IIRC, he took sides with the RIPJem guy (please correct me if I'm wrong, @jangles, might not remember this correctly), but later said @srayzie's stance had some merit.
With Regards to Jenny Moore, her inability to differentiate BS from well presented information lead her to make bold claims without any merit. This was used to discredit her in anyway possible as she use to work as a police officer in CA and was involved in whistle-blowing against her supervisors. Fucking absurd mods attack her as they did, no the bad information she was re posting.
It is fucking absurd how the mods attacked her as they did
I signed up one month before Jem777 was banned. But I read most of her stuff since I was a longtime lurker before.
She always mixed valid info with info that wasn't accurate imo.
I am not sure to which mods you are referring to, @jangles. I am not aware how MF interacted with her. But I do know that @Vindicator really tried to help her with her posts, since she really posted stuff that wouldn't adhere to the rules.
During the recent discussion about Jem777, I looked at the old threads, and saw what @Vindicator did to help her.
I'm afraid she was rightly banned. It was highly unfair to attack @Vindicator for having banned her the way some users did one or two months ago. (Not implying you did, I don't remember your comments in these threads.)
Whatever else you might think about her, she clearly provoked getting banned. And she even came back with an alt. She could have continued using this alt, but she choose not to.
A real whistle blower. Contributor to v/pizzagate . Dead in her DE hotel while investigating Bill Clinton. All are FACTS.
@Jem777@mej777 was mislead and made bad claims and reposed bad info sometimes. I do appreciate the assistance from @vindicator . There have been great mods here before @crensch
@Jem777@mej777 was mislead and made bad claims and reposed bad info sometimes.
Jangles, I don't necessarily disagree with you about Jem. She was either a deliberate party to a psyop, or a well-manipulated tool. It's very hard to tell which.
But that is exactly why this thread, and the research @Crensch, @think-, @Eric_Kaliberhall and I have done into Esoteric since the report of her death is so important. If you look back into old threads, you will see Esoteric and his alts seriously gaslighting Jem. He is all over her threads. God only knows what he was saying to her in private. He has groomed multiple users privately (including me and think-).
Coincidentally, here he claims to have been tortured with direct energy weapons. And here he claims to have been sodomized as a kid. But here, he viciously attacks another user and then two months later tries to use my response as evidence I'm a bad mod -- using deceitful tactics and quoting me out of context. He also posted fake Q and attempted to blame srayzie for it.
This thread clearly shows he uses sock puppets to manufacture consensus and upvote himself and his alts.
Does all that sound like the behavior of someone of good will who is here because he wants to stop elite child rapists? Or someone who is here to manipulate people like Jem, Gothamgirl and others?
Weigh the evidence. Don't leap to the conclusion that Crensch is wrong or has ill intent because he uses bad language.
Thank you for chiming in. She likely victim and easily-manipulated tool due to manic approach to her situation. I appreciate your insight into Esoteric and believe that there is a direct relationship to the interests here in gaslighting and Jenny's efforts to bring down Andrew McCabe an Bill Clinton.
WE REALLY need to WATCH for these things. I do believe @Crensch has good intentions here and helps a lot, I am beginning to understand what has been going on with regards to this matter.
A well meaning goat, @jem777 , is dead. It is suspect and I am trying to help understand why my friend is dead. Essoteric is no friend of mine and I didn't realize how much gaslighting and subversive shit they have been up to. Crensch's approach to this is demeaning and does not highlight the gas-lighting and manipulations, really just the alts and brigades.
@ESOTERICshade - Defend your position or lose whatever respect you may have remaining from any of the goats here.
Yes, it does. You made 8 submissions in the last 8 months.
In one of your first posts, you cautioned us not to talk about SRA, although you later claimed you are a SRA survivor - well, that's just part of your 'story'.
'I also suggest reserachers stay away from terminology such as "Satanic Ritual Abuse", and "Ritual Abuse", and "Conspiracy" because it does not fit the normie perception of reality.'
'I also suggest that people stop harping on Jews, Rothschilds, Satanism, and these nebulous monolithic entities that we know exists but does not exist for the normies'
Now the Rothschilds and Satanism are essential for our research. Why would someone want to suppress talking about them? Oh, wait a minute..... /s
I never came across a SRA survivor here that demanded that people should stop speaking about SRA and satanism. Never. Quite to the contrary: They can't wait to get the story out that there is ritual abuse, and satanic ritual abuse, and would like to spread the word about it.
Also, you said in the same post that Pizzagaters shouldn't invest companies that used suspicious symbols like spirals, or had suspicious Instagrams.
'I think the Pizzagate community, while well meaning, is making a mistake by hanging on the flashy bells and whistles of Pizzagate such as Instagram accounts with crazy pictures, pointing out every business they find with swirls and triangles in their logos, jewelry and trinkets associated with these networks, etc...'
We would have never had looked into Alefantis' CCP or Voodoo Doughnut if we had followed your advice.
And would have never looked into Rachel Chandler's model agency, incidentally the most shillish time on v/pizzagate ever. Shills seemed desperate to bury the topic at the time.
TL;DR: If I were you, I would be embarassed to refer to your submission history.
