Root of Corruption - Part 13: "Eh... what's up, Doc?" | Origin of the enemy. (pizzagatewhatever)

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I'm going to try to avoid shortening things here, continued in 8 comments, sort oldest first.

Preface

Alright folks, this is it... the one you've been waiting for, yada yada.

What I'm going to do, is lay it all out for you on the topic of why Satanism was never to blame, it's all what you do with it, plenty of you will disagree like crazy already, but, if you're willing to read, maybe it won't seem so bat-shit...

Bonus: Yes, this is also the crypto-jew thread.

Bonus 2: O9A, MS-13, ISIS/IS/ISIL et al(Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Boko Haram, etc)

All of that said, I was going to put together a "Map of Fuckery" for this post, a nice lovely visual aid... funnily enough, someone beat me to it with just about everything I had in mind on it & then some. Unfortunately, as expected, a few inaccuracies are present & some details are missing. I'll share it here anyway for your viewing pleasure and so that, if you have questions about anything on it, you can ask them(after you read the entirety of this thread) and I can attempt to share what I know, if anything, about a particular node. I will say though, ask a stupid question, expect a stupid answer...

Disclaimer: There are many things on the following image, which I don't necessarily agree with in terms of wording/implications, but, everything is pretty much right where it needs to be.

"Map 1" (herein referred to as "m1")

There's some things on there that I know nothing about, I will freely admit that right now - my focus is at the top sections primarily; I'll start things off by addressing a couple of the inaccuracies which have been covered(sometimes ad nauseam) in previous Root of Corruption entries.

We'll get the easy stuff out of the way first...

Vlad II Dracul and Vlad III Dracula were not the enemy; Dragon worship is not a product of BANK OF ENGLAND(ca. 1694)/CITY OF LONDON; The Vlads, being members of The Order of the Dragon, fought against the enemy for much of their lives, unfortunately failing and instead having to surrender many a time and resort to peace bargaining:

Yes, that's the easy stuff because I already covered it... if that much reading is too hard, you're in big, big trouble ahead...

So, before I get into the nasty stuff where I explain who the real enemy is and why, we need to address a vital, but, missing detail from m1:

"Shamanism"

Shamanism is about as old as religious/spiritual practice gets, indeed, it is almost certainly older than everything in the green "ET" section of m1 and possibly even older than the implied roots of said section(top-left-most corner).

The wikipedia entry for Shamanism is extensive, I will pull up the relevant pieces here - do not try to have a whinge at me about ritual sacrifice, it's a primitive and outdated practice; any rational person will agree that it is absolutely not necessary in this day and age - whether human or otherwise. Over time, rationally minded persons and civilizations, as they grow, evolve beyond the need for such acts - moreover, when it comes to animal sacrifice, Shamanism displays utmost reverence for the animal and nothing is wasted - nature does the work with the remains.

Can you really say that the tempered and comparatively rare animal sacrifices made by primitive Shamans, are any more grotesque than the amount of slain animals that nobody eats and are otherwise discarded in today's world? Interesting part though, most countries that 'process meat' for mass consumption, do indeed find as many viable uses as possible, for all parts of the animal... they even go to efforts to reduce the animals' suffering, just like the Shamans...

But wait, who is it that won't allow the stunning of say, cattle, before they're to be slain? I thought so...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shamanism

Shamanism is a practice that involves a practitioner reaching altered states of consciousness in order to perceive and interact with a spirit world and channel these transcendental energies into this world.[1]

A shaman (/ˈʃɑːmən/ SHAH-men or /ˈʃeɪmən/ SHAY-mən) is someone who is regarded as having access to, and influence in, the world of benevolent and malevolent spirits, who typically enters into a trance state during a ritual, and practices divination and healing.[2] The word "shaman" probably originates from the Tungusic Evenki language of North Asia. According to ethnolinguist Juha Janhunen, "the word is attested in all of the Tungusic idioms" such as Negidal, Lamut, Udehe/Orochi, Nanai, Ilcha, Orok, Manchu and Ulcha, and "nothing seems to contradict the assumption that the meaning 'shaman' also derives from Proto-Tungusic" and may have roots that extend back in time at least two millennia.[3] The term was introduced to the west after Russian forces conquered the shamanistic Khanate of Kazan in 1552.

