started hearing about Bohemian Grove in 2004, I told my husband to turn that shit off. He listened to Alex Jones and a couple of others on what I called "paranoia radio" and said the most outrageous stuf...only, over the next 12 years, everything came true...one unbelievable thing after another. Then FBIAnon started...and Pizzagate. Still took me seeing some of it with my own eyes to believe it and even here, there has been stuff that was simply impossible....but wasnt.

I have resolved to no longer dismiss anything completely. Lizard people, gondolas, Bigfoot...I just won't think about it.

SaveTheChildren ago

What passes for truth today is the funny joke.

There's a reason all the conspiracy theories are turning out to be true. We're the only ones using critical thinking and actual evidence to come to our conclusions.

jv209 ago

religion; truth

critical thinking; religion

pick one because these are an oxymoron to a rational person. the whole purpose of religion is faith which is to believe in something without facts or the knowledge at hand to support it. this is about catching pedos abusing their power. the angels and demons shit is unnecessary to me unless we're discussing these sick fucks occultist practices.

SaveTheChildren ago

They are allegories. There is truth to the stories weather or not you believe in the bible and god and all that. And like you said, there's good evidence there are satanists out there, so to understand the bible is helpful to understand their motives and the way they view the world.

I believe that these people think they are the bloodlines of the fallen angels. They think they are better than god, and they want to create a post-human society. That's why they are all transgender /v/Transvestigation and blasphemous child rapists etc. They live their lives to mock god.

It's irrelevant how you personally feel about god.

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

The way things are going, you might be right!

Beaucephus ago

I just said in another thread that if I find out reptillians are legit, I'm checking out! Nice peaceful overdose should do it.

GeorgeT ago

Reptilians, Jesus, Zeus..... allegories.

Beaucephus ago

Of course, but remember there was a time when Satanic Ritual Abuse of children among the Aristocrats was just as unbelievable. Everything David Icke has told us so far has been coming true. Kinda makes you wonder...

GeorgeT ago

David has been right on the money (minus the reptilian part) This fake news narrative will stop. Prime Minister of UK was a serial pedophile - means whole system is infested.

vector3rector ago

Dude I hear ya.

Im at, "Confirmed the Rothschild's rule the world because they think Judaism is the 'father of all religions'. So they are funding global wars against the two "smaller" sub-branches. Christianity vs. Islam. All while using fractional reserve banking to hold all assets and liabilities, to control the world., All held by and lending with, the reserves and fortunes they've conquered throughout history., These reserves belonging to the British Royal Monarchs, the Persian Royal Monarchs, as well as the Jewish Ashkenazi and Sephardic wealthy bloodlines."

 

Me right now

 

Committee of 300 read. It's a similar synopsis.

Remember the hierarchy, at all times.

The 7th Floor Show Government, Is a group of former intelligence agents, directors, Potus', and other Soro's constituents. Soro's, who is nothing more than a Rothschild lackey.

The secret war being fought that has caused, and is causing, real wars to be fought by us., is against the old money (The English Royalty (w/ the Catholic Church) vs. their former Ottoman/persian enemies (United Arab Emirates, Saudi Royals, etc)., Vs New money (Intelligence Community, New World Order, 7th Floor, Private Commercial Leaders)., Which is fueled, funded, and continued, by The Rothschilds & Fractional Reserve Banking (Along with other powerful Jewish Families).

On one side of the war, is the Church vs. Islam (Just like they have been fighting for the last 2000 year). Then there is the Rothschilds (representing Judaism - independently)., Who's family thinks they where here first., Because the basis of both religions came from a Jewish man. Christianity (Which came from Jesus, decedent of Abraham, father of Issac And Ishmael = All Jewish) and Islam (Which came from Mohamed, descendant of Issac and Ishmael, son of Abraham = All originally Jewish)., Are all deviated branches of the same story., The main issue being, each claim their own interpretations, to be the sole "Holy" doctrine.

