Some older accounts have turned or started showing their true colors too.
It's a mix of newbots, older sold-off accounts and sleepers.
Always happens when TPTB get agitated about something.
They throw money at sharejew, and they do what they always do: utterly fail to shift public opinion.
voat should work towards developing an open source algorithm to detect manipulation by malicious organizations
machine learning is literally voodo in how effective it can separate datasets and users based on behavior, i don't see how it couldn't be applied to identifying true users vs those who work on a fixed schedule pushing a particular narrative. NLP + data science is cutting edge but very real modern day technology
They come in waves. I assume the JIDF has some sort of quota system. Also possible Kikes at Jewniversities are recruiting brainwashed soygoys to make these posts as well, since Kikes are to lazy to do any actual work.
Watta meme, doing the correct spelling of a holiday greeting on the actual holiday. Jews are going to be so mad when we replace christmas with the correctly spelled chanukah.
They are paid-per-post for engaging. They start with posting some random stance that has practically no relevance to what you are saying and then attempt to engage you pretty much forever. At some point I typically end up replying with "boop beep bop" and you guessed it, they still keep responding. I find it best to block and report them after a few vollies. They aren't here to have their minds changed, it's just inbred Kikes in Israel getting paid to annoy us.
You don't think they're wasting the time of actual Jews on us do you? They have banks to rob us through and media to lie to us through. Trolling voat is the kind of shit they farm out to college kids and sjw pseudo-jews.
This hanukka thing has been a disaster from the start. Hanukka started 9 days ago and ended yesterday which is pretty much the period in which people have said it. This is something that should have been started any other time of the year, preferably in the middle of summer, seems like a (((coincidence))) that people started doing it pretty much right on time.
And hh is the correct spelling, why should we respect their spelling and keep their cultural norms intact?
It might be worth the effort to start making some new subverses. You know, like v/againsthatesubs or v/antifa so that WE control them and not them. I'm tired of sharing my playgrounds.
VOAT encourages it just like Rebbit does. They want viewers, they want your donations. Remember it costs $6 thousandhundred-thousand million /mo to run rebbit voat.
We don't log IP, we generate a hash based on a few things and compare those. I'd have to look at the code but I think it's impossible for us to reverse an IP from what we store.
But even this is useless and we will be removing this code when we get around to it.
If you're worried about IP addresses please use a VPN. Actually, always use a VPN.
Also, nice assumptions there, but like usual, wrong.
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We don't log IP, we generate a hash based on a few things and compare those. I'd have to look at the code but I think it's impossible for us to reverse an IP from what we store.
Sorry Put I see no way to believe this. Only thing in common is the IP. Different OS, browser, even LAN, only common thing was the public IP. The accounts were registered months apart and upvote attempts were hours apart. You might hash the IP so it's "cryptic" but still nothing else in common to let a remote system determine it was same user.
If you're worried about IP addresses please use a VPN. Actually, always use a VPN.
I'm not worried about the IP, you inferring this implies you didn't read /v/ideasforvoat/2887109 which suggested you retain the first 3 octets of users IP to identify vote/user farming. I'm more worried about the blatant lying.
Also, nice assumptions there, but like usual, wrong.
Nice of you to have "open source" > 1 year old that has none of the features questioned in the code. Assumptions don't come from verifying someone is lying. You're still just making excuses to cover it up
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Since this will inevitably lead to more people making new accounts just to fuck with people who take those numbers too seriously, is the dumb ass Q badge gone yet?
I intend to make a new one as soon as that's gone so I don't have to look at it anymore.
Who cares? Using multiple accounts to manipulate voting is improper, but speech whether in agreement or disagreement isn’t. Why care how old an account is or if it is an alt account or anything else?
When every post you make is argued against with obviously lazy arguments that do nothing more than spread disinformation and you realize that everyone arguing with you signed up with accounts yesterday, it doesn't take an inbred Jew to figure out something is amiss.
But again, who cares? That only speaks to the motives of the posters, not to their arguments.
It is somewhat cowardly to seek to avoid argument because an account is new rather than actually refuting what they say. I understand the impulse, because they say stupid shit. But unless your only reason for coming to Voat is to get affirmation from people with whom you already agree (together with a little dopamine rush when you get upvoted), it really shouldn’t matter.
If you want to convince people of your points then actually argue for them when people (whether they are shills or not) disagree. If anything an influx of faggots should be an opportunity to impart knowledge. You may not change a paid shill’s mind (though you might) but it could help third persons who read it.
Oi vey leave us jews alone have you forgot about the 6 million brave souls that perished? 12 million jews died because of goyim like you never forget the 24 million brave jews killed by alt right bigots like you you disgusted me im sueing you for all your sheckles your words insight violence my lawer weinsteingoldenburger will have a field day with you.
Sure, but even then you should deal with every person you speak with on a case by case basis. My point is anything less than that - unless it's obvious spam or some shit - is disingenuous and pathetic
Just got locked out of my account a couple weeks ago due to retardation. If I hadn't been forced to make a new account I probably wouldn't have been able to empathize.
