Chill on the "threats" Voat (Voat)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

There has been an increasing number of content that is bordering or crossing the lines concerning making "threats." So much so that we have been formally contacted regarding some content. We are better than this.

I'm not a lawyer, and you're not a lawyer, and it isn't Voat's place to defend illegal content. We don't have a staff to review content and don't have a team of lawyers dedicated to deciding what is and isn't lawful. I'm not also into endlessly debating what is and isn't legal as subjects like this often devolve into when everyone at the party is an "internet expert."

We have to deal with this issue and if content is in the grey area, we are going to remove it upon request. We also have to cooperate with law enforcement, I hope everyone fully understands that we are not attempting to operate outside of the law. Voat's purpose is to provide a collusion and censorship free place for discussion, not taking on a government.

It's easy to avoid this entire area: Word content maturely, avoid implicit and explicit language concerning the involvement of violence and the content won't be in question. Simple, so very simple.

After this post there will most likely be "users" testing this line and hoping we remove their content in order to claim censorship on Voat. This is just how things like this work. Don't fall for this Voat. It would be simply incredible if we just worked together on this instead of the typical shit storm posts like this usually generate.

As a reminder: Voat is for your personal, lawful use. See it here: https://voat.co/help/useragreement

That's all. Thanks for reading. Carry on.

Edit:

ProTip: I decided to post this before anything legal would prevent me from doing so. I have a feeling I know where this is going to lead.

I've also updated the canary to reflect this as well (this may be the last time that little guy gets an update, we will just have to wait and see).

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NotHereForPizza ago

Can we finally get to the bottom of who ever it was that threatened @srayzie so they can finally quit trying to fucking frame me so that no one listens to what I say?

Also, are we going to get you, Putt, to condemn people like @TexasVet, @tendiesonfloor, etc. Who are promoting violence nearly daily? We all know FEDs post here regularly, whether it be blaming X group for Y problem, promoting violence like mentioned before, or LARPing as Nazis so people won't take Voat seriously, but good fuck this is happening more and more and there's no way you're naive enough to let someone convince you these problems won't both persist and amplify.

I know I haven't always been very upfront with you, Putt, and especially plenty of the user base here, but if anyone thinks I'm someone other than just a normal guy who's unendingly concerned with free speech and the expansion of Truth, you've let some idiot here convince you that I'm something that I'm certainly not. Sure, some of us here disagree about some things (which is entirely healthy you morans), but that doesn't mean I'm a shill or some disinfo agent. Obviously I'm not always honest, but I think if we're going to put me and others like I've mentioned on a scale, I think being dishonest to protect myself or market information or some other variant comes out pretty low on the scale of probability to cause future issues, especially if we compare what I've done to promoting violence, trying to set narratives (what's the point of doing that in an echo chamber anyway?), or LARPing as things that disgust your average user of these kinds of sites entirely on purpose, whether it be to prevent honest perspectives from forming about this place or to specifically establish the user base here as extreme so when someone inevitably frames someone on this site and thereby the site (or owner(s)) itself they'll be easily condemned so that freedoms can be encroached upon.

I'm tired of seeing you let all of these things go unnoticed, Putt. I obviously appreciate your giving us this platform to use, but you avoiding or ignoring these things, if it hasn't already, ought to make your user base extremely paranoid. There's no way you don't know plenty of shills and FEDs occupy this place and while my position here is meaningless and therefore my demands have and likely will go unnoticed, I can't stay silent about this shit much longer and especially in a public way with you.

srayzie ago

Do you ever shut the fuck up? When you run your own free speech forum, then you can talk. You don’t even moderate a subverse but think you’re so smart. @Puttitout does a great job and all you do is complain. You ping him over stupid shit as if he has nothing else to do. You are a proven shill who should just fade away like some of your alts.

NotHereForPizza ago

Stop trying to frame me, retard...

Do you really think everyone here is stupid enough to fall for your shit?

srayzie ago

I’ve been leaving you alone. You’re the one that pinged me faggot.

NotHereForPizza ago

But why don't you want to get to the bottom of who threatened you? Wasn't it a serious threat? Shouldn't you take threats to yourself seriously?

@PuttItOut I hope you see this shit. If they haven't gotten to you yet, look at this and don't just keep ignoring me. If they have gotten to you then fuck you I'm going to keep annoying you.

srayzie ago

I’ve already told you a couple of times that I made @Puttitout aware. After I made this post all threats stopped immediately. The fact that you keep bringing it up is that you’re a trouble maker.

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WAS THREATENING ME. Your alt @thisistotallynotme disappeared when I made that post too. You are making you yourself look more and more guilty by bringing it up so much.

@shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch

NotHereForPizza ago

But if I wasn't guilty, wouldn't I not want to talk about it?

Putt can easily see that none of the IPs I've ever used have been the same as any of the ones that made the threatening comments you've spoken of.

You seem upset that I'm adament about us getting to the bottom of the issue with you having been threatened.

