In case u missed it, Alefantis emphatically stated for the record yesterday on the Kojo Mnambi radio show that Comet Ping Pong DOES NOT HAVE A BASEMENT.
https://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2016-11-30/pizza-propaganda-the-local-fallout-from-fake-news
Now, this is problematic because it contradicts all the available evidence we currently have. Including James Alefantis hinself talking about canning 10 tons of tomatoes at Comet and storing them in said basement. Which can be found here in this Metro Weekly article.
http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
In addition to his own words previously confirming the existence of a basement, we also have this book, Boutique Restaurants, which documents the interior of Comet Ping Pong. The only available images are too low of a resolution to make out the description. However, the space depicted is able to be assumed to be a basement area of the building. (Cant find the link to the book right now, i have screenshots on my twitter tho)
Another puzzling piece of information is the listing of Comet, 5037 Connecticut Ave. on propertyshark has the stories of the building listed as '2'.
http://www.propertyshark.com/mason/Property/11881126/5037-Connecticut-Ave-NW-Washington-DC-20008/
Other supporting evidence is a confirmed basement level in a neighboring business, Politics and Prose. Across the street there is Joe's Basement Bar, so we know buildings in the immediate vicinity have basements.
Fox News biggest argument in favor of "debunking Pizzagate" was the statement of fact that "Comet Ping Pong does not have a basement"
I'll leave it to the greater community to interpret the implications of these findings published above.
adam_danischewski ago
There probably is a underground space or tunnel connection yet it is not considered a "basement" on the official tax dossier of the property.
His statement regarding the presence of a basement really is the most damning of his recent deflection that Comet has "no basement", there is nothing cute about trying to play word games with these types of crimes and inquiries - it goes to show how well-insulated this motherf#$r seems to believe that he is:
Here is the source of that quote to the best of my ability to discern: http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
"ALEFANTIS: Well, we make everything from scratch. Other restaurants, even good restaurants, will, like, not roast their own peppers. You can just buy the roasted peppers in a can. Or you can buy garlic oil. Some products you can get, and they’re consistent and they’re easy. But I didn’t even know that existed actually until they said that. I was like, “What do you mean? There’s another way? You can just buy these things?” Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in.
Guy was very enthusiastic. We had a really great long segment, and it aired, and we had a viewing party. The next day I’m exhausted, I come late, and there’s literally a line from the front of the restaurant, down and around the corner."
Let me explain something more that I don't have evidence unfortunately to provide you, yet it is TRUE - Guy Fieri is a DINNER PARTY chef. Do you know what a DINNER PARTY is? It is a major worldwide "Satanic" programming event. Children are sacrificed by their families, their mothers dress them up fancy, usually it is one of the few times they been dressed up. The days leading up to the event the children are bombarded with a silent subliminal mantra "they are going to respect you at the dinner party", "they are going to respect you at the dinner party" ... "they are going to respect you at the dinner party" - constantly over and over again. They are picked up by a limousine and driven usually to a gothic chateau, yet any fancy house type setting usually will do - there they are sat one to one with adults.
The adults speak in code around them usually snickering and mocking with cryptic jokes, because they are sitting next to their DINNER and their dinner is still alive ("sitting wonderful"). Later in the evening the children are put into a mind control trance such that they cannot run or fight, they are forced in their brain to walk to a room (whether they want to or not), then each one is brutally gang-raped by the dinner party adult guests. Then with the humiliation and fear hormones coursing through them they are murdered (throat slit). They are then brought to the kitchen where they are butchered and prepared by a dinner party chef (Guy Fieri / Gordon Ramsey / Emeril Lagasse, etc (note: most famous tv chefs are dinner party chefs)). The guests have their brains "enhanced" into believing they are having the best meal they have ever had in their entire life. Afterward they have a homosexual orgy that includes a "conga line" (penis inserted to the ass of the next) while dancing around in a circle.
When you see FIFA games, that have children walking out one-to-one with adults that is a crypto-nod to dinner parties, it reinforces the programming and headlock placed on the adult guests. It should be noted that the adult guests are not willful participants FOR THE FIRST DINNER PARTY event they attend, they are compelled to attend. Thereafter if they "run with it" they attend subsequent events and continue on in pursuit of further privileges and benefits. Unfortunately some who were decent have their spirit "broken" at this type of event and then start a path of thievery. People such as Alefantis, Guy Fieri, Gordon Ramsey and Emeril Lagasse are as bad as it gets - they not only know exactly what is going on they are actively facilitating in the hope of ever more privileges and benefits.
And again have no proof, yet I would bet that Bucks Fishing and Camping is actually a place where children are "served". Look at the website front page picture and have a careful look: it's a guy with a BIRTHDAY shirt on (because children are near their birth event (being so young, the starting of a sentiency)) he's butchering a giant steak with a sign that says STEAK cake. It's got a candle through the hole of a donut (crypto-for penis through the ass). It's real meaning is basically: for people who want a "piece of the pie", come eat some sexually abused children who have been butchered and are on the menu.
Here is the suspect menu item: *PRIME New York Strip Steak our Wood-Grilled ‘World-Famous’ Dry-Aged, “Big Steak” (16-18 oz) w/ handcut French Fries... 39.
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It is subtle yet note the NLP of single quotes on the 'World-Famous' this draws the attention for further inspection of the menu-item and we then can look at this "Big Steak" in QUOTES as a form of sarcasm. Look at the price, 39, in occult you can play with numbers and this is cryptically 3 - 9 or 3 - 6 or 666.
The very name Bucks Fishing and Camping is probably a nod to another favorite of people in these circles, a game called "A MOST DANGEROUS GAME". They release naked children or sometimes a full grown woman into the woods and then hunt them down and kill them.
Within the same article: "Alefantis attributes his loose-limbed, casual outlook to his noncompetitive nature, a quality best exemplified by the game in Comet’s name. “I love ping-pong,” he says. “It’s not table tennis. You play to win, kind of, but you’re not trying to kill your opponent. You’re trying to have a good time.”"