The Rothschild's and their supporting members, believe this because the decedents of both religions, descended from Judaism. The Rothschild's believe, The Kings of of the house of David (Judaism) are the true owners of the world.

Edmond James De Rothschild, started the concept of a Zion for Judaism and creating Israel. The Rothschild, having been funding everything pro zion ever since, through George Soro's and the Quantum Fund, to avoid criticism, like in the early 1900's and then WWII.

Think, why else Hitler was willing to go to war with the world to end their banking monopoly (Please do not take this like im advocating his horrendous acts). He was well aware of what they had created and the political influence they had (The Rothschilds that is)., Because of their lending and money power, anyone was willing to go to war for them. If they didn't help, they could recall loans, or they could collapse an economy. Which they have done. Many times. ie. US stock market crash of '29, '08, many small in between., The European LB devaluation, Italian Market Crash, Greece. Etc.

Poland recently banned all their banks, 2016.

The Panama Paper Leaks from Massack Fonseca, blew the bomb on the scale of it. It truly calls for world wide arrest. Many nations are very prepared to go to war., To avoid prosecution and revolt of course. The fear of global rioting and looting is astronomical. But the scale of corruption and global conspiring that the Panama Papers showed, MORE THAN WARRANTS GLOBAL ARRESTS.

No major news outlet should be trusted. They all have a dog in the fight. Especially after the Panama Papers leaked the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ):

is closely connected to the US government and the Soros Foundation, which funded the ICIJ. Moreover, earlier this organization was used by Soros to settle scores with his economic and political rivals.

 

Most Importantly

Clans of Rothschild, Sachs, Thyssens and Safra, closely associated with the Rothschild family, were the focus of ICIJ Swiss Leaks in 2013. Then the data of a number of Swiss lawyers and trusts was declassified. "They helped clients all over the world establish offshore firms and trusts to protect their assets from tax collectors or over-zealous heirs".

 

 

 

To not gobble up too much space., Here is the faction of Rothschilds Banks that "wash" each others money, and control the financial institutions of the world.

ten banks, which according to disclosed information, use offshore companies to hide money. Besides the already mentioned Rothschild Trust Guernsey, it includes Experta Corporate & Trust Services, Banque J. Safra Sarasin Luxembourg SA, Credit Suisse Channel Islands Ltd, HSBC Private Bank (Monaco) SA, HSBC Private Bank (Swiss) SA, UBS AG, (Union Bank of Switzerland), Coutts & Co. Trustees (Jersey) Ltd, Societe Generale Bank & Trust Luxembourg, Landsbanki Luxembourg S.A., liquidated in 1993.

Follow the money.

If assets and debt (liabilities) are the two primary things that control the world. Than they own both.

But Who Run's this "Mafia"/Illuminati/The Committee of 300?

 

Follow the money as they say.

Remember, that 2004, World Check.pdf I linked earlier? You know-- the one that had the article, regarding Saddam's $35 Billion, stashed with the Queen of England's personal bankers, Coutts. Well, that led me down a "grand" trail of information that clarified " The Boss(es)' " for this whole shindig., and yet again, we have another affirmation, for the Rothschild conspiracy Mafia.

For starters: If you would like to familiarize yourself with Coutts., They are private bank and wealth managers, the 7th oldest bank in the world. This is owned by the Royal Bank Of Scotland Group. RBS. Who up to 2009, was the world's largest company by both assets (£1.9 trillion) and liabilities (£1.8 trillion). In 2015, RBS group, sold "The International Private Banking Activity Assets, of Coutts" to Union Bancaire Privée. UBP, is a Private bank, within Geneva, ran by the De Picciotto Family. Edgar De Picciotto, a major player in the worlds gold market, is known to be willing to do as Edmond De Rothchild's asks of him. Also, UBP offices are located 9 minutes away, walking, from Edmond De Rothschild's office.

