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#CURRENT FOCUS AREAS
##FBIAnon suggested areas of Pizzagate research. Very long, multiple posts
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1430910
FBIAnon was someone who posted on 4chan over the past few months giving us a heads up as to what was going on internally. The above thread goes through his comments and pulls out the hints and guides he posted. Start by going through there and investigating the leads that you can help with, and posting a summary.
##Wikileaks blockchain investigation
Call for everyone that is familiar with OpenSSL, Python, C coding and Bitcoins blockchain to start looking at the insurace files Wikkileaks released on election day after they came under a heavy ddos attack.
More specifics here - https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1434672/6980671
endchan thread: https://endchan.xyz/pol/res/20366.html#21412
/r/bitcoin thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/5dqufl/blockchain_experts_the_world_needs_your_help_the/
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Anyone can help with this. Here is a great set of images summarising the whole thing - https://twitter.com/pizza_gate/status/802274755898441728?lang=en
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GETTING UP TO SPEED - WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR
Message to journalists on the legitimacy of this investigation: https://archive.fo/MrsGu#selection-1807.0-2093.34
THE SHILLS ARE HERE
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OTHER ACTIVE COMMUNITIES
8chan /pol/ constantly have a thread up about this. This is the last active link as of today http://8ch.net/pol/res/8335333.html
4chan /pol/ usually has a thread up, but their forum moves faster than 8chan. Visit the catalogue page (http://boards.4chan.org/pol/catalog)) and look for an "EWO" or Eyes Wide Open thread. This was the last up that I saw - http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/100167519
Twitter has a very active #pizzagate hash - https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&vertical=news&q=%23pizzagate&src=typd
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d347h574r ago
You want to know what I think? After shockingly reading all of this information over the last 3 days, a few things have become pretty clear.
The information that is available is very strange and very suspicious, but unless you guys are seeing something I'm not, it is not PROOF of anything. There should be at least some, preferably a lot more HARD evidence. I've seen all the instagram pictures, read all the e-mails, I know about Monica Petersen. There isn't one shred of what would be called PROOF anywhere. It would not be even remotely difficult for a jury to be passed through the needle of reasonable doubt on this. There needs to be a smoking gun, and no one has it yet.
The inflammatory nature of the videos and comments that are floating around are fucking clickbait horseshit. I just watched one where the guys calls Marina Abromovich's spirit cooking rituals satanic, because, well, they look satanic and we all know what satanic rituals look like. Oh really? I fucking don't, and I'm pretty sure he didn't and none of you do either. All these kinds of videos are doing is discrediting this entire investigative process.
The widespread censorship that is going on suggests, yes, they are in panic mode, but are also now fully aware of the gravity of the situation. A month ago, we were at the part in the movie where the level headed cop tells the hot-headed cop that "We don't have any proof! We need to lay low, build a case, let them go about their business like nothing is wrong so we can catch them in the act". Instead of laying low, we let the hot-head kick in the door, contaminate the crime scene and physically assault the perp. The lawyer has now shown up, taken the perp away and they are devising a strategy to move forward, are likely destroying or covering up any other evidence that might be laying around and putting everyone who might be involved on high-alert as well. Anyone who is involved with the alleged acts are on high alert and getting the smoking gun evidence will be next to impossible now. Like Tom Cruise in "A Few Good Men" said, "It doesn't matter what you believe, it only matters what you can prove!". Well, now we probably can't prove shit.
These people, if the allegations are true, are going to go back into hiding and wait for this to blow over, and sure as shit, it will, just like all the other "YOU WON'T BELIEVE THIS" headlines that have come to light over the last few years. I fell sick to my fucking stomach that any of this could be true, but I am even more disgusted at the people using this as an opportunity to generate views on their fucking blogs or otherwise irrelevant youTube channels. If any of this was true, these people are so powerful and influential, there would have had to have been the use of subterfuge and make it so they couldn't see it coming. All those instagram accounts that were being waved in our faces like they were proud? All locked and private. All those e-mails that are supposedly so damning? How many of those do you think are going to to see the light of day now? Not only do they see it coming, its a fucking parade marching down the middle of the street yelling and screaming and waving banners, proud that "We're coming to get you, you fucks! WOOOOO!". I suspect that the chance of a smoking gun coming to light now is next to impossible and probably the chance gets worse with each passing minute. Sure, we know about how reddit can alter their site now, we know that MSM is biased and tells lies. But we wanted to save those children, and not only did we not save them, we probably made it so we never will.
Someone please tell me how wrong I am, because I am going fucking puke thinking that there might be monsters that are just going to get away with this. If there is a smoking gun out there, it needs to be found, like fucking YESTERDAY.
EndThePizza ago
I agree with pretty much everything you said. We don't have any actual proof yet, and we need something truly undeniable if they're going to be held accountable. The cheap clickbait presentation really makes it look like some "crazy conspiracy theory" that should be ignored. I wish people hadn't tipped them off, because it would've helped greatly with getting real evidence.
However, I don't think we ever would've found any type of "walk in on them molesting children" evidence. I think the best evidence possible is in records: donations, emails, etc. In this regard, the problem is that we never got Phase 3 from Wikileaks.
We might not immediately have something to put them in jail, but this is going to hit the mainstream soon. At that point, it won't actually be evidence that matters, it will be public opinion. I'm not sure even the media will be able to play this off as if they're innocent.
The FBI has an ongoing investigation into the Clinton Foundation that they've been working on for a long time. I have to think they've got information that we don't - we only have what's publicly available. I don't know if they need us to find links to help put the pieces together, or shift public opinion to make it possible for them to release what they have. (I'm sure they're under pressure not to 'out' all these powerful people. But if there's public outrage, then they have to.)
When FBI Anon shared his hints, he must've known that the internet wouldn't keep it a secret. He knew that if he leaked info it would spread - that's why he leaked it in the first place.
There's more people investigating this every day, and nobody's going to let go of this. It's too big and too heinous.
FriendshipMystery ago
Who is FBI anon?
EndThePizza ago
A few months ago there was a user on 4chan who claimed to be with the FBI. They gave a bunch of information about who the Clinton Foundation was doing bad business with. Some of it has turned out to be true, and a lot of people think he was legit and not a troll.
d347h574r ago
Thank you for your response :)