Shame on you for what you did, EsotericShade. Shame on you.
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think- ago
I don't think @jangles is an Esoteric alt, @kevdude.
IIRC, he took sides with the RIPJem guy (please correct me if I'm wrong, @jangles, might not remember this correctly), but later said @srayzie's stance had some merit.
@Crensch @Vindicator
jangles ago
With Regards to Jenny Moore, her inability to differentiate BS from well presented information lead her to make bold claims without any merit. This was used to discredit her in anyway possible as she use to work as a police officer in CA and was involved in whistle-blowing against her supervisors. Fucking absurd mods attack her as they did, no the bad information she was re posting.
think- ago
I signed up one month before Jem777 was banned. But I read most of her stuff since I was a longtime lurker before.
She always mixed valid info with info that wasn't accurate imo.
I am not sure to which mods you are referring to, @jangles. I am not aware how MF interacted with her. But I do know that @Vindicator really tried to help her with her posts, since she really posted stuff that wouldn't adhere to the rules.
During the recent discussion about Jem777, I looked at the old threads, and saw what @Vindicator did to help her.
I'm afraid she was rightly banned. It was highly unfair to attack @Vindicator for having banned her the way some users did one or two months ago. (Not implying you did, I don't remember your comments in these threads.)
Whatever else you might think about her, she clearly provoked getting banned. And she even came back with an alt. She could have continued using this alt, but she choose not to.
@kevdude @Crensch @EricKaliberhall
jangles ago
A real whistle blower. Contributor to v/pizzagate . Dead in her DE hotel while investigating Bill Clinton. All are FACTS.
@Jem777 @mej777 was mislead and made bad claims and reposed bad info sometimes. I do appreciate the assistance from @vindicator . There have been great mods here before @crensch
Vindicator ago
Jangles, I don't necessarily disagree with you about Jem. She was either a deliberate party to a psyop, or a well-manipulated tool. It's very hard to tell which.
But that is exactly why this thread, and the research @Crensch, @think-, @Eric_Kaliberhall and I have done into Esoteric since the report of her death is so important. If you look back into old threads, you will see Esoteric and his alts seriously gaslighting Jem. He is all over her threads. God only knows what he was saying to her in private. He has groomed multiple users privately (including me and think-).
Coincidentally, here he claims to have been tortured with direct energy weapons. And here he claims to have been sodomized as a kid. But here, he viciously attacks another user and then two months later tries to use my response as evidence I'm a bad mod -- using deceitful tactics and quoting me out of context. He also posted fake Q and attempted to blame srayzie for it.
This thread clearly shows he uses sock puppets to manufacture consensus and upvote himself and his alts.
Does all that sound like the behavior of someone of good will who is here because he wants to stop elite child rapists? Or someone who is here to manipulate people like Jem, Gothamgirl and others?
Weigh the evidence. Don't leap to the conclusion that Crensch is wrong or has ill intent because he uses bad language.
@kevdude
jangles ago
Thank you for chiming in. She likely victim and easily-manipulated tool due to manic approach to her situation. I appreciate your insight into Esoteric and believe that there is a direct relationship to the interests here in gaslighting and Jenny's efforts to bring down Andrew McCabe an Bill Clinton.
WE REALLY need to WATCH for these things. I do believe @Crensch has good intentions here and helps a lot, I am beginning to understand what has been going on with regards to this matter.
A well meaning goat, @jem777 , is dead. It is suspect and I am trying to help understand why my friend is dead. Essoteric is no friend of mine and I didn't realize how much gaslighting and subversive shit they have been up to. Crensch's approach to this is demeaning and does not highlight the gas-lighting and manipulations, really just the alts and brigades.
@ESOTERICshade - Defend your position or lose whatever respect you may have remaining from any of the goats here.
ESOTERICshade ago
My submission history speaks for itself. I won't be pulled into crensh's caustic world. I'm not interested enough in crensch's world to do it.
think- ago
Yes, it does. You made 8 submissions in the last 8 months.
In one of your first posts, you cautioned us not to talk about SRA, although you later claimed you are a SRA survivor - well, that's just part of your 'story'.
Now the Rothschilds and Satanism are essential for our research. Why would someone want to suppress talking about them? Oh, wait a minute..... /s
I never came across a SRA survivor here that demanded that people should stop speaking about SRA and satanism. Never. Quite to the contrary: They can't wait to get the story out that there is ritual abuse, and satanic ritual abuse, and would like to spread the word about it.
Also, you said in the same post that Pizzagaters shouldn't invest companies that used suspicious symbols like spirals, or had suspicious Instagrams.
We would have never had looked into Alefantis' CCP or Voodoo Doughnut if we had followed your advice.
And would have never looked into Rachel Chandler's model agency, incidentally the most shillish time on v/pizzagate ever. Shills seemed desperate to bury the topic at the time.
TL;DR: If I were you, I would be embarassed to refer to your submission history.
Shame on you for what you did, EsotericShade. Shame on you.
@Vindicator @Crensch @EricKaliberhall @srayzie @kevdude.
ESOTERICshade ago
Yes it is a major part of the research. Normies glaze over when it is mentioned. Normies need to be approaced with a softer method.