The term "shamanism" was first applied by Western anthropologists as outside observers of the ancient religion of the Turks and Mongols, as well as those of the neighbouring Tungusic and Samoyedic-speaking peoples. Upon observing more religious traditions across the world, some Western anthropologists began to also use the term in a very broad sense. The term was used to describe unrelated magico-religious practices found within the ethnic religions of other parts of Asia, Africa, Australasia and even completely unrelated parts of the Americas, as they believed these practices to be similar to one another.[4]

Mircea Eliade writes, "A first definition of this complex phenomenon, and perhaps the least hazardous, will be: shamanism = 'technique of religious ecstasy'."[5] Shamanism encompasses the premise that shamans are intermediaries or messengers between the human world and the spirit worlds. Shamans are said to treat ailments/illness by mending the soul. Alleviating traumas affecting the soul/spirit restores the physical body of the individual to balance and wholeness. The shaman also enters supernatural realms or dimensions to obtain solutions to problems afflicting the community. Shamans may visit other worlds/dimensions to bring guidance to misguided souls and to ameliorate illnesses of the human soul caused by foreign elements. The shaman operates primarily within the spiritual world, which in turn affects the human world. The restoration of balance results in the elimination of the ailment.[5]

Beliefs and practices that have been categorised this way as "shamanic" have attracted the interest of scholars from a wide variety of disciplines, including anthropologists, archaeologists, historians, religious studies scholars, philosophers and psychologists. Hundreds of books and academic papers on the subject have been produced, with a peer-reviewed academic journal being devoted to the study of shamanism. In the 20th century, many Westerners involved in the counter-cultural movement have created modern magico-religious practices influenced by their ideas of indigenous religions from across the world, creating what has been termed neoshamanism or the neoshamanic movement.[6] It has affected the development of many neopagan practices, as well as faced a backlash and accusations of cultural appropriation,[7] exploitation and misrepresentation when outside observers have tried to represent cultures they do not belong to.[8][9]

Terminology

Etymology

The earliest known depiction of a Siberian shaman, drawn by the Dutch explorer Nicolaes Witsen, who wrote an account of his travels among Samoyedic- and Tungusic-speaking peoples in 1692. Witsen labelled the illustration as a "Priest of the Devil," giving this figure clawed feet to express what he thought were demonic qualities.[10]

Pause for a moment.

Nicolaes Witsen

Nicolaes Witsen (8 May 1641 – 10 August 1717; modern Dutch: Nicolaas Witsen) was a Dutch statesman who was mayor of Amsterdam thirteen times, between 1682 and 1706. In 1693 he became administrator of the VOC. In 1689 he was extraordinary-ambassador to the English court, and became Fellow of the Royal Society. In his free time he was cartographer, maritime writer, and an authority on shipbuilding. His books on the subject are important sources on Dutch shipbuilding in the 17th century. Furthermore, he was an expert on Russian affairs. He was the first to describe Siberia, the Far East and Central Asia in his study Noord en Oost Tartarye [North and East Tartary].[1]

Nicolaes is worth looking into, but, let's continue for now.

Shamanism: Terminology cont:

The word "shaman" probably originates from the Evenki word "šamán," most likely from the southwestern dialect spoken by the Sym Evenki peoples.[11] The Tungusic term was subsequently adopted by Russians interacting with the indigenous peoples in Siberia. It is found in the memoirs of the exiled Russian churchman Avvakum.[12]

The word was brought to Western Europe in the late 17th century by the Dutch traveler Nicolaes Witsen, who reported his stay and journeys among the Tungusic and Samoyedic-speaking indigenous peoples of Siberia in his book Noord en Oost Tataryen (1692).[13]

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Order of Nine Angles (cont)

History

Origins

The ONA's first cell, "Nexion Zero", was established in the county of Shropshire (pictured).[2]