In other words, ping-pong NOT table tennis - at this restaurant we don't kill and serve our children, we pass them back and forth for sexual pleasure this isn't Bucks Fishing and Camping.
ddavidson ago
Isn't their "basement" just their back room? There's outside light coming in in one of those pics. Then again, why would he call it a basement if it isn't one?
quantokitty ago
Thanks for that. I'll try to match it up.
Scoundrel ago
I saw a video or some doc about the underground system. The bathrooms and other installations of that period had tiles that definitely when reflected on have a similarity with the artwork. At least to me. It's unreal how big and how widespread this sickness is.
24Rainier7 ago
I noticed that as well, check out my thoughts on this at 53433 .
Edit: I'm sorry new to this , I meant https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1454758 .
burnerdrone03 ago
The most basment-ey looking photo from Jimmycomet's instagram
Headstart ago
Neighbors
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5035 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 0005 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: 1,530 Lot Size: 3,037 SF Year Built: 1932 Garage:
CONNEB II LLC; H A GILL & SON
5031 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 0007 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: 4,500 Lot Size: 4,545 SF Year Built: 1951 Garage:
CHEVY CHASE FINE ART LLC
5039 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , # P6 , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 2013 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: Lot Size: Year Built: Garage:
CONNEB I LLC
5039 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , # P9 , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 2016 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: Lot Size: Year Built: Garage:
**EDWIN S ROCKEFELLER **
5039 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , # T4 , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 2004 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: 2,010 Lot Size: 1,936 SF Year Built: 1980 Garage:
CHEVY CHASE FINE ART LLC
5039 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , # T6 , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 2006 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: 1,841 Lot Size: 1,936 SF Year Built: 1980 Garage:
PATRICK M GROGAN
5039 CONNECTICUT AVE NW , # T2 , WASHINGTON , DC , 20008 APN: 1986 2002 Bedrooms: 0 Bathrooms: Square Feet: 2,012 Lot Size: 1,936 SF Year Built: 1980 Garage:
CONNEB I LLC
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Blacksmith21 ago
Let me add this. Look at my attached graphic. The "realtor" market tries to maximize the "value" of the house when listing them. Realtors will advertise a basement as a second story. The difference is that the DC tax assessor does not recognize finished or unfinished basements as taxable property, so the tax assessment will state 1 story. If you look at the graphic, there are some very obviously 1 story buildings next to CPP. The tax assessor lists these other locations as 1-story, yet the realtor (propertyshark.com) website "markets" it as a two story, because it has a basement. If the building had 2 stories above grade, the tax assessor would assess it as a 2-story building and the realtor would market it as a 3-story building. [sorry, not listing citations, but this is all verifiable data]
https://i.sli.mg/1il2xq.jpg
Blacksmith21 ago
https://i.sli.mg/hPlDtD.png
Blacksmith21 ago
Well, without question, that is a basement - floor joists and a main beam overhead is a giveaway, as is earth below the concrete floor. Now, where it is, is the question.
The construction is very consistent with a building built in the
One thing to note is that basements are not usually counted as taxable space by the DC tax assessor. Which makes me wonder if there is a second story above grade in the building, as indicated by the "2 floors" comments on the tax assessment.
I've got something which may help break this stalemate. Look for post on main page in a minute.
Blacksmith21 ago
42 from the background searches I have seen.
PEi ago
Go to the city hall of records and pull the property file. Anyone can view it, make copies, etc...
The_Periodic_Fable ago
Well if they don't have a basement, where are they doing all the live music concerts??
Plus, I seem to remember one of the vids where red masked psycho bitch Kleinman is talking during a CPP concert, she makes reference to the people "up there," which could mean the floor above. I need to try to find that again...
EDIT: I found the vid I was thinking about. She talks about being underneath a "subway sandwich shop," so not below CPP. This is the vid where she talks about some guy named Jerry who likes little boys & children. Then she says "we all have preferences"
oresd ago
Folks, what is the point of this? The restaurant doesnt have a basement. Enough. There is a basement somewhere he stores tomatoes. Big fucking deal.
Are you really telling me you guys think that this stuff happens in some secret chamber below the restaurant? With all those employees around? Its absurd.
And the tunnel talk, ffs enough. Most cities have tunnels somewhere. So what. This is the kind of banter that encourages the NYT to call this debunked.
Theyrekditalianfood ago
So if this guy could supposedly can so many tons of fresh tomatoes to make his shitty pizzas, don't you think that the amazing storage of such vast volume of condiment should have featured in any article with him? Why was there no mention of storage. The storage issue is the key. The pics of them digging appeared to be under a timber floor, with a ping pong table against the wall.
SIMONBARROW ago
I personally think it would be very odd if Comet did not have a basement. Where else would they store their produce?
However, I think the work shown in the photo was done at a location Alefantis refers to as 'the farm.' We know he has a farm because it is mentioned at least twice in his Instagrams and this looks to me like it would be a farm building. Such a building would be a much better place to perform work like this and to hide bodies than the basement of a fairly busy city restaurant.
sonickid101 ago
http://archive.is/03Lhml link is dead
bryoneill11 ago
I think The Tall Man movie was trying to tell us something about this tunnels
bryoneill11 ago
What about if there are real tunnels. that changes everything
YouaremeandIamyou ago
I just noticed there is manhole in the ground, and some recent concrete work done, just under the comet sign. https://www.flickr.com/photos/fiascony/2757968088/in/photolist-4L64Qv-8FmN5J-6kruSe-AmrfgW-6uM8cy-jy117H-9GBit4-do4q2j-em3EKo-9y9j4n-6PH8Xv-6uGVqx-9GBfHk-9GBeCB-6PMgPb-zpL7VV-6cqZJJ-axU8Y4-emyDGZ-9GEqbW-6cmQ1z-6PH8W2-6cmQpZ-jWTBBp-da298j-ctUPzW-73jzZB-ewgpLA-68EGf2-em3EA3-em3EhN-ekWTVX-em3EUQ-6uM8fU-nfVvMB-5cHiPW-Dfvbm-9GDZiU-9GBd5H-68EFWe-d8N1BW-6cmRo4-5i4eWv-ccwSuw-6cr18L-gNJV3r-oHxmtA-6PMgMj-6cr1fG-ekdaQf/
YouaremeandIamyou ago
the killroom in the instagram photos reminds me of some of the tunnels in the photos on these articles under dc. It appears to have a large bloodstain on the concrete floor. I noticed the same kind of concrete floor in the dc photos, as well as the ventilation and pipes on the ceiling.