Fact is you shouldn't be treating someone's comment any differently if it was made by a three year old account or a three week old account. If you have to throw away someone's opinion over their account's age because you can't respond to it on merit alone, you're a dumb nigger.
You know, when you join a club of Men. Real Men, that don't bullshit around. You usually have to be initiated and then spend time at the bottom of the social totem pole for a while (you know, more than 17 days) before they take you seriously.
Same thing here.
Using the whole "Comment equality" or "I forgot my password/account" excuse doesn't fly here.
Don't lose your account, and or password. You're just going to have to start all over on a new account. Try making quality posts during your new probationary period in the group.
This time, keep your account safe.
Or just get used to the fact that people are going to look down on you until you've proven that you can contribute quality to the site. EVEN IF you disagree, as there are ways to disagree and debate without looking like a shill faggot.
But you haven't done that yet, at least in this thread. . .you've done the opposite.
You know, when you join a club of Men. Real Men, that don't bullshit around. You usually have to be initiated and then spend time at the bottom of the social totem pole for a while (you know, more than 17 days) before they take you seriously.
LOL HOLY SHIT you're some kind of faggot larper aren't you? You don't make up the rules of voat, nigger.
Using the whole "Comment equality" or "I forgot my password/account" excuse doesn't fly here.
None of your business why someone makes a new account, and it's a reason, not an excuse. Only women have excuses. Are you a woman?
Don't lose your account, and or password. You're just going to have to start all over on a new account. Try making quality posts during your new probationary period in the group.
This time, keep your account safe.
Don't patronize me you fucking nigger. I make new accounts once a year for opsec.
But really, thanks for
Or just get used to the fact that people are going to look down on you until you've proven that you can contribute quality to the site. EVEN IF you disagree, as there are ways to disagree and debate without looking like a shill faggot.
proving
But you haven't done that yet, at least in this thread. . .you've done the opposite.
That's not it at all, and the way you assume so tells more about you than me. Meritocracy as you mention is me seeing your profile and realizing you haven't ever submitted any content, so your opinion vis á vis voat is worthless, you haven't put in any work. I can also see you have an almost 10 to 1 relation of upvotes versus downvotes, so I can also assume you are not some troll account; surely going against the grain is not trolling by definition but if I see someone with -9999 and +2 they are bound to be an incoherent foreign language spammer.
So yeah, I treat new accounts with slight suspicion and established accounts that have done their rounds with slightly less suspicion, what a fag I am, right? Also, no one would change accounts ever unless people gave shit over the opinions they have expressed or stuff they have done; they want a fresh beginning they got it, it doesn't include inordinate amounts of goodwill from me by default, because we do have trolls, spammers, bots, retards, and so on.
That's not it at all, and the way you assume so tells more about you than me.
Lol armchair psychologist from reddit doesn't know that I don't give a flying fuck about his opinion of me
Nothing I said in that comment is untrue, and nothing I said was an assumption. Work on your comprehension.
I've submitted content (not on this account, aside from this post) - but again, every other reddit nigger has a compulsive need to view someone's comment or post history before addressing them.
If they're obviously trolling or spamming it's a different story. Is that what I'm doing here?
Also, no one would change accounts ever unless people gave shit over the opinions they have expressed or stuff they have done;
You claim I make assumptions and proceed to make a huge one. I make new accounts for opsec.
If you have to throw away someone's opinion over their account's age because you can't respond to it on merit alone, you're a dumb nigger.
None of this is false? I'm sorry, it's all false. I don't and can't use "you are new ergo X is false", but I can say "Ive seen this guy around, he makes outlandish claims they can't back up, or seem to be all emotionally bothered in their interactions with other users", I won't bother with them.
I have totes submitted totes of good content, trust me
Then log in in that account and claim so, this account is new and hasn't submitted shit. This is also false I think.
If they're obviously trolling or spamming it's a different story. Is that what I'm doing here?
No, but if I decide after this interaction that you are an asshole and I don't particularly care about your opinion I can ignore you forever and lose nothing, you are running awful close to that.
You claim I make assumptions and proceed to make a huge one. I make new accounts for opsec.
Assumptions. We are only talking because you assumed "being treated as a new account" meant "disenfranchising and hating on", I interact with new accounts in a pleasant manner all the time; you are in the shitty, whiny, totalitarian, reddit minority.
Also, I piss in your "opsec", your ISP knows who you are and where you go online, and several governments have built-in backdoors in both your software and hardware. Plus keyloggers that register exactly how you type and can pick you out if you are using any keyboard that isn't yours. If you have a smartphone you carry a gps device on you 24/7. "I'll make several voat accounts, that'll make me invisible!", lmao.
Of course you can categorize people on the posts they've made, but when you choose to address them I'm saying it should be on a case by case basis.
Why would I link content from my old account if the goal was to start fresh?