Academics have found it difficult to ascertain "exact and verifiable information" about the ONA's origins given the secrecy with which the group shields itself.[3] As with many other occult organisations, the Order shrouds its history in "mystery and legend", creating a "mythical narrative" for its origins and development.[3] The ONA claims to be the descendant of pre-Christian pagan traditions which survived the Christianisation of Britain and which were passed down from the Middle Ages onward in small groups or "temples" based in the Welsh Marches – a border area between England and Wales – which were each led by a Grand Master or Grand Mistress.[4] According to the Order, in the late 1960s a Grand Mistress of one such group united three of these temples – Camlad, the Temple of the Sun, and The Noctulians – to form the ONA,[5] before welcoming outsiders into the tradition.[6]

According to the Order's account, one of those whom the Grand Mistress initiated into the group was "Anton Long", an individual who described himself as a British citizen who had spent much of his youth visiting Africa, Asia, and the Middle East.[7] Long claimed that prior to his involvement in the ONA he had been interested in occultism for several years, having contacted a coven based in Fenland in 1968, before moving to London and joining groups that practiced ceremonial magic in the style of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn and Aleister Crowley.[3] He also claimed a brief involvement in a Satanic group based in Manchester, the Orthodox Temple of the Prince run by Ray Bogart, during which time he encountered the ONA Grand Mistress.[8] According to the Order's account, Long joined the ONA in 1973 – the first to have done so in five years – and became the Grand Mistress' heir.[9] He later recalled that at that time the group held rituals at henges and stone circles around the solstices and equinoxes.[3]

Let's pause for a moment...

We have no known identity for the "Grand Mistress";

Looking at when "Anton Long" allegedly joined the order, 1973, supposing the "Grand Mistress" is real, who wants to take a guess at who she might be(consider age)?

While we're here, let's correct another inaccuracy present in m1:

Aleister Crowley's Thelema, was based on teachings from The Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn(among other influences), both being based on teachings from Hermeticism; THOGD is older than and a parent to Thelema.

I do not care what you think of Crowley/Thelema, be it positive, negative or otherwise - if you have evidence of him or others using it to cause harm, do as thou will...

Get it yet? No? You can choose to ignore it, choose to replicate it, choose to report it to the authorities/other, etc... there will be consequences regardless, positive and/or negative.

Reading on...

This account further states that when the Order's Grand Mistress migrated to Australia, Long took over as the group's new Grand Master.[5] The group claimed that Long "implemented the next stage of Sinister Strategy – to make the teachings known on a large scale".[10] From the late 1970s onward, Long encouraged the establishment of new ONA groups, which were known as "temples",[11] and from 1976 onward he authored an array of texts for the tradition, codifying and extending its teachings, mythos, and structure.[12] These texts are typically written in English, although they include passages of Classical Greek as well as terms from Sanskrit and Arabic,[13] reflecting Long's fluency in such languages.[7] After examining these texts, the historian Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke stated that in them, Long "evokes a world of witches, outlaw peasant sorcerers, orgies and blood sacrifices at lonely cottages in the woods and valleys of this area [Shropshire and Herefordshire] where he has lived since the early 1980s".[14]

So from about 1973-1975 onwards, "Anton Long" seems to have taken to putting out a whole bunch of texts which foster an image of engaging in primitive/barbaric and perverse cult/fantasy behavior, as being central to the O9A.

Here's where it gets interesting...

David Myatt (pictured 2007) is often cited as the central ideologue in the ONA.