Blacksmith21 ago
The "kill room" is actually a walk-in freezer. A refrigerated room restaurants use to store perishable goods.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
very significant I feel.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
wow. you are onto something here. I must look this up.
Rigg5 ago
Pretty sure Comet Ping Pong descends toward the rear of the building which results in a Lower Level and some stairs. Not exactly a second floor, but still accessible with a door going outside.
Phobos_Mothership ago
This picture may not be in a basement as it looks like there is light coming from what looks to be a shipping door on the left. Just playing devil's advocate here, trying to be thorough. The other evidence is still good evidence that there is a basement.
Headstart ago
Here you go.
Preliminary Title Report
Primary Owner: CHRISTOPHER ACHILLES LLC
Secondary Owner: Mail Address: 5037 CONNECTICUT AVE NW WASHINGTON, DC 20008-2024
Site Address: 5037 CONNECTICUT AVE NW WASHINGTON, DC 20008-2024
APN: 1986 0825 Housing Tract Number: Lot Number: 0825 Legal Description: Lot Code: 0825 Block: 1986 Subdivision: CHEVY CHASE Legal Brief Description: LOT:0825 BLK:1986 CITY:WARD 003 SQUARE 1986 LOT 0825 NBHD: CHEVY CHASE City / Muni / Twp: WARD 003
Property Details
Bedrooms: 0 Year Built: 1932 Square Feet: 3,925 Bathrooms: 0 Garage: Lot Size: 4,059 SF Total Rooms: Fireplace: Number of Units: 0 Zoning: C-1 Pool: Use Code: Restaurant No of Stories: 2 Building Style:
Sale Information
Transfer Date: 06/23/2005 Seller: SUZETTE DERZAVIS, Transfer Value: $1,800,000.00 Document#: 200586430 Cost/Sq Feet: Title Company:
Assessment and Taxes
Assessed Value: $1,114,370.00 Percent Improvement: 0.00% Homeowner Exemption: Land Value: $0.00 Tax Amount: $18,387.10 Tax Rate Area: Improvement Value: $0.00 Tax Account ID: Tax Status: Market Improvement Value: Market Land Value: Market Value: Tax Year: 2015
Prior Transfer - 06/23/2005
Recording Date: 06/23/2005 Document#: 200586430
Price: $1,800,000.00 Document Type: Warranty Deed
First TD: $1,440,000.00 Type of Sale: Full Amount on Deed
First TD Doc: 200586431 Lender Name: EAGLEBANK Buyer Name: CHRISTOPHER ACHILLES LLC, Buyer Vesting: N/A Seller Name: SUZETTE DERZAVIS, Legal Description: Lot Number: 0825 Block: 1986 Legal Brief Description: BLOCK:1986 LOT:0825
Htaed ago
We need eyes on comet 24/7. If you're in the area.
Seeing as how pizzagate has the potential to put them in prison where they will definitely be raped to death, they'll move their operations. We really need a basement full of children for the dumb ass public to admit it is a fact.
smiter ago
Moving their ops would be excellent, as it would bring up a whole new set of contradictions, and provide loads more fertile ground for research and cross referencing. Perhaps they even have their own dead man's switch, letting participants know about a new venue. Given the hyper publicity about this, they will be very careful, and highly unlikely to go near CP. However they can't avoid being observed, and they can't shake their deep seated philia, so they'll pop up elsewhere.
Htaed ago
True. It would make it more interesting. But the need for justice gives me anxiety, and without marijuana I'm very impatient.
JrSlimss ago
Has anyone just asked the City Building Department for blueprints? Be helpful if someone on here was an architect. Are basements/crawlspaces ever required or recommended in building designs? Does the DC "swamp" make it impossible for places to have a basement?
LtSilverFox ago
Interesting. Gj
GoldMoose16 ago
Fox news this past Sunday 11/27. Not him speaking directly but Howie Kurtz quoting him. Shitty video, sorry, not mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XigUaUhFeDg
GoldMoose16 ago
Was watching Howie Kurtz on Fox this past Sunday on that media show he does. Same statement was made. Really bad video quality, but here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XigUaUhFeDg
ScottKnight ago
I've got written confirmation of him lying "They ignore basic truths," Alefantis tells BBC Trending. For instance, the conspiracy supposedly is run out of the restaurant's basement. "We don't even have a basement." http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-38156985
"Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in" http://www.metroweekly.com/2015/04/from-scratch-james-alefantis/
Proof the owner of Comet Ping Pong is making contradictory statements.
It's great to be better at giving news than the BBC
Gorillion ago
It's like that Australian journalist who was asking for tips earlier.
What can they do? He even said he doesn't have the time to really research anything himself. Do they even have the journalist's "nose" for a story anymore? That classic knack for lateral thinking and finding story angles? Do they have the necessary network of contacts to get police and other official records that a regular citizen may have difficulty obtaining, in order to make those big story-breaking paper-trails? There would have to be building permits somewhere with actual plans detailing the layout of the building and any additions to the structure, etc.
Journalists can now only talk secondhand about investigations, not actually engage in any meaningful way. At best they are the guys calling the game now, no longer actual players on the field.
Complete failure. In fact, Australian Journalist guy if you're reading this, you'd probably be less in danger of getting yourself murdered if you framed the story of Pizzagate as essentially being about the death of journalism. That regular (if incredibly autistic) citizens have had to take on the mantle of the classic idea of the "journalist class" or "4th Estate", by becoming a sort of crowd-sourced "investigative cloud" (the term "The 5th Estate" has already been coined of course, but my point is specifically about the death of mainstream journalism and it's role in our society).
