Weiner's laptop: Why would the NYPD have it? (pizzagate)

submitted ago by AreWeSure

I keep seeing folks say that the NYPD kept the contents of Weiner's laptop.

Where is this info coming from? Is there a real NYPD source for this?

Because I think this cannot be true.

The NYPD unit that would be involved in this would be the one that handles sex crimes, the Special Victims Unit. Is there any reason that the NYPD Special Victims Unit would have top level national security clearance?

Because the FBI warrant said the laptop would be seized and that the reason was there was probable cause the laptop contained contraband, aka classified information. Now one of the things the FBI does in a case like this in addition to determining if the mishandling of documents rises to the level of a crime is to retrieve and properly store the contraband. You can just leave copies of classified information out there.

The search warrant mentions that classified info may only be shared with people with a need to know. I don't think anyone on the NYPD Special Victims Unit has a need to know since they are not even federal employees. In fact the warrant says that any classified informaton would be "owned by the US government."

https://www.scribd.com/document/334714814/Weiner-Email-Search-Warrant

At the very end of the warrant, we have this

If the Government determines that the Subject Laptop is no longer necessary to retrieve and preserve the data on the device, and that the Subject Laptop is not subject to seizure pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 41( c ), the Government will return the Subject Laptop.

So it's possible they could give the laptop back at some point, but if the NYPD wanted it, they would need their own warrant.

Also NYPD doesn't have jurisdiction in this case. The girl was in North Carolina. This cross state lines which is why is being handled by the US district attorney and not the NY County district attorney.

So there's no reason for the NYPD to have any of this material, it seems to me......so why do some many believe believe they have it? Seems like wishful thinking.

NotTooLate ago

It's all here. Best report on the whole entire scandal. Jason T. O'Quinn says the laptop Hillary Clinton claimed was missing and why she couldn't turn it in - was the laptop Weiner had when he got busted for his sexting. https://www.facebook.com/abc13Houston/posts/10205710854010816

AreWeSure ago

Dear Sir,

Your mistaken. That was not a comment from ABC. That comment was from Jason T O'Quinn.

Warmest regards ,

AWS

NotTooLate ago

Thank you, I will correct this.

Are_we_sure ago

a picture....sent to an underage girl.

False. You're conflating two cases.

The picture with the child was sent to a 40-year old divorcee. That story broke in August 2016. The woman spoke to the New York Post who kept her anonymous.

The girl in North Carolina Story broke in September 2016 after a story in Daily Mail. This story prompted the FBI/NYPD to open their investigations. NOT the New York post story.

I created this alt, because I have limited posting on the other. Notice that it's not covert.

The_Invincible_Moose ago

The NYPD originally seized the laptop. (Google will confirm this.) I remember reading in late 2016 that they turned it over to the FBI, but kept a copy of the hard drive and turned another copy over to congressional Republicans (Chaffetz?). Wish I could give you more. It's been too long.

AreWeSure ago

The whole point of the blizzard of ideologically driven fake news sites and the sites that repost their stuff is to overwhelm Google's algorithim so that fake news shows up first.

Regarding your claims.

The NYPD originally seized the laptop.

I contest this did not happen, based on my reading of the true available evidence, the Feds were first to supbpoena Weiner.

They turned it over to the FBI, but kept a copy of the hard drive

The NYPD would have no right to that copy and since that hard drive was seized in part to discover classified contraband, the NYPD would not be cleared to possess it. Keeping a copy would be illegal, in other words.

and turned another copy over to congressional Republicans (Chaffetz?).

This is utter nonsense and I don't even have to look this up. This would be a serious crime. This is fantasyland.

Are_we_sure ago

These are separate investigations.

The CPS investigation into Weiner's son has nothing to do with the sexting with the NC girl case and to my knowledge has not led to any criminal case.

Both the NYPD and the FBI said that they opened their North Carolina cases based on the Daily Mail article.

Are_we_sure ago

It is not true that the NYPD had this case first and I don't think they had Anthony Weiner's laptop at all.

