it was at top because i stickied it - made it 'stay' there. I changed the sticky to an excellent summary someone made so now that's at the top.
The money laundering fell away because it was an older post - but what I've done is add it to the sidebar for easy access. A lot of people have been asking after it.
@Crensch, I patched the CSS issue with nested comments becoming unreadable in Dark mode. Are there any other readability issues or bugs? I'm not sure where is ideal to post this.
@kingkongwaswrong would you happen to know if anyone has been able to authenticate the Computer App Ping Pong instructions? That has to be damning evidence if so.
It's so ****ing sick and in your face if it's true:
For the newcummers-
“Last month’s satisfied customers were raving about our pizza and we know you will too. Repeat customers know the drill. For newcummers(sic), first run the program given to you by your special friend and all instructions on how to enjoy this joyous hobby will be easily understandable. But please, remember the penalties for breaking the rules which are also included in the program. Very few have broken the rules and needless to say the penalties are harsh. All pricing is included in the App. The app will only run once, and the following requirements must be met: (sic)
* The app is to be run from your own personal computer that only you have access to.
* Your computer must be connected to the internet when run
* The App must be run from your home
* You must destroy the media on which you received the App.
* Remember the password that will activate the app as there will be no icons on your computer.
November Newcummers(sic):0
November’s Specials-
This month we have five fresh pizzas for your enjoyment. We also have four surviving pizzas from last month’s session, all are on sale at an extremely low price as they are in poor health and not expected to survive so a requirement is that you finish eating your pizza after your session.
This month’s special includes a 30% discount on severe torture! Each image below is available for $1,000 in fine print. Andrew also has some prints he would like to sell, so contact him for more information. (they are true masterpieces.)”
@kingkingwazwrong, sjwniggerfaggotpizza. This user is insulting people generally and randomly, trying to provoke them. Appears to hate people, for wanting to investigate this case. please look at the comments they are making.
no we do not, we have a pretty tough time just trying to manage this sub as it is... would you like to join the mod team as an archivist? I can add you to our https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods sub and that can be your responsibility?
Your CSS theme is messed up a bit. Specifically, it gets very difficult to see certain nested comments (on night mode) as they render lighter grey text on a white background. If no one on your team knows how to fix, I'll take a look at it for you if you like.
There are other minor things, but that's a pretty big one which merits quickly fixing.
thats not something we can change. that's the design of the entire site. I like it actually, it means you need to be established as a person who adds value before you can push things down. Get involved !
I have concerns about a user called pizzathrowaway. First he said there is no basement in Comet pizza, with no offer of evidence. Then he -i'm guessing a he- says the gun guy going into the comet pizza looks like a real thing. I apologise if I am wrong, but i hope this person will understand, it is better to be safe than sorry, and to err on the side of caution, when it comes to the safety of children
This numbchuck is a shill or what? Deleting relevant discussions, threatening users with being irrelevant in his/her/its opinon i frankly don't care about. Secondly, stop downvoting my discussions and the posts of the participants. This is not a kindergarten. If you are some hillary shill, that would explain. Keep your hands off the investigation. It is not for some mod kid to decide what is relevant, what should be upvoted. Comprende?
Please ping @numbchuck so he sees this post, and @crensch as he is another lead moderator, so they both ahve visibility (this way they get the notification
please give me the links for the posts that were deleted so I can have a look. They should be in the moderation log - they never fully get deleted.
This way we can all have a look and have a chat about it. Thanks!
Thanks @kingkongwaswrong! Appreciate the reply and willingness to review. When we put work into something that's just dismissed, one gets angry and discouraged. Especially when it is deleted without discussion. The connection was explained in the threat - granted - a long shot - but not impossible. Still related, and this what rule 2 is all about I'd think.
Submission /v/pizzagate/1448105 deleted \
I didn't see any connection explained - you told people to look for some specific connections which may or may not have been there. There was no obvious connection.
You have to state how you think it's related to pizzagate, you cant really just pick up any crime and say 'please investigate, there could be a connection'. If you think it COULD be related (based on gut feeling etc) do some research and see if there are any leads. It's not really fair to ask the community to go and research things that you think COULD be related, but don't have any obvious evidence or connections for.
Understand where you are coming from - though a hunch sometimes has to be parked, and as the connection was possible (as explained, investigative reporters, even tho sports people here) may be connected. There is ample of precedent for deliberate plane crashes to silence witnesses. Appreciate your view, though.
Finding it v concerning that user numbchuck is incoherently deleting investigative discussions with unqualified remarks such as "Not relevant" when relevance and reasoning for pursuing this avenue cautiously was clearly explained. Now, numbchuck is threatening another discussion with irrelevance.
I think your contribution, user numbchuck, are disqualifying YOU from hosting any investigation as it requires the ability to connect dots and think ahead a few street corners that the average person may not see.
If a connection is reasonably explained, whether you agree with it or not, it should not be touched by any admin. You are not the investigator. You are not doing the leg work. Unbelievable.
This is turning to be like a kindergarten, than VOAT is a mini-me of a new China style board. Your deletions and radical actions have absolutely nothing to do with keeping the investigation on target and irrelevance out. If I posted a thread about fire trucks in Ohio, I would understand that this thread would be not even deleted but moved. So, keep your hands off our investigation please.
I have some info I came across but feel too freaked to post it. I need to send a PM to a mod but I need 10 upvotes to send a PM. I only have 7 right now. If I can get a couple more upvotes I can pass that info on. Thanks.
Oops, edit, I thought I had 7, I guess I only have 1...lol...the 7 was the upvotes I gave others....
Could you PM me so I can reply? I can't PM any Mod because I don't have enough upvotes and my request for an upvote was downvoted by someone, so now I don't have any points. I have some info for you to vet. Thanks!
"Yeah a conference maybe get it on C-SPAN I bet aton of people will check it out... Oh wait my eifr was getting fucked with my consent right there oops I'm a liberal faggot" ~ NigsFromTwigs
@gumpgump why are you calling my work on DearmanDoesHampstead disinfo? What do you gain by discrediting me? Everything I have put into my blog is backed up by links and screen shots. You, yourself told everyone you worked for Tavistock, so obviously you're trying to destroy this case. Ella Gareeva/Draper, mother of the two Hampstead kids warned us about you in this video "GumpGump" used to run a blog called "Hampstead Research " It was an information gathering hub and a psyop, she is now trying to discredit my work. She even posted my name on one of her voat posts. She really needs to be banned for doing so.
I am verry concerned about kingkong (just deleted an others sub of mine) and
Many others with me. like this comment has not been answered properly.
[–] Galvarian 0 points (+0|-0) 1.1 days ago
I am concerned about the rules here. Specifically:
1) Unfounded, outlandish connections will be removed. —This is extremely subjective to the opinion of the Mods. Mods should only be concerned with illegal posts like CP. They have no business determining what is outlandish or unfounded. #PizzaGate itself is outlandish.
2) EVERY new claim needs a valid, clear source and an explanation as to why it's relevant. — pure bullshit. The reason we are here is to investigate leads. Not just read "Valid" talking points and again. who is determining what is a "Valid" claim? The Mods?