Naalu ago
I agree with this completely. I got pissed off too at a couple of journalists here asking for us to feed him information. For fuck sake do some research yourself, arent you a journalist after all?!?
YouaremeandIamyou ago
Great idea, re the framing. I was thinking something along those lines too. Journalism has been used to cover this up, so far. I am hoping to see some journalists, distinguish themselves by pointing out the need for real research, in this case.
pizzathrowaway ago
That is Dupont Underground, which ends 3.3 miles from Comet.
hunter3 ago
do basements count as a story?
hunter3 ago
maybe he said "store in the basement" figuratively
quantokitty ago
What do you mean? Could you give a link to a picture?
Blindjustice ago
Real Estate bills of sale or property descriptions can be found in sales of property! Building Codes offices can so can title companies find and locate this information. INCOME TAXES RETURNS?
krisspykriss ago
That's what I order if I am not quite sure about the establishment, for what ever reason. Non-ground meat in the US is basically safe to eat raw. On the other hand, what happens to the steak between being thawed and getting eaten is the most likely introduction of pathogens. I also hate the aged meat trend. It instills a taste that is usually indicative of old meat going bad. If their steaks are aged, I order something else. I find their taste too often to be repugnant.
dFrog ago
There was an anon on /pol/ that said he streamed video when he went in there. It was before Jack Posobiec. He may have been the first one to do this, but I never actually saw the video. He said that everything seemed normal inside, as we've seen, except for a door in the back that had a keypad and a hole where a doorknob would normally go. He said he thought it led to a basement. It definitely was not shown in the street interview clips when Alefantis took them on a tour.
99luftballons ago
The Jack Posobiec one had a black curtain over a doorway. Maybe they took out the door.
Scoundrel ago
If not a basement, James might have possibly created an opening or access to a nearby tunnel or network from his 18 months of permit-less building construction? Placing him and his pedo pals physically off of the property and underground surrounded by darkness. These pedos picked this group of buildings for a reason.
dFrog ago
Yeah, he very well could be referring to something else when he says "basement." I doubt he'd say that Comet has no basement over and over if it could be easily proven false. It seems like he's saying it because he knows he can.
llm2016 ago
This. You know how the MSM all said people alleged that "the pedo ring was led by Hillary Clinton and John Podesta." And his response was "I have not even met Hillary Clinton", as if somehow that helped him distance himself from them.
However, he never mentioned that he did meet John Podesta many times before, but the media never asked him about that.
dFrog ago
What if the basement is in Buck's Fishing and Camping? It'd still be his. If this is the case, he can say "Comet has no basement" all he wants without actually lying. Or, if he has any kind of relationship with Besta Pizza or any other neighboring businesses, it could be a shared basement.
Scoundrel ago
LOL I thought that as well.
hendaiburtu ago
This video has been used in some of the mainstream news "fake news" coverages.
Those guys didn't ask him any tough questions. I suspect the video guys may have been on his side.
HomeboyChris ago
Wish it wasnt so grainy and shaky. Woulda been better to document it all with a decent fixed image camera. You cant really get a feel for that back room. And where is the office? May as well open up Buck's too while he's at it. I would like to have high def well lit photos of every square inch of floor in both locations.
Blacksmith21 ago
OK - so let me throw something out. I'm thinking about going to get a meal at CPP. If I were to do so, I'd like to get a task list and thoughts what type of information I could/should collect:
What else? I'm just thinking about this....no promises.
llm2016 ago
Whether his god-daughter is also there.
HomeboyChris ago
If theres a tunnel portal, there would have to be a seam in the floor of some type. That or a hidden panel (remember the bathroom doors) or there will be some large object on top of the gateway to the tunnel. Research Mexican Drug Tunnel Entrances on google images and get a feel for what the logistics are with such a thing. Most likely would be a pneumatic hatch that cant be just lifted up, has to be activated.
srayzie ago
Amanda Kleinman was on the Kojo show as well. She mentioned people calling her school. I looked into Amanda the other day. She was an 8th grade teacher before! Wow, access to middle school age kids. I also saved a bunch of her photos and her myspace account. I was curious as well because Amanda Kleinman looked a lot more chubby than the other pictures I had seen of her. The pictures I found show that she has gained a lot of weight. So it's her. If anyone is interested in the photos let me know. Her middle name is Fay. I think this band is a lot more involved than just "a band that plays there like twice a year". https://thekojonnamdishow.org/shows/2016-11-30/pizza-propaganda-the-local-fallout-from-fake-news
Stormtrooperx52 ago
https://i.sli.mg/HqeyxT.png 2 sites list the property as having 2 stories/ floors. Alefantis better provide proof of a 2nd floor. Another thing that caught my attention is the fact that the place was purchased with a grant....A fucking grant to open a pizza place...for 1.8 Million? 1.8 Million for what? Everything about this place wreaks of something foul. If you can get a grant to open a pizza shop for 1.8 Million then everyone and their Momma would own one. We need Alefantis to talk more often! I love stupid criminals.
GoldMoose16 ago
A Grant Deed has nothing to do with "grant money" being used. It is a type of deed and is a common real estate term.
MadMonkey ago
Any source on the claim that a grant was used? Thanks
GoldMoose16 ago
Just replied to Stormtrooperx52 about "Grant" so this doesn't stray off. A Grant Deed has nothing to do with "grant money" being used. It is a type of deed and is a common real estate term.
What you really want to find here is who the mortgage holder is. If it was a cash deal, well then there's a whole new rabbit hole.
Here you go https://countyfusion4.propertyinfo.com/countyweb/login.do
Headstart ago
See the Preliminary Title Report I just posted above.
The property is owned by CHRISTOPHER ACHILLES LLC. Property was bought for $1.8 million on 6/23/2005 with a loan for $1.44 million by Eaglebank.
GoldMoose16 ago
Thank you.
MadMonkey ago
Thats a large loan, however does nothing to prove a grant was used.
Headstart ago
I was not trying to show use of a grant or implying a grant was used.
MadMonkey ago
Oh, yes, I'm aware. Just wanted to reiterate.
Stormtrooperx52 ago
https://i.sli.mg/MNSusl.png
oldskeptic ago
This deserves its own submission at Voat, just omit the error about grant.