Would it piss you off if I showed screecaps of that guy sending me messages about how I should learn how to properly defend myself in court? Did you know the guy threatened me?

I've played nice so far. Give up on framing me and shit, or I'll actually dedicate some time to separating myself publicly from the people you claim that I am by posting some info about private messages I've had with them and I can even go so far as to pull discussions from other websites that feature us very apparently discussing you and your friends, this website and I suppose a few more details.

Stop trying to fucking frame me.

@PuttItOut wake the fuck up.

srayzie ago

But if I wasn't guilty, wouldn't I not want to talk about it?

http://magaimg.net/img/7ttc.jpg

Putt can easily see that none of the IPs I've ever used have been the same as any of the ones that made the threatening comments you've spoken of.

2 computers can be connected to the same network and have different external IP addresses. But you already knew that because you’re a software engineer.

Stop trying to fucking frame me.

I left you alone a couple of weeks ago. You’re the one pinging me asshole.

NotHereForPizza ago

I'm a software engineer? Holy shit! What college did I graduate from? Did I get a bachelor's? Oh, or a masters?! Do I have a job?

But, retard, the way one could accomplish what you're talking about is simply using a VPN. Too bad for you that, again, I can prove I'm not the person you want me to be. All Putt or LE has to do is look at the messages between me and him... Do you think they're that stupid too?

If this really is you framing me, you know you can get in legal trouble for this, right?... You can't pretend to send violent threats to yourself and claim it was someone else legally.

srayzie ago

But, retard, the way one could accomplish what you're talking about is simply using a VPN.

So you’re admitting that you know how to do it. What a stupid bitch.

Putt or LE has to do is look at the messages between me and him...

Then send him a message. Why are you pinging me? None of it matters. The posts I made exposed you. You trying to earn a good reputation is going to back fire on you. Do you really want to play this game with me?

You can't pretend to send violent threats to yourself and claim it was someone else legally.

LOL. Are you trying to say that I tried doxing myself and threatened myself with rape while my son watched? I am the one that posted about @Shizy being raped? That’s the kind of manipulative shit that goes they your mind. Normal people don’t think like that.

This is the kind of person that you are. I posted this before...

I was blackmailed by user NotHereForPizza, who had earlier that day tried to dox a pizzagate mod. It wasn’t the first time. His username looked familiar. I remembered talking to him in the past when he was trying to dox the same person weeks before. Now, I was being told by this very same person that I was being tested. That they were moving here from Reddit. Depending on my cooperation, they may tell “the others” that we were compromised.

As the conversation went on, this person was posting on 8chan saying I was under questionable status. Telling them I was censoring because I removed his post where he tried doxing. I have proof that he made the story up. He even admits it. I will be providing evidence of all this soon.

You can read the private messages yourself.

Don’t fuck with me. I guarantee that you will lose....AGAIN

Shizy ago

This faggot retard again? Why is he bringing this shit up again all of a sudden?

@NotHereForPizza is a fucking loser!

NotHereForPizza ago

See?

srayzie ago

See what happens when you start this shit? Nobody likes you.

NotHereForPizza ago

This is consensus cracking. Your gaslighting is ineffective and lazy.

By the way, I didn't start this shit, you did. I simply want to grt to the bottom of who ever it is that's threatening you so you'll leave me the fuck alone. Have you told Putt the threats came from that guy, or are you just trying to shut me up by pretending that I threatened you? That's the only way we can explain you getting worked up once I ping Putt so he'll help you with this very serious problem. And, no, I'm not being sarcastic. You and your family being threatened is serious and it should be dealt with seriously.

srayzie ago

I didn’t even bring your NotHereForPizza username up. I brought up the username that was trying to dox me. You don’t give a fuck about me or my family. You aren’t kidding anyone.

NotHereForPizza ago

I have one single account here at Voat. One. Not more than one, only one.

I think you should take the threat seriously. It's your family we're talking about here. You'd do anything to protect your family, right? So would I.

Now if we're going to keep chatting, let's talk about why you don't want your being threatened brought up with the site owner, who would be the only person that could be sure of exactly which IPs have accessed which accounts. Or... do you not want to talk about that for some reason?

srayzie ago

Boy. I sure am living in your head rent free. What was discussed about the threats is not something that I’m going to talk about with the one that threatened me.

NotHereForPizza ago

You know things don't become true just because you continue to repeat them, right?

Vindicator ago

You really should stop talking. You've dug yourself a veritable pit just in this thread alone.

Which I just saved for posterity.

srayzie ago

Can you explain to me how this faggot @NotHereForPizza can be so against Reddit mods and say he doesn’t use Reddit but then writes me all this?

I just don’t get it. He makes no sense. He was “helping” the Reddit mods that were COMPROMISED migrate here.

@shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch

Vindicator ago

It's simple: he thinks this is the way goats talk, so he parrots the lines. In reality, goats only care about "Reddit mods" when they've seen a Voat mod actually acting like one, or if there a massive Reddit migration underway. The rest of the time, no one gives a crap or even thinks about it. We're too busy enjoying our liberty.

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