3) While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation. —Again, I call bullshit. Who the fuck are you protecting? Jews? This is an investigation and it should follow wherever it leads no matter the "religion" (oh, but linking to Satanism is ok?).
What is freedom of expression and freedom of investigation? Without the freedom to offend it ceases to exist. The Mods are stifling the Freedom of expression and the freedom of investigation based on their OPINIONS.
If you don't stop this crap, you will go the way of Twitter and Reddit. Someone will start a REAL freedom of expression site like www.gab.ai and you will all go bye bye like probably you should.
Yep, it's obvious what this board is for - protecting the kikes. It's a wildfire that they want to contain to a group of sacrificial lambs to protect the Jewish luciferian cult as a whole. Targetting the ENTIRE JEWISH CULT is what the goal should be here. That is the cancer that needs to be removed otherwise this will continue ad infinitum just as it has done throughout Europe for centuries.
Board has been compromised and I'll be spreading the word far and wide.
The name Karaim, meaning "Scripturalists", distinguished these Jews from the camp of the Rabbis who called themselves Rabaniyin ("Followers of the Rabbis") or Talmudiyin ("Followers of the Talmud").
http://www.karaite-korner.org/history.shtml
They either follow the Talmud or follow Rabbis who follow the Talmud which encourages the Jew to rape gentile children.
No, Jewishness encompasses both cultural and religious identity.
The American Jewish Identification Survey, published by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York in 2001, reported that 49% of American Jews describe themselves as secular or somewhat secular. One-half of American Jews are completely unaffiliated, belonging to no Jewish organization.
Here is what you are. Misdirection. We know this because you refuse to let the people post connections outside of that pizza shop. You are trying to subvert voat and bring it down another way.
Exactly what you are. Take a look at your life dude. It doesn't have to be this way. People love you. There are awesome, rewarding jobs out there that will fulfil you. Just trust. peace
This is like when you label a trash bin "complaints box". Make your own thread if you have a problem. Watch it get upvoted to the very top in hours, and then get deleted by kingkong.
CP probably was put there by the CEO spez to try to shut it down and potentially get people arrested at the same time. I mean I have no proof it was spez but we know why his site is now and in perpetuity going to be called "Eddit".
I am concerned about the rules here. Specifically:
1) Unfounded, outlandish connections will be removed. —This is extremely subjective to the opinion of the Mods. Mods should only be concerned with illegal posts like CP. They have no business determining what is outlandish or unfounded. #PizzaGate itself is outlandish.
2) EVERY new claim needs a valid, clear source and an explanation as to why it's relevant. — pure bullshit. The reason we are here is to investigate leads. Not just read "Valid" talking points and again. who is determining what is a "Valid" claim? The Mods?
3) While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation. —Again, I call bullshit. Who the fuck are you protecting? Jews? This is an investigation and it should follow wherever it leads no matter the "religion" (oh, but linking to Satanism is ok?).
What is freedom of expression and freedom of investigation? Without the freedom to offend it ceases to exist. The Mods are stifling the Freedom of expression and the freedom of investigation based on their OPINIONS.
If you don't stop this crap, you will go the way of Twitter and Reddit. Someone will start a REAL freedom of expression site like www.gab.ai and you will all go bye bye like probably you should.
1) Galvarian wants to do away with the rules and make this a free for all. Also, my brother-in-law's cousin told me she saw a Youtube video where someone proved that Galvarian is a paid shill on John Podesta's payroll and she said there is a picture of Galvarian eating pizza at Commet Ping Pong. My accountant's girlfriend said that she had analyzed the photo and Galvarian has a reptilian eye shape in the photo. This is absolute 100% smoking gun proof that Galvarian is a reptilian alien shitlord who wants Hillary Clinton to bring on the global apocalypse!!!!one1!!one
Now, you want that to be a main post because what is outlandish is subjective?
There is a post on here right now:
NEW VIDEO (11/26/2016): "Podesta Brothers Were in Portugal When Madeleine McCann Was Kidnapped - #Pizzagate"
I asked if there is some evidence of this claim. This is the response I got:
At the moment I do not. Just heard this news today. Digging more into this and will post findings as soon as I get them.
Personally, I think this should be removed. Go on and investigate it, fine. Lots of people have been trying to find evidence of this. All they have is an absence of email from the particular date of the kidnapping. We have an absence of evidence. We have nothing incriminating or exculpatory either way. The fact that (as far as I know) it's still there is evidence that the mods are being lenient in interpreting and applying this rule.
3) I think this has been sufficiently explained by the mods in how they are applying it. If there is a link between this inquiry and a religious figure or institution it will be allowed. 'The jooooos are evil and trying to destroy the world and Pizzagate is irrefutable proof of that REEEEEE' posts should be moderated into the dustbin.
-Your freedom of expression is not stifled. You have plenty of places on Voat to be offensive and express yourself.
I am concerned about a submission rule, and it's the one that's causing all the fuss.
While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation.
Can you explain to us why satanism is excluded from the rule but no other religions are? This decision enables mods to delete posts relevant to pizzagate just because the formal name of the religion is not "satanism".
Secondly, it is illogical to disallow any talk about race or religion in this subverse. If a clear trend can be seen where perpetrators are of a specific religion or race, this is very relevant information. This is the same reason why people of the Arabic race and Muslim religion are being focused on by anti-terrorist organizations. Because they are statistically overwhelmingly overrepresented in terrorist associations.
as per the rules, if a post has good sources, and logically explained connections, its ok regardless of race, religion etc. Its when its unfounded, unconnected etc that it will be removed.
I feel like it should be mentioned that we are better off digging deeper into things like Comet Ping Pong, and deepweb sites that deal with human trafficking, rather than posting websites of American pizza parlours and saying "could this pizza place be hiding something?"
We should go where the EVIDENCE leads us, not where our minds may have us wander.
All mods on /voat/pizzagate are working for or controlled by HASBARA and Andrew Kline.
How do we know?
U know because U know who you cannot criticize.
Andrew Kline & Podesta are running the voat/pizzagate thread very well, anybody that step's outside of adolescent talk of pizza is quickly deleted
any mention of fbi, cia, mossad or nsa is told to go to /conspiracy, trouble is that anybody that has followed the #PedoPLAN for say 20+ or 40+ years knows that PEDOPHILE entrapment of cops,mil, and politicians if pervasive in USA history since J Edgar Hoover
FBI has kept files on politicians since 1920's, even before that the FBI went by another name but their gig was the same.
Podesta emails got children to think about pedophilia, but they act like its new, and now we're told that to investigate #PedoGate you must only talk about PIZZA, this is BULLSHIT, when you talk about Child Fucking in USA you must talk about CIA, NSA, MOSSAD, and FBI, DOJ, and all GOV, for all are involved.
Listen I was molested as a child by GOV, and I posted my story and it was deleted by KING-KONG, it seems the very narrative is very narrow here, either you talk about pizza or they snuff you.
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My post was called "Elephant in Room, #Pizzagate is now the blue-pill in the Matrix Movie"
Its a real problem, ppl say they want to solve pedophilia, but you mention CIA who created this political game of owning controlling the politicians your are banned, this narrative that immy-comet controls the pedophile world ring from his shop is the insane conspiracy theory that 'king kong' wants mainstreamed on this site.
