Chill on the "threats" Voat (Voat)

submitted ago by PuttItOut

There has been an increasing number of content that is bordering or crossing the lines concerning making "threats." So much so that we have been formally contacted regarding some content. We are better than this.

I'm not a lawyer, and you're not a lawyer, and it isn't Voat's place to defend illegal content. We don't have a staff to review content and don't have a team of lawyers dedicated to deciding what is and isn't lawful. I'm not also into endlessly debating what is and isn't legal as subjects like this often devolve into when everyone at the party is an "internet expert."

We have to deal with this issue and if content is in the grey area, we are going to remove it upon request. We also have to cooperate with law enforcement, I hope everyone fully understands that we are not attempting to operate outside of the law. Voat's purpose is to provide a collusion and censorship free place for discussion, not taking on a government.

It's easy to avoid this entire area: Word content maturely, avoid implicit and explicit language concerning the involvement of violence and the content won't be in question. Simple, so very simple.

After this post there will most likely be "users" testing this line and hoping we remove their content in order to claim censorship on Voat. This is just how things like this work. Don't fall for this Voat. It would be simply incredible if we just worked together on this instead of the typical shit storm posts like this usually generate.

As a reminder: Voat is for your personal, lawful use. See it here: https://voat.co/help/useragreement

That's all. Thanks for reading. Carry on.

Edit:

ProTip: I decided to post this before anything legal would prevent me from doing so. I have a feeling I know where this is going to lead.

I've also updated the canary to reflect this as well (this may be the last time that little guy gets an update, we will just have to wait and see).

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NotHereForPizza ago

Can we finally get to the bottom of who ever it was that threatened @srayzie so they can finally quit trying to fucking frame me so that no one listens to what I say?

Also, are we going to get you, Putt, to condemn people like @TexasVet, @tendiesonfloor, etc. Who are promoting violence nearly daily? We all know FEDs post here regularly, whether it be blaming X group for Y problem, promoting violence like mentioned before, or LARPing as Nazis so people won't take Voat seriously, but good fuck this is happening more and more and there's no way you're naive enough to let someone convince you these problems won't both persist and amplify.

I know I haven't always been very upfront with you, Putt, and especially plenty of the user base here, but if anyone thinks I'm someone other than just a normal guy who's unendingly concerned with free speech and the expansion of Truth, you've let some idiot here convince you that I'm something that I'm certainly not. Sure, some of us here disagree about some things (which is entirely healthy you morans), but that doesn't mean I'm a shill or some disinfo agent. Obviously I'm not always honest, but I think if we're going to put me and others like I've mentioned on a scale, I think being dishonest to protect myself or market information or some other variant comes out pretty low on the scale of probability to cause future issues, especially if we compare what I've done to promoting violence, trying to set narratives (what's the point of doing that in an echo chamber anyway?), or LARPing as things that disgust your average user of these kinds of sites entirely on purpose, whether it be to prevent honest perspectives from forming about this place or to specifically establish the user base here as extreme so when someone inevitably frames someone on this site and thereby the site (or owner(s)) itself they'll be easily condemned so that freedoms can be encroached upon.

I'm tired of seeing you let all of these things go unnoticed, Putt. I obviously appreciate your giving us this platform to use, but you avoiding or ignoring these things, if it hasn't already, ought to make your user base extremely paranoid. There's no way you don't know plenty of shills and FEDs occupy this place and while my position here is meaningless and therefore my demands have and likely will go unnoticed, I can't stay silent about this shit much longer and especially in a public way with you.

SandHog ago

I've lied about all kinds of shit but this time you really have to believe me!

You know what, fuck you. I'm tired of seeing your bitchy ass whine. That's all you seem to do. You're the biggest fucking jew I've seen on here and that's saying a lot. This post is a sterling example of that. You are admitting to being a lying, duplicitous faggot and yet you somehow think people are going to believe anything you have to say. Seems to me you brought all of this upon yourself. Are you really this fucking stupid? I find that hard to believe.

There's no way you don't know plenty of shills and FEDs occupy this place and while my position here is meaningless and therefore my demands have and likely will go unnoticed, I can't stay silent about this shit much longer and especially in a public way with you.

If your position here is as meaningless as you allege then just go the fuck away. Noone cares about you and your mental disorders. Alternatively, go public with whatever dumb bullshit you claim you can expose. I don't give a shit and I don't think anyone else gives a shit either. I'm just sick and fucking tired of listening to you bitch you dumb nigger.