No, but if I decide after this interaction that you are an asshole and I don't particularly care about your opinion I can ignore you forever and lose nothing, you are running awful close to that.
Yeah, but that's life - I don't know why you're spelling this out for me like I don't understand the rules.
Also lol - reddit minority. God forbid anyone still here uses that shit asscan of a website.
And you don't piss in my "opsec", I understand how operating systems, hardware, and the infrastructure of the internet work. :^)
The entirety of the post was made to address an issue that I saw which started before the MDE migration, but that I never had to deal with - I wanted to highlight the elitist attitude that people have when they can't address someone on the words they've written in their comment. It's not healthy for a place that thrives on free speech to have people acting in this way
I think I misread the tone of your original message in this instance
Well, "an age account doesn't make what they are saying false" is something I agree with; in fact I said this:
if someone I don't trust or like, like Laura Loomer, is saying "censorship is bad", that doesn't make censorship good
not a day ago, had you checked out my history maybe you would have seen it, wink, wink. Glad we did find common ground though, have a good one, and good luck with the opsce, but I was also being serious I think there's zero real opsec unless maybe you build your own hardware so it can give people a sense of false security, and people should have that in mind regarding what they post; I don't live anywhere Holocaust denial is illegal, for example. Cheers.
Yes I agree there is no real opsec unless you're running your own hardware from desktop to networking. It's unfortunate. Not a few months ago super micro was shown to have chinese backdoors installed.
I meant human opsec if that makes sense. I don't always use voat while sober - call it coping if you want - but the mood it puts me in isn't healthy. I don't keep track of 100% of what I say, so sometimes I'll have a look back and if I notice that I let a detail slip then I'll wipe the account.
I'm a bit testy today I guess - my fault for misunderstanding your initial comment
I guess I also misunderstood your position on opsec. I'm "lucky" in that I live in the third world, so if you say "women are not men" or even "blacks are bit subhuman, innit?" people don't dox and harass you out of your livelihood, people actually agree with those statements in public outside some college classrooms and hipster neighborhoods.
Your account is about 21 days older than my first account. And your take on account age and characteristics is pretty accurate. By the way, do you know of a way to see your own statistics that you see in the mousehover popup for others? I could probably use my first account to do that, but I'm not wanting to use it again on the main site.
I used to be massively into text based MMO's. A simplified version of describing them would be something like Voat with an emphasis on the downvoat button. Long story short everyone cheated the fuck out of that system. I personally had around 400 alts running all automatically off of scripts with a couple of party tricks to avoid admin wrath. And I by far wasn't even the worst one.
Voat should have far more emphasis on the downvote button. I've seen people directly calling out posts in the comments as being fake as fuck, but with 50 upvotes and 1 downvote because it fit some narrative.
I've even seen 5-10 people calling things out as fake in the comments, but nobody having downvoated at all 2-3 days later.
On the other side of that coin I do see the downvoates being employed to enforce said narrative every now and then. Attempted to do so discretely by keeping a post at say (+3/-1) and thus bury it even though it's obvious what it says is spot on.
I had such a post the other day. Until it turned out I was right about the Russians and selfishly brought attention back to it because I'm an attention whore. It was in fact a (+3/-1) post because I didn't want to bash MSN over not reporting on something they actually did.
I'd advice you just to roll with it and take it as a chance to study humans in a closed environment. Anything else will just leave you frustrated.
Because they know if they sully their older accounts that they aged and bought that they'll have nothing to fall back on when the new waves of accounts are outed.
Is there a particular reason we can't just go after these fucks and make it impossible for them to type anything?
And some of us decided to go with new accounts because a paradigm shift is occurring. You can't deny that. My old account wasn't necessarily dox-level incriminating, but anyone with enough patience could have put a couple of things together and figured it out eventually. Apparently (again, my reason behind a new account) this is becoming the norm.
No pity from me. That's what happens when you post info about yourself. You know what the solution to that is, right? Fucking don't. I know, shocking right?
Happy to see the echo chamber opinions here being challenged though. More room for debate and information, where some ideas may not hold their weight in water
When 5 different accounts all created yesterday argue nonsense with every single post you made, it doesn't take an inbred Jew to figure out it's Jewry.
If you share the common opinion of users on this platform your beliefs have probably already gone through purgatory a couple of times. Shills and arrogant reddit-brains aren't providing a challenge, they are noise. No one is going to be challenged by hearing another rendition of basic propaganda like "everyone is equal and equally deserving". Their marketplace of ideas just isn't updated because they have lived in censorship and shills physically can't say gas the kikes race war now.
Pilpul engage. There is quite a bit of it on his part but this is one continuous back and forth between he and I. I would recommend not trusting this kike, obviously.
Pro Tip: Treat SBBH like a Jew Star patch from Nazi German. And just like Jews don't let them gaslight you, it's literally their only tactic because sadly, its highly effective.