It's hysteria over here. We are still in the fallout of the Reddit ban. There's also the fallout of the case itself. Many are stunned and angry to even hear about pedophilia. We are like moths to a flame buzzing about. If this gathering is intended to be crowd-sourced investigation it isn't working that well. I look through the threads and it's a lot of side chatter. Pretty much like a high school cafeteria. You have to listen intently to find a good conversation. I'm not sure of the capabilities of voat. I mean, can we have sections like say investigation, research, past cases and history, chatter? Or maybe tag your posts as such? It seems like an impossible platform for crowd-sourced research without some organizational structure in place. Another idea I have is to have a thread sign up for teams of voaters who would take on one aspect of the case. ie. who wants to sign up for research on the Terrasol file? Or Alefantis file? Or whatever. Then we could have people dedicated on a particular section of the case. Something has to be done though. It's losing its focus and energy. The Reddit ban was very effective.
Research? lol there's little of that here so far. No different than Reddit. If people want to get serious the shitposting has to stop. And to suggest not having mods is ridiculous. It would be a complete shitstorm without mods. voats alone are not enough to regulate the flood of new posters and shill brigades. People think the mod is corrupt okay fine but by that logic you need to also agree that a shit ton of shills would be part of that conspiracy too. And if that's the case then letting the voats decide on what mosaic of word spew is most relevant is a broken method.
No. I think mods are needed and organization is needed if we are to really get anywhere with this.
There's been research and revelations. We wouldn't have the traction if there weren't any to begin with. I never said I was against mods. I'm for organization and structure which the mods can provide. We need a framework to work with.
It really is simple what has to happen..... No law enforcement is going to pick this up it is all circumstantial. Someone needs to go in like this gentleman did except they need to take a different approach. I'm not advocating violence or criminality just simply walk in to the public establishment on a Friday or Saturday night and make your way to the back. If you are asked to leave then do so respectfully while obeying the law..
Unfortunately he never made his way behind the curtains to the "party room" Some of you may think this is dangerous but do you really think that this place is going to want even more public attention? It NEEDS to be done we NEED physical evidence to justify a serious investigation
The ring is closed. Long gone. They've moved on. About the only you can for is to get sonar photographs of the underground tunnel system if there is one or try that black light technique of photographing blood spatter. I forget what that tech is exactly.
And sadly they will just pop up somewhere else nearby.. What they are going through is a severe addiction they won't just be able to stop just like Mr. Clinton wasn't able to learn after his impeachment.. It will go on and on and on and continue to be JUST another "conspiracy theory." Something needs to be done immediately instead of just talking about it and giving them more than enough time to cover everything up...
Whitewash? Or keep from being irrelevant? OK, don't delete them, but put a flair on them that marks them as previously debunked and link to the debunking. Or have some sort of link block if a link is already posted. But the front page being full of shit isn't helping anyone investigate anything.
Compiled, organized subsections would help focus ppls efforts...one could research something they really felt compelled to research more easily.
It would also help everyone understand that there are basic categories of research in general that need development and manpower/assistance (vs. thinking these are all just loosely-related threads -- the threads are actually much more connected than some might realize).
i dont think pizzathrowaway is assuredlyathrowaway. As for the other stuff like alt account supvoting stuff i cant say. I can say he seems genuine and has been working hard.
If I was moding I'd remove a few things on the front page that are proven false and keep getting reposted as OMG. But that's me. I can't get my post linking the NYTimes Carlos Slim to a video I remembered from years ago and I'd saved it in my bookmarks as "they ate humans". I posted it, but it can't get seen. I wish we had separate threads to post links between movers and shakers so we can start connecting the dots better.
I dig what I feel...and what I'm good at. I outed that Real True News guy who posted the fake OMG we helped FBI raid computer...and as soon as I outed him he deleted and ran off. Now people keep posting new threads referring to it and it's like...WTF> kill it with fire before it starts discrediting us which was the entire point of doing it.
What about focusing on the Clinton Foundation and branching out from there? We're not going to get a smoking gun on Comet Pizza, it's been looked over a hundred times already.
Yes, I'm convinced that Comet Pizza is heavily involved in this as well, but it's not stuff that can be used in a court of law. If our goal is to shift the court of public opinion to the point where law enforcement can no longer ignore this scandal, then yea the Comet Pizza /Alefantis stuff is very damning.
Having just looked at another Instagram account where there was the odd child photo, I can say yeah. It is super suspicious. Normal people point out the name of the children and their connections with some measure of pride. Not jimmycomet. Totally creepy af.
I'm not sharing any personal details in light of the potential danger of this investigation. The fact that you're asking raises huge alarm bells for me.
huge alarm bells, sounds a bit defensive. People need to know they can trust the moderators. Surely there are ways of verifying that you can be trusted , without revealing your identity? ..I personally wish we did not have to hide our identities. I think we should all use real names. This is work to be proud of. They are the ones, that should be hiding, not us.
I'd recommend going easy on deletions. Find someone to help you out with flairing posts and just tag things that are trolls or off topic to alert users. I know a lot of you can't downvoat yet but eventually more will be able to help curate that way.
A lot of shills followed pizzagate here and voat's gotten good at sniffing them out. They'll go away and your real members will get established enough to voat.
can also block spam/shill/troll accounts, although I'm not sure how much that actually does. Just blocked those 3/4 accounts (Pizza_Jews, PizzaStein, Pizzaro, PizzaCrew; purposefully did not tag them) spamming hardcore about Judaism and all saying the same shit over and over pretty much verbatim. Literally the only ones pushing it.
My theory is thsts it's more about prostitution and drug running. The pedo stuff is a definite part of it. But the real money is basic human trafficking and prostitution/drugs/extortion/blackmail
Yes, and who runs this the CIA/FBI since the 1930's got files on the politicians and compromised them, today its Epstein/Trump, 50 years ago it was J Edgar Hoover.
PPL say here they're saving the children, but the elephant in the room is the CIA,FBI, DOJ [ Andrew Kline], and until you focus on them and name names, then all of #pizzagate is a circle-jerk
All this bullshit about comet-pizza juvenile, and stupid, and the NYT & WaSH-PO has called u all on it.
Too early to lump in Trump
He was certainly at minimum in their crosshairs. Have to wait and see what happens next before we know. If nothing happens, then we know...
@kingkingwazwrong, I think there's too much random content and spam going on. Posting random, loosely-related conspiracy videos is obscuring the directive of the sub
i agree, but we can surely find a way, of organising them. can we put them in priorities. or can we link the ones that are about similar topics in one thread? I have put a few up, that relate to other thread. i will try to link mine. maybe we can have a filtered down section, of just the most important leads. we have the combined mental power of thousand here. we can do it!
I think we should have a rule if its already been posted unless you have a more compiled version or add information the post should be removed.
Maybe we could start a Pizzagate Meme/advertising subverse for spreading the word in the real world. That or maybe even a sub for specifically new information. Leave pizzagate a little bit more open but have links to the Newinfo subverse.
we need the facts all in one place, in order.. and like you said, a breaking news and meme/advt section just to help get others up to speed on the subject!