MadMonkey ago
That doesn't mean a grant was used to purchase it does it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grant_deed
fvckh1m_up ago
"#frankwinsteadwasright
MeatballPizza ago
Nice catch! Wonder what his explanation would be. "Oh I call the back room the basement..." ??
LostandFound ago
Basement is not at cpp it's next door afaik, not ideal but good for long storage. There's like a yard with rear access to both units.
HomeboyChris ago
Its not ideal for what? Do you work there or something? Or previously worked at Comet?
LostandFound ago
God no, just been on this for a while, this was one of the first areas of research after the instagram accounts were found. Il dig through the old reddit stuff asap. Heres the kicker its the same physical building as bucks fishing and tackle his other shop! ..and besta pizza is beside that again same unit. That's right all three are under the same roof. Though besta is registered in Panama...
Look it up on street view though bucks is not listed on maps the full address 5031 Connecticut Ave... is on their site. You can even see the rear car park from the overhead and for fire safety they all need rear access.
There's also public records of a recent health inspection that does not mention it in comet, I think there was more to this but I took that at face value.
Freemasonsrus ago
Remember everyone, it's actually The Little Red Fox next door to Comet. Then Buck's, then Besta. Little Red Fox also has occult imagery inside. Including a painting of an owl and a goat hanging right over each other.
dFrog ago
Is that where people looked up addresses to all the businesses/companies in that area and found that some shared the same address, leading to the conclusion that the buildings were connected underground?
Besta Pizza registered in Panama--Does that come from a whois look up? Both pizzapac.com and goathill.com are protected by Whoisguard, which is based in Panama, so the whois lookup will show that location. I'm sure some people knew this, but I just realized it.
LostandFound ago
Having problems searching the original reddit chains but here's a recent one that all but connect the dots on the registration .. https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1449130
A guy before showed it shared reg address with a bunch of soros entities ( caveat there's like 1000's of businesses with same addy in panama they just registered to a box) and that the person who registered it also was rather dubious. Sorry will provide links as soon as I can find it.
HomeboyChris ago
Yeah I know I wasnt the only one who is curious about what was underneath that place.
HomeboyChris ago
Who are you? Do you have anything documentation of this?
ThinkItThru ago
In this pic posted by the OP, https://i.imgsafe.org/0aab857046.jpg there is an open door on the left hand side with what looks like sunshine pouring in. If this is in a basement, it has an outdoor staircase decending to this door, which could be found by looking around the exterior perimeter of the building. Of course, this door could lead to another basement room with a very bright light on, but to me it looks like natural light. Instead of setting up lamps to work, they opened a door. Also, I agree that the ceiling is kinda high for a typical basement.
HomeboyChris ago
Well lets look at what we have for frame of reference. In the same building is Politics and Prose. They have a basement. How tall is their basement?
pizzathrowaway ago
P&P is not the same building, but their basement is like 7.5 ft
HomeboyChris ago
Why do you keep saying its not the same building? Show me some kind of a gap between them.
pizzathrowaway ago
it's like rowhouses or other directly adjoining buildings. They can even share walls but not be the same building.
HomeboyChris ago
What is your point with that? What would the implications be?
pizzathrowaway ago
that it's not the same building? no reason to assume construction etc is the same, happened at the same time, was done by the same people, etc.
Blacksmith21 ago
This is a good piece of investigative research. This is how evidence is supposed to be presented.
DamnTheTorPEDOES ago
On the Comet Ping pong website it said there were hidden bathrooms. Anything in regards?
dFrog ago
You can see them in Jack Posobiec's Periscope video. The doors to the bathrooms are basically hidden panels.
trump4beastiality ago
Its a witchhunt based on lies, the world watches; real pedophilia exists but pizzagate is a limited-hangout to not look at the real child-sex-slave industry, which has always been right-wing; franklin,mc-martin,boyz-town, ... it is tied to Bush a nazi pedophile family ,,, Alefantis witch-hunt has dozens of blatant lies based on the most flimsy planted evidence. None of this would hold up in court. What happened to 'innocent until proven guilty'? GONE IN TRUMPS AMERIKKA
Pizzagate investigators are the new brown shirts
KnowThyself ago
Planted evidence? Are you implying that someone hacked into Alefantis' IG and posted those pictures and then commented on them and the responded to other peoples comments?
bigDanold ago
#PartOfThePedoCoverUp
DarkMath ago
"based on lies".......Ok, so what is a "Haitian Special with extra cheese"? It's definitely not on the menu at Comet Ping Pong. And please share your rational explanation for why Comet Ping Pong's bartender is pictured crawling on the floor drenched in blood at some sort of after party. Did he just have the "Haitian Special with extra cheese"? ;-)
bibigirl_ ago
Hi mr. Alefantits
Ginger_Snaps ago
Dude, well done.
srayzie ago
This makes sense. I posted this just a few minutes ago... There is a construction company next door to Comet Pizza https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1453670
trump4beastiality ago
MODS MARK THIS AS MISLEADING IT CONTAINS NO EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS A BASEMENT
burnerdrone03 ago
I agree. The most basement like photo from the instagram (with the soil floor) looks to me like it has a door open to the outside meaning it would be at/above ground-level and not a basement.
trump4beastiality ago
Witch Hunts are always this way, no way you can win. Good news is that witch-hunts always boomer-rang back on the assholes that begat them. Kill-Room & basement have always been part of the original plant of insane photos on instagram, this thing was always a 4chan mind-fuck
WatcherWatcher ago
It has what could called be a walk-out basement. Check google street view and "drive" around back of the buildings. The building is kind of on a hill so the front entrance is technically above the rear entrance, which would be a basement. There's a rear-entry door (Ha! Get it?).
