"According to CNN, the office of U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara has subpoenaed the New York Democrat’s phone records. The FBI and New York Police Department are also reportedly investigating the charges.
A spokesman for the NYPD confirmed that Weiner was being investigated, but did not comment on the charges. The U.S. Attorney’s office declined to comment."
Preet Bharara / US Attorney - stated as the agency that issued the subpoena is .... drumroll please ...... FEDERAL
yes NYPD were investigating, as were special victims unit , probably triggered by the 22/9 Daily Post disclosure of the girl (victims) phone data
so unless the subpoena the HuffPo discusses is somehow different / separate to the warrant Honeybee posted , this HuffPo article appears to strengthen the argument that the Fed and the Feds only had Weiner's hardware - as reported in media on 30/9
I keep coming back to this and no-one has yet from any source given me an alternative independently verified piece of evidence - Eric Prince made a CLAIM and we all swallowed it. That claim has never been verified in the public directly by the NYPD
even Q has not corroborated the 'Insurance file' rumor, to my knowledge
You're aware we have State Laws and Federal Laws and two different levels of law enforcement, on the Federal Level we have US Attorney who work for the Department of Justice? and on the Local level we have District Attorneys? Are you with me? Because this becomes important.
We are not talking about "the Wiener Investigation." We are talking about two separate investigations the federal Weiner investigation (FBI, US attorney) and the local Weiner investigation (NYPD, Manhattan District Attorney.)
So how does what you show disprove the other claim: NYPD did NOT hand over Weiner's laptop to the FBI. What evidence do you have to disprove that?
We know from the new information from yesterday where and how the feds got the laptop. We also know that the federal investigation ended in charges and Weiner pleaded guilty in federal court to federal crimes.
My contention is that the stories that appeared in several locations that the NYPD got the laptop and then the FBI wrested the case away from the NYPD is false.
My contention has stood up for over and a year and the evidence from yesterday strengthens my argument.
So please don't use those original claims as evidence. Please provide evidence that actually supports those claims. Yesterday we got some real deal evidence about the actual details of the FBI taking possession of the laptop.
Any evidence you provide should be in harmony with the real deal evidence we got yesterday.
FBI 'seized' laptop in early October? From who, Granite Management? Where the devices were housed since Sept 23, 2016?
F.B.I. agents in New York seized Mr. Weiner’s laptop in early October. The investigation was just one of many in the New York office and was not treated with great urgency, officials said. Further slowing the investigation, the F.B.I. software used to catalog the computer files kept crashing.
Eventually, investigators realized that they had hundreds of thousands of emails, many of which belonged to Ms. Abedin and had been backed up to her husband’s computer.
Mr. Comey learned of the Clinton emails on the evening of Oct. 26 and gathered his team the next morning to discuss the development.
What, New York Times telling even more fake news in that April 2017 article? @Are_We_Sure time to take a deep dive into those Strozk Page emails, I'm surprised you didn't /s
March 1, 2018
https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-03-01%20RHJ%20to%20DAG%20(Weiner%20laptop).pdf Ron Johnson Letter to Rod
Rosenstein, inquiring about FBI actions involved in the discovery of communications between Hillary/Huma on Weiner laptop.
Yeah, I talked about all this over a year ago, when I looked into this.
When the story broke both NYPD and the US attorney opened investigations. But the US Attorney went further
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/23/nyregion/anthony-weiner-faces-new-scrutiny-after-report-about-girl-15.html
Sept. 22, 2016
Federal authorities in New York have issued a subpoena for records pertaining to allegations that Anthony D. Weiner exchanged sexually explicit messages with a 15-year-old girl, a person with knowledge of the matter said.
...
It was not clear which records investigators in the office of the United States attorney, Preet Bharara, would subpoena. The person was not authorized to discuss the matter and spoke on the condition of anonymity.
A spokesman for the New York Police Department said it was investigating Mr. Weiner but did not elaborate.
So both the NYPD and the FBI opened investigations, but only one issued a subpoena that day.
New York Times has wrong info, even as late as April 2017?
What information do you think is wrong?
FBI 'seized' laptop in early October?
Yes. The Feds executed the search and seizure on Oct 3.
From who, Granite Management? Where the devices were housed since Sept 23, 2016?
What's the warrant say? The warrant would have to say what the evidence to be seized is and where the location to be searched is.
Subject Device 3 is a laptop computer, believed to be a Dell, that was transferred from the Target Subject to the Security Firm on September 22, 2016 and is currently housed at the security firm's office.