  • Private Wealth Management, usually meaning you hold a lot of assets or psychical/liquid wealth, or commodities. Meaning Rothschild Private Bankers only do work with people that have lots of assets.
  • Coutts was willing to business with someone as "noble" as the Queen of England, at the same time, while working with someone as evil, as Saddam Hussein. Meaning Rothschild Private Bankers only do work with people that have lots of assets.
  • The Rothschild Estate and wealth, spans multiple families., So tracing coercion, collusion, and treason., Becomes more difficult to trace by the public. Luckily for us, we have the Quantum Fund, for them to lead us to. Among the members of the board, their relatives, and their friends., they help "mix" the money and assist, in manipulating the market when they need to. Other members, including Mr. Soros, are listed here. Showing us, even putting nations aside, *Rothschild Private Bankers *only do work with people that have lots of assets. No morals or ethics required.

All the "family" connections aside, up until 2009, RBS group, was the second largest shareholders in The Bank Of China. China, who owns the majority of US Debt., who is in debt to RBS.,

Continued in next comment

PART 3

 

[Continued]... This is backed by assets and liquid equity, owned by the former and current, royalty-elites of society., To function with today's monetary system, Fractional Reserve Banking, the debt loaned out, is held against different physical resources, royal "treasures"/assets, and essential global real estate.

CONTINUED

Beaucephus ago

While I'm looking over that, check this out. www.peerage.com

The entire bloodline. If you aren't on there, kiss your chances of being wealthy goodbye.

Freemasonsrus ago

Hahaha! Nah, I've always enjoyed eating gator so I'll just start hunting. ;)

JamesGhost ago

Sorry to break it to you but them actually being literally reptilian is a pretty mood point. I don't believe in literal reptile people but they are just as bad. The pedo elite in this world literally believe themselves to be of a higher order. They don't respect the same laws and they see us as worker bees at best and nothing but food at the worst. Seeing them peeling off thier skin and having scales underneath would actually calm me down. I'd rather live in a world where humans are decent and reptiles are the enemy as apposed to the one I'm in now where some humans are ok and others just act like it so they can rise to power and eat my children. It's fucked up anyway you slice it.

thisHoCwilltumble ago

i see what you did there.

privatepizza ago

So true.

grlldcheese ago

Can i have your collection of pepes?

grlldcheese ago

Oh shit, that's a rare one.

Beaucephus ago

That's my Pencasso

I_have_my_gun_ready ago

Lol! Save some meds for me. I'll be right behind you!

e-traiu ago

why the swift exit? Not judging. just curious :)

Beaucephus ago

I think it would be sensory overload. Lizard-men are where I draw the line.

TabiCatTwo ago

That's my line too. Nope, not going there.

e-traiu ago

i agree. but after pg, and the mother of all rabbitholes it lead too, we will end up with some sweet knowledge as bonus ;)

pepe16 ago

That would be an overreaction friend. The presence of reptile people is considered straightforward in Hindu epics and they're referred to as the race of Nagas.

mathemagician33 ago

Yeah, there is even a large faction of south asians (mainly in Indonesia) who actually still worship Ravana, the serpent/reptile king who is the main antagonist in the Ramayana. He is quite literally worshipped as still living, and it's actually not that far out of the question when you consider all the hollow/honeycomb earth evidence and how it coincides with ALL the knowledge of the nagas in the Hindu texts (I learned about all of this as a kid because my family is hindu, it just about blew my mind when I realized those "myths" that I would read/hear as a child were not that far-fetched). Quite fascinating really.

IDeliverPizza ago

Don't mind me. Just your daily torypill https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBgrEn_su1k

Azagthoth ago

Just a matter of time before one of those Nagas steal my bike.

IlluminatiKing ago

Naga pleez!

EllaMinnow ago

That's funny man!

Drnoway ago

This was the funniest thing i have red here!

Beaucephus ago

I don't remember Gilgamesh rasslin any lizard-monsters, or was that the thing on the edge of the lake?

Singleservename ago

That's strange. I thought he pleaded not guilty last week?