Sometimes I see some pretty hilarious anti-trump posts that just spew out MSM propaganda like they got it right from CNN. It's unlikely that these ones are JIDF and more likely they are just young(mentally) liberals who think they can come here and change a few minds with their "facts". I've tried conversing with a few but they are all so brain dead I quickly realize they are too dumb to even troll properly. The only funny part is how their such angry, resentful and emotional NPC faggots who can't actually argue, only repeat MSM "facts".
KillallFaggots ago
I'm recently new. I hate jews. Don't all normal people do?
obvious-throwaway- ago
Many are blissfully unaware.
Gorillion ago
Some older accounts have turned or started showing their true colors too.
It's a mix of newbots, older sold-off accounts and sleepers.
Always happens when TPTB get agitated about something.
They throw money at sharejew, and they do what they always do: utterly fail to shift public opinion.
Crackrocknigga ago
JIDF's #1 goal is to cause distractions and prevent discussion here. Safe to assume that anyone who tits into this category could be JIDF.
BumFightChamp ago
Just in time for hannakuah
jernos201 ago
voat should work towards developing an open source algorithm to detect manipulation by malicious organizations
machine learning is literally voodo in how effective it can separate datasets and users based on behavior, i don't see how it couldn't be applied to identifying true users vs those who work on a fixed schedule pushing a particular narrative. NLP + data science is cutting edge but very real modern day technology
ifuckdolphinseverday ago
gas the bikes!
obvious-throwaway- ago
They come in waves. I assume the JIDF has some sort of quota system. Also possible Kikes at Jewniversities are recruiting brainwashed soygoys to make these posts as well, since Kikes are to lazy to do any actual work.
ArmourFou ago
Oh no! Not disagreement!
obvious-throwaway- ago
Egypt had no place in this, Hitler had no right to attack Poland.
ArmourFou ago
Not sure what this is about, but uh...okay.
obvious-throwaway- ago
Oh no! Not disagreement!
Why won't you debate me?
ArmourFou ago
I don't think I disagree with you.
obvious-throwaway- ago
What's wrong, you don't like conversations about nothing, that go nowhere and don't make sense?
ArmourFou ago
I sometimes enjoy talking to my family.
SubhumanTorch ago
Watta meme, doing the correct spelling of a holiday greeting on the actual holiday. Jews are going to be so mad when we replace christmas with the correctly spelled chanukah.
Hand_of_Node ago
Ironic post from the fake obvious-throwaway-...
(yes, I know you're probably both of them.)
obvious-throwaway- ago
Random incoherent words strung together.
Hand_of_Node ago
heroinwinsagain ago
Shekles for speckles. H h
obvious-throwaway- ago
They are paid-per-post for engaging. They start with posting some random stance that has practically no relevance to what you are saying and then attempt to engage you pretty much forever. At some point I typically end up replying with "boop beep bop" and you guessed it, they still keep responding. I find it best to block and report them after a few vollies. They aren't here to have their minds changed, it's just inbred Kikes in Israel getting paid to annoy us.
anoncastillo ago
You don't think they're wasting the time of actual Jews on us do you? They have banks to rob us through and media to lie to us through. Trolling voat is the kind of shit they farm out to college kids and sjw pseudo-jews.
Gopherurself ago
Beem noticing a fuck ton more down voaters
SubhumanTorch ago
This hanukka thing has been a disaster from the start. Hanukka started 9 days ago and ended yesterday which is pretty much the period in which people have said it. This is something that should have been started any other time of the year, preferably in the middle of summer, seems like a (((coincidence))) that people started doing it pretty much right on time.
And hh is the correct spelling, why should we respect their spelling and keep their cultural norms intact?
BlackManOnVoat ago
Hey hey, Nero did nothing wrong!
SubhumanTorch ago
Shadilay my friend, nothing wrong indeed. His mother deserved everything she got.
BlackSheepBrouhaha ago
I've blocked a lot of users this week. I think they're discordian bots. Total non-sequitor comments.
EyeOfHorus ago
Happy Chanukah
Newmemba ago
expected kikery
FecalDemiurge6000 ago
I have one of them following me around and downvoating everything.
obvious-throwaway- ago
These last 12 days must have been unbearable.
qwsp0 ago
Amirite?
MrBoutros ago
It might be worth the effort to start making some new subverses. You know, like v/againsthatesubs or v/antifa so that WE control them and not them. I'm tired of sharing my playgrounds.
bourbonexpert ago
if they talk shit, dont make sense or are just plain annoying, i check their join date if its less than 3 months, i block them.
wft do i care?
draaaak ago
Make a list.
nomadriders ago
Holy shit I've been here for ages and didn't know you could hover over peoples names like that lol
obvious-throwaway- ago
Ages = 1.5 years
Turd_Coat ago
the age of an account is irrelevant. even if an account is old, it doesnt mean its anymore valid than a new account..
t. however old this account is
eronburr ago
VOAT encourages it just like Rebbit does. They want viewers, they want your donations. Remember it costs $6
thousandhundred-thousandmillion /mo to runrebbitvoat.It wouldn't be hard OR sacrifice anonymity to implement the suggestion in /v/ideasforvoat/2887109 sadly they don't want to
admit theylog your IP /v/technology/2893420PuttItOut ago
We don't log IP, we generate a hash based on a few things and compare those. I'd have to look at the code but I think it's impossible for us to reverse an IP from what we store.
