Sorry to be back with more but I've noticed lots of comments that still don't believe that Pegasus is the site of construction so here's more stuff for the doubters.
Earlier today this thread was posted https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1542160 from @starseedlover. Within the photos were a few irrefutable occurrences that prove that the former Paper Sun building, now believed to be called Pegasus is the site of the construction pictures.
Here is the original construction picture, I have circled the evidence in Yellow http://imgur.com/a/pAmTL
Here is a pic from the Paper Sun photos to compare http://imgur.com/a/vJKw6
Now, here is the wider construction pic with evidence ringed in yellow and red http://imgur.com/a/qIfkG
And a pic from Paper Sun showing the same graffiti https://snag.gy/wEkxny.jpg
And a pic showing the triangular staircase that would just about be visible from in the other room http://imgur.com/a/5Qd0P
Further, a post from the instagram of Little Red Fox of a music performance inside Paper Sun/Pegasus where they call it "Square Forms new gallery" (Obviously Alefantis owns the building, I guess Square form rent it from him, or did at least) http://archive.is/sboBT
Why is this important? It was a building that was kind of kept quiet. It's a large space, and it also has a confirmed basement https://i.sli.mg/3cl2Sy.jpg (thanks to @redditsuckz for that one). Those things don't necessarily mean anything is happening there but at least we have some loose ends tied up.
IshmaelQuinn ago
Got it. Right. Good thinking.
quantokitty ago
I had a change of heart about Mr. O'Neal. I do believe he was threatened and is not lying. I'm basing this on re-watching the video where he shows the exact conversation, but more importantly, on the fact that I was able to find the police report he filed in the Galveston police database. That last part is crucial. The other push? I did a Google map of the address given in the police incident report and it's a modest neighborhood. No Alefantis/Podesta types live there. I put all of that together and switched over to wholeheartedly believing this. I do believe the real JA emerged. He's been pushed, saw what he perceived to be a patsy and took aim. The auto correct was telling. JA doesn't like making mistakes. And the remark about not liking children? Probably the truest statement JA has made in a long time, but not the whole truth. If he's guilty of the things he's accused of, and there's no hard evidence that he is, he would hate children. The word "pedophile" is a misnomer Should be "pedohater" because these people hate children. They're an outlet for their sick desires and no more. It's the same with people addicted to porn. Women/men become objects. There's no love cast between predator and prey.
Think O'Neal is a humble man who was just trying to make a few bucks to feed his family when this happened. He's probably the very likable guy he presents hm to be and isn't used to people like JA. Sorry it happened to him and do think he was right in putting it out there. Remaining silent would be the worst mistake. I suppose my anger at O'Neal missing a huge opportunity also played into my dismissal of this, but he had no idea what was going on.
SChalice ago
The term is pedophobe.
quantokitty ago
Thanks.
foxxywoxxy ago
Alefantis remark about not liking children is the same as Jimmy Savile (notorious paedophile in England with hundreds of victims, which came out after he had died )
Savile "Its easy for me as a single man to say "I don't like children" because that puts a lot of salacious tabloid people off the hunt "
Interviewer Are you basically saying that so tabloids don't you know pursue this "is he, isn't he a paedophile line basically"
Savile "Yes, yes yes,oh aye. How do they know whether I am or not, how does anyone know whether I am or not. Nobody knows whether I am or not. I know I am not. Its an easy way of doing it , All those children on Jim''l fix it, Yes I hate them."
https://youtu.be/R2nBFCm2xY4?t=9m12s
quantokitty ago
Thanks for that. It sounds about right. No, people that rape children don't love them.
bopper ago
He's in Galveston?
quantokitty ago
That's what it said on the report. He posted the report so I'm assuming he doesn't mind the information being out there.
bopper ago
Wow, ok thanks. Their police dept. has seen a lot I can tell you that. Do you have a link, I know several people there at the dept. and courthouse, I really don't like saying this though. Some detectives, a judge.
quantokitty ago
The link has been on Voat. I don't give links. Every time I do it turns out to be the wrong thing to do, but like I said, the info is posted on Voat.
bopper ago
Thanks much for your response.
bolus ago
an album of screen shots showing the summary trust/deeds for three properties, square 2833 lots 26, 27, and 817, and the parties involved in the transaction:
https://sli.mg/a/oIKbmO
note the third image, exhibit 'a'. this demonstrates that the 'pegasus' lot is made up of slices from the lots 97-100, and is 50 ft by 66.67 ft, or 3334 sq feet. the gis map confirms this to be the case.
exhibit 'a' notes that the two lots are taxed as one, lot 817.
i put this together to clarify why there were three deeds - we aren't looking for three properties, it's all in this one. at some point, 26 and 27 were standalone properties.