NotHereForPizza ago

You seem to have an alterior motive.

I don't think you understand what I'm admitting to "lying" about. I sometimes don't tell the truth or my words aren't genuine, yes. This is done for many reasons, primarily so that it's harder to pin your vernacular arsenal down, harder to establish patterns (which can also be used in an alternative way, too), and harder to find out what sections of what someone says are true or not.

I understand this isn't something you can fully grasp with ease. But, some of us are rather... seasoned, we'll say.

What I meant, to be a little more specific, is that I've been both outwardly helpful and antagonizing of Putt. I don't have to explain my reasons to you, but I've surmised that since Putt hasn't responded to me in a while that he either assumes I'm insincere or trying to take advantage of him. I'm letting him know that that first part is true - I'm not sincere, at least not all of the time. If you can't accept this, that's not a problem for me. I didn't come here for the people that don't want to listen to what I say, I came here for the curious ones or the ones that I can assist in developing curiosity in.

If all you see in my posts is me whining, you're certainly glimpsing at the surface of what I'm saying. Just go a step or two further. Who am I responding to? What have they recently said to me? Do they have any particular public affiliations? What types of things do they regularly discuss? I'm sure someone that cares and doesn't make silly and hurried judgements, like yourself, would understand if they looked a little deeper.

Also, for the record, I've been notified that I'm not the only person that this has happened to.

Your cute gaslighting is not effective, by the way.

srayzie ago

Putt hasn't responded to me in a while that he either assumes I'm insincere or trying to take advantage of him.

That’s why you’re bugged so much! Putt hadn’t responded to you and you blame me because I exposed you! 😂 Are your fee fees hurt?

NotHereForPizza ago

You spin like spiders.

srayzie ago

See parent @Sandhog

SandHog ago

What I meant, to be a little more specific, is that I've been both outwardly helpful and antagonizing of Putt. I don't have to explain my reasons to you, but I've surmised that since Putt hasn't responded to me in a while that he either assumes I'm insincere or trying to take advantage of him. I'm letting him know that that first part is true - I'm not sincere, at least not all of the time.

My case in point.

Your cute gaslighting is not effective, by the way.

That's rich. I'm just calling it like I see it and if you have an issue with that you can shove it up your ass or do a million other things with it. I don't care. You already admitted to being a lying faggot so nothing you say really matters to me at all.

NotHereForPizza ago

Have you ever lied to make someone feel better, or do words only have one meaning, misunderstandings are irredeemable and the world shallow and rigid?

I'm extremely confident that if people take the time to pay attention they'll come to understand what I've done and I'm also very certain that they won't decide that I'm some lying asshole like you try to paint me as.

People that are smarter than you have to be dishonest at times so that being able to conduct your their will is easier. You can get upset about it or you can accept that people out there are more competent than you are like a big boy.

I don't care how you feel about it. Stop wasting my time whining like a pubescent child.

srayzie ago

You aren’t clever you narcissistic prick. The only one you impress is yourself.

srayzie ago

@Sandhog

SandHog ago

There's just no convincing a morlock that they are a morlock. When you present evidence of such they simply retreat underground and plot their revenge instead of doing any self-reflection. If they weren't so fucking annoying I wouldn't even think about them at all.

SandHog ago

Have you ever lied to make someone feel better, or do words only have one meaning, misunderstandings are irredeemable and the world shallow and rigid?

Nope. Not since I was a child.

I'm extremely confident that if people take the time to pay attention they'll come to understand what I've done and I'm also very certain that they won't decide that I'm some lying asshole like you try to paint me as.

You admitted as such. Yet I have not seen one time you've ever presented any evidence that supports your position.

People that are smarter than you have to be dishonest at times so that being able to conduct your their will is easier. You can get upset about it or you can accept that people out there are more competent than you are like a big boy.

Lol. You don't know a fucking thing about me.

I don't care how you feel about it. Stop wasting my time whining like a pubescent child.

Says the faggot that never presents any evidence of anything but continues to act like the victim. I've seen the evidence against you. It comes up often enough. How about you provide some evidence that backs up what you re saying? All you do is cry to Putt and he ignores you. If the injustice was so great as you make it out to be there ought to be some evidence that supports your claims. So how about it? If you've been so wrongfully accused it should be simple enough to discredit.

srayzie ago

He’s bored with no life. What a fucking loser. I can’t imagine living my life like he does.

srayzie ago

Do you ever shut the fuck up? When you run your own free speech forum, then you can talk. You don’t even moderate a subverse but think you’re so smart. @Puttitout does a great job and all you do is complain. You ping him over stupid shit as if he has nothing else to do. You are a proven shill who should just fade away like some of your alts.

fluhthreeex ago

Proven shill/troll/ZOG/intel account... lol, it's admitted as much. These clowns usually cycle accounts when they self-dox. Surprised SaneGoat hasn't gone poof as well.

srayzie ago

Heck yeah they cycle accounts!