But even this is useless and we will be removing this code when we get around to it.
If you're worried about IP addresses please use a VPN. Actually, always use a VPN.
Also, nice assumptions there, but like usual, wrong.
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eronburr ago
Sorry Put I see no way to believe this. Only thing in common is the IP. Different OS, browser, even LAN, only common thing was the public IP. The accounts were registered months apart and upvote attempts were hours apart. You might hash the IP so it's "cryptic" but still nothing else in common to let a remote system determine it was same user.
I'm not worried about the IP, you inferring this implies you didn't read /v/ideasforvoat/2887109 which suggested you retain the first 3 octets of users IP to identify vote/user farming. I'm more worried about the blatant lying.
Nice of you to have "open source" > 1 year old that has none of the features questioned in the code. Assumptions don't come from verifying someone is lying. You're still just making excuses to cover it up
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thelma ago
WTF is an "alternate account".
I assume that they cost more.
NO THANKS
capnflummox ago
Happy Hanukkah!
anoncastillo ago
Red pill the shills and you may turn some of them.
keksupreme ago
they are everywhere.
i especially agree with them being too inbred to form coherent thoughts
Asashio ago
Great more witch hunts.
Since this will inevitably lead to more people making new accounts just to fuck with people who take those numbers too seriously, is the dumb ass Q badge gone yet?
I intend to make a new one as soon as that's gone so I don't have to look at it anymore.
Big_Willy_Wallace ago
"So what? Why does it matter how old my account is blahblah blah"
I wish we had a good copy pasta for these faggots.
Chiefpacman ago
Nothing new there.
ALIENS2222 ago
God damn right...
mrgreenjeans9 ago
you know who they are, they're subversives
Thisismyvoatusername ago
Who cares? Using multiple accounts to manipulate voting is improper, but speech whether in agreement or disagreement isn’t. Why care how old an account is or if it is an alt account or anything else?
obvious-throwaway- ago
When every post you make is argued against with obviously lazy arguments that do nothing more than spread disinformation and you realize that everyone arguing with you signed up with accounts yesterday, it doesn't take an inbred Jew to figure out something is amiss.
Happy Chanukkah!
Thisismyvoatusername ago
But again, who cares? That only speaks to the motives of the posters, not to their arguments.
It is somewhat cowardly to seek to avoid argument because an account is new rather than actually refuting what they say. I understand the impulse, because they say stupid shit. But unless your only reason for coming to Voat is to get affirmation from people with whom you already agree (together with a little dopamine rush when you get upvoted), it really shouldn’t matter.
If you want to convince people of your points then actually argue for them when people (whether they are shills or not) disagree. If anything an influx of faggots should be an opportunity to impart knowledge. You may not change a paid shill’s mind (though you might) but it could help third persons who read it.
fuckinghell ago
A lot of times it's not even about convincing the other party, it's about convincing the reader.
Looking at it this way it's easier to justify arguing with shills.
XSS1337 ago
Welcome to S@DS Squad everyone ,
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=zuQGx1H1Qh8
KneeGrowJoe ago
Oi vey leave us jews alone have you forgot about the 6 million brave souls that perished? 12 million jews died because of goyim like you never forget the 24 million brave jews killed by alt right bigots like you you disgusted me im sueing you for all your sheckles your words insight violence my lawer weinsteingoldenburger will have a field day with you.
LampshadeMaker ago
Shalom, JIDF recruits. HH
obvious-throwaway- ago
Fuck, didn't realize they were sending their best.
Whitworth ago
Every Tim.
Improbablyanasshole ago
"I make new accounts for opsec. "
fuck_reddits_feefees ago
This is my alt. I've been posting on voat since the Bush administration.
Which one?
Yes.
R00STRE ago
This IS my alt and I HAVE been here longer than you.
canuhunter ago
I've made a new account every year since voat started.
Every time I get the "LOL ACCOUNT AGE < MY ACCOUNT AGE SO ARGUMENT INVALID"
Niggers that have to check someone's account age before responding to their comment based on it's merit need to be gassed
BlackManOnVoat ago
Member for 17 days.
hmm...............................................
hmm.
canuhunter ago
Thanks for proving my point nigger
Hand_of_Node ago
Generally invalid, unless their account age happens to coincide with an invasion wave.
canuhunter ago
Sure, but even then you should deal with every person you speak with on a case by case basis. My point is anything less than that - unless it's obvious spam or some shit - is disingenuous and pathetic
Hand_of_Node ago
Agreed.
canuhunter ago
I like you
Hand_of_Node ago
I'm grumpy and can be an asshole sometimes.