Beaucephus ago

Hmmmm, where did you hear that? Might I guess... The Media???

LincolnsMullet ago

Do a search. There's obviously something still charged against him, as he was apparently in court recently. Maybe its local charges I can't tell. The next court date is March 6th

Beaucephus ago

They are running those news pieces per the narrative, but the narrative got blown up because it was rushed and not coordinated aptly.

Beaucephus ago

I gave you a link to search yourself. There are NO PENDING CASES and all the cases related to Comet Ding Dong have been dismissed.

LincolnsMullet ago

Haha comet ding dong. So heres a link to the "plea deal": http://wtop.com/dc/2017/01/plea-deal-on-table-in-pizzagate-case/

Which if what you are saying is true, and since the charges are technically dropped, this "plea deal" will end up with him walking away? Or community service to appear like there has to be some consequences to walking into a pizza shop over "fake news" and firing a weapon?

Beaucephus ago

The only thing I can find about him being in custody after 12/13/16 is media articles. There are no court records of him being in custody.

abortionburger ago

If you look on the DC clerk of courts for his case, the charges were dropped and he was immediately arrested on federal ones, they're just handing this over to the FBI.

Beaucephus ago

I added an Update 2x's on the OP but nobody seems to be seeing it.

abortionburger ago

Yeah you'll have to resubmit, the original one isn't going to be seen.

Singleservename ago

On here actually. Probably linked MSM though.

Still strange that they reported Welch pleading not guilty on no charges. That's too easily falsified even for the Establishment Beobachters aka MSM

Beaucephus ago

They were relying on the dockets being sealed, per their request. But if you follow the chain of resolutions, the judge was switched and the new judge denied their motion. This one took a big shit on them because they were rushed and had to pull off the hoax shooting immediately to get rid of the hard drive under veil.

2impendingdoom ago

But there was no investigation, no one was looking for the hard drive, so why stage all this just to get rid of a hard drive that no one was looking for, unless there was some fear that it might come up in the future, and incriminating evidence was on it. Throwing out or upgrading your hard drive is not illegal, happens all the time, and the bullet damage must have been a smokescreen for any future investigation, which only suggests that there WAS incriminating material on it and only re-enforces our suspicions. Why do they think we are stupid?

Aside from the hard drive, this whole incident was to frame pizzagaters as violent instigators.

Beaucephus ago

Or to get whatever was in that place out safely without having to worry about being seen.

It was too rushed and too sloppy to just be a propaganda piece. Those are planned out carefully. They don't get assigned to the wrong judge, the documents aren't made public.

joey4track ago

You can't make this stuff up folks

GeorgeT ago

Edgar's daddy is tied to haitian children, Beyond Borders - right across Comet Ping Pong.

pnwpatriot97 ago

Shit, even skyrim touches base in vampires and cannibalism.

phlux ago

you should watch "santa clarita diet" from the perspective of #PG:

Cannibalism, satanism, pedophilia, blood drinking, elites, making it "funny normal" etc etc... Serbian connections (to the source of all this trafficking) so fucking much hidden info in that series. many many references that you would get if woke. Too many to list.

emeraldeye ago

absolutely incredible. All the world’s a stage, and all the men and women merely players.

LurkingNoMore ago

Time to start slinging tomatoes?

Freemasonsrus ago

...laced w arsenic

emeraldeye ago

ha, well if you were wanting to sling it at the pedos, maybe best not to, they'd probably get a fucking kick out of that too and start rubbing it all over themselves or some sick shit like that, and then call it the best art ever! :)

bibleproofs ago

YOU THINK YOU'RE HOT SHIT DON'T YOU!

Beaucephus ago

Hahaha! Look at the date on THIS ARTICLE from the Washington ComPost. December 15, 2016 - 2 days after charges were dropped!

tinytank ago

Well after all, he does have a daddy that owns a film production company called "Forever Young", works in law enforcement and helps orphans in Haiti.