They date the seizure of the laptop to the 26th, the day the warrants were issued and October 3 as the first day Comey learned Clinton emails were on the laptop. The 26th fits with the S/P texts on the 28th. So I think the 26th makes sense. It was the first day they could legally pickup the laptop.
I learned how the girl Weiner was sexting with found her way to the Daily Mail she reached out Sidney Leathers, remember her? And Leather's agent told the Daily Mail and cut a deal
“How can I at least make you some money?” she said she asked the teenager. “I basically said, ‘The only way you should do this is if they pay you.’ Certain outlets will pay you to talk, and I had made deals with a lot of them.” Leathers’ agent alerted dailymail.com, the online version of a British tabloid with which she’d previously done business. Both Leathers and the girl received a sizable fee; the teen’s father, an attorney, helped negotiate her payment.
....
The Daily Mail story raised the possibility of serious criminal charges for Weiner. If he had encouraged an underage female to take explicit photos or video of herself, he could be charged with producing child pornography, a felony that carries a minimum prison term of 15 years. FBI agents in New York immediately began investigating.
On Sept. 26, after federal prosecutors in New York obtained a search warrant, and the FBI collected Weiner’s iPhone, iPad and laptop. Agents began examining the computer — a silver, 15.6-inch 2015 Dell Inspiron 7000 — for any pictures, videos or other evidence involving Weiner’s teenage sexting partner. An agent sorting through the contents of the hard drive came across a jolting find: a State Department memo and some emails between Abedin and Hillary Clinton. The documents were not covered by the sex-crimes warrant, which meant that the FBI had no legal right to examine them.
The presidential election was five weeks away.
There's a lot of details here about who at the FBI knew what when. The overall story is that Comey screwed up big time by going public with his pronouncements because he gave himself a false choice and chose to ignore long stand Depart of Justice Guidelines. Rosenstein is particularly good on this false choice.
That happened to me like twice when responding to you. I hate that.
I think the truepundit/erik prince story is a deliberate political hoax. Either they are lying or were lied to. They were trying to make it look like a political coverup and muddying the waters right before the election. None of the consequences came true. Clinton was not indicted. All the others were not indicted and no one from NYPD has said boo about it. I also think that disproves the wild claims about stomach churning evidence.
I have seen no evidence at all the NYPD examined the laptop at all.
The only open question I have is the DOJ thanked the NYPD SVU. Why?
Was that just a way of keeping them happy because the Feds got the conviction and the locals easily could have? Or did they do material work? One way they could have helped is talking to the girl. That's their expertise.
Given that neither of the two lengthy dives into what happened with the laptop mention the NYPD at all, could it be NYPD SVU helped in other ways? This is the open question.
Why have you not followed thru on your assignment? Do you not get paid for answering questions? Since you make me put up with you all the time, can you at least take some time out to answer these simple questions.
Sooooooo stupid. Cuffs. The fantasy world you inhabit is amazing. I'm going to be in cuffs because you don't like my posts on a messageboard.
Blacksmith was not trying to get me to denounce pedophilia, he was insulting and rude because I pointed it out when he tried to use pizzagate as a weapon in simple partisan politics. He was then trying to use that tactic against me. Because he was caught.
think asked me the question in a way that was not rude and I answered.
Molon Labe. @youllrememberme - You are starting to sound like me. All of the hypothesis completely remove the White Hat variable from the analysis.
No one seems to realize that Prince has established, with the help of good elements from the USG, a secondary intelligence gathering network. Prine has the ability to wield national level assets with clandestine cover, without the red type of official channels.
Eric Prince (of Blackwater) and Rudy Giuliani (a beloved former New York City mayor), among several others, were immediately giving interviews on Fox about the generally-sinister nature of the findings, and interviews on conspiracy shows like (((InfoWars))) to hint at the particular details of "just how much shit they found on Weiner's computer, and just how MUCH of it tied back to the Clintons and the larger Swamp,BACK WHEN WEINER'S SCANDAL WAS FIRST BREAKING TO THE SURFACE BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!
Anyone claiming that the NYPD never gave the computer to the FBI (likely while under duress, due to the DoJ threatening to go after the whole department for the Eric Garner death if they didn't fall in line) either wasn't paying any attention back then or is trying to pass disinformation now.
Oh, one last thing: Erik Prince is the brother of Betsy DeVos, the woman who Trump picked for "Secretary of Education", and Giuliani is both a longtime friend of Trump and one of the lawyers currently working on Trump's legal team to prevent anyone from attacking the President through his past life as a private citizen. I guarantee that Trump knows about EVERYTHING on Weiner's server, and that we'll find out that the MAGA parts of the DoJ, FBI, and OIG have been working closely with the NYPD to study that computer and its contents.