FecalDemiurge6000 ago
Just got locked out of my account a couple weeks ago due to retardation. If I hadn't been forced to make a new account I probably wouldn't have been able to empathize.
canuhunter ago
That's because you're a dumb nigger
ilu
Newmemba ago
gassed? must be a kike
canuhunter ago
oy gevalt
CobraStallone ago
Make new account be treated like a new account I always tell them.
canuhunter ago
Fact is you shouldn't be treating someone's comment any differently if it was made by a three year old account or a three week old account. If you have to throw away someone's opinion over their account's age because you can't respond to it on merit alone, you're a dumb nigger.
BlackManOnVoat ago
Still, tho Member for 17 days.
You know, when you join a club of Men. Real Men, that don't bullshit around. You usually have to be initiated and then spend time at the bottom of the social totem pole for a while (you know, more than 17 days) before they take you seriously.
Same thing here.
Using the whole "Comment equality" or "I forgot my password/account" excuse doesn't fly here.
Don't lose your account, and or password. You're just going to have to start all over on a new account. Try making quality posts during your new probationary period in the group.
This time, keep your account safe.
Or just get used to the fact that people are going to look down on you until you've proven that you can contribute quality to the site. EVEN IF you disagree, as there are ways to disagree and debate without looking like a shill faggot.
But you haven't done that yet, at least in this thread. . .you've done the opposite.
You should probably start over on a new account.
canuhunter ago
Dumb nigger, proving my point
LOL HOLY SHIT you're some kind of faggot larper aren't you? You don't make up the rules of voat, nigger.
None of your business why someone makes a new account, and it's a reason, not an excuse. Only women have excuses. Are you a woman?
Don't patronize me you fucking nigger. I make new accounts once a year for opsec.
But really, thanks for
proving
my
point
BlackManOnVoat ago
Yeah, you just doubled down. This is why the account history feature exists, you've chosen to further show us why. Thanks for that.
Try again on a new account buddy. Hopefully you'll learn this time.
Of course, I won't hold my breath either way.
canuhunter ago
oh have a nice day though
canuhunter ago
Doubled down on what? Keep your shitty snark on reddit, nigger
CobraStallone ago
That's not it at all, and the way you assume so tells more about you than me. Meritocracy as you mention is me seeing your profile and realizing you haven't ever submitted any content, so your opinion vis á vis voat is worthless, you haven't put in any work. I can also see you have an almost 10 to 1 relation of upvotes versus downvotes, so I can also assume you are not some troll account; surely going against the grain is not trolling by definition but if I see someone with -9999 and +2 they are bound to be an incoherent foreign language spammer.
So yeah, I treat new accounts with slight suspicion and established accounts that have done their rounds with slightly less suspicion, what a fag I am, right? Also, no one would change accounts ever unless people gave shit over the opinions they have expressed or stuff they have done; they want a fresh beginning they got it, it doesn't include inordinate amounts of goodwill from me by default, because we do have trolls, spammers, bots, retards, and so on.
canuhunter ago
Lol armchair psychologist from reddit doesn't know that I don't give a flying fuck about his opinion of me
Nothing I said in that comment is untrue, and nothing I said was an assumption. Work on your comprehension.
I've submitted content (not on this account, aside from this post) - but again, every other reddit nigger has a compulsive need to view someone's comment or post history before addressing them.
If they're obviously trolling or spamming it's a different story. Is that what I'm doing here?
You claim I make assumptions and proceed to make a huge one. I make new accounts for opsec.
CobraStallone ago
None of this is false? I'm sorry, it's all false. I don't and can't use "you are new ergo X is false", but I can say "Ive seen this guy around, he makes outlandish claims they can't back up, or seem to be all emotionally bothered in their interactions with other users", I won't bother with them.
Then log in in that account and claim so, this account is new and hasn't submitted shit. This is also false I think.
No, but if I decide after this interaction that you are an asshole and I don't particularly care about your opinion I can ignore you forever and lose nothing, you are running awful close to that.
Assumptions. We are only talking because you assumed "being treated as a new account" meant "disenfranchising and hating on", I interact with new accounts in a pleasant manner all the time; you are in the shitty, whiny, totalitarian, reddit minority.
Also, I piss in your "opsec", your ISP knows who you are and where you go online, and several governments have built-in backdoors in both your software and hardware. Plus keyloggers that register exactly how you type and can pick you out if you are using any keyboard that isn't yours. If you have a smartphone you carry a gps device on you 24/7. "I'll make several voat accounts, that'll make me invisible!", lmao.
canuhunter ago
Of course you can categorize people on the posts they've made, but when you choose to address them I'm saying it should be on a case by case basis.
Why would I link content from my old account if the goal was to start fresh?
Yeah, but that's life - I don't know why you're spelling this out for me like I don't understand the rules.
Also lol - reddit minority. God forbid anyone still here uses that shit asscan of a website.