Yuke ago
Good stuff thanks. Are you going to keep digging on this one?
redditsuckz ago
Here Alefantis bought the BACK HOUSE 3518 11th St REAR NW for $200,000
July 7, 2014
https://i.sli.mg/ss8VhK.jpg
The FRONT HOUSE 3518 11th St NW sold 2 WEEKS LATER for $263,636?
July 25, 2014
The house should have gone for $700,000...
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3518-11th-St-NW-Washington-DC-20010/472684_zpid/
http://archive.is/jVw3r
The Building permits are not clear on mentioning on if its the REAR or not;
Some PEGASUS Construction Photos from JA's Instagram;
http://sli.mg/a/kork4x
Images of PEGASUS Thanks to Spoor;
Under Construction with a Tarp Covering;
https://i.sli.mg/b7nMHe.png
Top
https://i.sli.mg/pGqfQR.png
Front
https://i.sli.mg/ShEt0a.png
Right
https://i.sli.mg/fF4Iva.png
Back
https://i.sli.mg/fIJhyX.png
Left
https://i.sli.mg/VDIJ2o.png
Timeline of building permits;
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1499872
Rear House in 2009;
https://i.sli.mg/cXQ1Fy.jpg
Rear House in 2017;
https://i.sli.mg/tjDX7r.jpg
Google felt the need to brush out the "lookout area"...but it looks like a whole new room/section was added to the house in that time frame and that looks like the "square form" rectangle area space;
https://sli.mg/a/s9hoRx
YingYangMom ago
Yes it does look like the squareform office is the add-on to the right of the house. The windows on both floors match, so does the front door & windows. Great work, thanks.
IshmaelQuinn ago
I live in DC. You guys are way off about this building. Very confused. Its not a museum at all.
Yuke ago
We only refer to it as a museum because that's what Alefantis reviewed it as on google, Pegasus museum. We also have it referred to as a gallery.
APC_Frankfurt ago
The celing of the room with the works trenches is inclined, even if there is a trick of the perspective check the door at the back the open is almost perfectly rectangular, whilst just above it the ceilng gets much more oblique.
Yuke ago
Sorry, I'm not following which parts in particular you are referring to. If you have time, knock up a version of the image with the area circled or something.
APC_Frankfurt ago
Soundproofing. The photo of the killroom might be a soundproof room, covered with the grey panesl, with the addition of the noise from the many fans installed on the wall. Altought that ambient does looks dirty and a bit old. It that room is real than it means that underground there are at least 2 ambients, then is necessaty a ladder staris and a landing space.
I misplaced my previous comment. I said why JA spent money on a project such a museum, why he become secretive and deletes from the google map. I also asked if the pedophilia rings can be comapared to pyramid schemes, those who entered first profited the most? Also please top swearing and fighting each other.
ALDO_NOVA ago
good eye on the staircase - thank you for confirming
Yuke ago
Sorry about that guys. I have updated the thread with sli.mg instead of imgur. I have also reconsidered the basement idea. Thanks.
YingYangMom ago
Thank you OP! This just about proves that the digging site is inside Pegasus. The missing piece has finally been found. Great job!
So this must be on the first floor because of the door in this picture here: https://sli.mg/8m3Qo4
Would make sense, since the digging that took place here : https://i.sli.mg/btmpsd and here: https://sli.mg/WXNVRe proves that Pegasus basement is somewhere other than under these floors. Have they widened the Pegasus basement with their digging? Because according to this document https://i.sli.mg/3cl2Sy.jpg the basement is only 608 sq ft and the building size is 1248 sq ft. So, this would mean that they have widened the Pegasus basement. Perfect for a secret underground room, no? Especially one that's not registered...