HomeboyChris ago
Theres no way to access the back of the buildings on google earth
WatcherWatcher ago
No no. Use google maps / street view. You can maneuver the little guy to a side street / alley and get a view of the rear parking lot. You'll see what I mean. Go look at the "basement" pictures again, you'll see light coming from from outside on the left edge of one of the photos. (The one with pallets of concrete bags and the ping pong table folded up)
HomeboyChris ago
Ive tried it quit bullshitting me. You cant see past the alley off nebraska
safetythrowaway1234 ago
try enabling 3D on google maps
trump4beastiality ago
Pizzagate ppl are the liars, you ask him to come forward and speak, he speaks he says there is no basement, no record of basement no customer has mentioned a basement its been a month now the place gets customers everyday, but nobody has bothered to walk in the door with a pin camera alefantis walked a guy through the place he didn't mention a basement when you prepare food the walk-in cold storage must be very close to the kitchen, we know that the prep pizza in the open no records on file for mod go back to original building plan, must be on file, you can't get build without a permit, the permit must contain all for sign-off by inspectors, all this is public record ... Why nada one fucking investigator has gotten off his ass and gone into city records and pull this stuff? Is there nobody in DC in this witch-hunt? ... The title is misleading if I posted this it would have been deleted
madmanpg ago
That was one hell of an incoherent jumbled rant you went on, there. Very Kerouac.
drunk420 ago
hey look everyone, its Curt Shilling
it_was_foretold ago
kek
Hopevoats ago
According to the health inspector, there is no walk-in.
srayzie ago
Even if the basement is not at that location, there IS a basement!
quantokitty ago
Guaranteed there's one at that location. No doubt.
elgindelta ago
That's a technically. The building according to permits does not have a basement. The tunnels under the structure were preexisting, and subsequently not part of the building construction. Hence.
llm2016 ago
Check the "she's my god-daughter" statement too (the girl with her hands taped on the table). I feel highly suspicious that she would ever be seen again.
Freemasonsrus ago
The one thing I have yet to see anyone mention is the baby with the money, the baby "chicken lover", the little girl holding the Orange, and the girl taped to the table are all the SAME child. The "chicken lover" pic drove me nuts with people trying to force it as being a boy when it was so clearly a girl. Little clues like that shouldn't be missed and are the stupid things they point to to say people investigating are idiots.
NotAnIdiot ago
Someone could surely run facial recognition software on it right?
Freemasonsrus ago
Yes they could. If u just do some basic measurements it gives u a good idea.
SIMONBARROW ago
It looks like a boy to me.
TopGun ago
You only assume it's a girl because the baby is wearing pink. At that age, you really can't discern the person's gender.
Some ultra liberal, feminist families (which CPP is probably full of) raise their boys wearing pink, etc. If people think the child is a boy, it is definitely misleading to tell them they're wrong unless you know the child personally.
ETA: BTW, I also 100% disagree we can confirm the girl taped to the table and the #chickenlover baby is the same person. (Though I agree the taped girl appears in multiple other photos.)
It is entirely a guess because the two individuals are different ages.
llm2016 ago
Are you sure? I don't think they are the same age.
Freemasonsrus ago
That's because they aren't taken at the same time. Read weeks on IG.
llm2016 ago
Still can't really tell. How can you be sure?
Freemasonsrus ago
First, just look at her eyes and hair color. Her eyes look very similar to Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. They stand out in all of the pics. Then compare the weeks that these pics were posted. He obviously has access to this child and her parents aren't bothered by the absurd comments made on his IG. I don't even let other people post pics of my kids on social media, much less let them post pics w suggestive hashtags and comments. I don't know how to post a pic here so just DuckDuckGo "jimmy comet's Instagram" and compare dates. The time between the "chicken lover" pic and the kid taped to the table is 59 weeks, Over a year.
llm2016 ago
I can see that, but how's that going to help?
Freemasonsrus ago
Here's the original link back to the man I believe is in "hole in ground" pic.
Correct. I was looking up the LLC's associated with Alefantis and found one who had a John Kreher listed. If you search for him in DC he comes up on LinkedIn as a Project Manager for construction working for The Ley Group. Funny thing is, I'm pretty sure he was the hole digger from jimmy comet Instagram pics.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-kreher-54551338
Freemasonsrus ago
I will have to look for the link but there is s video detailing the very young couple who owns Little Red Fox on YouTube. Basically it's wondering who they are and how they have the money to not only open this place, (rent has to be outrageous), but the husband is also "managing" the kitchen at Poltics and Prose. We know Alefantis owns Bucks also, so if there are tunnels or collusion they would have to go through Little Red Fox. Now the thing that had me interested is what work permits were given out to Little Red Fox for the build out and also the known fact that Politics and Prose closed shop for (I believe) it was a month to "build out" their new cafe. My question is, was the construction running sometime concurrent to that pic of the hole on IG. Also, the guy standing over the hole I believe is a guy who claims to be a construction manager from Ley Construction. I just tried to look back at their website and it appears to have changed. Let me see if I can find my original comment on this guy and link to his pic. With all of this info everyday it's hard to remember how I found him without my old comment.
C1REX ago
Excellent find. Love the fact that Alefantis mentioned about the basement himself. Thanks for such a great post.
HomeboyChris ago
Glad you appreciate the work
Orange_Circle ago
Nice work!
pizzathrowaway ago
It seems possible that the basement where he stores extra sauce is not on site. There is definitely no basement there.
I'm not sure what photo in the restaurant book you think is in a basement? They all look like the front room area, plus one of the kitchen/bar and one of the bathroom. There's one photo that I can't really tell what it is.
Politics & Prose is not in the same building, though it is in the same complex, a few doors down. The whole strip of stores is kind of on a hill, so the ground level exit from Comet out back is on the same level as the **basement **exit from Politics & Prose, they both exit to the parking lot. See: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Comet+Ping+Pong/@38.9554688,-77.0701022,3a,75y,72.27h,90t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s0-tiSgOn-MJLr6hd2YBmyg!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3D0-tiSgOn-MJLr6hd2YBmyg%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D67.65328%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b7c9b98f61ad27:0x81a8bf734dd1c58f!8m2!3d38.9559497!4d-77.0699666!6m1!1e1
ThorTheWonderful ago
We have similar layouts in my city. Building ranging from single above ground level to 5. But they were all built over 100 years ago and every one of them has underground tunnels and some form of basement.