NotHereForPizza ago

Stop trying to frame me, retard...

Do you really think everyone here is stupid enough to fall for your shit?

srayzie ago

I’ve been leaving you alone. You’re the one that pinged me faggot.

NotHereForPizza ago

But why don't you want to get to the bottom of who threatened you? Wasn't it a serious threat? Shouldn't you take threats to yourself seriously?

@PuttItOut I hope you see this shit. If they haven't gotten to you yet, look at this and don't just keep ignoring me. If they have gotten to you then fuck you I'm going to keep annoying you.

srayzie ago

I’ve already told you a couple of times that I made @Puttitout aware. After I made this post all threats stopped immediately. The fact that you keep bringing it up is that you’re a trouble maker.

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT WAS THREATENING ME. Your alt @thisistotallynotme disappeared when I made that post too. You are making you yourself look more and more guilty by bringing it up so much.

@shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch

NotHereForPizza ago

But if I wasn't guilty, wouldn't I not want to talk about it?

Putt can easily see that none of the IPs I've ever used have been the same as any of the ones that made the threatening comments you've spoken of.

You seem upset that I'm adament about us getting to the bottom of the issue with you having been threatened.

Would it piss you off if I showed screecaps of that guy sending me messages about how I should learn how to properly defend myself in court? Did you know the guy threatened me?

I've played nice so far. Give up on framing me and shit, or I'll actually dedicate some time to separating myself publicly from the people you claim that I am by posting some info about private messages I've had with them and I can even go so far as to pull discussions from other websites that feature us very apparently discussing you and your friends, this website and I suppose a few more details.

Stop trying to fucking frame me.

@PuttItOut wake the fuck up.

srayzie ago

But if I wasn't guilty, wouldn't I not want to talk about it?

http://magaimg.net/img/7ttc.jpg

Putt can easily see that none of the IPs I've ever used have been the same as any of the ones that made the threatening comments you've spoken of.

2 computers can be connected to the same network and have different external IP addresses. But you already knew that because you’re a software engineer.

Stop trying to fucking frame me.

I left you alone a couple of weeks ago. You’re the one pinging me asshole.

NotHereForPizza ago

I'm a software engineer? Holy shit! What college did I graduate from? Did I get a bachelor's? Oh, or a masters?! Do I have a job?

But, retard, the way one could accomplish what you're talking about is simply using a VPN. Too bad for you that, again, I can prove I'm not the person you want me to be. All Putt or LE has to do is look at the messages between me and him... Do you think they're that stupid too?

If this really is you framing me, you know you can get in legal trouble for this, right?... You can't pretend to send violent threats to yourself and claim it was someone else legally.

srayzie ago

But, retard, the way one could accomplish what you're talking about is simply using a VPN.

So you’re admitting that you know how to do it. What a stupid bitch.

Putt or LE has to do is look at the messages between me and him...

Then send him a message. Why are you pinging me? None of it matters. The posts I made exposed you. You trying to earn a good reputation is going to back fire on you. Do you really want to play this game with me?

You can't pretend to send violent threats to yourself and claim it was someone else legally.

LOL. Are you trying to say that I tried doxing myself and threatened myself with rape while my son watched? I am the one that posted about @Shizy being raped? That’s the kind of manipulative shit that goes they your mind. Normal people don’t think like that.

This is the kind of person that you are. I posted this before...

I was blackmailed by user NotHereForPizza, who had earlier that day tried to dox a pizzagate mod. It wasn’t the first time. His username looked familiar. I remembered talking to him in the past when he was trying to dox the same person weeks before. Now, I was being told by this very same person that I was being tested. That they were moving here from Reddit. Depending on my cooperation, they may tell “the others” that we were compromised.

As the conversation went on, this person was posting on 8chan saying I was under questionable status. Telling them I was censoring because I removed his post where he tried doxing. I have proof that he made the story up. He even admits it. I will be providing evidence of all this soon.

You can read the private messages yourself.

Don’t fuck with me. I guarantee that you will lose....AGAIN

Shizy ago

This faggot retard again? Why is he bringing this shit up again all of a sudden?