Yuke ago
See my update, I don't think this is the same place any longer.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
Anybody notice all the gay abduction gang rapes in the area involving vans full of armed men?
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1544662#submissionTop
zoltan907 ago
What is Alefantis's relationship with Nellie Hubbard? In a post that was recently deleted, in a thread that also appears to have been deleted (it was the thread about archive.is being out of commission), SavingGrace2 said that archive.is was deleting information about New Hope Academy. He/she also mentioned the names Nellie Hubbard and Joseph Scheve in connection with Alefantis. I did a search, and there were no results for those names. So I Googled them and found this:
http://www.bdlaw.com/assets/htmldocuments/DWLR%20Oct%2013%202011.pdf
Superior Court of the District of Columbia PROBATE DIVISION Foreign No. 2011-0104 JOSEPH THEODORE SCHEVE, Deceased NOV 5, 2008, Date of Death Notice of Appointment of Foreign Personal Representatives And Notice to Creditors NELLIE T. HUBBARD, whose address is 1801 HARBINGER TRAIL, EDGEWOOD, MD 21040, was appointed Personal Representative of the estate of JOSEPH T. SCHEVE, deceased, by the DISTRICT Court for PRINCE GEORGES County, State of MARYLAND, on NOV 26, 2008. Service of process may be made upon JAMES AKFANTIS, 5031 CONN. AVE., NW, WASHINGTON, DC 20008, whose designation as District of Columbia agent has been filed with the Register of Wills, D.C. The decedent owned the following District of Columbia real property: 1644 NORTH CAPITAL ST., NW, 3518 REAR 11TH ST. The decedent owned District of Columbia personal property. Claims against the decedent may be presented to the undersigned and filed with the Register of Wills for the District of Columbia, 515 5th Street, N.W., 3rd Floor, Washington, D.C. 20001 within six months from the date of first publication of this notice. Date of First Publication: SEP 29, 2011. /s/ NELLIE T. HUBBARD. TRUE TEST COPY /s/ ANNE MEISTER Register of Wills. Name of Newspapers: DWLR, WASHINGTON INFORMER. Pub Dates: SEP 29, OCT 6, 13, 2011.
zoltan907 ago
Deleted thread asking the same question: https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1542733.
yabbadoody ago
if all this is true, then "Kill Room" is most likely in the basement.
That's about the ONLY reason he would be dropping a huge vertical hole into the earth like that in an existing building (where drain lines are LONG ESTABLISHED already). Excluding Satanic sacrifices, he would need the new hole for all the send and return lines for all those refrig units (count them)... my guess. And no, having a fridge unit in the basement is NOT unheard of.. except there will be an EQUAL NUMBER of compressors, which probably live above ground somewhere... like ON A ROOF, or under new roof construction... so let's check there next.
Fatsack ago
Why doesnt the imgur display boxes work for me
investigate123 ago
Pegasus is shady as fuck. Why would Alefantis own a museum that doesnt advertise to the public in any way shape or form? It has no sign. No ads. No public phone number. No billboard or sign post. Nothing identifying it at all
RecycledUser ago
Museum = nonprofit or tax benefits, and just a cover name for LE, and for referencing to friends/clients.
WeWillWin ago
What does this museum even exhibit? Doesn't look like a museum to me.
Gorillion ago
What's snag.gy? It wouldn't work without changing noscript permissions. Fuck that.
Can you throw the relevant pic up on sli.mg?
BarryOSeven ago
What the fuck is this guy eating?
https://i.sli.mg/5oTRda.jpg
mysecretidentity ago
Maybe pizza pockets idk bout the rest
quantokitty ago
You just proved this couldn't be the space. There in black and white is the fact the space JA bought has a basement. Yet if you open the album, the first picture shows there's no basement in the room they're digging. There's a cement floor and underneath dirt, not an excavated basement. Case closed.
norobotono ago
The photos were only taken from one side of the room so you have no idea what is on the other. Also, my house only has a cellar that fits under one room, not the whole house size, so that could also be the case there.