This is why we need a type of wiki. A running sticky at the top that gets modified all the time. If info is in there people can see it and not repost. Reposting was terrible in the Reddit threads. It was a mess. You'd have people posting all caps. LOOK SMOKING GUN! About stuff that was weeks old...
100% this. way too many nutty people around here now. i dont even blame em. this scandal attracts the mentally ill from all corners of the conspiracy universe. this sub should be moderated and all unrelated threads should be deleted.
How do you differentiate the nutty people versus the reasonable ones? Can you give me an example of what a "nut" would say? I made an account just to find out what signs to look out for.
They make sensational, crazy-sounding claims without any real evidence to support them (e.g.Lizard People), and they submit extremely tenuous non-leads and other things that have no apparent connection to Pizzagate. Basically these types fall into two categories: (1) shills trying to distract us and make us look crazy and (2) borderline schizos/useful idiots.
The perps are, relative to the average person, complently broken mentally and criminally and clinically insane given that THEY RAPE AND KILL CHILDREN TO STEAL THEIR ENERGY AND CONTROL THEM.
Now you tell fucking me - How the fuck do you explain HOW the minds of these occultist sick fucks think without MAKING ONE SOUND LIKE A "WHACKJOB CONSPIRACY THEORIST" in your terms?
It's logically impossible and to me smacks of wanting to suppress the beliefs and secrets of the two flies in the ointment, Jews and Freemasons, that motivate their abominable behaviour -** Like a shill protecting their own**
My suggestion would be to sidebar something that listed known crimes and the people who committed them. In conjunction with a list of places to report those crimes, investigators can create a paper trail and awareness in law enforcement. If you make a report, you can also send it to the press and, with enough interest, they will follow up.
Also sidebarred should be a link to a thread with the most solid infographics linked, so that people can be encouraged to share them on social media. #pizzagate is great and catchy. #hillaryforprison and other hash tags should be listed. There needs to be a steady, concerted effort to generate awareness and interest.
Ultimately, a centralized database is what is needed on map out connections. Getting people to participate is like herding cats, though.
I would sticky something similar to, but more comprehensive than, the chan threads' OP for Comet Ping Pong or Eyes Wide Shut. You should also be linking to other investigating groups to create cooperation and redundancy. Also, clintonfoundationinvestigation.com appears to be pretty solid. It would be nice one get a hold of their Google docs that got nixed by google.
Hey if you can pull together links for any of the stuff you mentioned that would be super helpful, then I can put it somewhere in either the sticky or sidebar.
Keep up the good work. Don't let the shills get you down. They attempt to manufacture anxiety and anger, so just remember those feelings are fake and keep your zen.
when they get 'deleted' they dont actually get deleted, they are just no longer shown on the hot, new, top views of the sub. if you go to the modlogs you can still comment and talk in the thread. Theres no 'move' option to my knowledge.
JoeJoe ago
@kingkongwaswrong
I don't know if you can answer my questions.
Also, I made no motion to upvote as I understand I need a tally of 100.
Not being accusatory, just seems strange and I would like to know what is causing these glitches.
JoeJoe ago
How have I managed to upvote a comment when my SCP is 12 and CCP is 9?
Also, I made no motion to upvote as I understand I need a tally of 100.
kingkongwaswrong ago
it was at top because i stickied it - made it 'stay' there. I changed the sticky to an excellent summary someone made so now that's at the top.
The money laundering fell away because it was an older post - but what I've done is add it to the sidebar for easy access. A lot of people have been asking after it.
mergen ago
They are sanitizing the USAID website.
The philippine page no longer has references to their anti trafficking operation.
I have no access to archiving sites, I cannot upload files online too. Don't ask.
heygeorge ago
@Crensch, I patched the CSS issue with nested comments becoming unreadable in Dark mode. Are there any other readability issues or bugs? I'm not sure where is ideal to post this.
Crensch ago
Hmm... /v/voatdev? /v/ideasforvoat? Not really sure on that one bud.
heygeorge ago
I was specifically talking about the CSS in v/pizzagate, which is why I pinged you.
Edit: I'm not allowed to make a new post to this sub
Ms_1776 ago
@kingkongwaswrong would you happen to know if anyone has been able to authenticate the Computer App Ping Pong instructions? That has to be damning evidence if so.
It's so ****ing sick and in your face if it's true: For the newcummers-
“Last month’s satisfied customers were raving about our pizza and we know you will too. Repeat customers know the drill. For newcummers(sic), first run the program given to you by your special friend and all instructions on how to enjoy this joyous hobby will be easily understandable. But please, remember the penalties for breaking the rules which are also included in the program. Very few have broken the rules and needless to say the penalties are harsh. All pricing is included in the App. The app will only run once, and the following requirements must be met: (sic) * The app is to be run from your own personal computer that only you have access to. * Your computer must be connected to the internet when run * The App must be run from your home * You must destroy the media on which you received the App. * Remember the password that will activate the app as there will be no icons on your computer.
November Newcummers(sic):0
November’s Specials-
This month we have five fresh pizzas for your enjoyment. We also have four surviving pizzas from last month’s session, all are on sale at an extremely low price as they are in poor health and not expected to survive so a requirement is that you finish eating your pizza after your session.
This month’s special includes a 30% discount on severe torture! Each image below is available for $1,000 in fine print. Andrew also has some prints he would like to sell, so contact him for more information. (they are true masterpieces.)”
http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=58783
YouaremeandIamyou ago
@kingkingwazwrong, sjwniggerfaggotpizza. This user is insulting people generally and randomly, trying to provoke them. Appears to hate people, for wanting to investigate this case. please look at the comments they are making.
kingkongwaswrong ago
no we do not, we have a pretty tough time just trying to manage this sub as it is... would you like to join the mod team as an archivist? I can add you to our https://voat.co/v/pizzagatemods sub and that can be your responsibility?
heygeorge ago
Your CSS theme is messed up a bit. Specifically, it gets very difficult to see certain nested comments (on night mode) as they render lighter grey text on a white background. If no one on your team knows how to fix, I'll take a look at it for you if you like.
There are other minor things, but that's a pretty big one which merits quickly fixing.
kingkongwaswrong ago
sure i just noticed it. I'll make you a designer - can you fix it?
heygeorge ago
I don't see why not. Invite accepted.
Crensch ago
Sounds about right to me.
MeatballPizza ago
duerheltdum
Here to post insults and flames at actual members.
kingkongwaswrong ago
thats not something we can change. that's the design of the entire site. I like it actually, it means you need to be established as a person who adds value before you can push things down. Get involved !
MeatballPizza ago
This guy's name and his comments are inflammatory. Obvious shill:
sjwniggerfaggotpizza
YouaremeandIamyou ago
I have concerns about a user called pizzathrowaway. First he said there is no basement in Comet pizza, with no offer of evidence. Then he -i'm guessing a he- says the gun guy going into the comet pizza looks like a real thing. I apologise if I am wrong, but i hope this person will understand, it is better to be safe than sorry, and to err on the side of caution, when it comes to the safety of children
kingkongwaswrong ago
oh what happened?
kingkongwaswrong ago
can you write up something? Then I can put it in.