They had it first for the sexting scandal, it was all over the place. I'm pretty sure they thought it was all scrubbed and this was an attack to discredit us. Nice try clowns.
Here is the Erik Prince interview, posted by Q, where he talks about NYPD seeing the laptop contents and subsequently getting pushback that shut them down.
Here is the timeline with all relevant info, I didn't even include Prince's statements. Why the sources are still anonymous, and in my eyes irrelevant to refuting the shill shit NYPD SVU was not involved even through Granite they could have been as explained below.
its because Weiner unknowingly to the system had "insurance" they didn't know and when it was found out it became hell on wheels they were led to sperging out...thye just thought oh well Weiner is sexting underage girls ago which he had done repeatedly and they looked the other way when they found this the system freaked the fuck out. Granite pulled all of it for safe keeping and counter blackmail I presume
MolochHunter ago
HuffPo says:
"According to CNN, the office of U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara has subpoenaed the New York Democrat’s phone records. The FBI and New York Police Department are also reportedly investigating the charges. A spokesman for the NYPD confirmed that Weiner was being investigated, but did not comment on the charges. The U.S. Attorney’s office declined to comment."
Preet Bharara / US Attorney - stated as the agency that issued the subpoena is .... drumroll please ...... FEDERAL
yes NYPD were investigating, as were special victims unit , probably triggered by the 22/9 Daily Post disclosure of the girl (victims) phone data
so unless the subpoena the HuffPo discusses is somehow different / separate to the warrant Honeybee posted , this HuffPo article appears to strengthen the argument that the Fed and the Feds only had Weiner's hardware - as reported in media on 30/9
I keep coming back to this and no-one has yet from any source given me an alternative independently verified piece of evidence - Eric Prince made a CLAIM and we all swallowed it. That claim has never been verified in the public directly by the NYPD
even Q has not corroborated the 'Insurance file' rumor, to my knowledge
Are_we_sure ago
You're funny.
You're aware we have State Laws and Federal Laws and two different levels of law enforcement, on the Federal Level we have US Attorney who work for the Department of Justice? and on the Local level we have District Attorneys? Are you with me? Because this becomes important.
We are not talking about "the Wiener Investigation." We are talking about two separate investigations the federal Weiner investigation (FBI, US attorney) and the local Weiner investigation (NYPD, Manhattan District Attorney.)
So how does what you show disprove the other claim: NYPD did NOT hand over Weiner's laptop to the FBI. What evidence do you have to disprove that?
We know from the new information from yesterday where and how the feds got the laptop. We also know that the federal investigation ended in charges and Weiner pleaded guilty in federal court to federal crimes.
Are_we_sure ago
The unsealing of the warrant is more evidence of what I said a year ago
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1747104
https://voat.co/v/pizzagate/1812845
My contention is that the stories that appeared in several locations that the NYPD got the laptop and then the FBI wrested the case away from the NYPD is false.
My contention has stood up for over and a year and the evidence from yesterday strengthens my argument.
So please don't use those original claims as evidence. Please provide evidence that actually supports those claims. Yesterday we got some real deal evidence about the actual details of the FBI taking possession of the laptop. Any evidence you provide should be in harmony with the real deal evidence we got yesterday.
urbanmoving ago
the warrant does not provide chain of custody dumbass
kestrel9 ago
Sept 22, 2016 New York Post https://archive.li/58ama NYPD investigating Weiner’s sexting relationship with teen
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/us/politics/james-comey-election.html http://archive.is/xQbaQ#selection-2851.0-2854.1 New York Times has wrong info, even as late as April 2017?
FBI 'seized' laptop in early October? From who, Granite Management? Where the devices were housed since Sept 23, 2016?
What, New York Times telling even more fake news in that April 2017 article? @Are_We_Sure time to take a deep dive into those Strozk Page emails, I'm surprised you didn't /s
https://i.imgflip.com/2aigwy.jpg
March 1, 2018 https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-03-01%20RHJ%20to%20DAG%20(Weiner%20laptop).pdf Ron Johnson Letter to Rod Rosenstein, inquiring about FBI actions involved in the discovery of communications between Hillary/Huma on Weiner laptop.
urbanmoving ago
exactly its fake news you can't "seize" something that was already seized by first Granite, then NYPD when executing the warrant.