HomeboyChrisBanned ago
@quantokitty - no because 3518 is the house, not the warehouse behind it. The house must be the one with the basement. Unless the warehouse has another chamber down under it or something. There could still be a chamber under that level those guys were digging up. Or a side chamber off at a part of the building you cant see. My guess would be a tunnel from the house to the warehouse, and a cell area in the basement of the house.
militant ago
But where are the original links?
OliversWilde ago
Not a single one of the imgur pics is visible!
Yuke ago
Fixed.
whirledpeas ago
Thanks for adding clarification, @RomarinBouteille -- I never would have been able to describe it so succinctly!
DarkMath ago
What about the Ping Pong Table in the original picture. That points to Comet Ping Pong not Pegasus.
Yuke ago
My guess is that it was there for entertainment for the guys based there, or as storage. It's not far from Comet.
DarkMath ago
What about the gap between the buildings? There's no gap at Pegasus, there is between CPP and McCullough.
http://sli.mg/hNzVXe
Yuke ago
If by gap you are referring to the construction picture then the space that you see is viewable from the picture with the triangular staircase visible. The wall just to the right is the second wall that you see from the other (construction) room.
DarkMath ago
Can you provide a link to that pic? Thanks.
Yuke ago
https://sli.mg/8m3Qo4 The wall to the right that connects to the beam in the roof. If you follow that wall down you can see that it is the second wall that you see in this pic ringed in yellow https://sli.mg/WXNVRe
DarkMath ago
Another question. So those construction photos are from Pegasus. I'm totally convinced finally. What about the refrigeration equipment from the IG pic: https://i.sli.mg/86mWlT.png
A kill room needs a reason to be there other than a kill room When the kill room was at CPP or Bucks the refrigeration equipment made sense. They were storing the 10 tons of tomatoes they used to make the pizza sauce.
But why is there refrigeration equipment at Pegasus?
Yuke ago
The refrigerator/walk-in cooler in the pic has not been 100% identified as of yet. I don't believe that to be at the Pegasus location. There is a possibility that it is the cooler that is located on the outside of little red fox and that Comet shares it https://i.sli.mg/CL3AfH
DarkMath ago
The problem is that walk-in refrigerator is supposedly the "kill room" from the IG comments. But clearly it's not at Pegasus. So doesn't the sort of clear Pegasus as the location of the kill room? I mean what dirt is there on Pegasus now?
Yuke ago
I don't think we should really be taking those comments literally. I see them more as comments made on its appearance, it does look quite unwelcoming. I've also said before that I don't believe that Alefantis and his immediate circle would be involved in any killings if there were any, I see them more as fixers if anything. Saying that, anything could go on at a location like Pegasus and few would ever know.
DarkMath ago
I agree about not taking them literally. But joking about euthanizing infants and using words like "kill room", "tomales" and "we all have our preferences" etc mean these people are twisted.
That walk in fridge is too rectangular to match the square walk in fridge behind CPP. I'm still wondering where that walk-in fridge is? Maybe at Bucks?
YingYangMom ago
I thought that the white add on between Little Red Fox and CPP was the walk-in freezer too at first, but if you count the wall panels, the killroom is not square at all. It's a rectangle (3x6 or possibly 3x7 or 8). Now Buck's has a basement AND a walk-in freezer. I'd be looking there or somewhere in the Pegasus buidling because it's pretty large and it also has a basement.
Yuke ago
Oh don't get me wrong, there is a big difference between something like #killroom and other things they have written or said. I've considered the shape of the little red fox walk-in, it could possibly be more elongated in appearance due to the lens used to photograph it. There are only about 5 or 6 panels on each side so it's not particularly big. I would also be looking for something coming out of the right hand side where the fans are, which there doesn't appear to be on Little red fox' one. It might not be the same one, I admit that.
DarkMath ago
Holy shit you're right. Wow. That's pretty f'ed up.
norobotono ago
Large tables can be useful for things other than playing ping pong on.
crystalclearme ago
or just having ping pong for "entertainment" and "play" - I believe it is significant too
bolus ago
There was a past earlier today about how the property had changed hands when alefantis acquired pegasus, but it was deleted.