Gab001 ago
NUMBCHUCK WTF
This numbchuck is a shill or what? Deleting relevant discussions, threatening users with being irrelevant in his/her/its opinon i frankly don't care about. Secondly, stop downvoting my discussions and the posts of the participants. This is not a kindergarten. If you are some hillary shill, that would explain. Keep your hands off the investigation. It is not for some mod kid to decide what is relevant, what should be upvoted. Comprende?
kingkongwaswrong ago
Hey there. Few things to help me help you
This way we can all have a look and have a chat about it. Thanks!
Gab001 ago
Thanks @kingkongwaswrong! Appreciate the reply and willingness to review. When we put work into something that's just dismissed, one gets angry and discouraged. Especially when it is deleted without discussion. The connection was explained in the threat - granted - a long shot - but not impossible. Still related, and this what rule 2 is all about I'd think. Submission /v/pizzagate/1448105 deleted \
cc: @numbchuck @crensch
kingkongwaswrong ago
I know the feels man. We've been stepping on a lot of toes here, but our ultimate aim is to help the community investigate efficiently.
I had a look at the deletion (https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1448105)) and reason given ("Rule 2") - both rules 2 and 3 apply here I think.
I didn't see any connection explained - you told people to look for some specific connections which may or may not have been there. There was no obvious connection.
You have to state how you think it's related to pizzagate, you cant really just pick up any crime and say 'please investigate, there could be a connection'. If you think it COULD be related (based on gut feeling etc) do some research and see if there are any leads. It's not really fair to ask the community to go and research things that you think COULD be related, but don't have any obvious evidence or connections for.
That's my position I guess.
Happy for @crensch, @kevdude and @numbchuck to weigh in
Gab001 ago
Understand where you are coming from - though a hunch sometimes has to be parked, and as the connection was possible (as explained, investigative reporters, even tho sports people here) may be connected. There is ample of precedent for deliberate plane crashes to silence witnesses. Appreciate your view, though.
Crensch ago
Exactly correct. "hey guize ahm lazy r stupid an can't think so find the link here cuz its af un game!" Fuck that noise.
Gab001 ago
Finding it v concerning that user numbchuck is incoherently deleting investigative discussions with unqualified remarks such as "Not relevant" when relevance and reasoning for pursuing this avenue cautiously was clearly explained. Now, numbchuck is threatening another discussion with irrelevance.
I think your contribution, user numbchuck, are disqualifying YOU from hosting any investigation as it requires the ability to connect dots and think ahead a few street corners that the average person may not see.
If a connection is reasonably explained, whether you agree with it or not, it should not be touched by any admin. You are not the investigator. You are not doing the leg work. Unbelievable.
This is turning to be like a kindergarten, than VOAT is a mini-me of a new China style board. Your deletions and radical actions have absolutely nothing to do with keeping the investigation on target and irrelevance out. If I posted a thread about fire trucks in Ohio, I would understand that this thread would be not even deleted but moved. So, keep your hands off our investigation please.
Thank you.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
I can't make comments. I get a red OK instead. Does anyone know why this is happening?
kingkongwaswrong ago
huh. I would take screenshots and go to /v/askvoat and ask them whats happeneing (if you dont already have an answer). I'm not sure whats going on
YouaremeandIamyou ago
thanks . It hasn't happened for awhile. If it does again, I'll screenshot it.
MillennialHarvestMes ago
I have some info I came across but feel too freaked to post it. I need to send a PM to a mod but I need 10 upvotes to send a PM. I only have 7 right now. If I can get a couple more upvotes I can pass that info on. Thanks.
Oops, edit, I thought I had 7, I guess I only have 1...lol...the 7 was the upvotes I gave others....
MeatballPizza ago
KingKongPingPong = CTR shill. Started threads attacking mods, etc.
kingkongwaswrong ago
For a sec there i thought you were talking to me and was like 'wat?? Meatballpizza thinks im a shill!!??' :P
You want to come on as a mod man? we need more
MillennialHarvestMes ago
Could you PM me so I can reply? I can't PM any Mod because I don't have enough upvotes and my request for an upvote was downvoted by someone, so now I don't have any points. I have some info for you to vet. Thanks!
UglyTruth ago
"I'm shilling right now. Get fucked faggot" ~ L_A_trump
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1447761/6993799
UglyTruth ago
"Yeah a conference maybe get it on C-SPAN I bet aton of people will check it out... Oh wait my eifr was getting fucked with my consent right there oops I'm a liberal faggot" ~ NigsFromTwigs
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1447761/6993799
Both new accounts
kingkongwaswrong ago
I've added him to the shill list, just keep downvoting his posts. There are some other concerns about him coming through
ListenUp ago
@gumpgump why are you calling my work on DearmanDoesHampstead disinfo? What do you gain by discrediting me? Everything I have put into my blog is backed up by links and screen shots. You, yourself told everyone you worked for Tavistock, so obviously you're trying to destroy this case. Ella Gareeva/Draper, mother of the two Hampstead kids warned us about you in this video "GumpGump" used to run a blog called "Hampstead Research " It was an information gathering hub and a psyop, she is now trying to discredit my work. She even posted my name on one of her voat posts. She really needs to be banned for doing so.
Letsdoit ago
I am verry concerned about kingkong (just deleted an others sub of mine) and Many others with me. like this comment has not been answered properly.
[–] Galvarian 0 points (+0|-0) 1.1 days ago I am concerned about the rules here. Specifically:
1) Unfounded, outlandish connections will be removed. —This is extremely subjective to the opinion of the Mods. Mods should only be concerned with illegal posts like CP. They have no business determining what is outlandish or unfounded. #PizzaGate itself is outlandish.
2) EVERY new claim needs a valid, clear source and an explanation as to why it's relevant. — pure bullshit. The reason we are here is to investigate leads. Not just read "Valid" talking points and again. who is determining what is a "Valid" claim? The Mods?
3) While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation. —Again, I call bullshit. Who the fuck are you protecting? Jews? This is an investigation and it should follow wherever it leads no matter the "religion" (oh, but linking to Satanism is ok?).
What is freedom of expression and freedom of investigation? Without the freedom to offend it ceases to exist. The Mods are stifling the Freedom of expression and the freedom of investigation based on their OPINIONS.
If you don't stop this crap, you will go the way of Twitter and Reddit. Someone will start a REAL freedom of expression site like www.gab.ai and you will all go bye bye like probably you should.
Gab001 ago
Amen Bro! Mine deleted too by user numbchuck . Outrageous. Hands off. If not, we will call you out for being a reddit clone.
pizzamate ago
Yep, it's obvious what this board is for - protecting the kikes. It's a wildfire that they want to contain to a group of sacrificial lambs to protect the Jewish luciferian cult as a whole. Targetting the ENTIRE JEWISH CULT is what the goal should be here. That is the cancer that needs to be removed otherwise this will continue ad infinitum just as it has done throughout Europe for centuries.
Board has been compromised and I'll be spreading the word far and wide.
UglyTruth ago
Google Sabbatean, asshat.
pizzamate ago
Fuck off, Izzy. You're all Talmudic luciferian filth.