The reason for this was the boiler tunnels for municipal heating. These tunnels can and usually are large enough to drive a truck down them but used to be littered with boiler pipes and other services.
Today, in some of the larger buildings, there are ally's and stairs and all sorts of weird access way deep inside these buildings almost like entering into an old city. These give access to the backs of stores and sometimes low rent office spaces or strange boutiques. They give a very cool view of the internal construction of these old building too and sometimes you can still see remnants of an old world with boardwalks and architecture not seen on the exterior facade.
dookiehowzer ago
use the arrows to get to the front door of politics and prose and look on the ground around you
quantokitty ago
It's just amazing that when Alefantis says that they store the tomatoes in the basement, someone pops up disagrees with that. HTH do you know? And the OP is right about the real estate listing. I've gone on four different sites and plunked in that address. The number of stories is: TWO. So perhaps the basement is hidden from you. You know, like the bathrooms are hidden behind secret panels.
SecureYourSeats ago
I would love to take a closer look at the south wall in that "children's party room". I would think the door to the basement (if there was one) would have to be on that wall. Someone mentioned that the place has hidden doors (plural) yet all we've observed are the hidden bathrooms, if that's all why didn't they just say "hidden bathroom doors". I was very suspicious of how James seemed to hurry the camera guy out of that children's room (IE. by walking rapidly out the door himself willing the camera guy to follow him and Alefantis didn't stop walking until the camera guy was out of the room, then he paused as if ready to talk.
SIMONBARROW ago
The statement Alefantis made first about the basement is going to be the more reliable statement, because it was made before he knew that it would matter one day whether or not Comet had a basement. The alternative is to assume that Alefantis is a compulsive liar who wanted to impress by saying that they make their own sauce once a year and store it for use all year round. A lie now (to cover up Pizzagate) seems much more likely than a lie then (to impress a food reviewer).
quantokitty ago
Absoutely.
Even if he was going to say he made his own sauce, to concoct a story about a basement when they didn't have one would make no sense. I mean, was there the slightest chance the reviewer would follow up a simple statement like, "We make our own sauce," with "You do? Well, where do you do that? Do you have a basement to store things because I don't see one and don't understand where the tomatoes could be kept so if you don't have underground storage I'm going to call you out for being a liar and making things up"? No, there wasn't. It was a light-hearted, superficial article designed to promo Alefantis and his great new pleasure pizza palace.
The previous statement is the important one.
riggington ago
If there was no other evidence, I'd say lying to impress a food reviewer is better explanation than having all this shit going on.
NotAnIdiot ago
That's the thing...
riggington ago
I know, right?
SIMONBARROW ago
Well, I've checked it out thoroughly now. The tinned tomatoes are stored in the basement at Buck's. Since that's only two doors away from Comet, the statement that Comet doesn't have a basement is true in the strict sense but actually misleading.
riggington ago
You should probably post your findings with sources somewhere. Also, they storing tomatoes somewhere else does not mean they don't have a basement. And they could have easily just filled it with concrete after this started spreading. They got money and power.
SIMONBARROW ago
Sources are all there.
pizzathrowaway ago
the bathrooms aren't hidden behind secret panels, they just have confusing doors.
quantokitty ago
Are you paid to be obtuse? Paraphrasing doesn't count. Are the panels secreting the bathrooms? Answer: Yes.
http://www.cometpingpong.com/street-cred/
Freemasonsrus ago
So who's basement is he storing sauce in? Where is the large walk in cooler area shown on pics? Why were they digging a hole in the ground? Why were there no permits for said work? Maybe we should ask Ley Construction.
HomeboyChris ago
If theres another basement, i want to know about that one too
cyks ago
Now there are two basements if you ask me.
HomeboyChris ago
Third image down on the right
pizzathrowaway ago
oh, yeah, that's the one that I can't tell what it is. If it's a basement it's got a REALLY unusually tall ceiling, judging from that ladder.
thelawofone ago
kind of looks like the ceilings in the instagram construction pics though, similar height?
HomeboyChris ago
So what more obvious possibility are you suggesting?
pizzathrowaway ago
well the ceiling height is about the same as everywhere else on the main floor. So it might be somewhere else on the main floor.
Also, amazon says this book came out in 2008, so it might be a photo of the back room before they had finished up the back room? I really don't know though. I wish we had a better quality version of the picture.
HomeboyChris ago
The ceiling height appear to be no higher than the room in the instagram photos with the construction. Actually kinda looks like the same room imo.
pizzathrowaway ago
yeah, i couldn't figure out what room that was either. But can't be a basement because it's clearly open to the outdoors.
HomeboyChris ago
No because look at the light overhead. Same lighting effect. Most likely a brightly lit room.
pizzathrowaway ago
light overhead is skylight.
HomeboyChris ago
No idea where you pulled 'skylight' out of
pizzathrowaway ago
there's skylights all through the center of comet.
HomeboyChris ago
Im talking about the florescent fixture
pirawrr ago
Even if there were a basement at Comet Ping Pong previously, it is likely that it has been covered up by now. What would be the next move for these degenerates? How do we go from these smoking guns all the way to conviction?
CosmicSponge ago
the good and bad is that they can't help themselves. They are like drug addicts. they will keep on going back for more and when the supply runs low they will absolutely stop at nothing to get a fix. Hopefully this leaves them open to exposure.
pirawrr ago
I think a predictable move on their part would be to stay quiet and change symbols slowly but surely and perhaps adopt new iconography and code language while the hype around pizzagate dies down. They will surely move their operations as well.
HomeboyChris ago
We dont know that.
waxdino ago
10 tons of tomatoes = over 3000 cans. It takes about 6lbs of tomatoes to fill an industrial sized 100oz can. 20000/6=3333.