And you don't piss in my "opsec", I understand how operating systems, hardware, and the infrastructure of the internet work. :^)
The entirety of the post was made to address an issue that I saw which started before the MDE migration, but that I never had to deal with - I wanted to highlight the elitist attitude that people have when they can't address someone on the words they've written in their comment. It's not healthy for a place that thrives on free speech to have people acting in this way
I think I misread the tone of your original message in this instance
CobraStallone ago
Well, "an age account doesn't make what they are saying false" is something I agree with; in fact I said this:
not a day ago, had you checked out my history maybe you would have seen it, wink, wink. Glad we did find common ground though, have a good one, and good luck with the opsce, but I was also being serious I think there's zero real opsec unless maybe you build your own hardware so it can give people a sense of false security, and people should have that in mind regarding what they post; I don't live anywhere Holocaust denial is illegal, for example. Cheers.
canuhunter ago
Yes I agree there is no real opsec unless you're running your own hardware from desktop to networking. It's unfortunate. Not a few months ago super micro was shown to have chinese backdoors installed.
I meant human opsec if that makes sense. I don't always use voat while sober - call it coping if you want - but the mood it puts me in isn't healthy. I don't keep track of 100% of what I say, so sometimes I'll have a look back and if I notice that I let a detail slip then I'll wipe the account.
I'm a bit testy today I guess - my fault for misunderstanding your initial comment
CobraStallone ago
I guess I also misunderstood your position on opsec. I'm "lucky" in that I live in the third world, so if you say "women are not men" or even "blacks are bit subhuman, innit?" people don't dox and harass you out of your livelihood, people actually agree with those statements in public outside some college classrooms and hipster neighborhoods.
canuhunter ago
yeah its fun living in thought crime city
Hand_of_Node ago
Your account is about 21 days older than my first account. And your take on account age and characteristics is pretty accurate. By the way, do you know of a way to see your own statistics that you see in the mousehover popup for others? I could probably use my first account to do that, but I'm not wanting to use it again on the main site.
CobraStallone ago
I get it if I hover over my own username in any thread, or on my submission history page; it just doesn't show in my comment history page.
Hand_of_Node ago
Wow, that works! Last time I checked I got nothing from my own username.
CobraStallone ago
Maybe they rolled that feature out recently, glad to help.
Epictetus_Hierapolis ago
This is my alt. I deleted my old account.
FecalDemiurge6000 ago
Hi fellow fag goat. This is your other other account checking in to say hi.
Neskuaxa ago
Hi Tim!
Chiefpacman ago
Reminds me of playing runescape and everyone saying "you should see my main account"
C_Corax ago
I used to be massively into text based MMO's. A simplified version of describing them would be something like Voat with an emphasis on the downvoat button. Long story short everyone cheated the fuck out of that system. I personally had around 400 alts running all automatically off of scripts with a couple of party tricks to avoid admin wrath. And I by far wasn't even the worst one.
What we're seeing here on Voat is nothing!
thantik ago
Voat should have far more emphasis on the downvote button. I've seen people directly calling out posts in the comments as being fake as fuck, but with 50 upvotes and 1 downvote because it fit some narrative.
I've even seen 5-10 people calling things out as fake in the comments, but nobody having downvoated at all 2-3 days later.
C_Corax ago
On the other side of that coin I do see the downvoates being employed to enforce said narrative every now and then. Attempted to do so discretely by keeping a post at say (+3/-1) and thus bury it even though it's obvious what it says is spot on.
I had such a post the other day. Until it turned out I was right about the Russians and selfishly brought attention back to it because I'm an attention whore. It was in fact a (+3/-1) post because I didn't want to bash MSN over not reporting on something they actually did.
I'd advice you just to roll with it and take it as a chance to study humans in a closed environment. Anything else will just leave you frustrated.
Chiefpacman ago
Personally see downvotes as censorship. Sometimes
ThoseFeels ago
Tim is a lying prick.
GhostSkin ago
They are my new recruits. JDIF FOR LIFE.
Pattern_Blind ago
Are they the same ones reposting 3-4 year old reddit shit tier memes daily for points?
Race War Now, Gas the Kikes!
CowWithBeef ago
This seems like a great way to spot them. Low effort karma hoarding posts to build credibility.
Humansized ago
Thats the easier way to spot. Nobody else gives a shit about points. Except those couple individuals who try to have the lowest points.
VoatBug ago
@edgelord666
totes_magotes ago
Because they know if they sully their older accounts that they aged and bought that they'll have nothing to fall back on when the new waves of accounts are outed.
Is there a particular reason we can't just go after these fucks and make it impossible for them to type anything?
throwaway52 ago
And some of us decided to go with new accounts because a paradigm shift is occurring. You can't deny that. My old account wasn't necessarily dox-level incriminating, but anyone with enough patience could have put a couple of things together and figured it out eventually. Apparently (again, my reason behind a new account) this is becoming the norm.
obvious-throwaway- ago
Preaching to the choir my nigger.
Triple_Agent ago
Oh, like @throwaway51 was so hard to find.
totes_magotes ago
No pity from me. That's what happens when you post info about yourself. You know what the solution to that is, right? Fucking don't. I know, shocking right?