UglyTruth ago
Fuck you, you ignorant piece of shit.
The name Karaim, meaning "Scripturalists", distinguished these Jews from the camp of the Rabbis who called themselves Rabaniyin ("Followers of the Rabbis") or Talmudiyin ("Followers of the Talmud"). http://www.karaite-korner.org/history.shtml
pizzamate ago
A relative handful of kike scriptualists won't save the rest of the child-fucking Jews.
UglyTruth ago
The fact that most Jews are not Karaite doesn't make them paedophiles, fuckwit.
pizzamate ago
They either follow the Talmud or follow Rabbis who follow the Talmud which encourages the Jew to rape gentile children.
Yebhamot 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."
Aboda Sarah 37a: "A gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."
Quite obvious why the scum have been reviled for centuries and the predominant group in Pizzagate.
UglyTruth ago
No, Jewishness encompasses both cultural and religious identity.
The American Jewish Identification Survey, published by the Graduate Center of the City University of New York in 2001, reported that 49% of American Jews describe themselves as secular or somewhat secular. One-half of American Jews are completely unaffiliated, belonging to no Jewish organization.
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/jewish-secularism/
kingkongwaswrong ago
Exactly what you are. Take a look at your life dude. It doesn't have to be this way. People love you. There are awesome, rewarding jobs out there that will fulfil you. Just trust. peace
angular_planes ago
This is like when you label a trash bin "complaints box". Make your own thread if you have a problem. Watch it get upvoted to the very top in hours, and then get deleted by kingkong.
DentHouper ago
CP probably was put there by the CEO spez to try to shut it down and potentially get people arrested at the same time. I mean I have no proof it was spez but we know why his site is now and in perpetuity going to be called "Eddit".
Galvarian ago
I am concerned about the rules here. Specifically:
1) Unfounded, outlandish connections will be removed. —This is extremely subjective to the opinion of the Mods. Mods should only be concerned with illegal posts like CP. They have no business determining what is outlandish or unfounded. #PizzaGate itself is outlandish.
2) EVERY new claim needs a valid, clear source and an explanation as to why it's relevant. — pure bullshit. The reason we are here is to investigate leads. Not just read "Valid" talking points and again. who is determining what is a "Valid" claim? The Mods?
3) While some hypothesis and guesses are good to have, things about races, religions, (besides possibly satanic stuff,) and other unfounded or non-useful generalizations are not relevant to this investigation. —Again, I call bullshit. Who the fuck are you protecting? Jews? This is an investigation and it should follow wherever it leads no matter the "religion" (oh, but linking to Satanism is ok?).
What is freedom of expression and freedom of investigation? Without the freedom to offend it ceases to exist. The Mods are stifling the Freedom of expression and the freedom of investigation based on their OPINIONS.
If you don't stop this crap, you will go the way of Twitter and Reddit. Someone will start a REAL freedom of expression site like www.gab.ai and you will all go bye bye like probably you should.
DentHouper ago
1) Galvarian wants to do away with the rules and make this a free for all. Also, my brother-in-law's cousin told me she saw a Youtube video where someone proved that Galvarian is a paid shill on John Podesta's payroll and she said there is a picture of Galvarian eating pizza at Commet Ping Pong. My accountant's girlfriend said that she had analyzed the photo and Galvarian has a reptilian eye shape in the photo. This is absolute 100% smoking gun proof that Galvarian is a reptilian alien shitlord who wants Hillary Clinton to bring on the global apocalypse!!!!one1!!one
Now, you want that to be a main post because what is outlandish is subjective?
NEW VIDEO (11/26/2016): "Podesta Brothers Were in Portugal When Madeleine McCann Was Kidnapped - #Pizzagate"
I asked if there is some evidence of this claim. This is the response I got:
Personally, I think this should be removed. Go on and investigate it, fine. Lots of people have been trying to find evidence of this. All they have is an absence of email from the particular date of the kidnapping. We have an absence of evidence. We have nothing incriminating or exculpatory either way. The fact that (as far as I know) it's still there is evidence that the mods are being lenient in interpreting and applying this rule.
3) I think this has been sufficiently explained by the mods in how they are applying it. If there is a link between this inquiry and a religious figure or institution it will be allowed. 'The jooooos are evil and trying to destroy the world and Pizzagate is irrefutable proof of that REEEEEE' posts should be moderated into the dustbin.
-Your freedom of expression is not stifled. You have plenty of places on Voat to be offensive and express yourself.
kingkongwaswrong ago
I see this and I appreciate it. Made me chuckle on the inside.
Argumentative ago
this entire sub feels dodgy, best off sticking to the chans for this shit imo
TAThatBoomerang ago
I am concerned about a submission rule, and it's the one that's causing all the fuss.
Can you explain to us why satanism is excluded from the rule but no other religions are? This decision enables mods to delete posts relevant to pizzagate just because the formal name of the religion is not "satanism".
Secondly, it is illogical to disallow any talk about race or religion in this subverse. If a clear trend can be seen where perpetrators are of a specific religion or race, this is very relevant information. This is the same reason why people of the Arabic race and Muslim religion are being focused on by anti-terrorist organizations. Because they are statistically overwhelmingly overrepresented in terrorist associations.
kingkongwaswrong ago
as per the rules, if a post has good sources, and logically explained connections, its ok regardless of race, religion etc. Its when its unfounded, unconnected etc that it will be removed.
kingkongwaswrong ago
ANYTHING that has a logical and well sourced explanation for how it ties in is ok, regardless of race, religion etc.
SIMONBARROW ago
Looks like this subverse is being hijacked by people trying to put the genie back in the bottle.
kingkongwaswrong ago
there is s much hijacking going on. Makes me wonder how much 'subtle' shilling was going on over at reddit =/
Phobos_Mothership ago
I feel like it should be mentioned that we are better off digging deeper into things like Comet Ping Pong, and deepweb sites that deal with human trafficking, rather than posting websites of American pizza parlours and saying "could this pizza place be hiding something?"
We should go where the EVIDENCE leads us, not where our minds may have us wander.
kingkongwaswrong ago
yes you're right. I'm not sure how much of the random posts are people trying to be helpful but in the wrong way, or just shills discrediting us
whoisonfirst ago
All mods on /voat/pizzagate are working for or controlled by HASBARA and Andrew Kline.
How do we know?
U know because U know who you cannot criticize.
Andrew Kline & Podesta are running the voat/pizzagate thread very well, anybody that step's outside of adolescent talk of pizza is quickly deleted
any mention of fbi, cia, mossad or nsa is told to go to /conspiracy, trouble is that anybody that has followed the #PedoPLAN for say 20+ or 40+ years knows that PEDOPHILE entrapment of cops,mil, and politicians if pervasive in USA history since J Edgar Hoover
FBI has kept files on politicians since 1920's, even before that the FBI went by another name but their gig was the same.
Podesta emails got children to think about pedophilia, but they act like its new, and now we're told that to investigate #PedoGate you must only talk about PIZZA, this is BULLSHIT, when you talk about Child Fucking in USA you must talk about CIA, NSA, MOSSAD, and FBI, DOJ, and all GOV, for all are involved.
whoisonfirst ago
Listen I was molested as a child by GOV, and I posted my story and it was deleted by KING-KONG, it seems the very narrative is very narrow here, either you talk about pizza or they snuff you.