The real identity of "Anton Long" remains a mystery to both members of the Order and to academics who have studied it.[15] However, in a 1998 issue of the anti-fascist magazine Searchlight, it was claimed that "Anton Long" was a pseudonym of David Myatt, a prominent figure in the British Neo-Nazi movement.[16] Born in the early 1950s, Myatt had been involved in various Neo-Nazi groups, initially serving as a bodyguard for Colin Jordan of the British Movement before joining the Combat 18 militia and becoming a founding member and leader of the National Socialist Movement.[17] His text on A Practical Guide to Aryan Revolution, in which he advocated violent militancy in aid of the Neo-Nazi cause, was cited as an influence on the nail bomber David Copeland.[18] In 1998 Myatt converted to Islam and remained a practicing Muslim for eight years, in which time he encouraged violent jihad against Zionism and Israel's Western allies.[19] In 2010, he announced that he had renounced Islam and was practicing an esoteric tradition that he termed the "Numinous Way".[20]

Goodrick-Clarke supported the idea that Myatt was Long,[21] with the religious studies scholar Jacob C. Senholt adding that "the role of David Myatt [is] paramount to the whole creation and existence of the ONA".[22] Senholt presented additional evidence that he believed confirmed Myatt's identity as Long,[23] writing that Myatt's embrace of Neo-Nazism and radical Islamism represented "insight roles" which Myatt had adopted as part of the ONA's "sinister strategy" to undermine Western society,[24] a view endorsed by scholar of Satanism Per Faxneld.[25] In 2015, an ONA member known as R. Parker argued in favour of the idea that Myatt was Long.[26] As a result of Page's publication, the sociologist of religion Massimo Introvigne stated that the ONA has "more or less acknowledged" that Myatt and Long are the same person, [20] which claim about Myatt the ONA has disputed. [27]

Myatt himself has repeatedly denied allegations that he has any involvement with the ONA,[28] and that he has used the pseudonym "Anton Long",[29] furthermore challenging the arguments used to connect him with Long by claiming that they are based on insufficient evidence.[30] Religious studies scholar George Sieg expressed concern with this association, stating that he found it to be "implausible and untenable based on the extent of variance in writing style, personality, and tone" between Myatt and Long.[31] Jeffrey Kaplan, an academic specialist in the far right, has also suggested that Myatt and Long are separate people,[32] while the religious studies scholar Connell R. Monette posited the possibility that "Anton Long" was not a singular individual but rather a pseudonym used by several different people.[33]

You can read the entirety of the wiki entry yourself if you like, but, to summarize my position:

I still think of these people as a joke, because they went and fucked themselves good and proper. They fell for a trap set for them long ago by the likes of Crowley and others. What O9A/David Myatt/"Anton Long" have done is abhorrent no doubt, but, I laugh with utmost derision towards them.

I'm going to point out a couple more things in this entry, then, we're going to learn more about David Myatt. At this point, it is incredibly likely that he is or knows/knew "Anton Long", even if he isn't, he has contributed(possibly still does) to the same corruption.

Beliefs and structure

Initiation and the Seven Fold Way

~~Within the initiatory system of the ONA, there is an emphasis on practitioners adopting "insight roles" in which they work undercover among a politically extreme group for a period of six to eighteen months, thus gaining experience in something different from their normal life.[100] Among the ideological trends that the ONA suggests its members adopt "insight roles" within are anarchism, Neo-Nazism, and Islamism, stating that aside from the personal benefits of such an involvement, membership of these groups has the benefit of undermining the Magian-Nazarene socio-political system of the West and thus helping to bring about the instability from which a new order, the Imperium, can emerge.[101]~~

The ONA encourages its members to adopt "insight roles" in anarchist, Neo-Nazi, and Islamist groups in order to disrupt modern Western society.

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Human sacrifice

The ONA's writings condone and encourage human sacrifice,[121] referring to their victims as opfers.[66]

This is not Satanism... this is just plain disgusting. It is a corruption/misappropriation for the purpose of perpetuating unending conflict and manipulation.

So bringing back the pinned topic of Nazism, couple it with Islamic extremism and this morbid excuse for a rewrite of "Satanism", do you see it yet?

Those of you who constantly blame "Jews" as a general rule, for all the world's woes, are doing the work of Islamic extremists; the common thread is true Facism.

Amalekites bridge the gap; the original corruptors, rapists, thieves, mutilators, etc...

OH! Don't forget the Phillistines(today Palestine), either...

Finally, keep in mind while reading the O9A entry, that they are mixing fact with fiction.