The papers indicated that there wee three distinct lots in the transaction: 2833 0026, 2833 0027, and 2833 0817...which should all be on the same block between 13th and 11th, otis and monroe. the smallest-numbered parcel currently listed in the gis for that block is 0071...0026 and 0027 do not appear to exist at this time. Perhaps the 'wings' were 26 and 27, combined to 817, but might be worth remembering.
Yuke ago
Is it possible you could look into this further?
bolus ago
Yes. I can still show sources for the the lots, too. Will update later today.
GenghisSean ago
Please use slimgur. Imgur is good friends with reddit and censors posts.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
WTH is slimgur?
GenghisSean ago
Back in the days of the first reddit migration when they banned /r/fatpeoplehate imgur kept censoring pictures of the mod logs. A few new image hosting sites popped up, but slimgur won out in the end. https://i.sli.mg/
ZalesMcMuffin ago
So sli.mg is "slimgur"? I knew about all you mentioned, but hadn't heard "slimgur" before.
GenghisSean ago
My bad. I guess it's pronounced "slimage" but I think either it used to be called "slimgur" or my brain has malfunctioned since that time.
HortonHiresAHo ago
You are correct. It was originally slimgur but they had to change it for copyright reasons.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Ah. Thanks for the backstory.
cosmicmind ago
IN the earlier post I'm seeing one coat hanger image on the office floor, but not on both pics. Could these be circled for easier i.d.? thanks.
crazimal ago
I must say, trenches in floor argue strongly against basement, and the building I think is designated as 3518 Rear, separate property from the house in front, so it's been said. Also I can't see the MySpace picture as being in same place.
rockcreek ago
Good job! That may explain the weird "rolling mezzanine" platform. If the building was built in 1908 it was probably too weak to put in a second floor in that one particular space, or too expensive to pass building codes, so they did the track with platform to make use of the vertical space. That building sure seems biger than 1300 sq ft though. Maybe it's two buildings put together. The roofline suggests two separate buildings that then had a building built in between them to connect them.
norobotono ago
The building construction photos show a much larger area so they have obviously put a dividing wall in during that construction. In the photo of the lower floor you can see an open door with a sink inside. It probably leads off to the other rooms or they have separated the building into two entrances. Plus the door on the upper floor leads somewhere...
rockcreek ago
I wonder why the paper sun (Pegasus) building has that big steel beam going through the middle? It looks like an old building from the brickwork. Why would it need that steel beam support?
0xFFF ago
likely because they removed supporting walls.
Investigate1999 ago
Why is that thing circled in yellow?
This is still a bit much for me to take in. Is this construction room connected to the same space where the platform office is?
Yuke ago
The thing circled in yellow is the underside of the staircase heading upstairs. You can see the triangular shape of this in one of the other pics taken from in the room opposite that you can just see through that doorway. This is important as some people thought this was a raised door and thus, evidence of a secret doorway into the building next door to Comet (the former McCullough construction building). I argued against that idea strongly and these pictures prove the location is Pegasus and not next door to Comet.
Investigate1999 ago
You're talking about the room with the coat hanger stain, and on the right bottom of the picture is a sliding door? If I understand correctly, 2 photos show the coat hanger stain from a different angle.
YingYangMom ago
100% right. This is Pegasus. Let's concentrate on placing the rooms, doors and windows in place. The metal stairs picture could have been taken at a complete opposite angle. This is all making more sense to me now. Concentrate. I'm going to be looking at other picture to try to put everything into place, or perspective.
Investigate1999 ago
Yuke, good job! Thank you.
redditsuckz, thanks for your contribution. You've earned your way off of my suspicious people list. If I find out that you're just leading us away from the evidence, then...well...that's different. Good job!
srayzie ago
Do they own only that back Pegasus building? Or the house in front too?