Maybe that's not significant, but that detail irritates the fuck out of me. Is he lying? Exaggerating? Has a really huge basement?
madmanpg ago
No sane pizzaria owner would order a ton of tomatoes unless he would be planning to serve hundreds of guests in the span of a few days. If he really cared about freshness, even a single ton would be mostly waste. My guess is that he was exaggerating, as "ton" is pretty common vernacular when people mean "a large amount".
roundhouse1776 ago
Are you insinuating that they had huge stores of tomato sauce that isn't actually tomato? Or just pointing out an inconsistency?
waxdino ago
I have wondered if tomatoes mean something else, but, really I'm just pointing out the inconsistency. Not only has he said he has a basement, he suggested that there's room for thousands of cans down there.
Freemasonsrus ago
It's not just that. That process is actual manufacturing which requires a manufacturing setup. You don't do that by hand or a kitchen aid mixer. So either there is another manufacturing location, (possible), that also has a basement, or he's lying about the sauce, the amount or the basement or all three. I think the profile pic on IG is much more enlightening and actual proof of pattern of behavior.
carmencita ago
I also have a hard time believing a pedophile. They are very good at lies. Evidently we have to definitely investigate this further.
oldskeptic ago
Earlier pics of the Comet's interior had the open kitchen located on the left side, to the rear of the building.
The recent undercover video shows the kitchen now located on the right wall, a bit more towards the front, and enclosed. Anybody else see this?
It would be very expensive to relocate an entire commercial kitchen if it was over a slab floor. Prohibitively expensive. Maybe Alefantis is playing word games again, something he's quite skilled in. Could it be more of a crawl space, just not generous enough in height to qualify as basement?
crazimal ago
since they did move kitchen and documented it on instagram, trenching the slab for drains etc., it obviously was not cost prohibitive, and it's not that unusual a remodel job. DIY and avoiding permitting vastly reduce the cost, as documented.
it's curious though that: 1. "no basement" 2. kitchen moved 3. slab disturbed 4. owns business 2 doors down WITH basement 5. massive pizza oven built in new kitchen -what's under the oven, stays under the oven.
Sure, there could be a laboriously concealed secret tunnel, secret basement, graves, portal to hades, etc under comet. Or he could be storing stuff in the other place with a basement, or at the farm where the tomatoes come from. Or he could be typical bullshitter getting cans of tomatoes off a truck from Jersey every week (ie a typical restaurant guy) and blowing farm-to-table smoke up the interviewer's ass. At 4oz per pie and 60 pies a day X 350 days/year he could use 3 tons of tomatoes in a year.
Despite the "what-if's," me the whole basement tangent may be irrelevant to the key issues: suspicion of money laundering and child exploitation/abuse. Red herring?
But seriously, what is under the pizza oven? It could weigh several tons depending on how it's built...
pizzathrowaway ago
do you have a source for pics with kitchen on the left?
oldskeptic ago
Sorry for the late reply, no message was prompted on my screen. Probably my blockers. Noting a most recent vid of Comet's exterior had the sign mirrored, maybe an old pic of the interior had the same image-reversing property. Didn't save the older images and interviews. Now I wish I had.
Orange_Circle ago
What's he digging the hole in if its not the basement?
oldskeptic ago
If it was me, and I was accused of having a torture room, saying "no basement" again and again just would not do.
I'd say, "Not only is there no basement here, but there isn't even as much as a crawl space or a utility tunnel. There's nothing under the solid concrete slab floor except for hard-packed earth"
Since Alefantis is so wordy about everything else, why doesn't he expand a bit about this basement thing?
angular_planes ago
but I thought that when he said there's no basement that meant there was no basement... Thanks infinitely, good find
quantokitty ago
There was someone on here talking about going back to governmental surveying records. He said he'd post the results. I'm hoping he does, in a separate thread so it doesn't get lost because if he does find proof, it'll be major!!!
Nice catch! Thanks for posting.
sometimessage ago
I wonder if the tax acessor's records are available, we might find some clues there.
quantokitty ago
I have an idea how we can find out. Maybe I'll do some sleuthing ...
sometimessage ago
property tax detail copy of bill
maybe we can get ahold of Branden Wells to see if he noted a basement.
anon123 ago
BOOM! Caught lying red handed. Nice work OP.
HomeboyChris ago
Thanks this is something I've been working on for a while.
carmencita ago
ALEFANTIS: Well, we make everything from scratch. Other restaurants, even good restaurants, will, like, not roast their own peppers. You can just buy the roasted peppers in a can. Or you can buy garlic oil. Some products you can get, and they’re consistent and they’re easy. But I didn’t even know that existed actually until they said that. I was like, “What do you mean? There’s another way? You can just buy these things?” Because a lot of restaurants will open a can and put it on. Like our sauce — we harvest a whole crop of organic tomatoes — 10 tons of tomatoes every year. Can them all, store them in the basement, have like a harvest party when it gets loaded in. WOW!!! You are so right. I don't know what to say. I have heard this go back and forth on here, but now I see it in print. Thanks for posting this.
TheDude2 ago
There's either a basement or he uses shitty canned sauce. Either way I wouldn't eat there.
laura0714 ago
I found an article where he specifically states he stores the sauce in Buck's basement. I don't think there is an actual basement at CPP. Tunnels, secret area, maybe, but this article does say he's storing them in Bucks basement https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/san-marzanos-the-bible-of-tomatoes/2013/08/12/85485c1a-fa32-11e2-9bde-7ddaa186b751_story.html?utm_term=.9a6b86c0f921
VnVnV ago
hopefully not a Walnut Sauce
carmencita ago
I have read reports that the food is pretty good, so I would not put it past him to be lying and forgetting he said it in the article. Maybe we will get definite proof.
Freemasonsrus ago
I'm just assuming there's human content in the sauce and/or meats. I've always thought the pizza oven was for disposal as well. Makes the most sense. Easy cleanup.
ThorTheWonderful ago
Do they make their own "salami" "pepperoni" etc., there, I wonder, the ground "beef" would be easy.
PizzaAccount ago
All the stuff that goes on there and you won't eat it because of the sauce?! Monster!! /s
catslovejustice ago
Thanks for the laugh! I needed that. :)
krisspykriss ago
If I had to eat there, I would actively search for something that most likely came from a can. Or something vegan. Preferably canned though. Any reputable restaurant I would probably order a ribeye... rare and blackened.