1moar ago
But what if they find out who he is? /
totes_magotes ago
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
LoveTheFloor ago
Happy Hanukkah fellow goats
Gorillion ago
14 Happy Hanukahs to you, friend!
IsaacGoldstein ago
Yes! Happy Hunukkah!
smellmaster ago
Happy to see the echo chamber opinions here being challenged though. More room for debate and information, where some ideas may not hold their weight in water
obvious-throwaway- ago
When 5 different accounts all created yesterday argue nonsense with every single post you made, it doesn't take an inbred Jew to figure out it's Jewry.
SubhumanTorch ago
If you share the common opinion of users on this platform your beliefs have probably already gone through purgatory a couple of times. Shills and arrogant reddit-brains aren't providing a challenge, they are noise. No one is going to be challenged by hearing another rendition of basic propaganda like "everyone is equal and equally deserving". Their marketplace of ideas just isn't updated because they have lived in censorship and shills physically can't say gas the kikes race war now.
AmaleksHairyAss ago
Racism is intellectual garbage.
SubhumanTorch ago
The academic definition of racism is intellectual garbage*
Big_Willy_Wallace ago
Member for 3 months
bitcoin99 ago
JUDAISM IS ABOUT LOVE! STUPID GOYIM!! http://www.whale.to/b/judaism_h.html
squidicuz ago
Hillary did nothing wrong
face whore cow
Sappy Harmonica!
Gorillion ago
Not kidding. I'm really liking the use of rhyming slang on these slogans.
fuckinghell ago
LOL
ironnickel ago
Whoa there big guy not everyone is a JIDF shill.
sent from my iPhone from Tel Aviv
BlackManOnVoat ago
Whoa there big
guygoy.ironnickel ago
You're a big goy.
BlackManOnVoat ago
That's what she said. ;)
MrDarkWater ago
Some are JDL
mememeyou ago
The rest are sayanim
anamazonslittle ago
Jewish Defamation League?
I think I'm a member of that.
Amphiprion ago
Jizzraeli Drinking League
thelma ago
A member and a client ? Interesting.
Hand_of_Node ago
If it doesn't fully take, membership comes with a funny little hat to cover the remaining bald spot.
anamazonslittle ago
They don't usually give those out to people who defame Judaism.
CowWithBeef ago
People's front of Judea? No the Judean people's front!
Nefarious-Nephilim ago
Lets stone em both to be sure. Im sure i've heard them say Jehova. Oh shit......
Russianbots ago
Splitter
Gorillion ago
That scene has been insanely relevant to current year shenanigans.
lets_get_hyyerr ago
Fucking LOVE that movie. Just watched that the other day with my girl
tokui ago
We're allowed more than 1 account...
JopharVorin ago
Oh yes I have encountered many rat creatures prowling around here. I've never seen it this bad! There's a lot of them within the Q movement.
truthwoke33 ago
^ 3 month old sock account. Fuck off nigger. ^
JopharVorin ago
Herp derp, jew boy.
King_Leopold_II ago
I know how this looks with my acct being only a week old but take a look at this.
https://archive.fo/zxtPh
https://archive.fo/vN2Eu
https://archive.fo/ktfku
https://archive.fo/O9DwA
Pilpul engage. There is quite a bit of it on his part but this is one continuous back and forth between he and I. I would recommend not trusting this kike, obviously.
JopharVorin ago
Oh looky, a kike!! YOU'RE MAD!
truthwoke33 ago
You don't need to tell me. Thanks though.
Pro Tip: Treat SBBH like a Jew Star patch from Nazi German. And just like Jews don't let them gaslight you, it's literally their only tactic because sadly, its highly effective.
Epictetus_Hierapolis ago
check my account age. I'm legit!
speedisavirus ago
Everyone in the Q bowel movement is a rat.
JopharVorin ago
I think QRV is way better than the great awakening. Both are retarded, though.
Eurocuckistan ago
Hitler did nothing wrong
race war now
RuthlessVett ago
Sometimes I see some pretty hilarious anti-trump posts that just spew out MSM propaganda like they got it right from CNN. It's unlikely that these ones are JIDF and more likely they are just young(mentally) liberals who think they can come here and change a few minds with their "facts". I've tried conversing with a few but they are all so brain dead I quickly realize they are too dumb to even troll properly. The only funny part is how their such angry, resentful and emotional NPC faggots who can't actually argue, only repeat MSM "facts".
keksupreme ago
if they're here they are clearly jidf, nice try though kike
RuthlessVett ago
You are an idiot. How old are you, 16 going on 12?
keksupreme ago
you are clearly 100% kike, nice try
RuthlessVett ago
Username is keksupreme and thinks everyone is a jew. You're either mentally retarded or only 9 years old. Get fucked dweeb.
keksupreme ago
typical jew with the mindless personal attacks and nonsensical shilling.
keeping jewing it up shill