... My post was called "Elephant in Room, #Pizzagate is now the blue-pill in the Matrix Movie" Its a real problem, ppl say they want to solve pedophilia, but you mention CIA who created this political game of owning controlling the politicians your are banned, this narrative that immy-comet controls the pedophile world ring from his shop is the insane conspiracy theory that 'king kong' wants mainstreamed on this site.
sentryseven ago
It's hysteria over here. We are still in the fallout of the Reddit ban. There's also the fallout of the case itself. Many are stunned and angry to even hear about pedophilia. We are like moths to a flame buzzing about. If this gathering is intended to be crowd-sourced investigation it isn't working that well. I look through the threads and it's a lot of side chatter. Pretty much like a high school cafeteria. You have to listen intently to find a good conversation. I'm not sure of the capabilities of voat. I mean, can we have sections like say investigation, research, past cases and history, chatter? Or maybe tag your posts as such? It seems like an impossible platform for crowd-sourced research without some organizational structure in place. Another idea I have is to have a thread sign up for teams of voaters who would take on one aspect of the case. ie. who wants to sign up for research on the Terrasol file? Or Alefantis file? Or whatever. Then we could have people dedicated on a particular section of the case. Something has to be done though. It's losing its focus and energy. The Reddit ban was very effective.
justforthissubverse ago
Research? lol there's little of that here so far. No different than Reddit. If people want to get serious the shitposting has to stop. And to suggest not having mods is ridiculous. It would be a complete shitstorm without mods. voats alone are not enough to regulate the flood of new posters and shill brigades. People think the mod is corrupt okay fine but by that logic you need to also agree that a shit ton of shills would be part of that conspiracy too. And if that's the case then letting the voats decide on what mosaic of word spew is most relevant is a broken method. No. I think mods are needed and organization is needed if we are to really get anywhere with this.
sentryseven ago
There's been research and revelations. We wouldn't have the traction if there weren't any to begin with. I never said I was against mods. I'm for organization and structure which the mods can provide. We need a framework to work with.
justforthissubverse ago
Yeah my comment was an it hyperbolic. But there is a lot of tail chasing going on without organization.
MAGABoomer ago
shitposting..hides the other stuff. LOL. Idiots.
kWinter ago
It really is simple what has to happen..... No law enforcement is going to pick this up it is all circumstantial. Someone needs to go in like this gentleman did except they need to take a different approach. I'm not advocating violence or criminality just simply walk in to the public establishment on a Friday or Saturday night and make your way to the back. If you are asked to leave then do so respectfully while obeying the law..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaHl7BL9zhU&t=870s
Unfortunately he never made his way behind the curtains to the "party room" Some of you may think this is dangerous but do you really think that this place is going to want even more public attention? It NEEDS to be done we NEED physical evidence to justify a serious investigation
sentryseven ago
The ring is closed. Long gone. They've moved on. About the only you can for is to get sonar photographs of the underground tunnel system if there is one or try that black light technique of photographing blood spatter. I forget what that tech is exactly.
kWinter ago
And sadly they will just pop up somewhere else nearby.. What they are going through is a severe addiction they won't just be able to stop just like Mr. Clinton wasn't able to learn after his impeachment.. It will go on and on and on and continue to be JUST another "conspiracy theory." Something needs to be done immediately instead of just talking about it and giving them more than enough time to cover everything up...
MAGABoomer ago
Whitewash? Or keep from being irrelevant? OK, don't delete them, but put a flair on them that marks them as previously debunked and link to the debunking. Or have some sort of link block if a link is already posted. But the front page being full of shit isn't helping anyone investigate anything.
SaveTheChildren ago
Just seems kind of slow to me personally.
CJJacobs ago
Compiled, organized subsections would help focus ppls efforts...one could research something they really felt compelled to research more easily.
It would also help everyone understand that there are basic categories of research in general that need development and manpower/assistance (vs. thinking these are all just loosely-related threads -- the threads are actually much more connected than some might realize).
Godspeed.
tallorder ago
Saw this in my Gab feed.
https://i.sli.mg/ZV0ViJ.png
edit: Just putting it out there; I don't know if the accusations are true or not.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
i too have concerns with pizzathrowaway. I have posted about it recently on this thread.
kingkongwaswrong ago
i dont think pizzathrowaway is assuredlyathrowaway. As for the other stuff like alt account supvoting stuff i cant say. I can say he seems genuine and has been working hard.
MAGABoomer ago
If I was moding I'd remove a few things on the front page that are proven false and keep getting reposted as OMG. But that's me. I can't get my post linking the NYTimes Carlos Slim to a video I remembered from years ago and I'd saved it in my bookmarks as "they ate humans". I posted it, but it can't get seen. I wish we had separate threads to post links between movers and shakers so we can start connecting the dots better.
I dig what I feel...and what I'm good at. I outed that Real True News guy who posted the fake OMG we helped FBI raid computer...and as soon as I outed him he deleted and ran off. Now people keep posting new threads referring to it and it's like...WTF> kill it with fire before it starts discrediting us which was the entire point of doing it.
roundhouse1776 ago
What about focusing on the Clinton Foundation and branching out from there? We're not going to get a smoking gun on Comet Pizza, it's been looked over a hundred times already.
kingkongwaswrong ago
you are right, even fbi anon said CF was the thing to focus on.
SaveTheChildren ago
To me, comet pizza have some pretty chilling evidence. I'm 100% convinced on that front.
roundhouse1776 ago
Yes, I'm convinced that Comet Pizza is heavily involved in this as well, but it's not stuff that can be used in a court of law. If our goal is to shift the court of public opinion to the point where law enforcement can no longer ignore this scandal, then yea the Comet Pizza /Alefantis stuff is very damning.
sentryseven ago
Having just looked at another Instagram account where there was the odd child photo, I can say yeah. It is super suspicious. Normal people point out the name of the children and their connections with some measure of pride. Not jimmycomet. Totally creepy af.
kingkongwaswrong ago
I'm not sharing any personal details in light of the potential danger of this investigation. The fact that you're asking raises huge alarm bells for me.
YouaremeandIamyou ago
huge alarm bells, sounds a bit defensive. People need to know they can trust the moderators. Surely there are ways of verifying that you can be trusted , without revealing your identity? ..I personally wish we did not have to hide our identities. I think we should all use real names. This is work to be proud of. They are the ones, that should be hiding, not us.
lilbuddyy ago
That, sir, was the right answer.
kingkongwaswrong ago
the shills are aggressive >_>
Wellwerefucked ago
The constant re-upload of disinfo like the 'hidden comet-pizza menu featuring price list' that's done the rounds.
sentryseven ago
That looks like it could be real to me if anything. We'll see.
MAGABoomer ago
Legit questions.
0iamlordeyayaya0 ago
I'd recommend going easy on deletions. Find someone to help you out with flairing posts and just tag things that are trolls or off topic to alert users. I know a lot of you can't downvoat yet but eventually more will be able to help curate that way.