Yuke ago
Only the back building 3518 Rear 11th street. The row-house, 3518 11th street is owned by Boris Tochlin. It further adds to the surreptitious nature of the place knowing how ambiguous it is to locate/identify.
srayzie ago
Yeah it's creepy how it's hidden except thru an alley. The place looks creepy
AugustaJulia ago
Is it Boris Tochlin or Boris Tochilin? There is someone called Boris Tochilin who is 87 years old and lives in "Washington." Don't know whether it means Washington DC or the state of Washington.
Yuke ago
It seems variable. Julia Tochilin is also linked to that address. I don't suspect these people are involved though.
AugustaJulia ago
Why can't I post Boris Tochilin's web page address? It would not allow me. I know it's probably irrelevant, just thought it would be good if someone would archive it. I am computer illiterate.
AugustaJulia ago
Does the white building that has bars in one of the windows on the second floor belong to Boris Tochilin?
Yuke ago
I think the building in question is the Blue one.
DontTreadOnMemes ago
I believe Justin Barrows aka Jabbarroos may have been a part of the construction team on this project.
cosmicmind ago
I don't remember who owned the construction next to CPP/Buck's, but wonder if they're linked?
YingYangMom ago
Little Red Fox. They're friends. So is Politics and Prose. The whole darn block is tight as can be. All the way to Besta Pizza. So the street goes like this: CPP, Little Red Fox, Buck's, Politics and Prose, Besta Pizza.
cosmicmind ago
Yeah, but there was a huge sign on the building next door saying Construction. Somebody linked the website but said they'd moved now. I know as per the rules I'm supposed to link to this, but I don't know where to find the page and the search on voat sucks for me. It would take me hours to find the pic of that building next door with the big construction sign. It was an actual construction company that specialized in deep underground buildings.
hanknut42 ago
http://archive.is/zeXL7 this guy John Kreher is the guy who is in those pics too
srayzie ago
No doubt! Great work! What stairs are those tho? I don't recall stairs other than those weird black ones going up to the loft
YingYangMom ago
This is in another area of the building perhaps. Check the door, could be the door to the back of the people in this picture here: https://sli.mg/8m3Qo4, meaning the pictures are taken at complet opposite angles. Still need to check other pictures to find out if possible.
srayzie ago
Yeah. Thank you
ArthurEdens ago
Yuke! You were right! I'm sorry I doubted you. I just need a bigger picture to see it. Great work!
Fateswebb ago
I think the basement is probably at the main house, this is basically a garage/storage building in the back that has been converted into more than just a garage.
Dressage2 ago
Great work! I guess another place to store the tomatoes!
Fateswebb ago
Imgur doesn't work for me idk.
Odaat ago
Have you tried clicking on 'Open' that appears under the black box? That's the only way I can see imgur pics.
ZalesMcMuffin ago
Only one of these images will display for me -- the one that isn't on imgur.
pray_the_gay_away ago
Reddit refugees, we're glad you're here, but you gotta use sli.mg.
GenghisSean ago
I wish I could upvoat this harder. I feel like I'm nagging because I keep posting this, but imgur is just as bad as reddit.
Vindicator ago
Nicely cited post, Yuke. Thanks for making a quality submission mods don't have to remove.
whirledpeas ago
Agree! Excellent research & posts, @Yuke.
@Vindicator, quick question; Is the 'Follow' (user) feature disabled site-wide? Or is there some participation threshold required in order for it to become enabled? (Sorry if this is explained somewhere; couldn't find it.)
crystalclearme ago
thanks for asking I've been here a month and never did ask but did wonder
Vindicator ago
I am not sure, I will look into it. Sure would be handy!
whirledpeas ago
Awesome, thanks! :-)
Womb_Raider ago
Is this really a feature?
hanknut42 ago
i posted this in a topic last night but https://myspace.com/apes/mixes/classic-my-photos-358362/photo/87829196 looks alot like the upstairs area . Also AK is from a town in PA named Fox Chapel o,O
srayzie ago
Huh? Upstairs of Pegasus?
hanknut42 ago
ya theres an upstairs area where they preform
YingYangMom ago
It can't be an upstairs room. It has to be ground level because of the digging site and the exit door.
srayzie ago
I see stairs now from that other guys links. I didn't know there was more than the loft. This is a long staircase. The long staircase leads outside? I thought it was just a few steps