Are_we_sure ago
Yeah, I talked about all this over a year ago, when I looked into this.
When the story broke both NYPD and the US attorney opened investigations. But the US Attorney went further
So both the NYPD and the FBI opened investigations, but only one issued a subpoena that day.
What information do you think is wrong?
Yes. The Feds executed the search and seizure on Oct 3.
What's the warrant say? The warrant would have to say what the evidence to be seized is and where the location to be searched is.
Are_we_sure ago
Just found out ProPublica and the New Yorker collaborated on the deep dive in the Comey days at FBI.
https://www.propublica.org/article/problems-with-fbi-clinton-email-investigation-went-well-beyond-comey
They date the seizure of the laptop to the 26th, the day the warrants were issued and October 3 as the first day Comey learned Clinton emails were on the laptop. The 26th fits with the S/P texts on the 28th. So I think the 26th makes sense. It was the first day they could legally pickup the laptop.
I learned how the girl Weiner was sexting with found her way to the Daily Mail she reached out Sidney Leathers, remember her? And Leather's agent told the Daily Mail and cut a deal
There's a lot of details here about who at the FBI knew what when. The overall story is that Comey screwed up big time by going public with his pronouncements because he gave himself a false choice and chose to ignore long stand Depart of Justice Guidelines. Rosenstein is particularly good on this false choice.
Once again no mention of the NYPD wahtsoever.
kestrel9 ago
I just lost my comments, will try again when I have more time.
Are_we_sure ago
That happened to me like twice when responding to you. I hate that.
I think the truepundit/erik prince story is a deliberate political hoax. Either they are lying or were lied to. They were trying to make it look like a political coverup and muddying the waters right before the election. None of the consequences came true. Clinton was not indicted. All the others were not indicted and no one from NYPD has said boo about it. I also think that disproves the wild claims about stomach churning evidence.
I have seen no evidence at all the NYPD examined the laptop at all.
The only open question I have is the DOJ thanked the NYPD SVU. Why?
Was that just a way of keeping them happy because the Feds got the conviction and the locals easily could have? Or did they do material work? One way they could have helped is talking to the girl. That's their expertise.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/anthony-weiner-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-transferring-obscene-material
Given that neither of the two lengthy dives into what happened with the laptop mention the NYPD at all, could it be NYPD SVU helped in other ways? This is the open question.
srayzie ago
@Are_we_sure
Why have you not followed thru on your assignment? Do you not get paid for answering questions? Since you make me put up with you all the time, can you at least take some time out to answer these simple questions.
@think- @bopper @Blacksmith21 @youllrememberme
youllrememberme ago
@Blacksmith21 has been trying to get him to denounce pedophilia and he wont even do that.
Are_we__sure ago
Sooooooo stupid. Cuffs. The fantasy world you inhabit is amazing. I'm going to be in cuffs because you don't like my posts on a messageboard.
Blacksmith was not trying to get me to denounce pedophilia, he was insulting and rude because I pointed it out when he tried to use pizzagate as a weapon in simple partisan politics. He was then trying to use that tactic against me. Because he was caught.
think asked me the question in a way that was not rude and I answered.
Blacksmith21 ago
Sorry...I misread your comment and posted in error. Yeah, @are_we_sure is a fucking punk bitch. He may be in cuffs by now anyhow.
Are_we__sure ago
Sooooooo stupid. Cuffs. The fantasy world you inhabit is amazing. I'm going to be in cuffs because you don't like my posts on a messageboard.
Blacksmith was not trying to get me to denounce pedophilia, he was insulting and rude and giving homework. think asked me the question and I answered.
Blacksmith21 ago
Stop being a sensitive pussy. You didn't answer @think- question. You gave some mealy-mouthed non-response.
Are_we__sure ago
Bullshit.
srayzie ago
Haha that’s right
youllrememberme ago
I missed it anyways lol
srayzie ago
He’s @KnightsOfHubris too
youllrememberme ago
I didn't miss that one lol I was talking about missing Blacksmith21's other comment.
srayzie ago
Ohh ok.
Blacksmith21 ago
What the fuck are you talking about? I'm crystal fucking clear where I stand on pedos. Gallows or burned alive.
bopper ago
Don't hold your breath, I've asked the same thing before, no response.
However, I did get an answer about Adam Schiff when I asked if AWS thought he was a creep, "No, I don't think he's a creep." Lol.
Keep in mind this person also believes the Warren Report. So he says.