A lot of shills followed pizzagate here and voat's gotten good at sniffing them out. They'll go away and your real members will get established enough to voat.
kingkongwaswrong ago
you're right. the community is getting better at doing this. Thank god
safetythrowaway1234 ago
can also block spam/shill/troll accounts, although I'm not sure how much that actually does. Just blocked those 3/4 accounts (Pizza_Jews, PizzaStein, Pizzaro, PizzaCrew; purposefully did not tag them) spamming hardcore about Judaism and all saying the same shit over and over pretty much verbatim. Literally the only ones pushing it.
kingkongwaswrong ago
yeah thats what im hoping for. its exhausting
0iamlordeyayaya0 ago
It'll settle down the users here will grind down the new shills and you guys will learn to recognize good ol amalek and throw dvs at him immediately.
justforthissubverse ago
My theory is thsts it's more about prostitution and drug running. The pedo stuff is a definite part of it. But the real money is basic human trafficking and prostitution/drugs/extortion/blackmail
whoisonfirst ago
Yes, and who runs this the CIA/FBI since the 1930's got files on the politicians and compromised them, today its Epstein/Trump, 50 years ago it was J Edgar Hoover. PPL say here they're saving the children, but the elephant in the room is the CIA,FBI, DOJ [ Andrew Kline], and until you focus on them and name names, then all of #pizzagate is a circle-jerk
All this bullshit about comet-pizza juvenile, and stupid, and the NYT & WaSH-PO has called u all on it.
justforthissubverse ago
Too early to lump in Trump He was certainly at minimum in their crosshairs. Have to wait and see what happens next before we know. If nothing happens, then we know...
pzag8t3 ago
@kingkingwazwrong, I think there's too much random content and spam going on. Posting random, loosely-related conspiracy videos is obscuring the directive of the sub
YouaremeandIamyou ago
i agree, but we can surely find a way, of organising them. can we put them in priorities. or can we link the ones that are about similar topics in one thread? I have put a few up, that relate to other thread. i will try to link mine. maybe we can have a filtered down section, of just the most important leads. we have the combined mental power of thousand here. we can do it!
sofakingtodd ago
Cite and source assholes?
marcrapp ago
y
rail606 ago
I think we should have a rule if its already been posted unless you have a more compiled version or add information the post should be removed.
Maybe we could start a Pizzagate Meme/advertising subverse for spreading the word in the real world. That or maybe even a sub for specifically new information. Leave pizzagate a little bit more open but have links to the Newinfo subverse.
TimeForPitchForks ago
we need the facts all in one place, in order.. and like you said, a breaking news and meme/advt section just to help get others up to speed on the subject!
Lopsid ago
Great idea, I think the first piece should be: https://dcpizzagate.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/pizzaemail.jpg?w=840
senpaithatignoresyou ago
Like an info dump?
UglyTruth ago
Like Wikipedia, but without the cognitive infiltration program. infogalactic.com is trying to do this, but access is way slow.
senpaithatignoresyou ago
yeah, infogalitic is pretty good, they have better details than wikipedia. they are absurdly slow though
justforthissubverse ago
This is why we need a type of wiki. A running sticky at the top that gets modified all the time. If info is in there people can see it and not repost. Reposting was terrible in the Reddit threads. It was a mess. You'd have people posting all caps. LOOK SMOKING GUN! About stuff that was weeks old...
smoothassilk ago
100% this. way too many nutty people around here now. i dont even blame em. this scandal attracts the mentally ill from all corners of the conspiracy universe. this sub should be moderated and all unrelated threads should be deleted.
exclusivemuffin ago
How do you differentiate the nutty people versus the reasonable ones? Can you give me an example of what a "nut" would say? I made an account just to find out what signs to look out for.
Millennial_Falcon ago
They make sensational, crazy-sounding claims without any real evidence to support them (e.g.Lizard People), and they submit extremely tenuous non-leads and other things that have no apparent connection to Pizzagate. Basically these types fall into two categories: (1) shills trying to distract us and make us look crazy and (2) borderline schizos/useful idiots.
exclusivemuffin ago
am i a useful idiot/schizo because I believe in #pizzagate but did literally nothing to prove it, just saw the research.
Millennial_Falcon ago
No, because there is a massive amount of evidence for pizzagate, which is the whole point of this sub.
smoothassilk ago
for example saying that the holocaust did not happen. that would be nuts.
Seexybeast6969 ago
And theyre making us look crazy to the casuals
pizzamate ago
The perps are, relative to the average person, complently broken mentally and criminally and clinically insane given that THEY RAPE AND KILL CHILDREN TO STEAL THEIR ENERGY AND CONTROL THEM.
Now you tell fucking me - How the fuck do you explain HOW the minds of these occultist sick fucks think without MAKING ONE SOUND LIKE A "WHACKJOB CONSPIRACY THEORIST" in your terms?
It's logically impossible and to me smacks of wanting to suppress the beliefs and secrets of the two flies in the ointment, Jews and Freemasons, that motivate their abominable behaviour -** Like a shill protecting their own**
kingkongwaswrong ago
I've been trying to do that, hope it's helped
SpectraDatum ago
My suggestion would be to sidebar something that listed known crimes and the people who committed them. In conjunction with a list of places to report those crimes, investigators can create a paper trail and awareness in law enforcement. If you make a report, you can also send it to the press and, with enough interest, they will follow up.
Also sidebarred should be a link to a thread with the most solid infographics linked, so that people can be encouraged to share them on social media. #pizzagate is great and catchy. #hillaryforprison and other hash tags should be listed. There needs to be a steady, concerted effort to generate awareness and interest.
Ultimately, a centralized database is what is needed on map out connections. Getting people to participate is like herding cats, though.
I would sticky something similar to, but more comprehensive than, the chan threads' OP for Comet Ping Pong or Eyes Wide Shut. You should also be linking to other investigating groups to create cooperation and redundancy. Also, clintonfoundationinvestigation.com appears to be pretty solid. It would be nice one get a hold of their Google docs that got nixed by google.
Food for thought.
kingkongwaswrong ago
Hey if you can pull together links for any of the stuff you mentioned that would be super helpful, then I can put it somewhere in either the sticky or sidebar.
SpectraDatum ago
This evening I'll throw something together for you.
kingkongwaswrong ago
youre right and this is hard work. Give me some time
SpectraDatum ago
Keep up the good work. Don't let the shills get you down. They attempt to manufacture anxiety and anger, so just remember those feelings are fake and keep your zen.
kingkongwaswrong ago
<3 youre the best thanks man
HarveyKlinger ago
Instead of deleted, can they be moved to a more appropriate area?
kingkongwaswrong ago
when they get 'deleted' they dont actually get deleted, they are just no longer shown on the hot, new, top views of the sub. if you go to the modlogs you can still comment and talk in the thread. Theres no 'move' option to my knowledge.
HarveyKlinger ago
Ahhhhhhhh.... gotcha. Please forgive me. I'm new here (but trying).
6double5321 ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/bannedusers
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/deletedcomments
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/modlog/deleted
For those interested.
kingkongwaswrong ago
me too mang