The case was started by Sept 21 article in the Daily Mail in the UK. On Sept 22 both the NYPD and the Feds opened separate cases and NY Post reported that day that Preet Bharara issued a subpoena for Weiner's records. This seems to be the first subpoena.

Are_we_sure ago

NY Times reported that the FBI were the ones who seized the laptop NOT the NYPD.

The "life insurance" folder seems to be complete bullshit that was made up on twitter.

Spiritual_War ago

These so called "NYPD insider leaks" are never going to happen and it's just a disinfo campaign to make people believe that someone is about to spill the beans, which will make some pizzagate investigators feel content and satisfied and they may feel there is no need to investigate if there's going to be a leak. Word to the wise, keep investigating, there's definitely pedophilies among the elites and everywhere else

equineluvr ago

Yes, the feds have jurisdiction here, which I have posted before. However, that was countered with, "NYPD made copies of everything."

So IDK.

Are_we_sure ago

How do we know the "NYPD made copies of everything."

The FBI warrant makes it clear the NYPD making copies of everything would not be legal. Only the FBI was given the right to seize that laptop and that information.

SuperShilly ago

Not like legalities matter anymore. The legal system is jammed up and choking and I think people don't give a shot anymore.

EnragedSnail ago

This seems to be why were are where we are, those that do give a shot, or shit :), are operating, or trying to operate within the law while those they are battling not only operate outside of it, but twist it to further hinder those that adhere to it.

dskies ago

Bill Donohue comments on his role in the FBI probe of Anthony Weiner: http://www.catholicleague.org/donohues-role-in-fbi-weiner-probe/ http://archive.is/syPC5#selection-1085.0-1085.69

Are_we_sure ago

didn't know that.

However, there's nothing there that says the child services investigation let to the FBI probe. Again one is city and one is federal.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

NC may have brought the NYPD in on it!

FckPizza3 ago

Ugh!!!! :(

UnicornsAndSparkles ago

Hasn't the NYPD police chief mentioned the contents and threatened to show us if they don't soon? Also I remember something about Trump changing the law when he first came in letting police departments have more power over big cases - I believe he seen the FBI and CIA "investigations" coming and knows most in these departments can't be trusted. Just like the travel ban. I feel like he has alterior motives to these outlandish decisions he is making.

equineluvr ago

You think Trump signed an EO changing jurisdictions in crim cases? This I gotta see!!

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Weiner is being investigated for sexting a minor! In NY. So of course the NYPD would have access to his laptop. They asked for and received a warrant for all of Weiner's electronics. Weiner just happened to have all that sick crap on a laptop that was seized.

GeorgeT ago

Bullseye!

Are_we_sure ago

@saywhatnoway

The minor was in North Carolina and the Feds got a warrant first. So again, if you have a real source that says the NYPD ever had Weiner's laptop, I would like to see it.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

I only see what is written. Fakenews is everywhere! Idk that you will ever find the truth about that laptop. Maybe that is why HillPedo is running for Mayor of NY, to get access to that Weiner laptop??

oneposteach ago

That not shit though, 9/10 people I know sexted somebody they didn't know the real age. Either pizzagate starts doing real inveestigations or I start doxing you faggots and you can see how it feels.

abortionburger ago

If you threaten to dox members of Voat again, I will ban you. This is your warning.

Edit: never mind he was already banned

EnragedSnail ago

"That not shit though", it though might be. Your association with reckless people is not a convincing argument for your skill in discerning "real inveestigations" either. Your efforts might be better spent learning basic grammer, or at least spell checker, before trying to tackle logical arguments. (Pro tip: Most productive criticism will not include off topic references to sexual prefrences)

oneposteach ago

"muh spelling dick" fucking nigger

dougG ago

Die!

EnragedSnail ago

Better, but since the topic dose not pertain to race, this is still considered a less than productive argument.

oneposteach ago

No the topic revolves around proof you fucking retard, not circumstantial evidence that you can do to anybody.