@NotHereForPizza is a fucking loser!

NotHereForPizza ago

See?

srayzie ago

See what happens when you start this shit? Nobody likes you.

NotHereForPizza ago

This is consensus cracking. Your gaslighting is ineffective and lazy.

By the way, I didn't start this shit, you did. I simply want to grt to the bottom of who ever it is that's threatening you so you'll leave me the fuck alone. Have you told Putt the threats came from that guy, or are you just trying to shut me up by pretending that I threatened you? That's the only way we can explain you getting worked up once I ping Putt so he'll help you with this very serious problem. And, no, I'm not being sarcastic. You and your family being threatened is serious and it should be dealt with seriously.

srayzie ago

I didn’t even bring your NotHereForPizza username up. I brought up the username that was trying to dox me. You don’t give a fuck about me or my family. You aren’t kidding anyone.

NotHereForPizza ago

I have one single account here at Voat. One. Not more than one, only one.

I think you should take the threat seriously. It's your family we're talking about here. You'd do anything to protect your family, right? So would I.

Now if we're going to keep chatting, let's talk about why you don't want your being threatened brought up with the site owner, who would be the only person that could be sure of exactly which IPs have accessed which accounts. Or... do you not want to talk about that for some reason?

srayzie ago

Q just posted. BYE

srayzie ago

Boy. I sure am living in your head rent free. What was discussed about the threats is not something that I’m going to talk about with the one that threatened me.

NotHereForPizza ago

You know things don't become true just because you continue to repeat them, right?

Vindicator ago

You really should stop talking. You've dug yourself a veritable pit just in this thread alone.

Which I just saved for posterity.

srayzie ago

Can you explain to me how this faggot @NotHereForPizza can be so against Reddit mods and say he doesn’t use Reddit but then writes me all this?

I just don’t get it. He makes no sense. He was “helping” the Reddit mods that were COMPROMISED migrate here.

@shizy @MolochHunter @Kevdude @Crensch

Vindicator ago

It's simple: he thinks this is the way goats talk, so he parrots the lines. In reality, goats only care about "Reddit mods" when they've seen a Voat mod actually acting like one, or if there a massive Reddit migration underway. The rest of the time, no one gives a crap or even thinks about it. We're too busy enjoying our liberty.

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NotHereForPizza ago

Reddit mods don't scare me, you stupid faggot.

Fuck off back to SRS

Vindicator ago

They obviously do, or you wouldn't exude so much hot air about them. :-)

NotHereForPizza ago

It's funny you say that while your dumbass finds claim that I'm the Reddit mod... despite being a Reddit mod yourself.

How stupid do you think we all are?

Vindicator ago

My "dumbass finds"? Lol. You're getting flustered.

I've never been a mod on Reddit. I lurked during the Podesta email drops but made my account here on Voat after the migration.

You must be pretty stupid, to make claims with no evidence whatsoever. This is Voat. That don't fly in these parts.

srayzie ago

You sure looked out for Reddit mods here, instead of a Goat I might add...

You’re obsessed with Reddit.

srayzie ago

@Vindicator

Vindicator ago

LOL. He sounds just like WoS. So arrogant, he thinks you are retarded, silly-ass attempts to intimidate, trying to "frame" @Crensch just like WoS tried to "frame" me, claims our subverses are "infiltrated" or "compromised." Inept. Deceitful, disrespectful tactics glowin' hard. Obviously not a person of good will.

Hilarious! Thanks for the laugh :-)

NotHereForPizza ago

So you’re admitting that you know how to do it. What a stupid bitch.

How to samefag? Welcome to the internet...

Then send him a message. Why are you pinging me? None of it matters. The posts I made exposed you. You trying to earn a good reputation is going to back fire on you. Do you really want to play this game with me?

You didn't expose anything beyond your lack of competence.

LOL. Are you trying to say that I tried doxing myself and threatened myself with rape while my son watched? I am the one that posted about @Shizy being raped? That’s the kind of manipulative shit that goes they your mind. Normal people don’t think like that.

This is the kind of person that you are. I posted this before...

I can't imagine any sane or honest person would ever concoct anything like this... Not only did I very obviously do none of those things, you not letting this go seems more and more obvious that it's bullshit, especially since you don't want to bring it up with Putt.

A person who had been threatened like that should really want to get to the bottom of things.