@Are_we_sure
srayzie ago
Omg lol. Who in their right mind can look at Adam Schiff and not think he’s a creep? 😂
http://i.imgs.fyi/img/3c9f.jpg
youllrememberme ago
LOL That dude has pedo written all over him.
srayzie ago
Oh gosh yes!
bopper ago
I know, but AWS actually said that. Should have saved it.
He's in the other thread here right now under QisForQuackery. Remember he's also KnightsOfHubris.
srayzie ago
I need to look the QisforQuackery up soon
crazy_eyes ago
i figured it so
youllrememberme ago
@Are_We_Sure @KnightsofHubris
Go fuck yourself. Molon Labe
#WWG1WGA #PatriotsFight
Blacksmith21 ago
Molon Labe. @youllrememberme - You are starting to sound like me. All of the hypothesis completely remove the White Hat variable from the analysis.
No one seems to realize that Prince has established, with the help of good elements from the USG, a secondary intelligence gathering network. Prine has the ability to wield national level assets with clandestine cover, without the red type of official channels.
youllrememberme ago
No shit lol It's driving me nuts. It would take me 15 minutes to clone that hard drive.
Blacksmith21 ago
I meant to say hypotheses.
dooob ago
@KnightsofHubris can you hear the thunders? No mercy for traitors!
SYNCORSWIM ago
Thank you. I knew I was remembering correctly. NYPD does have the laptop.
youllrememberme3 ago
Did. Who knows where it's at now if it even still exists, the fbi definately took it. But.. there's copies for sure.
SavedbyJCfromRSA_MK ago
BRAVO, Thanks for clearing this up.
youllrememberme3 ago
You're welcome
pby1000 ago
That is the way I remember it. The NYPD got a hold of it at some point.
Alpha_Voat_Protecter ago
Eric Prince (of Blackwater) and Rudy Giuliani (a beloved former New York City mayor), among several others, were immediately giving interviews on Fox about the generally-sinister nature of the findings, and interviews on conspiracy shows like (((InfoWars))) to hint at the particular details of "just how much shit they found on Weiner's computer, and just how MUCH of it tied back to the Clintons and the larger Swamp, BACK WHEN WEINER'S SCANDAL WAS FIRST BREAKING TO THE SURFACE BEFORE THE ELECTION!!!
Anyone claiming that the NYPD never gave the computer to the FBI (likely while under duress, due to the DoJ threatening to go after the whole department for the Eric Garner death if they didn't fall in line) either wasn't paying any attention back then or is trying to pass disinformation now.
Oh, one last thing: Erik Prince is the brother of Betsy DeVos, the woman who Trump picked for "Secretary of Education", and Giuliani is both a longtime friend of Trump and one of the lawyers currently working on Trump's legal team to prevent anyone from attacking the President through his past life as a private citizen. I guarantee that Trump knows about EVERYTHING on Weiner's server, and that we'll find out that the MAGA parts of the DoJ, FBI, and OIG have been working closely with the NYPD to study that computer and its contents.
youllrememberme3 ago
They had it first for the sexting scandal, it was all over the place. I'm pretty sure they thought it was all scrubbed and this was an attack to discredit us. Nice try clowns.
Blacksmith21 ago
Nice work.
youllrememberme3 ago
Thanks
RoBatten ago
Yes, thanks for setting the record straight. We're getting shilled hard now . . .
nowcomesthepain ago
Thanks
bopper ago
Here is the Erik Prince interview, posted by Q, where he talks about NYPD seeing the laptop contents and subsequently getting pushback that shut them down.
Also see Q post # 1365.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XCp9sD9Uj4
urbanmoving ago
Here is the timeline with all relevant info, I didn't even include Prince's statements. Why the sources are still anonymous, and in my eyes irrelevant to refuting the shill shit NYPD SVU was not involved even through Granite they could have been as explained below.
https://steemit.com/clinton/@urbanmoving/anthony-weiner-s-labtop-phone-electronic-devices-and-granite-intelligence
bopper ago
Thanks much, here's a more recent post about the subject.
https://voat.co/v/GreatAwakening/2556678
urbanmoving ago
welcome its intended as a benchmark for future investigation. From what i can GI is a front for Strang and all that he musters its a spook front.
urbanmoving ago
its because Weiner unknowingly to the system had "insurance" they didn't know and when it was found out it became hell on wheels they were led to sperging out...thye just thought oh well Weiner is sexting underage girls ago which he had done repeatedly and they looked the other way when they found this the system freaked the fuck out. Granite pulled all of it for safe keeping and counter blackmail I presume