EnragedSnail ago

Was unaware that the age of the person he was sexting was disputed. If that is the case, fair enough, but his decision to interact with a child in a sexual manner, weather he thought she was "old enough" or not is in fact illegal. That even a local leader would enable, ignore, or excuse his actions is proof of a problem. He has already been proven to be a criminal.

oneposteach ago

The optimal age for conception is actually around 15 years old and why people have been so stigmatized on their own mammal. Illegal or not, everybody at one point in time is attracted to this age group, for some it never ends.

EnragedSnail ago

Desire is not a justification for breaking the law. If this law is so damaging, then speak out publicly to get it changed (I whole heartedly disagree with you that their could be any reasonable excuse for his actions), he has every right to challenge a law, but breaking it due to his lack of self control is inexcusable.

oneposteach ago

Desire to reproduce but that is at 14 years old, why would any 14 year old be attracted to a 14 year old? Are they pedophiles? Why would puberty come 4 years before it is needed?

EnragedSnail ago

I am not arguing the biology of it, I am simply looking at the laws I am required to abide by and expecting the same adherence by those who create and enforce them.

oneposteach ago

Obviously these people are attracted to these younger people, what changes?

oneposteach ago

Studies show a majority of the population has sex before 18 years old, how is it everyone is a pedophile?

EnragedSnail ago

The law is the law, he can argue to change it, but to break it just because you do not agree with it is not a defence to shield a person from the legal consequences. We are not a nation led by the people if those that enforce the laws break the ones they dislike while leaving ordinary citizens to be constrained by those laws. The public deserves a say in what we as a society will allow and what we will not. It boils down to he broke the law. There is nothing circumstantial or grey area about that, just like my empatientce is not going to get me out of a speeding ticket even though no one may have been hurt and the speed limit in that area may need to be reevaluated, or I may have really wanted to get home so bad I couldn't help myself, his lack of self control is not an escape from the legal consequences.

AreWeSure ago

This is being handled in federal court. That means FBI and the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY, not the Manhattan, not the NYPD and the Manhattan district attorney.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/31/prosecutors-weigh-child-pornography-charges-against-anthony-weiner.html

@UnicornsAndSparkles

Hasn't the NYPD police chief mentioned the contents and threatened to show us if they don't soon?

I don't think this is real. A fake news site put this out, but I haven't seen anything in the real news.

Truthseeker101 ago

There are zero solid sources that NYPD has Wieners laptop and what was found on it. I also realized that the source about the police chief threatening to release the contents is not a provable fact. It sucks but OP is correct.

SilenceDoGood ago

This post is retarded that I had to sign on and say this. Anthony Weiners laptop was seized by NYPD investigating his relationship with a minor. It was only taken by the feds when they found Clinton emails on it that pertain to its previous investigation. The NYPD are the ones who began the investigation and first had the evidence.

Truthseeker101 ago

If it's retarded then provide a source

UnicornsAndSparkles ago

I understand they aren't currently investigating it but I just can't shake this feeling Trump put these things in place for a reason. Maybe the courts will find him innocent then they can show evidence to public?

I am not doubting what you say but, but want to clarify what are we classing as a fake news site? And was this the site everyone has referenced thereafter?

Was watching a video on here the other day regarding missing people in national parks and something was mentioned about not acknowledging evidence while the case is being investigated. Could it be that this is the case? (Apologies I don't know much about legal systems etc especially over in US.)

Are_we_sure ago

I am not doubting what you say but, but want to clarify what are we classing as a fake news site? And was this the site everyone has referenced thereafter?

The original source for this seems to be truepundit.com A definitely dishonest site.

In general, the guidelines are the authorities are not supposed to discuss an ongoing investigation. This gets violated a lot though.

UnicornsAndSparkles ago

Thanks for being so informative.

Here's to hoping it's true anyways.

SayWhatNOWAY ago

Idk all MSM is questionable.

ArthurEdens ago

Because they live in new york city