Also, if I wasn't revealing Crensch, wasn't the stuff I posted about "him" no different than what SBBH does every day with their posts "doxxing" each other? Why would you get upset, let alone retaliate and ban me from things, if I wasn't right in what I said about him? This begs the question - why would it matter Crensch was a reddit mod, anyway, and how is revealing his reddit account doxxing him?

On the contrary, lady, I've lost exactly nothing during my stay here.

I thought you guys upset when people didn't ping you. Are you upset because you want me to stop talking about you trying to frame me? Does my bringing it up upset you because you know my having anything to do with it isn't true? Is that why you get bothered when I bring Putt in to this?

srayzie ago

Not only did I very obviously do none of those things, you not letting this go seems more and more obvious that it's bullshit.

I haven’t even talked about you for weeks. You’re just stirring shit up.

...especially since you don't want to bring it up with Putt.

I DID inform Putt. How much clearer can I make that for you?

A person who had been threatened like that should really want to get to the bottom of things.

I did. I exposed you and your group and it stopped. Case closed.

Also, if I wasn't revealing Crensch, wasn't the stuff I posted about "him" no different than what SBBH does every day with their posts "doxxing" each other?

Since you’re a pussy, I’ll ping @Crensch for you. It’s rude to talk shit about someone and not ping them.

I’ve only seen SBBH PLAY DOX each other.

Why would you get upset, let alone retaliate and ban me from things, if I wasn't right in what I said about him?

Doxing is against the rules. Duh! You were posting about his personal life. Posting what you claim to be his pets.

This begs the question - why would it matter Crensch was a reddit mod, anyway, and how is revealing his reddit account doxxing him?

I’ve looked into it and know for a fact that he’s not Creq or whatever that crackheads name is. Besides, many people here came from Reddit including you. I don’t care! I just have a problem with corrupt Reddit mods.

On the contrary, lady, I've lost exactly nothing during my stay here.

Yes you have. That’s why you continue to post this shit.

Are you upset because you want me to stop talking about you trying to frame me? Does my bringing it up upset you because you know my having anything to do with it isn't true?

We are running an awesome sub trying to further the Q movement, which is a lot of responsibility. On top of that, I’m making posts everyday exposing corruption.

You bringing it up over and over is just old. It’s a distraction. You’re a deceitful person who must live a miserable life. But, I will take the time to defend myself every time you start shit with me or try to deny it. I have plenty of links exposing you.

Is that why you get bothered when I bring Putt in to this?

What bothers me is that I have informed him, the threats have stopped, yet you continue to ping the owner of the site who must get TONS of pings a day. That’s got to be overwhelming.

You are inconsiderate. You don’t know what responsibility is. People are annoyed by this petty shit. There are more important things going on in the world to focus on. Do what you gotta do. I will never back down from you as long as you continue to harass me.

MolochHunter ago

lol Srayz, you totally murdered the fag

Hey @NotHereForPizza , are you FactQueer or something ?

srayzie ago

I guess he’ll never learn lol.

NotHereForPizza ago

None of you idiots know anything about me... I'm smarter and more persistent than all of you.

None of your shit is effective.

srayzie ago

You must be the only one that has ever said that 😂

@Vindicator @Shizy @MolochHunter @Crensch @Kevdude

Vindicator ago

Dude needs to look in the mirror and read that out loud:

"I'm smarter and more persistent than all of you"

If ya gotta say it, it probably ain't true. LMAO

MolochHunter ago

see, thats yet another example of you being FactQueer

Shizy ago

Also, if I wasn't revealing Crensch, wasn't the stuff I posted about "him" no different than what SBBH does every day with their posts "doxxing" each other?

Oh shit you really are retarded! Those "doxxing" posts on SBBH are completely made up and ridiculous so that people can just troll each other for fun! You understand what jokes and fun are don't you? Or maybe you are an autistic fuck!

And @srayzie, @crensch notice how this dumbfuck used "him" when referring to crensch? Wasn't some other loser trying to spread around that crensch was a female instragram model? Hmmmmm

srayzie ago

I think they said tranny 😂

Crensch ago

Kek.

Also, he asks that question and doesn't understand that someone is getting accused of being me with that info. That instaslut would have to deal with the fallout of being a NAZI. Same with the faggot plebbitor.

That's not all fun and games like the SBBH folks fart around with. SOMEbody is getting linked to this username, and the consequences for that could be rather dire.

Crensch ago

Why does he keep responding here? Does he think we're just going to forget all the shady shit he's said and done?

I'll try to put something together tonight. Might just ES storybook him.

srayzie ago

Good! The stupid JEW won’t learn.